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Million Mile bus engine? Saved from the scrapper, can we get it to run?
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Man I been telling my wife for years I could solve all her problems with my tongue. Lol
16 years old sitting behind controls of a 353 DD powered Timberjack them spinnin arrows stayed with me when my brothers hollered Mack and Cummins long live the past ain't nothin wrong with silver 😁💪
I like that used an impact...a rachit...a rachit wrench....an a regular wrench....💪💪👍👍
Glad to see that you are wearing your osha compliant steel toed crocs!! Remember safety third!!!….. always! 😆
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
yessir!!!
@ChevyConQueso
6 ай бұрын
Coffee 1st, Profits 2nd, Safety 3rd
That 'Montage' jam is sick!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
🤟🤟
You might try multiple cans of John deere starting fluid while screaming obscenitys followed by a long redline? Like old peg leg zip ties n bias plies? 😂
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
That's my usual technique just didn't pay off this time
Cracking video Wayne as always, it's not a Friday night without Ol 2 Stroker, keep up the great work Brother. 🇬🇧
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
Wayne, I’m with you. I don’t see how that didn’t shred the shit out of those gears with all those bolts fallen through there.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Got lucky i guess!
@raymondbradley6788
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker sometimes we do. Love your channel Wayne.👍👍👍
Sorry Wayne good luck keep warm buddy
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks man you too
Hi Wayne at least it's not locked up. If it don't wanna start blame it on the beer ! Enjoy your weekend !
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Hadta be the beer!!
A real mechanic uses all their senses 😂
Maybe them Neutral Drop boys got a hold of it…screws in the pan! 😂
Ooh Wayne those D50 GM Delco Alternators are HEAVY for sure and changed my share working on buses
The under-truck shot in the intro made me realize just how sketchy cars are, like, we have this huge rotating metal rod underneath us that could come apart catastrophically any second and cause a fatal accident, and it's held in place basically by some thin lock rings that are allegedly made of metal, and a prayer. That's actually epic.
@Ol2Stroker
6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha I never thought of it like that.
you could build a pyramid with that 2x4 technique!!!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I know right!!
I bought a Perkins powered light plant a while back, after we had that bad winter storm in Texas. Guy looked at me funny when I opened the radiator, stuck my finger in, tasted it, and spit. Antifreeze has an unmistakable nasty sweet flavor. I didn't wanna get hosed with a cracked block, and it was hard to see color due to settling. It almost never gets that cold here, and people run light on antifreeze compared to what you yankees have to run. Even where I was at near San Antone that day, it got close to 0° at times.
@Ol2Stroker
6 ай бұрын
Smart man!
Another Great Video, Wayne. Hopefully it will self heal in the weeds and run like a top on the next appearance. At least you have a known good ECM on the Firetruck engine if needed. I guess you can’t win them all. Stay Warm.
giver the Cosby sauce
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I gave it enough to have plenty of epstein opportunities with it if i wanted. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I worked on those exact assembly's for 32 years, Alternator did suck doin in the bus, you layed on the floor and reached thru an access hole
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
no thanks!
I lose sleep over bolts falling into the geartrain. Seen water pump bolt tear up the front of an EMD and blower drive gear bolt tear up the front of an old Cleveland. Thanks for the video man, always a treat!
@ChevyConQueso
6 ай бұрын
These old girls like to shake themselves apart don't they? I passed on a 6BT Cummins recently because the dowel pin dropped and the gears caught it. Teeth missing off gears through the PS/vacuum pump hole and a hard stop when I was barring it over made me save my money. Then my dumb ass got another one full of moisture instead.😂 Anyway, thread locker works.
@FixAndForget
6 ай бұрын
@@ChevyConQueso The big EMDs and Clevelands don't shake but have valve train failure usually from improper instalation of parts. Can't speak for the Detroits though.
Thanks for sharing
Except for the accessory drive and the beat up oil pan, that motor actually looked pretty clean inside. Hopefully you can get the fuel issue worked out, and you'll have another working *8V-92. With all the gears in the back of those, I'm amazed that at least 1 of those bolts didn't knock a few teeth off somewhere.😯
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I can't believe the geartrain survived. Its an 8v92 btw 😁
@1394db
7 ай бұрын
Hey Wayne, At 14:40 and 14:44 there is some tooth damage, thanks for the vid
@wildcoyote34
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker that's a miracle ,, i'm working on a 6BT cummins a neighbor gave me ,, was a pump engine that had a mysterious failure according to the farmer ,,guy said it jumped time ???? jumped time ,,that's BAD cause that's all gears ,,,my suspicions were confirmed today when i pulled the gear cover ,,, the killer dowel pin ( KDP ) killed it ,,,needless to say this engine might run again , but it needs every gear in the train including the oil pump replaced,,, for someone unfamiliar with the killer dowel pin ,,this was a problem with the 12 valve cummins and the early 24 valves too ,, the centering dowel pin that aligns the front gear case with the engine block will work loose and fall into the timing gears,,the fix for this was a hold back clip and bolt that kept the pin in place
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@@wildcoyote34 yea im familiar with those and that failure. Oof.
