Like many outdoorsmen who also dig military history/surplus & equipment I’ve watched many-a-film (particularly We Were Soldiers) and wondered about the late Korea/early Vietnam era buttpacks. Firstly I should mention that after developing a “war belt” (around my 1911) the same realization hit that landed 25 years ago when building a carpentry/ framers tool belt: SUSPENDERS. Any time either significant weight or even lofty volume is carried predominantly on one’s hips either a Y or H harness is necessary. Recently my 3 month commitment to rucking (for both better cardio & weight loss) was interrupted by 10 days of unanticipated back spasms. I could walk fine but couldn’t hump any of my 30-40 pound packs without risking a fully seized up back. When a rucking regimen loses the pack element you’re back to recreational walking and the calories burned per hour reduces to 1/3rd those eliminated while carrying additional weight. The necessity of a harness & buttpack was immediately obvious. Had I just been able to wear the weight lower I could’ve better stuck to my workout. But to reiterate: whether a surplus milspec option or a civilian choice SUSPENSION is a must

8:16 need to run a chunk of old candle up n down that zipper. Aside from a couple Cliff bars, hard caramels, caffeine tablets 😊& jerky you’re looking good. (I’m not a Grayl guy but it’s still a solid scouting kit. A great “leavin my pack at camp” kit

Very logical setup - also, very compact and doesn't require a lot of the "un-necessary" equipment. Impressed as always. Keep em coming Trent.

If you look on the inside of that bag it says it's a waist pack. The butt pack is the square when it goes on the back of the pistol belt. Two different purposes. I still today use my Woodland camouflage but pack on the back of my FL see when I make a trek out in the woods. But still a decent video keep up the good work

Nice kit. My only suggestion: add a mosquito headnet. Keeps the bugs off, and makes it easy to catch grasshoppers.

Awesome man! Love seeing the surplus kits!

I must say I am impressed with your packing ability.

Just Mount the waist pack on that top single row of Molle webbing. That will allow you to free up more space in the Assault pack or Patrol pack.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I did, it flops around too much.

The buttpack was designed to attach to the bottom of the assault pack. That would free up a lot of room in the main compartment.

Nice load our Jake seen Dave pull a overnighter out of the butt pack yrs ago

A very practical, well thought out kit set-up. Great that you displayed the way to pack it too.

Very functional minimalist set-up. You're the best JT. Cheers from Australia.

No guessing who your guru is...great kit son...woods

Creative. I personally don’t like the waist pack so it stays in the plastic until CIF wants it back. But I also use a LBE system with an actual buttpack. To each their own. Nice to see it being used practically instead of giant Hygiene kit or woobie/tarp sack.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I usually just sling this one over my shoulder, compared to the actual buttpack I think I like this one just a tat better just for that reason

Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing the contents of your military style survival pack. It looks like you're set for just about any emergency 🤗

Nice video. The waist pack is made to attach to the PALS webbing on the bottom of the 3 day assault pack.

@nomadmarauder-dw9re

2 ай бұрын

Or the FLC.

Good one Jake! While I love the extra storage of my day pack, I really like the option of using a butt pack to keep the heat off my back & still carry everything I need. Thanks for sharing, brother!

Great Kit!

I wish the army still had that system. Great piece of kit.

@DocCypher

Жыл бұрын

We are. Still issued that exact same waist pack. It’s just muilticam.

@Swish82

Жыл бұрын

@@DocCypher noice

I prefer a 25 liter backpack or smaller as a survival kit, you can go smaller and lighter wight with the smaller Grayl UltraPress press or other water filters, and carry a collapsible water bag/bottle. You can carry the Grayl with the cup and other smaller items on a water bottle pouch, you'll free up space in the Butt pack. You can also try the Helikon-Tex Foxtrot MK2 instead of this.

Damn ! If you use a shoe horn you might be able to fit a sheet of paper in there too ! LOL ! Nice kit . I just picked up 3 of them , 2 for side bags on my KLX and 1 to keep a grab and go kit in my work truck .

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

It was definitely a tight fit😂

Awesome kit brother !! I love seeing other peoples setups. I love the military butt packs, I have carried something similar for years....

Awesome video Brother

Great load out Jake.

I dig it brother, definitely food for thought. God bless

Nice gear setup. The only big change I would make is the rucksack. I've preferred a large Alice for many years, a leftover I guess you could say since I was in the service.But that's just me.

Great content. Keep up you’re great work. Reporting live from the high desert of Arizona lol

Well thought out, good job young man!! Thank you for sharing...😊

Nice set up Jake! Love the surplus packs brother!!

Good video and I am going use a variation of this to make a get home kit. I work close to home so I do not need a full blown kit. Thank you for the inspiration.

