子持ち既婚前科あり喫煙者29歳180cmの子供好きな医者(絵は下手)って情報量多すぎない???

@user-im9mp8fg4l

Жыл бұрын

シドウさん絵下手なんだw

@user-im9mp8fg4l

Жыл бұрын

@@helloex-6767 尋問紙に描いてたんですね！？ 情報ありがとうございます😭見てきます！！

@rerve_draw

Жыл бұрын

女オタクが好きな属性全部詰まってる上に、トリアージで子持ちだったという事実で殴ってくる鬼畜運営だいすき

@YU-yl9lr

11 ай бұрын

前科はなくない？ 分からんけど、他のコメにあるように殺人が臓器移植なら、法律的には問題ない気がする…

@mitan10ekaki

8 ай бұрын

​@@YU-yl9lrもしかしたら臓器を移植して治そうとしていた奥さんと子供の死の原因は、シドウさんが何らかの事故を起こしてしまったからなのかもしれませんね。

エスくんがドラマパートで言ってた通り、「脳死状態の臓器提供」（シドウさんは半分合ってると言った）だと仮定する。 シドウさんは医者で最初の頃は深く考えず痛みを理解せず脳死患者の家族などに臓器提供の提案などをしていたが、不運にも自分の家族(1:46)が脳死状態になり、今まで自分のしてきたことや言ってきたことの重さに気づき罰をほしがっている・・・のだと思う。 シドウさんは、守るべき命が目の前にあるのならすぐ救いたいと思う人なのだとわかった。少なくとも、自分の意義のために誰かを救ってるわけじゃないと思う、誰かが傷つくことを喜んでもいない。 （ほら必要さ　俺は必要だから）→自分に言い聞かせている感じ。つまり、逆のことを思っていて自分で宥めている。私達に対してのものでは無い気がする。 赦されたいと赦されたくない気持ちがせめぎあってて、歌詞も矛盾するところがたくさんある。だけどそれが人の感情だ。 シドウさんが前を向いて生きることができるようにするにはどうすればいいか・・・・・・・・裁判って本来はそういう目的だよね。誰もが前を向けるように判決するものだ。 臓器移植で救われた患者さんや家族の声を聞いたことはあるのかなシドウさんは。いままで自分がしてきたことをちゃんとマイナス面だけじゃなく全部！本当に全部認識してほしい。 赦すか赦さないかを決める前にシドウさんや他の囚人ともっと向き合わなきゃいけないと激重感情が湧いてきた。ここまで書いてる時点で激重だけど。 それはそうと歌も曲もとても好き！！！！！！咳払い！！！すべて好き！！！！！ 【追記】基本情報。脳死は完全に脳の機能が停止していて呼吸も機械を繋いでいないと出来ず、回復の可能性がない状態。 植物状態は、自力で呼吸が出来、心臓も動いていて回復の可能性がある状態。 シドウさんに起こった考えうる一番悲しいことを書きます。当たらないことを祈る。 まず人物から。夫婦ならシドウさんと女性は血はつながっていないはずなので同じようなほくろを描かないだろうと推測。姉と弟だと仮定。 シドウさんの姉と子どもたちは大事故に会い３人共重症。結果的に姉が植物状態になる。子どもたちは脳死状態。 助かる可能性がある姉を延命させるために、助かる可能性のない弟たちの臓器を移植。（トリアージ） スローダウンでの植物人間は、もうそのままの意味だった。おとなの大きさなので姉かと思った。ドラマパートで「エスくんのような子供に赦さないと言われるほうが自分に似合いの終わり方だ」と言っているので子供の方を犠牲にしたと考える。患者さんのものも集めていたでしょう。。。でも結局、植物人間は倒れてしまった。 英文コメントの一部を読んでわかったけど、0:31の場所は、コランバリウム（Columbarium）というものに似ている。日本名で言うと納骨棚、骨壷を安置する共同墓地のようなものらしい。 その墓地の扉を開いた先にあの家族がいる。あの家族の暖かな団らんは、死の先にあるものだとシドウさんが妄想しているのかもしれない。そこに、行きたがっている。 【追記】2023.6.1　 Twitterの尋問から既婚者だと確定しました！！！！！わあああああメタ推理した自分が恥ずかしい！！！

@25113

9 ай бұрын

既婚者だとしても、割とこの説は成り立つかもしれない。人によってはだけど、残酷度が増してる感じで… 「姉」として考察されていた部分を「妻」にすると、妻の為に我が子の臓器を移植したっていうことになる…かも😨

@user-uq2fv3hz5x

7 ай бұрын

アンダーカバーでシドウが映るところで騙される方か騙す方かって歌詞だったあたり回復の見込みのある患者も脳死として臓器移植に使ったとかじゃね

@user-qb6hg3xq1r

7 ай бұрын

うううjっkんじゅうj

@user-im1sx4hx9y

5 ай бұрын

だから第1審の植物のような人間が出てきたのか…妻の為にわが子をか…残酷すぎる考察だけどあってそうなのが余計残酷

@clock1096

3 ай бұрын

1:46 このコメント見てから子供に識別表を手渡すシーンを見つけて鳥肌たった、、 どの辺りかは忘れたけどボイスドラマ娘についての言及があったから無難に奥さんと子供達って解釈が正解かも

Shidou saying "I'm indispensable because there are lives that need safeguarding." His Voice Drama made his motives crystal clear. He wants to be voted Guilty but as long as there's justice that needs to be served. There are people in pain. He will safeguard those lives. The irony of wanting to be guilty but you are the only reason why some prisoners are alive. He's also dropping some mad foreshadowing here that to make amends he will take care of the fang (KOTOKO).

@akatopus

Жыл бұрын

He understand that his presence is useful for others, so instead of always being stuck in the past, he decides to help now and in the future ((btw did you know where I can read the eng trans of the VD?))

@senritsujumpsuit6021

Жыл бұрын

@@akatopus some of them are put into video form on these channels a c Lie VI

@kittyythecat

Жыл бұрын

It's just ironic to me that the characters that want to be voted as guilty are the least dangerous (or at least more caring like Yuno) than the characters who see themselves as "innocent" such as Muu. Both see themselves as "wrong, guilty" when they are totally redeemable. Edit: I realized I worded it wrong.

@senritsujumpsuit6021

Жыл бұрын

@@kittyythecat Yuno is not evil but Abortion is BS none of us would exist if we where aborted because someone decided adoption was to hard

@StrawberryHerring

Жыл бұрын

​@@kittyythecat I'd disagree on the Yuno part, since she isn't really dangerous, and she actually used her innocent verdict privileges to get Mahiru a wheelchair, but yes, the ones wanting to be voted guilty really seems to be mellower than the ones wanting the innocent verdict.

