Military Life: Sub-Cultures of the Army

Each of the Army's branches has it's own unique culture. There are things an infantry Soldier does well and things they don't. Understanding these differences makes you better at working together and leading successful teams.
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  • @ricovargas9775
    @ricovargas977525 күн бұрын

    As a young Field Artillery officer, my best friend was the battalion medical officer. My commander sat me down and explained to me that meat eaters aren't friends with plant eaters.

  • @armynurseboy

    @armynurseboy

    25 күн бұрын

    Until your butt gets blown up, then he's your best friend.....😉

  • @freedomloverusa3030

    @freedomloverusa3030

    24 күн бұрын

    Medical is just different.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Medical is very different.

  • @carlhicksjr8401

    @carlhicksjr8401

    22 күн бұрын

    As a former tank crewman and cavalryman... HE WAS RIGHT! 🤣 OK, jokes aside, the social aspect of being an officer is something I was deeply grateful I never had to do. I understand that getting to know your fellow practitioners in the Ministry of Methodical Mayhem is an important part of being on the team, but sometimes some of was complete bullshit. Your wife doesn't get along with Mrs. S4? Your kid throw mud at the SGM's kid? You didn't stay late enough at the officers only bitchy alcoholics meeting? All that stuff can crater your career before you make 1LT. Thanks, but I'll pass.

  • @carlhicksjr8401

    @carlhicksjr8401

    22 күн бұрын

    @@the_bureaucrat Medical is almost not even in the military until they get out on Civvie Street and find out just how much they **were** in the military. It's kinda nice to be able to completely dismiss a patient's problems with a flu pack, 1200mm of Motrin, and RICE therapy [pick two].

  • @stinkymccheese8010
    @stinkymccheese801025 күн бұрын

    Important things to consider for civilians planning to hire vets.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    That is an excellent point.

  • @Moto-foody
    @Moto-foody25 күн бұрын

    Aaaahhhhhh, 9mm missing?!?!?!?! Don’t freak me out like that sir. I’m a retired 11B and when I was a young PVT we were in a Blackhawk flying over Yakima Firing Center and the brand new PL dropped his M9 out of the aircraft (another story altogether). All training stopped and the whole company was online, dress right dress, walking through scrub brush for 2 days until we finally found it. Needless to say that young 2LT was moved up to battalion, then he sorta just disappeared.

  • @thevet2009

    @thevet2009

    25 күн бұрын

    It brings back memories of when I was a captain in the training area at Fort Stewart with my company. I stumbled upon two SINCGARS radios lying on the dirt road. Turns out, they had fallen out because an E4 from another unit hadn't properly secured them in his vehicle's cargo area.

  • @rickt.1870

    @rickt.1870

    25 күн бұрын

    Same thing happened to us at NTC. A Cobra pilot from another Company had taken his ALSE vest off, and draped it over a TOW missile launcher while shut down in a FAARP. Then he had to scramble in a hurry and forgot about it. Luckily for us, the vest was easier to find than just the weapon, and it was found fairly quickly.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    When I was a Assistant BDE S4, we would do Company inspections and I'd always start off by chatting with the CO and 1SG about how you didn't need to inspect the whole unit, you just had to look in the 1SG's office wall locker. This one guy got real made and flung open his wall locker...and there was a full box of live ammo sitting right there 🤣

  • @rickt.1870

    @rickt.1870

    23 күн бұрын

    @@the_bureaucrat Sounds like you had a dry sense of humor that went right over his head...

  • @carlhicksjr8401

    @carlhicksjr8401

    21 күн бұрын

    I watched an entire clinic get emptied of every single piece of furniture and equipment when 5 narcotic pain pills went missing from the pharmacy count at shift end. The work was done by the officers, WOs and enlisted of that clinic under the grade of Major... with the divisional SGM watching the whole parade. The only time in 6 years in the Army I ever watched a captain lift something heavy. I should note that this was the early 80s and the Army was **really** coming down hard on drugs in the barracks and what not.

