As a person interested in both MTB and Motorbikes I stumbled across your videos and left astounded. You're a true legend and I'm questioning if my engineering degree is valid after seeing this. Truly humbled by your skills.

Calling You a genius would be an understatement.

@michaeltaylor8835

3 жыл бұрын

Leonardo jr

@nunnukanai7602

3 жыл бұрын

Calling him god is more like it

@dilwyn1

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunnukanai7602 LOL!! that is a fair comparison ... God made the earth in 7 days, and Allen made a bike in 12 mins !!!

@Sheddymiata

3 жыл бұрын

Now thats a dream bike if I ever saw one its beautiful in both how it looks and in engineering terms

@samhoff2545

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

You made my brother a mech hanger out of a frying pan for his broken orange patriot at a BDS race in like 2008. Thats when i first learned what engineers are supposed to be.

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

I was always helping out with repairs at the races 🙈

@josteincarlsen2905

2 жыл бұрын

@@AllenMillyard so you my man are a tru legend ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻

you've done more for bike's in your shed than all bike manufacturers have done in the last 100 yrs , amazing stuff

This guy is one of the most under appreciated engineers I've ever encountered. I understand that it must've been hideously expensive to produce but why hasn't it been funded to be available to more people? Pure genius.

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

It would wipe out the multi £million after sales market of spare parts 🙈

@jayr6666

3 жыл бұрын

@@AllenMillyard Surely to discerning customers that wouldn't matter?

@alexmorgan3435

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayr6666 But it would to the likes of Shimano as they make a packet from selling replacement new parts for ones that have failed as Allen wrote above.

@jayr6666

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexmorgan3435 Yup, agree. But patenting the parts and engineering thereof would obviously negate that.

@dennisfroud5763

3 жыл бұрын

You have obviously heard about the struggle Mr Dyson had with trying to get his cyclone vacuum cleaner to market... but look at him now! 🤔

who else smiles when the phone scenes come on? Allen you are a true genius!!

@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah how could you not

@nicksmith7552

3 жыл бұрын

I have a bit newer version.....it’s mustard colour.....styling !

@davehoward22

3 жыл бұрын

There not cheap them phones anymore..bizarrely ,everybody had them years ago

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

It’s fun shooting the phone sequences 🎥

@milesdufourny4813

3 жыл бұрын

I smiled because the first thing that came to mind was; a Millennial would have trouble operating this thing.

Fascinating stuff. Seems well ahead of it's time even now. I love the thought of a near zero maintenance drivetrain with derailleur to smash off. You sir are a genius 🙌

Astounding! Your intelligence and skill is only surpassed by your humility and kindness in sharing this video. Heart felt thanks and massive respect. A legend in your own time , history will feature you very highly and frequently. I'm in awe. Thank you Regards Gareth Wiltshire. Gratitude. Quality. Respect.

@KokoSupreme

3 жыл бұрын

Lowkey kinda cute

All mountain bikes should be made like this.

@Metal-Possum

3 жыл бұрын

I'm poor enough already thanks...

@notplaying2379

3 жыл бұрын

@@Metal-Possum PMSL.

@mixalis6168

3 жыл бұрын

Should, but the price would increase immensely, and they are already expensive !!

@orppranator5230

3 жыл бұрын

Meh. Not a fan of the unbalanced weight due to the rear, and a simple one dimensional triangle like on most bikes seems like it would be just as strong and lighter than the crane-arm-like frame. I’m not a bike builder but just my two cents.

@suchasreallife

3 жыл бұрын

Mass production makes things cheaper.. well it should

Where's the "add to cart" button, Allen?

@nobrakes7247

3 жыл бұрын

Go find him if U got the coin pay him a hourly rate and 15 % on materials and consumables. I don't think you have much change left out of 30,000 But you will have one of the best MTB ever

@nathanvilleneuve6911

3 жыл бұрын

ya, where is it

@martinlaing7920

3 жыл бұрын

No Brakes honestly the next best thing would be to get build plans from Allen. I’ve been think about pitching it to him. the hardest thing to me is putting a price on even a proper diagram of his artistry to study and attempt building.