シドウを赦さないことによるミルグラムへの影響も考えないといけないの面白過ぎる

I'm just going to go the simple (and likely incorrect) route and theorize that because Shidou being voted innocent allowed him to save the lives of two people, Shidou just accepts that a doctor as morally corrupt as himself is still needed/indespensable So he just goes "Screw it, I'm a terrible person, but yall seem to need me to stick around, so I guess I'll stick around"

@Lil-y-pad

Жыл бұрын

No, I agree with you there. Sometimes the simpler answer is the correct one. From the video and the lyrics, it really does convey that message quite clearly, imo. I think he's found a new reason to live and make things better, even if he's still unsure about it.

@Mycorrhiza

Жыл бұрын

seems to be the most accurate tbh

@guywhosellsweedatthegassta2293

Жыл бұрын

Sums up everything to be honest

@soleilpeik

Жыл бұрын

aaand you are correct! I think

@savstinks6847

Жыл бұрын

big agree

Triage seems to be a song about Shidou coming to terms with our innocent verdict. He's working through what happened in the past; basically, he's showing us why he wanted to be voted guilty and why he wanted to die in the first place. Shidou seems to have had a wife and kids, but they ended up dying. Connecting this to what we saw in Throwdown, I suspect that something happened where his kids died instantly, but his wife was in a state where she still could, hypothetically, survive. My best bet would be car accident, but that isn't really based off of much (though the fact that he's walking with what looks like groceries in the opening shots might imply that someone else (his wife) has the car). I think that him at the beginning is him on that day, and the phone call is a phone call he receives from the hospital telling him what happened. He answers calmly (during the "Kirisaki desu" part) because he works at the hospital, so it doesn't seem urgent. Still, you can hear the line die at 1:57 while one version of him lies at a hospital bed in grief. I think this is when he showed up to the hospital and had to actually process reality for the first time. Shidou's kids died immediately, but in order to cope with the grief, Shidou begins to focus entirely on saving his wife. He does anything possible, taking on lots of surgeries (the promise cards are the receipts from the surgeries that we saw falling in Throwdown) and, likely, harvesting organs (his "incessant taking," as noted in the lyrics) and trying to defy death in order to save the only family he has left. This makes his radical shift at the end of Throwdown going into Milgram make even *more* sense. When he fails to save his life, he has to confront everything he's lost, including his kids. He no longer has anything to live for, so he asks to die. Still, we voted him innocent despite him requesting a guilty verdict. The first trial, he showed us the worst parts of his crime, all the death and pain he caused (he even showed us him telling the grieving families of the loved ones they lost) in order to try to fully prove that he was evil and deserved a guilty verdict. Now, though, he shows us the things he lost, his motivation, in full. He doesn't want to be voted guilty anymore. Why? Well, as he basically already said, it's Kotoko. She's hurting the other prisoners, and now, in the Milgram prison, he's the only one who's keeping them alive. The lyrics mention him removing a "fang"--the exact word Kotoko uses for her "services" to Es. Throughout the song, you can see him slowly coming to terms with the verdict, shifting from calling an innocent verdict "punishment" and "retribution" to calling it his way to make amends. I'd definitely vote Shidou innocent again. As he says, he is pretty indispensable towards keeping other prisoners alive, and honestly, I want him to find a will to live again and move on. Obviously, he's done a lot of horrible things, and I'm still not sure if I forgive him at the end of the day, but I think voting him guilty now would be dangerous horribly unproductive. Amane won't like it, but she'll have to deal; we'll get to her when we get there.

@aureus3234

Жыл бұрын

Your theory makes the most sense. Shidou can be voted innocent here, but he should most definitely not be a doctor again but im not sure if Shidou would do that. It is very difficult to trust him on "safeguarding" others as a "doctor" especially on what he has done.

@serokery8819

Жыл бұрын

Now he won't hesitate to extract that "fang"

@Mycorrhiza

Жыл бұрын

Amane won't do anything, unlike kotoko, she's powerless

@candescence

Жыл бұрын

I find it this MV so refreshing for how he straight up just asks to be voted forgiven and lays out his reasons why. agree with what you said here. I don't think we have the right to forgive him but the best thing to do here both in terms of medical help and in terms of his character growth seems to be to continue forgiving. fickleness like taking forgiveness back now would do dramatic things to his tentatively restoring sense of identity and purpose kdksksksk

@ennuidaze

Жыл бұрын

This is the most comprehensive explanation for both trial one and two, thank you! Shidou’s story always confused me so this was very helpful!

※トリアージとは日本では主に災害時に重症者や治療緊急度に応じた「傷病者の振り分け」 またこの振り分けは色でされており優先順位が高い順に赤、黄、緑、黒 ボイスドラマでのことを考慮すると 既に他の人もコメ欄で言っている通り私は ある日シドウの奥さんと子供は脳死もしくは心臓が停止するほどの大事故にあってしまう 医師にはいままでシドウがそうしていたようにドナーとなることを進められる ということがシドウにあったのだと思う 0:04　破り捨てた約束のカード →シドウの仕事や考えに賛成な(奥さんと子供が書いた)臓器提供意思表示カード 0:43　赤を巻きつけてくれ →最初これの意味がわからずミルグラムのサイトのjudgeのページで赦されなかった囚人の目が赤になっていたりすることから 赦されない=赤 として 赤を巻きつけてくれ=赦すな ということだと思っていたが曲名の「トリアージ」と関連づけると 赤=最優先される病(傷)状の患者 ととらえることができる (シドウの家族はもう助からない、1番優先順位が低い「黒」に位置している) つまり 赤を巻きつけてくれ →怪我をした奥さん、子供(本当は黒の位置にいる)を赤(最優先患者)として扱ってくれ、家族を助けて！ というとらえかたもあると思った ただ 1:32　痛いよって呻いてる声に出来ることあるのなら使命と呼ばせてよ この歌詞からシドウも最初は積極的にとはいかなくとも 生前の3人の思いもあり 3人がドナーとなることに賛成だったのではないかと思う ここで一旦スローダウンの話になるのだが スローダウンのMVの最後のシーン 花人形が起き上がってシドウは喜んでいるようにみえる その後花人形が倒れ、花が飛び散りシドウの表情も変わる つまりシドウも一度は家族は違う患者さんの中で生きる 的なことも考えられていたが その患者が死んでしまい家族がドナーとなったのにその患者も助からず シドウは臓器移植について以前と違う考えを持つようになったのではないか また15歳未満の者は本人に拒否の意思が無く保護者の同意がある場合にドナーになれるらしい つまり子供が臓器提供する場合にはシドウが臓器提供してもよいという意思を示さなくてはならない ↑脳死だった場合まだ完全に死んだとは言えない子供に対して シドウはこれが原因で自分はヒトゴロシだと思うようになったのではないか っていう考察的なやつです 間違ってるとことかあったら指摘おなしゃす とりあえず二審は囚人達が死なないようにあとできればボロが出てくれるように判決したい あと二審の画質どうした！？ めっちゃスルスル動くしありがとうございます！！ 二審も最高です！！