Great packc and i also go tool heavy thats for sharing Jake

Great video Jake.

Great job

I have that butt pack snd patrol pack, I like the way you organize your great in that butt pack, I haven’t had that much gear in my pack before, those packs are very good budget items, that military grade is very tough , I only buy these military surplus, for me just as good as all that high dollar gear, good video Jake

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

It’s like a clown car things just keep coming out. Great job packing.

Those are great bags 👍🏼👍🏼😎

Outstanding pack.

Nice set up my friend

Nice setup

Great butt pack dump out Jake,very impressive.🍀👍😎

The Selling Force For Dave Canterbury's Gear is strong in this one. WARNING Keep your credit card hidden far, far away while watching this. It's one big sales pitch, like most of their videos. However, having said that . . . this is A VERY GOOD idea. These MOLLE Waistpacks are cheap as dirt. They hold somewhere between 360 to 396 cubic inches depending on who's counting. When you figure a 14x12 envelope haversack is probably going to hold around 300 cubic inches you can see that it's superior at a fraction of the cost. PLUS . . . They spread weight out laterally right at your hip bones or small of the back depending on how you carry it. I find that easier than having a purse hanging off my shoulder. Plus you can also pull the bag to either side or the front just to give the back a rest. If you're hiking uphill or moving fast on flat ground, these waistpacks are superior to buttpacks or haversacks. PLUS . . . It also comes with a good nylon belt and solid plastic buckle. Or, you can cut the belt off and run a pistol belt (or I suppose leather belt) through the back. PLUS . . . it has two solid straps on either side that you can lengthen and carry a poncho in (on the outside so it's easy to grab). PLUS . . . like the gentleman said it can be carried as a shoulder bag. PLUS . . . I sewed two traps on mine with a D Ring on each. I hook up and H Harness to it and can carry up to a gallon of water (8 pounds) with no problem. It still leaves room for more stuff but I only carry water when I carry that much water. Other gear can be carried in a haversack or what I use . . . a Market Wallet. Great ideas in this video and lots of food for thought. Thanks!

Thank you Jake! Brian from Whippoorwill Bushcraft..

I would attach the waist pack to the outside, so that I could carry extra gear in the patrol pack, I have several of both these packs, and bags.

That machete type knife is awesome. D🤙🇺🇸😎

Very nice my friend 🤠

Nice bro. I LOVE mil surp. See you in September.

Excellent video.

Cool Video 👍 Thank U for the Info 👍

Nice kit but what about some kind of first aid kit? Other than the bandana of course.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I will throw a bleed kit in my bag before heading out, especially if I’m carrying. I always have one in my bag while I’m teaching classes, just in case a student get injured.

Excelente video, gracias

Thank you for that video...what a quick response! Love the poncho! Is the bic lighter cover repurposed or is that commercially available?

You need a medical kit, accidents and belly aches happen! A bad bout of diarrhea can ruin your day (or more)! I would make a quick release system to attach your butt pack to the bottom of your day bag! Carry some food; you don't have to use it but it is far better to have and not need than need and not have! Finally, a walking stick is a great addition as it can be used as an immediate self-defense tool or shaft for your frog gig or fishing pole, etc. I too like a machete-style big blade but I carry a firearm (pistol) as well! Thanks for the video!

Like your load out except for the hammock, like you said for big dudes might not be the best choice, Dave is a smaller dude it works for him….would like to see a load out with a better hammock….

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

It works well in a bridge style setup. I’ve got a nice compact hammock coming for this kit that has a bigger footprint

I've been in the military and never saw a butt pack like that.

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Since the buttpack has its own straps, why not wear it around your waist and the space in your backpack for food, extra clothes and even extra water? Or, why not find a way to hang the buttpack under the backpack and use the free space for other items?

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I’m not a fan of putting stuff around my waist. I used this system for an overnighter and it performed perfect for me. Food is a given, I always hav that with me when going out for a few days, that’s why I just never show it.

@joseligeiro

Жыл бұрын

@@buckeyebushcraft I could show you some options I have for my backpacks, but I can't show them here. I have two of these bags in Universal Camouflage Pattern, but I dyed them green and they look spectacular. I use them on my waist or attached to any backpack up to 30L, where I carry whatever I need for any outdoor activity. I also take comfort items, so I always take two or three extra kilos.

thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice kit but a whole roll of bank line? You must be building a lot or something. Have fun stay safe.

Great kit ! Mess kit or stove?