@tonyduncan9852

3 жыл бұрын

LOL. I thought you wrote: "Alien". It still works. . .

@lgr1966

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be nice to add to cart! Some company should produce these!! I know most everyone would want and get one, if it was available and affordable to the masses! This bike was and is so far ahead of it's time, but I think its time to offer to the public!? I only wish maybe someday? Looks like he could add a battery to it make it battery powered as well?! I just need one of these bad real bad!!

I am still amazed Allen that you haven't been listed under "the official secrets act". It's people like you that change the way we all live and drag the rest of us behind you. For your next project can you sort out this Covid 19.........we could all be "well pleased" with that!

I was always blown away by your motorcycle builds. I cannot believe I have only just discovered this downhill bike build. Mate, you are an utter genius. As a mountain biker, this engineering masterpiece would give me so much joy. Love your no-nonsense and informative videos.

So why has the international bike industry still not caught up with Allen and his shed ? This just makes all that external chain and derailleur stuff look daft.

@alexmorgan3435

3 жыл бұрын

Huge after sales market of spares perhaps for crappy derailleurs, chain rings and sprockets?

@ollianddelphine

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe true about the parts and after market profits. It seems like if one company actually cracked a lightweight internal gearbox with a shaft drive or cased chain for a good enough price then it would take off and everyone would make them. It is similar to the issues Mike Burrows ( of lotus bike fame) had, he kept innovating and the UCI banned all his ideas.

@maxdefranker

3 жыл бұрын

I think GT made a DH bike with a gearbox, it2 it was called if I remember correctly, one benefit with a centered gearbox is weight distribution, but maybe on a downhill bike the forks are heavy enough to counterbalance the derraileur and gear hub.

@TwoDogsFighting

3 жыл бұрын

Bit hard to sell yearly upgrades then.

@josiahalcantara5693

3 жыл бұрын

Look up zerode bikes

I hope your son realises he has one of the best dads on the planet....

@dietznutz1

2 жыл бұрын

"the best" along with Colin furze

Many are asking for MTB gearboxes to catch on, but the MTB racing economy dictates the consumer production line. You are a true pioneer! Saving up for a future Gearbox in my price range possibly still only an idea for a future engineer.

He is not just a genius but an all round automotive sage, and all round nice guy. This bike needs to be studied by many so called manufacturers. The gearbox alone is an engineering work of art. Beautiful!!

@timnaylor4597

3 жыл бұрын

I agree about the genius. Allan is a great, thoughtful and innovative engineer. What makes his work special is his creativity and thinking outside of the box as to what could be done. I wonder if he has any failures projects that just didn't work out as envisaged? PS the bikes space frame reminds me of a Moulton.

@markburrows4158

Жыл бұрын

the core of the gearbox is actually a Shimano Alfine Hub Gear (sg-s700 if you look at the video at 8:30 ) - the magic comes from how Allen modified it to be used as a mid-bike gearbox system.

Allen, I can remember when my boy Jack got into Down Hill Mountainbiking, and I was totally unaware as to how much they cost. It was a steep learning curve, and I saw them as being very poor value for money. It is amazing that you just made one.

@partickstar1135

3 жыл бұрын

all bikes are poor value for money the industry has snowballed out of control on prices but hey everyone will pay it because it's the norm

@jonathangofast559

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly why I decided to build my own, value for application that didn't need massive amounts of money to be competitive

@dietznutz1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathangofast559 if you can built your own you are extremely skilled

@solo4158

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I build a handmade DH MTB , on my Chanel if you interest

This needs to be featured on the gmbn tech show because it is awesome. I'm sending Doddy a link to this video.

@truantray

3 жыл бұрын

I did as well.

@infadel66

3 жыл бұрын

Please don't. There not worthy. They like to play with shop bikes. And talk to much. This man is way above that.. way way above that. . Allen. You should put a "made in Taiwan" sticker on it just for a laugh. .

@badlarry172

3 жыл бұрын

@@infadel66 i rekon he would get a lot of praise and recognition from gmbn tech, i know they are a bit corporate but you gotta be to make a living nowadays haven't you? i agree tho the guys a fekkin genius

@jacobpoucher

3 жыл бұрын

doddy sucks. allen is a legend. gmbn tech sucks also.