@user-ou5pd8xl4n

Жыл бұрын

スゴすぎる、、もっと伸びてこのコメント、、、

@user-lu1xh3qc2z

3 ай бұрын

奥さんと子供2人が黒いリボンを体のどこかしらにつけてるのはトリアージで黒と判定されてるからか！

LIVEで見た人たちのチャット欄、歌とかMVを差し置いてシドウさんが既婚で子持ちだったことに衝撃を受けすぎて「NOOO」「OMG」っていうコメントが沢山あるの面白いな 個人的にも衝撃だったし、今回もクオリティ高くて最高だった…

@yoiyo1

Жыл бұрын

それなです.....！まさかパパだったとは.....

@user-fn3ic7sb2s

Жыл бұрын

見てみたかった😮

@user-im9mp8fg4l

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fn3ic7sb2s 今も見れますよ〜

@helloex-6767

Жыл бұрын

私も同じ反応していたので仲間がいてくれて嬉しい…… でもこの家族幸せだから幸せならOKです＿＿＿＿！ 後奥さん美人で可愛い－ショタ息子可愛い－過去のシドウさん相変わらずえっちぃめっちゃくっちゃ幸せそうでグッジョブ

My boy looks about 30 years younger here.

@ENJKI

Жыл бұрын

Bro is a foetus

@cynthiaatallah5054

Жыл бұрын

IKR!! i hope its not because they changed the artist but just a "turn back in time" scene

@vassagoluciferin

Жыл бұрын

​@@cynthiaatallah5054 I've checked the description, they did change the character designer/key animator D,: (it was akka before, now it's "bk")

@cynthiaatallah5054

Жыл бұрын

@@vassagoluciferin Ahhhh makess sense🤧sad😭. But in the MV he was still pretty in his angsty scenes with his hair down tho. But i will still miss the old sexy look🥺

@ENJKI

Жыл бұрын

@@vassagoluciferin NO I HOPE IT’S ONLY FOR THIS MV FRL FRL 😭 I miss Akka so bad

“死んで一緒に逝く”考えに、赦されたことで “生きて償う”という選択肢が加わって“生きたい”という気持ちが芽生えたけど、 その結果自分の医療技術と“フータ”と“マヒル”の安否は｢人質ごっこ｣｢俺次第｣になっちゃったんだな…………。 単に使命感持って助けたい人ってだけじゃなくて、シドウ自身自分が赦されるための手段ってわかってないとあの言葉は出てこないよね。 生きたいって気持ちの裏が家族のためなのか何のためなのかで第三審も変わってきそう。 でも、俺次第ってことはコトコの襲撃がなかったとしても二人の命は自分次第って意味…………？ どうとでもできる、の意志がチラチラ見えてめちゃくちゃ怖い。脅しにきてるじゃん。

@user-lu7rq3sr7b

10 ай бұрын

考えすぎかもしれないけど、「次も助けるとは限らない」ってメッセージだったりもするのかなとか思ったり…。 あと、「自分は必要だから」仮に襲撃されたりしたら自分を先に処置して、それで間に合わなくて救えなくなる命があるかも…とか考えてしまいましたね…。

My Japanese is by all means far from perfect, and I haven't had a chance to listen to it in full yet, but from what I can gather, Shidou's voice drama makes things much clearer in regards to what he did. Shidou was a doctor with clear convictions, one of which being that he firmly believed in transplanting organs from braindead patients with no chance of living to improve the chances of someone else. He'd always ask patients' relatives, "please, let me kill your relative to save someone you don't know!" and didn't think anything of it. Going from the MV, I assume that that conviction changed when it came to his own family. Someone in his own family became braindead, and faced with the choice of killing them to save someone else, his conviction overturned completely, and he now considers himself a murderer. There's a lot more nuance to this - they talk about legality and articles 103, 104 and 105 (which deal with indirect crimes such as destroying evidence to let a crime go unpunished), and I'm unsure if he killed patients without their families' consent (though that's my own running theory), or what exactly happened to his wife and children, but these are the broad strokes of his crimes, I believe. Edit: in terms of him saying he's indispensable, Shidou is in a lot of inner turmoil right mow because he still thinks what he did was abhorrent and he doesnt deserve to be forgiven, but he also sees that the nature of milgram is a danger to the other prisoners' lives and without him people *will* die. He starts the drama off by listing Fuuta and Mahiru's injuries and...it's a lot.

@squidge4728

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this!!

@anna.owo.

Жыл бұрын

A great analysis

@caeiou6217

Жыл бұрын

wow, what a though and painful decision for his soul, thank you for this analysis

@catfall6997

Жыл бұрын

yeah the new voice drama make me think he is innocent. He is not giving out misinformation to his patient's family but just convincing then to terminate treatment. He didn't force them to make the choice by suggesting it. personally I would consider brain bead as dead. But their is space for debate thou. I would definitely vote him innocent now.

@ink_prince

Жыл бұрын

That sheds a lot of light on things, thank you!

The community: “You can’t find anyone as beautiful as Shidou.” 0:47 Shidou’s Wife: “Allow me to introduce myself.”

@Itoshi_sibs

Жыл бұрын

His wife is so unbelievably beautiful !? LIKE WHOA-

@kiv9880

11 ай бұрын

She's so pretty and seems so kind i want to know more about her, my guy Shidou definatelly got lucky with love while it lasted

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

11 ай бұрын

@@kiv9880 Me too. And he said in his interrogation question that they were together since his second year of middle school. They seemed to be a wonderful match. It’s so sad.

@kiv9880

11 ай бұрын

@@genericyoutubecommentchann7418 Damn a school sweethearts couple that's so cute what a sad thing this came to the ending it did, definately makes me understand his motives more knowing that

@turritopsis_said80

9 ай бұрын

Does anyone here can see how she kinda looks like Aris, but an adult from Blue Archive?

I think he’s smiling because of his realization that being voted innocent actually helped him to save lives (Mahiru specifically, but he at least treated Fuuta) and he’s maybe being given a purpose again. I’d like to think based off of everything he’s said so far and how he acted while Es slept (based on the First Trial Report) that he’s not harboring some psychotic inner-ego like people are hypothesizing. Then again, he is proven to hold it together well under pressure (proven just by the fact that he’s a surgeon … lol) so I’m hoping this calm & agreeable demeanor isn’t just a facade that the lyrics will flip on its head. It was already mentioned in the First Trial Report that Amane has it out for him right now and he could very well be in danger should the votes give her the upper hand, so I’m personally rooting for his innocence. I’m also grateful he saved Mahiru, and I hope he’ll still be able to help people if shit hits the fan during the Second Trial Report as well.