@wildcoyote34
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker yea it's my first one i have encountered ,, the last cummins i worked on already had the KDP fixed ,,i just messaged a guy on marketplace that had a good core for a reasonable price ,,all i need are the timing gear set and the gear case ,,his dead engine had a hydrolock falure ,, told me it had a bad head gasket and that caused a bent conrod ,, but i think he got water in it , i have had several diesels blow a head gasket and neveer hydrolocked
Another 10 out of 10 video Wayne! I absolutely love watching you step by step try and resurrect these old engines. Keep em coming!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
Wayne, get a electric fuel pump and hook it to the fuel pump suction to prime them, works like a charm I just did it today when it was 10° out to get the air out of the fuel pump.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I know it i need to rig something up
Ya Greyhound loved those Detroits Wayne. They're all over in the Buses.
If you come across an old day cab with a running 6-71 or 8v-71 maybe you could rent it to me for a couple of months......I'm just too old to do what you do but have always loved the sound of the 71 series.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
They sound so good!!!
Close. A few weeks in the weeds might shame it into submission.
@traceystealz0318
7 ай бұрын
She just needs a winter hibernation 😂
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
Hi Wayne from Yorkshire England the studs in the sump
Cosby sauce hell yea u new you could 🎉🎉🥳
Good try mate, cant wait to here this old girl puff and chuff. Looking fwd to hearing it and finding out the cause of it Not running. Cheers.
A for effort 😊 looking forward to seeing you dig this back out of the weeds! Wild that those screws didn't cause seeable damage to those teeth 😳
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Those friggen teeth are in better shape than mine! 🤣🤣🤣
@charlesangell_bulmtl
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker 🤣🤣🤣I got 9 left...
The montage was winning Bud👌🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks man
If I didn't cry over the damper, I'm not going to cry over a double 90.
I love your channel it makes me laugh almost all of the time. You always keep projects real ! Don’t change what you makes your channel different. Always looking for the next one !
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks man I really appreciate that!
from the looks of that oil pan the bus ran down the road for a while with no wheels inside of the engine is real clean Wayne ... I love you got leaves back on your trees already LOL ... have you looked outside
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Bahahhaahhah i sure wish it was this nice out still!
@user-kg4eb7nl5b
7 ай бұрын
🤣@@Ol2Stroker
By your self a lottery ticket dude. Shit you lucked out 🍻🇺🇸
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
No kidding!!!
What a rook,,,, waiting for part two ,,,,
You got lucky no core now lolol 🤣 from Illinois
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Definitely
My $$$ is on previous ECM damage. I see this was before the concrete pad, so understandable your running out of time to F with it. Seeing what the rotating stuff looked like, I'm guessing it will at least be an okay running engine, once you sort out the electronics. Nothing but fun my brother...at least for your viewers! Thanks for the show!
Thanks for the show Wayne, yes I would like to see it running please 🍻🇦🇺
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Me too
Awesome save.
That brought back memories. I had an old Eagle with a 6V92T . I loved driving the old thing.
Another great video!!
Scored a 3-53 the other day, runs pretty swell, no blow by.. it’s great, scored a 4-71 a few months ago that was rebuilt 30 years ago. Pickled. And stuffed in the guys garage for his sawmill, and it real nice, the 5 before that, all skanked out haha. Win some loose some
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Yup, all part of the game. These ones makes the wins that much sweeter!
@stubbsshop
7 ай бұрын
Was it the 3-53 for sale near Missoula, MT? I wanted to get that a few days ago and it was sold right before I had the chance to make it down lol
@cullen9017
6 ай бұрын
@@stubbsshop upper peninsula of mi, wasn’t for sale, just a private deal I stumbled across
I have had that mysterious rattle in my 8V92 for 25 thousand miles. Sounds just like your alternator mount . I really hate to pull it, but better than losing an engine , almost zero clearance from the firewall in my diesel pusher motorhome.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Definitely worth the trouble to investigate!!