@SKBKER

3 жыл бұрын

Don't ever get GMBN involved . Full of spoiled brats and editors who only care about big name brands that make average s tuff

Do they ever come up for sale? Truly beautiful pieces of engineering 👌🏼😊

This bike is gorgeous and it’s an engineering work of art. You are such a skilled talent!

I love how the English say “I was well pleased with that” 🙂

A few days ago I fitted a new derailleur hanger and jockey wheels to my road bike and they fitted perfect. Then, on a short test ride, I noticed that the shifting was a bit off, so I adjusted the cable and it shifted perfect. Then, I put the kettle on, and gave myself the day off.

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant 😎

@benjaminrogers9848

3 жыл бұрын

So you mean you didn't throw the bike out and design a new one from scratch? what a rookie

@martinjefferies666

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminrogers9848 Gotta be honest, by the time I'd done all that AND put the kettle on, I didn't even manage to finish making the tea. I noticed that the cup was round but the teabag was square, so I put it in the lathe and then, well I just gave up really.

@martinjefferies666

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbutler2601 I remembered that I'd left the round teabags at the shop, so I called my friend at the grocers who had them delivered to my door 30 seconds later. In this comment, I'll show you how I used four of the round teabags to create infinitely variable transfer port timing in my kawasaki 500-4. I'll be making tea in another video.

@Critical_Stinking

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinjefferies666 😂😂😂

My jaw is gonna be on the floor all day! Love the old KLG plug at 4:17. These days it seems kids are not shown the joy of working with their hands and making STUFF.

You are incredible Allen. Your engineering and fabrication skills never fail to amaze me.

WoW that is one hell of a bike. I can't believe it's so old it looks very modern.

Your son must of been so proud telling people his dad had made his bike from scratch, i hardly seen my old man he was always in the pub.... what a great person & a great dad you are Phil

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil

Great work Alan, it’s fantastic to see the use of straight forward engineering, like using a simple keyway for the rear hub to make bikes far ahead of the big companies that still work great all these years later. 👍

It’s so rare that I come across a functional work of art that performs. This is one of them. Beautiful work in every regard!

I am a young engineer and you are a big inspiration with what you do, thanks for the videos🙏🏻

I have to say Allen. Please don’t stop making these videos. You are very inspirational to us younger guys. I love to see someone go about what they want to do and make it happen not just sit and wonder if it will work.

So inspiring. You are a legend in moto, Allen. I loved reading about your projects in the magazines. Thank you so much for sharing your projects with us.

Allen never ceases to amaze. Just brilliant engineering. Everything fits just perfect. The gearbox alone is years ahead of its time.

Hi Allen, fantastic range of bikes you have made, you refered to the gearbox 's ability to change in virtually any direction, if possible.. (and understand if you don't want to) would you make a video on the gearbox unit, as I'm sure many would have a real interest in how it works. Enjoyed this video mate, as usual thank you for sharing with us. Cheers, Alex.

@Surestick88

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like he's using a modified Shimano Alfine hub on the bikes (Alfine 8 originally and 11 on the update). You should be able to figure out how this is done with a bit of googling. There was at least one bike produced with a similar system. The tricky part is getting the drive off the hub. Usually you secure the axle and the hub shell would be your drive but I don't see why you couldn't secure the hub shell and use the axle to drive a sprocket though rotation would be reversed I think.

@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs

3 жыл бұрын

@@Surestick88 No need for overcomplicating stuff. On one side you are normaly conected to crank thru chain. On other side you mounting second sprocket instead of disc.

@insanebmxthomas

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, he took a internal gear hub. If you put one of those hubs in a vice and spin the hubshell, the output on the sprocket will be more than that. So whatever he did with the hub, it works perfect as internal gearing without it being 'a hub' anymore. I'm just not completely sold on the shifting under power argument. I've definitely seen ig hubs have a hard time when you do that. But you can definitely mod the internals for it to 'act' more competitive. I wish i had any metals fabrication experience. This seems like it's done in such a simplistic manner yet the results are craaazy!