@Alyssaromantic

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I honestly think this might just be him starting to get better, which I'm really happy about. It's not perfect, he still hates himself, but he doesn't want to die.

@Mycorrhiza

Жыл бұрын

Amane?? The 12 year old?? What can she do man

@dARKaZURE

Жыл бұрын

​@@Mycorrhiza I mean, she batted her friend to death after getting punished by the cult, and seeing Kotoko getting lots of weapons by simply asking from Milgram, I'm sure Amane has her way to deal with Shidou.

@Yowl9999

Жыл бұрын

@@Mycorrhiza You never know. Not like this is real life 🤷. Jackalope said she has it out for him and he could be in trouble if the circumstances are right. It’ll be kinda hard for him to defend himself if he’s physically restrained, she’s not, she’s insane, and she’s convinced he’s the antichrist. I’d rather play it safe.

@Yowl9999

Жыл бұрын

Well. I’m here after the MV drop and … Well. I am depressed now. Awesome.

Based on his description, it looks like Shidou has changed his mind about wanting to be voted guilty (assuming it's him who's saying that). I have a few thoughts on that. I believe that after his verdict, Shidou is shocked at Es' judgement but chalks it down to being a 'punishment', since he explicitly stated that he wanted the death penalty. Shidou considered himself 'indispensable' because he's the only doctor out of the prisoners. By treating Mahiru and Fuuta, Shidou gained a 'reason' to live. However, it went extreme (as Milgram usually does) and now Shidou feels obliged to live since he considers himself indispensable to the prisoners (Almost as if that is the only reason he is alive). That is in accordance to the lyrics of Triage, "I have no right to die." Perhaps the reason for the extreme wording (indispensable implies that he is absolutely necessary) is because holding control of the health and life of a few prisoners incited (or possibly worsened) a god complex within Shidou. I'm more convinced that Shidou's mental state is terrible actually and he believes his only 'value' is to provide treatment to the prisoners. What is more plausible? God complex Shidou or zero self esteem Shidou? It's amazing how a single line can provide so much insight. Previously, I was interested in Shidou's crime. Now I'm more interested in learning about his reaction to his verdict and the state of his mental health. It also seems that people are divided between two major theories of Shidou's crime, organ harvesting and saving a loved one. Seeing this, I can't help but feel that the cutting of flowers in Throw Down was bait instead of a clue, and it actually represents something more obscure than organ harvesting. Also, the art looks lovely. I can't wait^^ I just hope my exam goes well...

@nocturne_interlude

Жыл бұрын

I'm opting for the Zero self-esteem one...But I'll say both, somehow. Like, people can have zero self esteem AND a God complex at the same time, as absurd as it sounds. Btw any prisonners words things in extreme way for very simple reasons : They're traumatized for most of them, by their crimes or by what leads to it, and are constantly exposed to it, so they can't take a step back from their situation and starts thinking clearly. Oh, and they hear voices in their heads since months or even years, who kept approving or bashing them. I think it would influence most people in a wrong way... (Except Yuno and Kazui who don't seem to care much of what we are saying)

@ediciusreverse5584

Жыл бұрын

I kind of wonder if he’s making a jab towards us as the warden. Like a “So because I can heal, you will prolong my life? Go ahead. Do what you want. You’re the warden anyways and don’t care what the prisoners have to say.” Sort of thing. A more interesting scenario would be he realizes this is something he can exploit, and that he’s goading us into continuing to vote him innocent, but that’s kind of out of character, so probably not-

@Deity_Seifina

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with your exams! I agree so so much with this! The zero self esteem Shidou is what I agree with the most. Also, organ harvesting doesn't make the most sense. I remember a comment on Throw Down from someone who's dad is actually a surgeon and that every surgery requires more than one person. I think the loved one he saved was the only person to ever see value within him. With them gone he lost his value essentially, and we managed to restore some of it! Now he wishes his life to be prolonged. Honestly I'm somewhat happy for him in a weird way lmao

@aureus3234

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking it's a god-complex. I've been saying it for a while now. I don't have specific evidence or signs that it might be a god-complex... Let's just say... Intuition? It's the same situation as Mu... we most probably have not seen the whole story or is seeing thing's on Shidou's own perspective.. so I'll follow my gut for now.

@honhonhhyee1137

Жыл бұрын

Im going for zero self esteem here like other commenters. The description comes off to me as a sarcastic jab more than anything, towards the views of some voters who believe he needs to be kept innocent due to his role as a doctor. Given the whole "hearing voices" thing with the cast and how other songs have almost talked to the voters before(looking at Mu referencing her own song) it is possible. I feel like people zeroing on the description are forgetting a bit about his other lyrics like "I am disgusted" "Forgive me?" "I have no right to die" and such. I cant see anyone with a god complex have such complicated feelings about his own life. And Good Luck on your exam!

エスのアンダーカバーで、シドウのパートは「アンダー どちらを選ぶんだ 騙されるほうか騙すほうか」なんやけど、シドウだけ本人とまだリンクしてない気がする……。なにか騙されてるんか

生きて償え派とちゃんと苦しんで欲しい派が息してなさそうなレベルで重いな…

「ほら延命を　俺は必要だから」 こんな言葉言われたら尊すぎて倒れる

｢赦さないでくれ｣から｢赦してほしい｣に変わりつつあるのなんかすごい(語彙力)

@user-rs4gm9ui6s

Жыл бұрын

赦さないでほしいけど誰かに赦してほしい。 この気持ちって背中合わせだと思います。 永遠に罰を受けたい自分と 「もういいんだよ」って赦されたい自分。 矛盾が同居するから余計に苦しむんです。