Another great video Wayne. You tha man
Thank you Wayne, this one has me paying attention. I' ll wait happily 😉 Damn, we got 25 degrees to teens & lite snows with gusts in Columbia MO Edit,😅Right, pre slab....
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
yea i've had this on deck for awhile.
Dang what a pile of junk. GREAT VIDEO
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
There’s no doubt in my mind that you will make it run!
@traceystealz0318
7 ай бұрын
For sure!!!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
We aint never not made it yet!!
Uncle Wayno love it when you're doing the sketchy shit❤
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Pretty much an every day thing
Sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you get to be the bug. Better luck on another day.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Exactly
There's a bus here in Florida for sale I seen on marketplace with a Detroit 6v92 or something like that. First thing I thought of you. I'll have to save your email to send stuff like the one I seen. 😊
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@2dogsmowing
7 ай бұрын
@Ol2Stroker 👍 I'll see if I can find it again. The post said it ran. But inside was made into a tattoo parlor at one point. Lol It don't look the best anymore. Obviously who cares on that part.
That's a drag when they don't light off on their own, but oh well...
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
We'll get er next time!
My new favorite I’m all about the 2 Strokes I’ve been teaching myself on 6V92 no mechanics on the gulf coast so… I’m a sponge on all the info
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Badass!! They're fun!
Great video Wayne glad to see it's turns over after you found the noise behind the alternator. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Wayne.
Never knew any 2 strokes were ddec. Try to learn something everyday. Now im good for the day
@danielrenovetz5721
6 ай бұрын
Since 1986, BG 2PT
Damn Wayne what did you bring home this time.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Junk!
You will get it running.
Imagine mid mounting this in a stepvan (bread van)
@DanEBoyd
7 ай бұрын
Imagine the noise from inside the vehicle!🤣🤣
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Yessssss!!
@thundermite1241
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker sketchy loud but un assuming in appereance except for the smoke stack that exits through the roof
Nothing like a low dollar 8V92T. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if one fell in my lap.
The best salvage video I've seen on anybody's channel . That alternator drive has a harmonic balancer built in ? And was that specificly on a 92 only ? When I first saw the tapered heads of those screws in the oil pan, I wondered where they could have come from ? Good to see my throttle petal is being used .
That drive coming apart was impressive if he hadn't of recorded it no one would believe him
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
thats what i'm saying!!! one in a million the engine survived that.
@sethnonya8566
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker ikr ! Only a detroit would tho let's be honest here haha
Diagnostic, problem solving, fabrication guru, welding stud, wrench slingin, cave man badassmuthafucka should be your title on the office door 🤟
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Yea but then it'd be someone else's office 🤣🤣🤣🤣 thanks man
Apparently you haven’t learned anything. You’ve been there before. lol 😂 Good luck on this one.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty hard headed
@bigslim492
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker I knew there was a reason I liked you. lol
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@@bigslim492 🤣🤣🤣 at least someone does!
@user-ji7xi4sh6q
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker Hey dude your great at what you do to keep these old iron running
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@@user-ji7xi4sh6q thanks man!
Damn Wayne that is really good shit 😂
I know where there is an 8/92 that's 500hp and runs great. It is in a 1996 fire truck and has a Alison trany. He was asking 15000 for it, but is having health problems and would probably take less now!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
15k is way outa my budget!!
@AlanRoehrich9651
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker Mine too! I'd think you could probably buy one surplus for a lot less
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@@AlanRoehrich9651 they have been outrageous surplus lately.
I started off drunk watching this is that a 8v, we only need to see the 12v that’s gonna make the long hood whole again
I'd run a buy atleast 5 lottery tickets 😅😂😂
,,, my KW alternator lost one volt from 13.8 down to 12.8 , let the weeds grow up and ground it , and back up to 13.8 .
I was hoping to see some video of the new V12 truck?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
How about next week?
@ricksmith4736
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker As long as its not on Peacock like the GREEDY NFL....
Gotta love scrapper hacks...they sure can feck some stuff up! Can we get a quick walk around of your girl's Burb at some point??!!
You could grab a DDEC 3 or 4 and convert it if you have the DDCT software... Even if you have the old cams with the old firing order, if you know what you're doing to can program the DDEC 3/4 to work with it. Every DDEC 2 you find is going to be hot garbage or gold-plated.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
there was a firing order change?
@porkbuttrocks
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker Yeah the DDEC 1's actually used the mechanical cams and somewhere in the DDEC 2 run they changed them, and the firing order was changed.