  • @VulcanGunner
    @VulcanGunner25 күн бұрын

    Spent my last two years in the Army with C 4/3 ADA attached to 1/16 Inf at Fort Riley, Kansas. They treated us like second class citizens even though with had the same BFV and shot up to table 8 for Gunnery. Yes, we took Top Squad and Top Company from the Infantry. The Battalion Commander was so embarrassed that if we had an Regiment or Division function with colors, we were ordered to take those nice Top Squad / Company Streamers off of our Red Air Defense Artillery Guidon. It was great to hear the Battalion Commander to call us to attention, we were last so you heard Company, Company, Company and then Battery. Would have loved to see the Division notice those streamers on our Guidon. Oh, by the way the Battalion Master Gunnery at one point was an Air Defender. Man, they hated us and I took crap as the Battery Training Noncom ever time I went to Bn HQ. I was told that I was not in a combat arms MOS, because I was ADA. I would just smile as ask where are the Top Gun streamers? Started as a 16R (Short Range Gunnery Crewman) better known as the Vulcan Air Defense Weapon System. Spent about four years on the Bradley, sorry the Vulcan cannon was way more fun. Hard to beat 3000 rpm with a 20mm gatling gun, although ammo clean up was a bitch.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    That's awful that they would make you take the streamers off.

  • @VulcanGunner

    @VulcanGunner

    24 күн бұрын

    @@the_bureaucrat Oh, they were embarrassed.

  • @quitequiet5281

    @quitequiet5281

    23 күн бұрын

    YUuuuuUP! LOL.. i am more familiar with this dynamic than i would like to be. LOL ❤ 13F1P 🇺🇸🦅

  • @VulcanGunner

    @VulcanGunner

    23 күн бұрын

    @@quitequiet5281 I never looked down on any other MOS, I like my chow hot, paid on time, the track fixed and so on. If you study Supply Chain Management (SCM), used to be called logistics; It takes a bunch of support to put one grunt into the field. Numerous Germans during WW2 could not fathom the amount of material that was provided to our service members in the field. Hell, you can still find WW2 surplus all over the place. Thanks for your service, with respect SSG Riley, US Army, Retired.

  • @nunyabidness3075

    @nunyabidness3075

    20 күн бұрын

    First to Fire! Frankly, I would hope a duck hunter would be more accurate. Your primary responsibility was hitting the targets that actually moved faster than 35 mph. I did fire a Vulcan at range day when they let the officers shoot. My commander was firing at the same time, and he claimed all the kills, lol. West Pointers, sheesh. I’m guessing your battery got more than its share of details?

  • @kurtrussell5228
    @kurtrussell522825 күн бұрын

    Do you want to make Senior NCO? Then don't pick a support MOS, go into into infantry(11), armour(19) , artillery(13) or air defense (14)

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    I'm not sure this is true. The support MOS's are filled with senior NCOs, but those NCOs are far removed from Soldiers. And if you want to be a "real" senior NCO combat arms is the way to go.

  • @kevinallies1014

    @kevinallies1014

    18 күн бұрын

    @the_bureaucrat Once you are above SFC or are an SFC who has completed their Platoon Sergeant time none of those jobs are “real”. A 1SG in an Infantry Company does essentially the same thing as a 1SG in Personnel Service Company on a regular basis. Yeah the 1SG of a line company has the beans and bullets job when you are operating in a field environment but the majority of the job is exactly the same. The E-9 Jobs are virtually indistinguishable by career field.

  • @johnplunkett6864
    @johnplunkett686424 күн бұрын

    Signal Corp for 30 years. As an Lt I understood where things were on the battlefield/distances better than most CA MAJ’s/LTC. If a Ranger had a problem, we noticed he would just backup try to hit his head against it harder.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    23 күн бұрын

    I was a quartermaster. I notice early on that when Infantry types got scared or confused they responded with violence and aggression. It works in its own way. I never thought about how "line of sight" communications would force someone to have a 3D map of the battlefield in their head. Good insight.

  • @dodgermartin4895
    @dodgermartin489524 күн бұрын

    I have two branches, me, USMC. Wife USN. In the USMC the culture is like the three parts of a Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF). In a MEF there is a Logistics Group, Air Wing, and the Division. Each has its own culture. The Navy,... is like there are 20 Navies: The Black Shoe Navy, The Brown Shoe Navy, The Bubble Head Navy, The CB Navy, The Frogman Navy, The Gator Navy... and so on. My wife was in the Marine Corps Navy... those are Sailors in the medical field who are assigned to Marine Corps units, and those Sailors lose all identity with the Navy and become to identify more with the Marines who captured them. They are allowed to wear any USMC uniform (incl Charlies & Alphas) except dress blues... they go out beyond the wire as fully functional riflemen until they hear the call "Corpsman Up." They get designated by the Navy as "Fleet Marine Force (FMF) Corpsmen NEC 8404. If you want to tick off an FMF corpsmen, give him orders to a Blueside Navy Hospital.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Aren't Navy Corpsmen the ones with the highest concentration of MOH just because of their association with Marines?