@user-gv7ui7ee8c

Жыл бұрын

自分たちの投票で感情が揺れてたりするのが楽曲に反映されてると本当に一人の人間なんだなと思うのと一票が重く感じますよね

@Crysceil

Жыл бұрын

@@user-rs4gm9ui6s the

@helloex-6767

Жыл бұрын

囚人無差別襲撃事件が起きてからシドウさんの心が変わったんだろうね…でもまだ自分の心の中には赦さないでほしいという願望はあるだろうな…

he found me crying😭 he crew too😭 we both crode 😭😭😢💧

took 9 months to reach 1 mil congrats on your pregnancy shidou

@faeryofvenus

5 ай бұрын

GIGGLED

@reigensfeet

5 ай бұрын

i got him pregnant guys it was me

@SiSoz

5 ай бұрын

Aren't his kids dead tho- *gets bonked*

神々しいシドウさん好きだ この顔に｢不快です｣｢気持ち悪いです｣って言われるの悦……

家族を救うために頑張った結果、多くの命を犠牲にしても結局救えなくて、たくさんの命を奪った罪悪感抱いて赦されてるのが辛すぎるから赦さないを選びたいんだけど、赦さなかったとしても囚人の救護ができなくなったらシドウさんの存在意義とか医者になってよかったっていう気持ちの拠り所もなくしてしまうわけだから本当に辛い。どう転んでもなんか救えなさそうなのが辛い 第二審赦さなかったとして、コトコちゃんも赦さなければ襲撃が動くことはないから一番それがいい選択肢だと思うな、、でもこれからどんどん囚人間での刃傷沙汰が絶えなくなるだろうし、シドウさんが医療行為によって気持ちが上がるなら本当にそれがいいし、シドウさん的にはそれだけじゃなくて「赦されたい」っていう純粋な気持ちも芽生えてるから赦したいな、本当に… ただ赦したら赦したで、「絶対に俺がいなきゃダメだ」ってなって第3審調子のって最終的に赦されなくなるような曲になるのだけは嫌だな、どちらにせよミルグラムの中で最初から自分の罪を背負ってるタイプだなって思う。ボイストレーラーの「邪魔だ、さっさと死ね」は鳥肌たったし、赦したくないなって最初は思ったんだけど、MV見ると赦したくなったの不思議すぎる…これがミルグラムマジック？？()

It's worth checking out the voice drama. It clears up a lot of things. Rather than harvesting, Shidou was transplanting organs. Shidou was a surgeon most probably specialising in transplant (if that's a thing). He informed the families of brain dead patients about the patients' medical status and then requested if their organs could be donated to save other lives. Shidou never understood the weight of these words till it was his own family that was the patients. Shidou especially mentions his wife in previous instances (in the trailer, Shidou said, "She's not dead..." or something along those lines.) I assume his family were victims of an accident, in which Mrs Kirisaki was brain dead and their sons were killed. Since there was still hope that Mrs Kirisaki could survive, Shidou didn't give up yet. However, the doctor requested Shidou, the only living family of Mrs Kirisaki, if they could lay her to rest and transplant her organs for those who had more chance of surviving (the wording is a bit harsh ;-; I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to phrase this). This is when Shidou realised how bad these words that he used to say regularly were. From Shidou's perspective, they were basically asking to kill her so someone else could live. And he used to request this of so many families in the past. That's when the guilt kicked in, and it was only amplified by the loss of his family. I remember seeing the guilt theory on Throw Down, but it seemed too tame back then. Now that it's given more depth and backed up by the voice drama, it's extremely plausible. This is my take on this^^ I'm going to analyse Throw Down through this perspective, since it has much more symbolism and clues than Triage. RIP Mrs Kirisaki and her two gorgeous children.

@tealeavees

Жыл бұрын

I think this is the theory I’m leaning towards as well 🤔

@Ani_Summer

Жыл бұрын

This is definitely a theory I agree with because I’m not even sure how he’d be able to harvest the organs without raising suspicions 🤔

@deardaezie

Жыл бұрын

this does make a lot of sense. so the flowers in throw down weren't him transplanting organs into his wife, but her organs being taken for transplantation by other doctors

@chaneychane9339

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much this makes the backstory clearer!

@_callahan613

Жыл бұрын

Just throwin it out there, they could make the whole thing REALLY tragic and have the Mrs. be braindead, one son dead, and the other needing transplants for a chance to live... So he had a dead son, a son needing organs for any chance to live, and a braindead wife who had organs that *PROBABLY* matched her son's... Dude may have had to say "my son is dead, kill my wife, and try to save my son through her death", and the living son could have still died after the transplants. That would DEFINITELY break a man, completely and utterly. Just signing off on pulling the plug to help others would suck, but it does happen quite a lot in reality, and it doesn't necessarily break people like Shidou broke. It not working and him losing his whole family from it failing would break someone, though.

最後まで生きてくれ、あなたが好きになった、お願いだから死なないで..

色々言いたいことはあるけどとりあえず顔が良い。

@YuukiTakanasi

Жыл бұрын

ほんとにマジで顔がいい………

@oo-dd1cx

Жыл бұрын

一家揃って顔が良い

@user-yu9fj9qr2e

17 күн бұрын

奥さん？も美人だし、二人の子供ってすごい美形なんじゃ,,,

I don't know how much this adds to the theory BUT uncomfortably neat theory: Shidou lived in Ecuador with his family? The house that Shidou lives in looks uncomfortably similar to the general cemetery of Guayaquil, Ecuador [Patrimonial Cemetery Of The Charity Board Of Guayaquil (General Cemetery)]. The boxes seen at 0:31, 0:40, and 2:06 are similar to the tombs in the cemetery that are built into the walls on the outside of the buildings. While can also be interpreted as many other things like cardboard file boxes, let's call them tombs for this theory. For certain sections of this cemetery, for lack of land, there is an option to cremate someone and have their ashes in these boxes and have the tombstone be dedicated to them. These tombs are built on the outside of the buildings so they are often made out of white marble, porcelain, and stone to withstand the weather, which has given it the name "the white city". This large cemetery is very distinct from it's surroundings as it is blinding white and is right behind the hospital. The gates and arches at 0:28 and 1:21 are eerily similar to the some of the gates into the cemetery as well. The plant life in 0:40 is also eerily similar to the plant life maintained within the cemetery, especially the thriving palm trees which implicate a tropical location like Ecuador. Their clothes are also very typical tropical clothes: bandanas, shorts, sandals, thin light tops, sundresses. The food and produce they have (Pomegranates, avocados, oranges, and lobster 0:38) is also very common to Ecuador. While lobster is not particularly common, seafood is very abundant and cheaper in Ecuador due to being on the coast, leading it to be more economical for a lot of families than meat. Theory for this theory: Potentially the door into his house can be seen as the doorway between life and death, not in terms of him dying but just as him visiting the death. Him being surrounded by the tombs can be representative of the work he does to save his family. The home representing shelter, a safe place, and the fact the house is built with the tombs of dead people can be symbolic of his work to resurrect his family using the bodies of other people.

@tyreesjameswilliams35

Жыл бұрын

Woah that's quite the detail though-out explanation, and fairly decent one at that too.

After seeing how the events of the first trial fucked everyone up so much, it's nice to see that we at least got one person right. Voting Shidou innocent was probably the best thing we could've done for him. Now, he has a reason to live.