@BrentKirwan

3 жыл бұрын

@@Surestick88 Yup! I just saw your post now! That is my guess also!

@michaelbrett3749

3 жыл бұрын

Ciniese want to see it too there running out of things to copy.

Your work is and will be inspirational for generations and then some!

So, the most innovative mountain bike design I've seen since late 90s Cannondale came out of one man's shed. Amazing work!

I stumbled upon your videos by mistake. You are a wizard. I hope that you get the recognition that you so obviously deserve. The design is so radical (for me) that I struggle to think how you came up with it, let alone manufacture it. This is legend material. It reminds me of John Britten.

Absolutely blown away by this. Amazing work.

This is perfection! Like everyone's saying, this system would be amazing on all bikes. Changing gear under load, the way that suspension sticks too the floor. A job very well done

This is how all mountain bikes should be made. Simply beautiful. I would love see more mountain biking content, Allen. Absolute Legend.

A man with his hands ,tools and knowledge... PURE GENIUS!!! Awesome, Thanks for sharing your knowledge

Fabulous bicycle way ahead of its time still ahead of its time my God I want one... Mr. Milliard how wonderful of an engineer are you amazing. Hammerhead...

Proper genius engineering 👏

I regularly come back to both videos. I remember reading about it in dirt magazine in 2007 and it has never left my mind ever since. This, to this day, is still the epitome of engineering as far as i am concerned (in the MTB industry, of course) Most people remember Honda's attempt and were swayed by the shiny toy from a reputable motorcycle company, however, the ML bikes are, to this day, the measuring stick against which all so called revolutionnary MTB should be measured. Thank you for those 2 videos, they are truly important.

I’m blown away by design engineers and inventors like this guy, just incredible!

This bike makes the rest simply obsolete!! Congrats again Allen!

Very quiet in the drivetrain dept. and looks totally at home on the lines that it was ridden over. Very impressive

My father made me a motorbike out of a lawnmower when i was 7, still my hero but this is next level. Thanks for this video, truly amazing ingenuity and your son is a proper DH rider!

Every time a watch a video from Allen or about Allen, I can't take my eyes and ears away from the video. The stuff that this guy makes and creates is amazing! He's see a problem or needs a bit to stand back and figure things out and wham next thing you lnow he's out there making the correct pieces! Incredible!

It was only the other week I commented on your other video requesting this one! Sir you are a complete genius! I would absolutely love to see what goes off inside your head!

crazy how quiet that bike is, would love to see the internals of that drive system.

@dibqip

3 жыл бұрын

Viktor Sligo it’s a modified Shimano Alfine 11 - not to take anything away from Allen I think we all know he could make one from scratch if he needed to

@fat.chance

3 жыл бұрын

yep alfine 11 hub, GT IT1 had an alfine hub mid mounted back in the day as well, ive still got one in the shed

@williamarmstrong7199

3 жыл бұрын

Who got there 1st Shimano or Allan? I know who my money is on!

@devlinsgd1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamarmstrong7199 Shimano make the hub. Other fabricators use it to different effect. The was a bike, Lehir, in the late 90's that used the Rohloff mid mounted. It's not new but the internal chain line is a different way of doing it and that's what is cool about these bikes.

@truantray

3 жыл бұрын

@@devlinsgd1971 yes, it's the real innovative aspect. Would be cool to see this bike optimized for weight (it looks heavy) and a Cannondale lefty fork

Well done Allen, always fantastic to see someone doing their own thing with what they've got, and doing it well. Some great ingenuity in there. Keep it up!

Mr. Milliyard, your fabrication, machining skills never cease to amaze me.

One of the best looking bikes I've ever seen. Such an amazing story. I've seen your stuff multiple times on pinkbike but didn't know you had a youtube channel.

Allen, overall brilliant design, the upgraded gearbox and fixed HD keyway axle is a winner, perfect bike :)

What comes out that shed and garage is simply amazing!

What an excellent design - thoroughly well thought-out and carefully implemented. The rear end design with the gearbox, chain and arm as an integral piece - ohhh, wow. A lovely bit of stuff and clearly a confidence booster for the rider. Great video!

the mr002 to bicycles is what the sr71 is to aviation. absolute masterpiece.