  • @dodgermartin4895

    @dodgermartin4895

    24 күн бұрын

    @@the_bureaucrat I do believe that of all Navy enlisted rates (what the Army calls MOS) that have received the MOH, there are more in the Hospitalman rate than any other rate. However, I don't know how many were assigned to USMC units vs USN units. It's a big Navy, and I'm sure there was a lot heroism at sea as well.

  • @adamc6371
    @adamc637120 күн бұрын

    I found that these subcultures may also be more organizational than MOS/branch specific. Such as having more in common with a completely different MOS in an specific unit such as airborne unit rather than I do with my LEG counterpart who might not get it or just doesnt conform the same way (nearly) all paratroopers do to something. Airborne culture is definitely a real thing and kinda hoping the Army sees that it can produce more stability in soldiers lifes by allowing them to stay in the same greater unit or location rather than PCS every 3 years "just because". Really not uncommon to find guys who have spent their 20+ year careers "in division" or at bragg with the exception of 2 or 3 year stints in recruting/drill/school house instructor. I'm sure it also saves plenty of money not having to ship your whole life across the country and spend time "inprocessing/outprocessing" posts if you're just moving offices down the street.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    19 күн бұрын

    That is an interesting upside of airborne units. I think the Army is learning that the constant PCSing isn't popular with anyone.

  • @MDavidW100
    @MDavidW10025 күн бұрын

    Thanks again Chuck!

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    25 күн бұрын

    No doubt, man. I thought you would like it.

  • @quitequiet5281
    @quitequiet528123 күн бұрын

    That was Beautifully Wonderfully Elegantly stated... this video should be required viewing. Occasionally their are individuals who develop a multicultural perspective and embrace the workplace environment situation. Multiple chain of command structures and multiple responsibilities and duties create very complicated complexities and often the plow horses prefer to cover up their ignorance rather than recognizing what they didn’t have clearances for... Sometimes being tied to multiple chains of command is like being tied to wild horses. If you learn to tie them to the work... they either pull together and get the work done... Or they deliberately delay, sandbag, guffaw and BS... It’s only when you recognize that you have speak properly to each of them in terminology that they understand and simultaneously be genuine and have integrity... or else the long term consequences of getting what you want at the moment is going to future ramifications and consequences preventing anything from occurring properly in a timely manner each time something comes up. With some people deliberately creating that outcome for whatever reason. LOL... as a Army Forward Observer the Navy battleship will fire at my command if i send the communications to make it so... However the Navy will destroy the target properly if the command “fire when ready” is sent... As a soldier standing on the ground looking at things... I know what i know and i can see what i see. I don’t know what it’s like for the Navy ship out at sea. I have no idea what they have to do make it so. They have no idea what i have deal with and go through in order to gather battlefield information. When you recognize and understand the different perspectives and behaviors of each of cultures... You have a better understanding of facilitating success and victory in every endeavor and situation. Often the special projects and prototype developments are a landscape all their own. lol... translators and embassy delegations are required. Sigh... ❤️🇺🇸🦅

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    23 күн бұрын

    You are too kind. And I love that I just learned about the eagle emoji...🦅

  • @GentlemanJack295
    @GentlemanJack29525 күн бұрын

    Good subject. I was once assigned to Infantry and they had the culture of a locker room combined with a frat house. A friend of mine who was Infantry was a very "nice" guy. He did not do well there. Good Points

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Thank you sir.

  • @wompa70
    @wompa7025 күн бұрын

    Then there are the sub-sub-cultures. I spent most of my 10 years in aerial exploitation battalions. Fixed wing aviation, too. The OV-1 Mohawk community was unlike any other in the Army.

  • @rickt.1870

    @rickt.1870

    25 күн бұрын

    So true, in my realm it was the gun-bunnies vs. the lift pukes.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Turtles all the way down.