@verycloverz

10 ай бұрын

Yeah!!! We are totally aren't giving him SAVIOR COMPLEX 😁👍/s

@analyticaltomato

10 ай бұрын

Why does everyone think the first voting results were wrong?? Like, if you believed what you voted at the time, you were right! Just because people got hurt doesn’t mean the votes were wrong. You’re not voting to get them all saved, you’re voting depending on your personal preferences, and whether you think they were right, justified or forgiveable in their actions. For example, I would have voted Shidou guilty in the first trial (I say “would have” as I was not aware of milgram at the time) because to me harvesting organs from people without their consent (or trying to kill them faster to get said organs, which seems to be what he was doing) is unforgivable regardless of the motivation. Am I happy he’s okay? Yeah, but I don’t think my decision to vote him guilty would have been wrong. My morals are mine, and yours are yours, but don’t try to sell your morals as better just because it results in more people being innocent.

This man used to be happy when he wore crocks, now after his family disappeared (???) he can't wear crocks, this shows how much pressure he's under that even his clothing style changed

@senritsujumpsuit6021

Жыл бұрын

I fear the fanart now

@liocchi0768

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

コメント欄見てたら「油絵みたい」ってコメントがあって柘榴が気になったから　柘榴　絵　意味で調べたら「死と生」「輪廻」んで「女性が右手に持ってたら妊娠」ってあって逆あるのかなって思ったら「左手や足元にあるのは死の暗示」って書いてあって柘榴のところ全部見たらシドウさん1:10で左手で柘榴出してるんよね...それで0:30のところシドウさんが歩いた後花が全部枯れるんだけど　花が枯れるのって「悪いものから守る、身代わりになる」って意味らしい　タイトルのトリアージも「事故で患者が多数出てきた時の優先順」らしいんだけど　これもしかして事故かなんかで家族3人とも昏睡状態になってそれでドナーを無理に作ってたってことかな

@kitsunearashi1391

5 ай бұрын

😊😊😊

概要欄に書いてある ｢俺は必要だから」が赦された事によって失望気味だったけど 例の襲撃事件が起きてから自分の治療が必要＋更に自分の負担が掛かってしまい遂に死ぬことさえ 出来なくなってしまい ｢死刑にしてください」とまで 言えなくなってしまって ｢俺がいないと彼等の命を守れない」って自分を追い詰める様な言い方していたから この発言でさえ…余計プレッシャーをかけられてんのがな…辛い しかも第二審でのトレーラー曲で考察コメ見たけど 今回は赦さないに選ばれる率は高いとか言われていたから胸が苦しい… シドウさんとまたちゃんと向き合えるよう頑張ります… 𓂃❁⃘𓈒𓏸追記❁⃘*.ﾟ シドウさん…っあっ貴方まさかの人妻でありながら息子二人持ちやったんか…どうりでエスくんやアマネちゃんの子供が好きなわけやな… 尚この二人に嫌われている模様(( 改めてトリアージの歌詞を認識したけど ｢いらないです 余計なお世話です」 ｢お望み通り 生きてあげますか」 ｢ほら必要さ 俺は必要だから」 ｢"人質ごっこ"なんて人聞き悪いな 俺次第なのにな」 の歌詞がドストレート＋なんかくっそエグイのといい意味で生々しい主張なのが シドウさんらしいっちゃシドウさんらしいけど…なんか自分自身と私達に対する不信感とか溢れ返ってんのが… しかもさ曲終わる前の ｢ほら延命を 俺は必要だから」が2回繰り返して言ってんの これ自分の死にたい欲求を押し殺してるよなぁ絶対… シドウさんの精神色々と大丈夫か…？

@user-md5sk4wi4c

Жыл бұрын

本当にその通りです…胸が苦しくなります でもまだ赦されないと決まったわけじゃないので…！！ね……

@helloex-6767

Жыл бұрын

@@user-md5sk4wi4c 私もまだ途中でしか考察していませんが 何があろうと私はシドウさんを赦します このまま第二審でも赦してしまえば第三審でシドウさんの 心と身に何かありそうで正直 怖いし気になるけど もう赦さないでほしいとまで言われなくなったのと あれだけミルグラムに賛成していたのにも関わらず 今ではミルグラムに対する憎悪感と嫌悪感が増しているんですよね… 先程第二審のシドウさんのボイドラを聞きましたが 胸がはち切れそうになったし 終盤ら辺から苦しそうに泣くのを 堪える声がしんどすぎてヤバかったです…… 自分でもどうしていいか分からなくて今の自分と向き合えずにいわれないんだなと思いました なんかもう…ホントミルグラムの中でめっちゃ可哀想＆悲惨やなと 感じる囚人です… シドウさん推しの私も今情緒不安定状態です誰か助けて(((

@user-ni9gb1zt4f

Жыл бұрын

シドウさんは元から精神アカンけど医者いないとここですぐ死にそうなのいっぱいだから何とか生きてるって言い訳して生きてるって感じ……

シドウさんの内面考察したいのにマジでいまのミルグラムに必要すぎて頷くしかできないんだよなあ……

自分が赦されたことに対して『気持ち悪いです』って答えるのシドウらしくてホントに好き． イケメンの病み顔とか私得でしかない（

@helloex-6767

5 ай бұрын

イケメンの曇り顔は私の大好物だてぇてぇおっふ( ˆᴘˆ )

I really like Shidou's arc of wanting to live not for himself but to help others, and I also want to point out that voting him guilty can be dangerous to the other characters since he's the only person that can treat injuries. So yeah, easy innocent vote from me, it's a shame about the murders

@satansmascara9756

Жыл бұрын

Rip to the dead patients but he's built different

@airisnope4665

Жыл бұрын

But milgram is like a game with plot, main characters can't die. If it were as you say, mahiru already would be dead by now. Also I can easily predict that kotoko would be voted guilty

@Cm38271

Жыл бұрын

"Murders" I don't think he committed a crime. At least not in the eyes of the law

@muggyboi8667

Жыл бұрын

​@@airisnope4665 I wouldn't say all that, I think her being alive is a good transition because now we can see a more erratic breakdown from the fragile Mahiru that would be more intense and clear to what her crime was. Also dying after only the first trial cuts off any development at all because they never get their crime truly explained. If Mahiru died before trial 2 then she'd be a severely underdeveloped character and a huge missed opportunity.