Not a bad kit. I really have a dislike for name brand gear, as it's almost always extremely over priced. But you look to have pretty much everything you need. I'd get rid of the poncho and hammock and replace it with a 10' x 10'-ish tarp with a reflective side, to make it easy to keep warm at night. It'll take up less room. Then you could add a few more things like a water filter, a pair of gloves and/or a bit of food. Their is a ton of great gear out there, that isn't priced outrageously.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

There’s a water filter in it bro, that’s what the Grayl is. I don’t normally use gloves. You have to think I’m in the woods teaching and on my own time 80% of the year, so the equipment I carry has to last me because this is my lively hood. Nothing wrong with less expensive gear at all, but for me, I buy the best quality so it lasts me longer.

Corp’s Corner recommended you.

I see the compass and pace beads, but where is the paper map and protractor to go with it? The Army taught me how to use them together, but not teally one without the other. I love the loadout, and I'm going to look for that hammock on line, but I didn't see any netting for your head or bed either. (I got it, limited space, but bugs are the devil.)

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I keep a rite in the rain notebook in my pocket. You don’t need a protractor if you have one of those with you.

Now your out on your own, what do you think of the pathfinder headlamp. Is it a good piece of kit or what headlamp would you recomend. Thanks

Way to stay lightweight

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If you reverse the female buckles would this work as a side pouch for Alice rucks? I've passed on these because I've got buttpacks and plenty of pouches already.

And you might save some space in your pack if you attach the butt pack to the bottom of the patrol pack as it was designed

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I would, but it flops around too much for me.

I got a question for ya. I'm like the same hight and build as you. How does the swagman roll or basic really fit? I've heard some things about the head hole and have become hesitant on getting one. Also, thanks for doing that Instagram thing, I quite enjoy your messages!

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

The swagman is a tight fit both lengthwise and width if I use it like a sleeping bag. If I open it up and use it like a blanket it works perfect.

@asmith7876

Жыл бұрын

The Swagman is great but yeah, when I pull it on I have to take my glasses off and squeeze my head through it. I’m not a big guy so I don’t know who they modeled this for! But it’s a great piece, the price has gone insane though.

That leather could use some mink oil! 😅

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely wearing out lol

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So ? All the heavy things go on one side and the light stuff goes on the other side... 😊

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

If I’m wearing it in a sling style, yes…

It's a decent setup, I find it too small

Ok,let's say I made a scouting bag with everything you have, and I go hiking. Most humans walk at around four miles an hour, and I've scouted for approximately seven hours. This takes me approximately 28 miles from base camp. I have an accident, my foot slipped on a rock and I now have a deep long cut that is hemorrhaging. I go to my scouting bag and find nothing to help me. No trama kit, no first aid kit, I'm in trouble. The reason I bring this up is not to scare people, but shit happens, and if you're not prepared for a medical emergency, you could very well die. Having a plan of action for a medical emergency is critical for survival in any situation. I carry an advanced trama kit and a very well stocked first aid kit with my " scouting " system. On another note. Carry a way to purify water. One little bottle will not last. I suggest either a LifeStraw or similar purification method.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I always hav a heavy bleeding kit with me. I don’t mention it because it’s common sense. That “one little bottle” is by far the best filter on the market today because it not only filters out what other water filters won’t, but I can carry water over distance with it. A lifestraw is a piece of crap.

The butt pack is actually designed to attach the bottom of that pack.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

I know. I didn’t put it there for a reason

@outcomeagent

Жыл бұрын

@@buckeyebushcraft fair enough trust me even being in the military the molly system and how stuff is SUPPOSED to go together is confusing AF. And I was not trying to insult anyone's intelligence but honestly some people just don't know. And it's weird stuff to like how the bandolier snaps into the inside of the front pocket....wtf...lol

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

@@outcomeagent Yea I didn’t put it on the bottom because it kinda flops around too much. I wasn’t trying to be a dick lol😂

@outcomeagent

Жыл бұрын

It's all good bro. Yeah it is kinda a pain in the ass pun lol. And it does put it in kind of an awkward position. I love my assault pack I do wish it was just a little bit bigger and had at least 1 side pocket. But as far as those butt packs go I do also like to run them as a sling. Also wish they were about 4 inches longer...but that's what she said right LOL

No food, no first aid.

@buckeyebushcraft

11 ай бұрын

Because those are just common sense items that everyone should always have with them.

Hello…

So, to be clear, you prepose that this is a budget kit? By my estimation, this kit will cost $500.00 using the components you list.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

No…. I never said it’s a budget kit. I said I’m buying military surplus for a Bushcraft on a budget class. The pack is budget but not the contents

That's a waist pack.

@buckeyebushcraft

Жыл бұрын

You’re only the 10th comment that’s said that. Does it really matter??

@gijr2003

Жыл бұрын

@@buckeyebushcraft Yes, because the title is wrong. Anyone looking for waist pack vid will miss this. People will go online to order a butt pack and can't find that one. Misinformation is just wrong.

that's not a butt pack

i put my Butt Pack on the Botton of my Pack uses Molly on it .