  • @Tsa19858
    @Tsa1985825 күн бұрын

    The thing I hated about infantry culture is that if you have to use POGs as an example for you to talk down to or compare yourself to than you aren’t elite. This goes for the marines times 10 since their whole identity is based around bashing the army. Marine and Army infantry culture is cringey at times. The best dudes I saw were pretty humble and quiet in the infantry. The chest thumpers were lame and end up being bro vets and never let it go until death.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Yeah, it can be a fine line.

  • @YeetCannon254

    @YeetCannon254

    20 күн бұрын

    You sound like you were a subpar infantryman who probably only did one enlistment and only made it to E4. If you're so thin-skinned that the lighthearted rivalry hurt you, then hopefully you got out so the unit was stronger, as they had one less liability to look out for.

  • @Tsa19858

    @Tsa19858

    20 күн бұрын

    @@YeetCannon254 In my world real grunts didn’t have a rivalry with non combat arms MOS. A clerk definitely wasn’t on my radar unless he was fixing my pay. The simple fact my comment offended you speaks volumes. To this day I could go on FB and find some turd I knew was soft and below average back then and he’s usually the one all decked out in grunt style and “I’m the sheep dog” nonsense. It never fails.

  • @thevet2009
    @thevet200925 күн бұрын

    I've been 11B, 11A, 90A and finally a 51A...it's better to be a Log Toad.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    Huh, I was a Quartermaster officer when I started out and we would get some of you 11B turned 90A guys. You never seemed very happy about it.

  • @rickt.1870
    @rickt.187025 күн бұрын

    The Infantry and Armor officers hated Army Aviators. They considered us to be a bunch of undisciplined prima donnas.

  • @kurtrussell5228

    @kurtrussell5228

    25 күн бұрын

    ......you are

  • @garyowen9044

    @garyowen9044

    25 күн бұрын

    @@kurtrussell5228 you beat me to it.

  • @garyowen9044

    @garyowen9044

    25 күн бұрын

    Some of my best friends are from our aviation asset. However, at reunions, I still button the flap on my wallet pocket.

  • @rickt.1870

    @rickt.1870

    24 күн бұрын

    @@kurtrussell5228 🤣🤣🤣

  • @freedomloverusa3030

    @freedomloverusa3030

    24 күн бұрын

    Medical here, aviators are the coolers guys in the whole Army!!

  • @airborneranger-ret
    @airborneranger-ret25 күн бұрын

    Liked and subbed I found most MI types to be fairly useless, WADR. All most want is someone to hand them intel which they can then pass on.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    My view is that every sub-culture has it's negatives and you just have to take the good and work around the bad. When I was working in the Pentagon, the hard charging infantry types could get tons of work out of folks, but because they relied on force of personality, their accomplishments would fall apart when they left. And Bureaucrats like me often don't have a clear enough view of the "real Army"...we can write the policy, but someone has to tell us what the policy is supposed to do. That's why I loved working arm in arm with the Combat Arms Types. Teamwork

  • @ashleymarie7452
    @ashleymarie745224 күн бұрын

    BOGUS ALERT: 0:19: Second photo of four is of an Air Force Security Force member!!

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    24 күн бұрын

    This is the problem with having an Air Force guy producing my videos...he thinks its funny to slip that crap in when I'm not looking.

  • @carlhicksjr8401
    @carlhicksjr840122 күн бұрын

    Combat Arms is interested in results, aka 'how much damage did I do to Mr. Bad Guy'. Everything revolves around that simple equation. Combat Support is interested in the process... 'how many widgets do I need to move to Bumfuck Egypt on what timetable'. If they do their job, the sharp end troops don't fuck with them. Combat Service Support is worried about the quality of the coffee, getting off work on time, and rubbing the 'power of the paperwork' in the faces of real soldiers. They're essentially useless outside of an office, but do most of the whining about how 'hard' their deployment was. There. I did it in 3 minutes, including correcting typos.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    22 күн бұрын

    Can't argue with that.

  • @letsplaywar
    @letsplaywar23 күн бұрын

    in my opinion all that is needed to win wars is the Air force and navy. I disregard the Us army and marine corps since the Air force is better.

  • @the_bureaucrat

    @the_bureaucrat

    23 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your willingness to say such bold things in public.

  • @letsplaywar

    @letsplaywar

    23 күн бұрын

    @@the_bureaucrat If a War Happens Send in a Couple F-35 and B-2 Spirit and we'll get the job done. is the Marine Corps or Us army able to drop Nukes?