@An_Slayraishi

Жыл бұрын

@@airisnope4665 I don’t remember if this is true or not but didn’t they say character death can happen for Milgram? Considering Harukas threat to kill himself if Muu got guilty…

2:25「そうだ」が「『スローダウン』」に聞こえる……！？意図的だとしたら流石すぎる

シドウさん、あのキャラで一人称「俺」なの堪らないですよね

@rerve_draw

Жыл бұрын

すごく分かります😂

@helloex-6767

4 ай бұрын

初見見た時は「あっめっちゃどタイプ」って程度だったのにボイトレ聞いてたら一人称が「俺」だと分かった瞬間更に好きになった 「私」とか「僕」で使いそうなのに「俺」だなんてっ…！！( ́ཫ`)

"トリアージ"とは災害時などで同時に多数の傷病者や負傷者が発生した場合、緊急度・重症度などに応じて傷病者の治療における優先順位をつけること。 トリアージタッグは4色あり、基本右手首に巻きつけられます。赤色が重症で最優先として緊急対応の処置(延命処置)を行います。黒色は1番優先度が低く、すでにお亡くなりになっているか、手遅れに等しいと判断された人に巻き付けられます。 歌詞の"赤を巻き付けてくれ"の一言だけで本来は黒を巻き付けられたであろうことが示唆されます。(もう会えやしないの歌詞) また"取り出したって"は脳死に対する臓器移植の示唆だと思われます。 "延命"に関してはトリアージである"赤を巻き付けて助けてもらうこと"を意味していると考えました。 このトリアージの知識を知ってるだけでゾッとする歌詞がすごすぎる。

第1審：罪を償う(誰かの後追いの可能性もあり)ために死を希望 第2審：罪を償う(誰かの命を救う)ために生を希望 ってことかな、ここまでの生活を経てシドウさんの「罪を償う」事の定義が変わって来ている気がする…第1審は誰かの後追い目的で死刑希望とか言ってたから内心その「誰か」以外は割とどうでも良いのかと思ってたけど(めっちゃ他の患者？を殺してたから)元の人の良さが出て今生きている人(囚人たち)を生かしたいって優しさが出てるように見える…… これはちょっと赦すが優勢だけどここで赦したらムウちゃんみたいなパターンにもなりそうだから迷う…… でもな〜シドウさんがいないと次のコトコちゃんの襲撃(怒)でロストが余裕で出そうなんだよな〜ロストして欲しくは無い……！！ まぁアマネちゃんがワンチャンガチで敵になりそうだけどエスくんに押さえつけられてたくらいだしシドウさんは襲撃受けても大丈夫でしょ…大丈夫だよな？

At 1:22 He tells us that even though he 100% acknowledges and wishes to be voted guilty in the first trial, he was voted innocent. With this, he was able to help the prisoners who needed medical attention at the end of the first trial. He then says something along the line of helping others is his new propuse. I don't think he wants forgiveness, but he understands that others can use his help when it comes to injuries. A couple of seconds later, he says something about getting rid of the "fang," which I'm going to assume is Kotoko. Kotoko really did just pissed off all the prisoners. This is just my observation and opinion on some lyrics that caught my attention

@Desiree-9

Жыл бұрын

I saw some people say that voting Shidou innocent means that he will go after Kotoko because of the "fang" comment. yes, I do agree. She will be defenseless if she is found guilty. But if you do hesitate with voting Shidou innocent because of this. She did pissed off most of the prisoners. It doesn't matter if you stop Shidou. What if Futa or someone else steps into action. My point is that you can't really make much of a difference in this case. I don't want any prisoners to die, not until the end of the trials. But I have a feeling Kotoko will be getting hurt. I just hope she won't be hurt too badly but just enough for the other to get their revenge.

@jayvee3165

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, IIRC on Kotoko's 2nd trial PV there's a line where she refers to herself as Es' fang

can milgram make an alternate universe au where shidou's family DIDNT pass and theyre all happy and healthy 😭

TRIAGE TO 1 MILLION BEFORE 2023 ENDS !!!!!

@nagumokys

6 ай бұрын

YEAH!!!!

@justanaverageperson2162

5 ай бұрын

:( didn)t happen

一審では「赦さないでくれ」って言ってて、多分生きる意味がなかったに近い心境だったんだろうけど、コトコの一件で自分は価値のある人間だと思い改めて、曲の最後では「生きたい」ってはっきり何度も言ってるの凄く良い。

happy new years shidou nation

@user-nj8sk1cs5i

5 ай бұрын

happy new year you too 💕

Wow, I didn't expect this. I thought that since they knew we would vote him innocent regardless due to him being a doctor, they would make him hateable. But instead, they showed his family, and showed his regrets, while also showing that he realized that his skills as a doctor are needed for the group. Absolutely incredible.

@FakeVenatus

Жыл бұрын

Lmao people barely voted him innocent because he’s a doctor- especially as a possible belief was he was a serial killer type character. People voted him innocent because he’s hot

@cblazerc

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus I meant vote him this time around because he is the only doctor in the group. I already knew that he only got voted innocent at first because people found him hot. I was saying what I said because of how so much of the community have been on the mission to keep everyone alive.

@keslio

Жыл бұрын

​@@FakeVenatus they voted him innocent because he said he wants to receive a guilty verdict. Voting him guilty will grant his wishes. In short the community is trying to be an asshole :3

@kaprix6436

10 ай бұрын

@@keslio nonono, both of you have points. he is hot, after all.

@cblazerc

9 ай бұрын

@@Mikotosmeowmeow now that's just disrespectful. I was commenting on how the dude lost his family, and how I felt bad for him, and you laughed. not cool man. not cool. I'm just gonna hope that you're on the younger side and haven't experienced what it's like to lose a loved one yet, cause this seemed more out of ignorance than malice.

I had a dream abt coming to the channel seeing triage deleted and seeing a vid titled “NEW SHIDOU LORE!” Which was just rlly confusing

@senritsujumpsuit6021

Жыл бұрын

am actually surprised no one makes clickbait videos on Milgram

very interesting how his wife has a beauty mark under both eyes. i forget exactly what it means, but i'm pretty sure it alludes to some sort of tragedy in your romantic life

16K VIEWS LEFT UNTIL 1M CMON SHIDOERS

@thechibilitwick7464

6 ай бұрын

so true user reigensfeet

@reigensfeet

6 ай бұрын

@@thechibilitwick7464 ♥💗

自分の行為が赦されないだろうと死刑が妥当だと思っていたら、外で起きた殺人について裁くミルグラムで殺人沙汰が起きてしまっていることでここでまたしても今ある命を救う為っていう過去の殺人と同じ理由で赦してほしいと思い始めてしまうシドウさんってなんか可哀想だと思ってしまった。

1M IT TOOK 9 MONTHS THIS IS PROOF THAT HE IS MOTHER

@Sssssshinshi

2 ай бұрын

ELYSIAUUR

ボールで全てを察してしまった シドウさんとマヒルさんの共通項は"愛"だけどシドウさんは家族愛でマヒルさんは恋愛なのとても綺麗な対比だなぁ

@matapineda_matapineda

Жыл бұрын

ハルユノは「子供」 フタムウは「いじめ」 シドマヒは「愛」 カズアマは「約束(まだ推測段階)」 ミココトは「殺人鬼」 と2人ずつテーマ？的な物があるのいいよね

@helloex-6767

Жыл бұрын

​@@matapineda_matapineda ちゃんと互いのテーマが別れてるのめちゃ凝っててイイよね

@LeoN-nh3ed

8 ай бұрын

@@matapineda_matapineda 新曲たち聴いてると、カズアマは「自己否定」とかも有り得そうですかね カズイは「生まれてこの方本心なんて言ったことない」って言ってて、アマネは幼少から教義に則った教育で自分の行動を否定されて「悪い子じゃだめだ」って思ったから現在があるような感じだし

0:30 ここ通り過ぎるとこ花枯れていってる、、 命を奪ってるってこと...?