@RageForSeven

11 ай бұрын

love the analogy, so true

I was up late last night watching a British salvage hunter show - and there you were buying a trials bike!

Your work is a profound piece of history... Recently graduated from University (BSME) and your proficiency DRIVES ME. Prototype DH rigs for riders as skilled and practiced as your son Steven, Bernard Kerr, etc... I'm even more blown away that you will be releasing your data acquisition. Your bikes aren't given NEARLY the attention they've rightfully earned. For any of us that have aggressively pushed sprockets and groupsets, the zero slip and backlash of your geartrain is pure dreams! Obviously, you have worked very hard to make your prototypes not only incredibly competitive and reliable-but also serviceable. I'm utterly stunned.

Dad is a genius. And his son has talent aswell. Kudos!

Thanks for this Allen, I just love it. (You just made a 54 year old mountain bikers day 😁)

You’re a fabricating genius, I wish I could buy one of those.

this single swing arm set up with internal gearing so revolutionary... thanks for sharing the video and making these bikes ...

I just love this bike from top to bottom... beautifully industrial absolutely the tool for the job. Hats off guys!

Allen the engineering on this DH bike is still way ahead of it's time. Mountain bikers may understand this bike by 2030...... Maybe.

The lad has caught your genius, Al, just in a slightly different direction.

No end to your talents, & your enthusiasm is blooming brilliant, top job mate

I cannot tell you how much I love this video. Bikes. Engineering. Top chaps. Subscribed.

Brilliant job on that bike Allen! I've never undetstood why bike tech development has remained so stagnant over a long period of time! Essentially my current mountain bike uses virtually the same tech and design as my Raleigh racing bike from way back in the late 1970s! Same rubber rim brakes, same derailleur gears !!! Fully enclosed gearing system should be the norm now!! 😎👍

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

It’s all down to after market sales of parts that break rather than making a bike that’s maintance free 🙈

@RealMTBAddict

Жыл бұрын

Well because most people don't want a gearbox that weighs 10lbs. Most people don't care about shifting while not moving and I'm one of them.

Awesome! Been waiting for this one for WAYY too long now! ✅💯👌🏼

One can only imagine how alive this bike would feel with Etype technology added to the amazing millyard geometry Tyvm for sharing.

Your work ethic and skill set are an inspiration to me Allen. Thanks!

The enclosed drive train and quick release rear wheel is amazing and I love the way the gears change so precisely. Why is it not in mass production? That was a fast ride around the Forest of Dean. Great video as always, Thanks.

@canobenitez

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure with some funding, patreon or cr kickstater. this bike will be a hit..

@heinzhaupthaar5590

2 жыл бұрын

@@canobenitez Two many proprietary parts. Unfortunately that's almost always a bad deal.

This is literally the answer to the question what if industry standards in MTB did not exist.

Another fabulous creation, I love the silent running without the chain and derailleur clattering, such a vulnerable part on a MTB. Also enjoying the phone scenes on these later videos :)

I own orange alpine 160 2010. Have replaced 1 set of pivot bearings and its been riden hard. Your engineering skills are something else 👍

Amazing how quiet it is without the derailleur noise.

@flippy66

2 жыл бұрын

What about that very obvious squeaking though?

I'm sure major manufacturers would put this into production Allen. Any chance of that happening? It's much better than any other design out there to get rid of the slappy chain issue. Excellent work as always Sir.

Always wanted an MTB w a sealed gearbox, makes so much sense for the type of rider I am. I absolutely love your design.

Oh....to be young & fit again! The bike still looking like it was made yesterday & performing like a champ, great stuff Allan.

INSTANT like!

These programmes are so much better than the ones Our Hero appears in on Alzheimer's TV. Why doesn't Channel X simply rebroadcast these? In days gone by AM would have been a top designer at a British motorcycle company (do you remember those days): Edward Turner, without the arrogance.

Stunning piece of engineering that! I remember the original one you built being raced, so smooth, quiet and fast.