@porkbuttrocks
7 ай бұрын
I know they changed the 6V firing order for sure, maybe they didn't do the 8V? I'll have to dig to figure that one out.
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@@porkbuttrocks ill pull up a couple tune files ... That would mean cams and shit are different also...
@porkbuttrocks
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Stroker Cams are different for sure. If you've got a shot of the data plate/sticker I can try to look up the numbers in my books.
There’s a running v16 duetz w900 for sale here in wa
I love to see this thanks like more 😘
The tongue is a great detective tool, but the nose is far superior. How I know the vintage of women.😂😂
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Bahahahahah
12:57 Ol’ Roscoe P Coultrain! 😂
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
my favorite!!
Had that been a pre DDEC, thisbvideo would have been 1/2 this long.
Cheers wayne😂
Sometimes you win and sometimes not unless you don't try then you never win. What's your day job?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Dinosaur hunter!
@dandersonjr
7 ай бұрын
I own a campground and people always ask me what else I do so Dinosaur Hunter sounds like a good occupation to tell them. Thanks.@@Ol2Stroker
Forgive my ignorance, but could it have something to do with those electrical connections you were having trouble with? Had a similar issue with one of my vehicles, and it turned out I didn't exactly align the quick disconnect, and one pin wasn't making good contact. Just a thought.
YES -- SMOO
Like #54. Im about 10 min into the vidya and I dint hear you say if its an 871 or an 892. Maybe you said it at the same time I crack'd open my beer. 😆🍺
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
8v92
@charlesangell_bulmtl
7 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, I believe that was 8-92 on the breather...
Ive seen you use software with several ECMs. Do they all use a standard communication protocol or something? Or do you need specific files and sw for each engine?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
You need specific software for each but the nexiq connects to em all
looked like a few teeth in the first part had some nibbles off em at about the 14.50 mark of the vid
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Hmmm lemme go look. If you're right that means i missed it twice!
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
@Wolfe351 sonofabitch.... you know I personally did all this work AND edited the fucking video and still managed to miss that not once, not twice but probably 10 times! Ha! Good eye!
Yeah..those 50DN alternators r choice... ha
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Choice ain't the word!
OSHA approved Crocs bawhahahaha
@Ol2Stroker: Which software are you using to read the ECM and where can a fellow get it?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I dunno where to get it but i use DDRS and DDDL
I have a question Wayne. Hypothetically, could you build a twin turbo 12V71 DDEC with aftercoolers under twin bypass blowers? I was looking about the place and found a PDF that showed an 8V71TA rated at 370hp. I didn't however see if there was a 6V71TA version, nor did it mention bypass blowers. I assume it is pre DDEC but I got wondering if a 71 series V12 could have aftercooling, twin bypass blowers and DDEC?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
I don't see why not
@AlanRoehrich9651
7 ай бұрын
I think a 12V71 would need two computers. It could be done, but it won't be cheap, or easy. I don't think the 12V71 will get to the power to weight ratio of an 8V92. Not with similar equipment.
Did that come out of a bus or tug boat?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Bus.
Is there supposed to be a little play on that cam gear? When you were spinning motor by hand she looked a little sloppy?
do we need to send peg to your house to show you how to operate a can of starting fluid???
at 15 min into it she runs
Is that an 8v71 or a 92 Wayno?
Damn the pan has. A dent in it some one fucked up who ever the mechanic who worked on. It should be fired wane
@gregorygrimaldi9030
7 ай бұрын
That was the first thing I noticed as well that pan is toasted.
30:39 Looks like a case of the ole' shitty dodge wiring
the DDEC/ATEC combo really sux
I am trying to get my hands on a DDEC III or IV 12V92 for my cabover, any leads on one that doesn't cost 2 nuts, 1 arm and 1.5 legs?
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
That's a real hard to find engine my friend.
@jonmarshall64
7 ай бұрын
@@Ol2Strokeryup, even a mechanical 12v92 would be ok at this point. Got a 6v in my 71 fleetstar dump truck, an 8v the 79 General, a few others stashed around, but want a 12v for the transtar. Need to run out to the coast and see what my step dad has stashed, I just dont talk to him as much as I should, and it's wierd to show up for just that. 🤷🏿♂️
What software for the laptop are you using. To run that killer test rig setup
What does Wayne do for a living?
@danielrenovetz5721
6 ай бұрын
Play, Even while on the clock .
If it starts with a D it's definitely the worst engine you ever bought
@Ol2Stroker
7 ай бұрын
Oh come on now