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

the MR001 was the fastest bike tested by Dirt Magazine in 2007

I've seen your incredible motorcycles and was impressed. The bicycle gearbox with internal chain,you are the one above genius. Please don't ever think about stopping 👍👍✊

As DH and Enduro anorak guy I'm truly impressed but I can tell that the fork damping is crap on that old fox 40. Still room to improve over the newer damping designs and you are the right guy for it.

You have to ask Sam pilgrim to test it! That would be a great collaboration!

Thank you Allen lovely to see your talents lie in so many areas I can watch your vids end to end for hours

Allen is a total genius, so laid back and there’s nothing he can’t design and build. He could build a space rocket in his workshop !! Lockdown is much easier watching these great videos

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

Im glad i can help a bit

Love that trellis style frame and that gearbox is nuts. Have you considered making an e-bike version with that gearbox?

@watlina

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like it's a slightly modified Shimano Alfine. The 8-Speed was the 500 now on the newer 11-Speed 700 version. He could fit the 705 and have electronic shifting :-)

@alexhaworth

3 жыл бұрын

Internal belt drive from a pinion would get the weight lower and wouldnt need oil to lube the belt and less likely to slip underload.. ive had a bit of bother with alfines in the past (zerode owner) my g1 is now sporting a 3000w motor in place instead

@TotoGuy-Original

3 жыл бұрын

That is a fantastic idea i would love to see that!! What would also be nice is if it could be made so that when its free running like downhill it puts some charge into the batteries like an alternator on a car and also have pedals so when the battery is low you can just pedal and charge it. im not sure on the practicalities or engineering of this sort of thing though it may not be feasible

@alexhaworth

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotoGuy-Original it won't happen - regen motors are direct drive (no freewheeling) and heavy

@TotoGuy-Original

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexhaworth what about dynamos don't see those any more though

I love that phone, I've said it before and I will say it again, I bloody love that phone

Beautiful Allen, I remember them at the time. A real work of art.

I came to this channel for the 4 cylinder s1 build! Didn’t know you had created this beautiful work of art, I’ve been out of the mountain bike scene for a few years now but this bike here is a beautiful work of art! Can’t even imagine the time put into perfecting it! I’m in second year of mechanical engineering and am just understanding how perfect this design is. I’m assuming it doesn’t weigh any more than a comparable downhill as well!

My dad was born in 1931 , and was a fitter and turner , he could file anything perfectly, and sharpen drills perfectly. Your rear axle must be strong. I see a single front fork coming soon

@truantray

3 жыл бұрын

Cannondale Lefty.

Specialized need to hire this guy now

You sir are a talented man I enjoy your videos and they inspire me every time to continue on my own journey to build things no one else does

Dont care what anyone says this bike is the best out there even to this day well done Allen genius

man you gotta put a "lefty" suspension in that bike. It will by awesome.

@canobenitez

3 жыл бұрын

I know! or a "righty! cool asimmetry.

My crappy Bafang drive on my ebike keeps shredding brake pads, cassettes, and chains. (BikTrix sucks) but my Vee Tire Avalanche's are awesome in the Canadian winters!

Those bikes are absolute awesome works of art, and no chain flapping about getting tensioned and de-tension at every hump or bump.

Brilliant , top drawer brilliant ! How much does it weigh ? Has the rear shock got rebound damping or does it not need it - seemed to snap back really quick ? I'm away to google epicyclic gears . Great stuff , best channel on youtube , thanks, .

@AllenMillyard

3 жыл бұрын

There is perfect rebound damping when riders weight is on the bike, the rider is the engine, try taking the engine out of a motorcycle and compressing the suspension it would bounce up exactly the same with out the mass damping effect of the engine weight 😎

@gordonshort4264

3 жыл бұрын

@@AllenMillyard Thanks Allan , yes it makes sense . I'm fed up with all the chain clanking and worrying about what side I lay the bike down on when it goes into the car etc . The enclosed chain on an offroad bike makes so much sense . Great design mate , great .

@MrGTO-ze7vb

3 жыл бұрын

@@AllenMillyard Hey Allen, How much does your MR002 weigh? Thanks from Northern California..!