シドウさん「死にたい」って思いが「生きたい」に変わったけどそれはミルグラムで死人がでないように「必要とされてるから」っていう感じて寧ろ「生きなければ」って死にたい思いを無理やり塗りつぶしてるかんじが最後の表情で表してるかんじかした。

he's a 10 but he stole your organs

WE'RE AT LESS THAN 50K VIEWS TO GO!!!!!!!! GO SHIDOU!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to regret my past self voting him innocent 😍 Edit: NO REGRETS. If you think he should be guilty, enlighten me why 💜

@Litchi_is_bored

Жыл бұрын

ikr 😍

@stereotypical_villain

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely yes, since all that are smiling mv's have been inno I'm curious as to how he would be since he harvested organs I was planning on voting him guilty (I F*CKED UP IGNORE THAT 🥲)

@beacentcor

Жыл бұрын

y'all didn't vote him innocent because he literally said 'please don't forgive me' so it could be like a punishment to him?

@voidofcreation2271

Жыл бұрын

@@beacentcor exactly they always say how selfish he is and he wants to be guilty so I thought voting him innocent would be a better punishment

@K3IQ

Жыл бұрын

Yessir 🙇

can we get shidou to 1m .

@niya_zints

6 ай бұрын

PLS WE NEED IT, THE SONG TRAILERS EVEN HAVE MIRE VIEWS THAN THIS

shidou how does it feel to not be in the 1m gang

0:55世界はこんなにも残酷で〜でシドウさんが子持ちなことを突きつけてきて残酷すぎる😄

I feel as though unlike mu and haruka, shidou actually feels genuine remorse towards his mistakes and wants to make it right and save people. He didn’t want to be forgiven but now that he is he wants to prove he’s worthy and valuable. I still see him as innocent.

@asagtavilia5852

Жыл бұрын

He is definitely not 'innocent', but i will choose to 'forgive' him if it means he can save others.

@madelinefendley2703

Жыл бұрын

@@asagtavilia5852 well none of them are innocent in that sense lol, that’s the whole point. By innocent I mean do we choose to look past it or do we hold it against them

@user-ts1kp5dj9q

Жыл бұрын

He is already seeing the innocent verdict as another form punishment, later in the MV it seems that hes trying to forgive himself by providing that he can saves lives, likes the ones who got beaten up by kotoko

@user-ts1kp5dj9q

Жыл бұрын

I hope a second time innocent will be the best course of action

前よりも生々しくシドウさんの感情を感じた気がしました…。 一審の曲から楽しませていただいてますが、とても好きです。

ボイスドラマ聞いたけどこれはヤバい、シドウ一気に好きになったわ

i like how he does a little "ahem" at the start

@aisyahmarzulkepli6768

Жыл бұрын

Omg I just heard that 😭

I cant believe Kazui got to 1mil before Shidou does.. Shidou enjoyers lets make this song reach 1mil views before 2023 ends!

@temutemacular

5 ай бұрын

💀

@rosanora

5 ай бұрын

YEAH MAN WE GOT THIS!!!!

Shidou went from "I want the death penalty, because I couldn't save my family", to "Living is a better punishment, so I'll be your doctor, since that's the job I need to do", Shidou broke, my guess is that if we vote him innocent he'll see himself as a tool, since that's what's keeping him alive. So my guess that in Trial 3 the choice will be: Show him it's worth living on in a world that only wants him for his profession, or Letting he be with his family

@user-ts1kp5dj9q

Жыл бұрын

Man, both sounds horrible even idk how to feel about that

I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS SONG IS GOING TO BE A SAD ONE, AND IM GONNA BE THROWING DOWN EVERYTHING IN MY ROOM

@iluVioletLink

Жыл бұрын

youre gonna be WHAT now???? kirisaki shidou reference?

@somethingclever4297

Жыл бұрын

You were correct😢

@soap984

Жыл бұрын

this song was absolutely devastating for shidou

@ashs.4949

Жыл бұрын

You were right 😔

@ImD3Star

Жыл бұрын

GOD DAMNIT, IM NOT CRYING! YOU ARE! 😭😭😭😭

the description…’so hey, prolong my life, i’m indispensable’ …why do i feel like that’s shidou’s partner talking to him?

@IzzyD.Anarchy

Жыл бұрын

He might be talking about himself but I'm not sure. I'm no fortuneteller

@justa_randomfailure6250

Жыл бұрын

it’d be really interesting it that we’re the case but I think it’s more likely he’s talking directly to us like how he saved mahiru last trial

@voidofcreation2271

Жыл бұрын

This is either him talking to us in which case voting him innocent changed his opinion on his murders or this is possibly his partner or maybe Patient he's killed talking to him showing again how selfish he is and how he wants to be guilty

@glass_shard

Жыл бұрын

I think he's talking about himself after he saved Mahiru and Fūta?

@morninggiory1130

Жыл бұрын

Since he is a doctor and help some of the prisoners, i believe he could just be talking about himself, saying that if he was gone, the prisoners would be dead

Since I never saw anyone translate the runes on the boxes at 0:29 they are: |A SAKI TAKAHASHI YUICHI KOBAYASHI MARI INOUE TAKAHIRO |DA RISA KANEKO IKUMI ISHIDA YOSHIKI TERADA AMI |DA HIRO AKANO KAORI MORI AKIKO GOTOU RYO It also interests me that at 2:08, you can identify that this is specifically Ishida Yoshiki's box, to the tune of "if this is my punishment" ("Kore ga batsunaraba"), so I wonder if this is someone important to the case.

日本語歌詞、英語歌詞、MV映像、ボイスドラマ内容を鑑みた個人的な解釈 CD購入時点 臓器移植を嫌がる脳死植物状態の患者家族へ説得をしていたシドウ。 助けたい存在の為に臓器を手に入れていた。 しかし家族が特別である事を刑法の観点にすら存在している点から確固たるものであると主張する。 だから罪深い自身の行動に大義なんてものは無いと考える。 赦さないでほしいはずだった。 罰してほしい気持ちはあるのに、自分が赦されないと判定されたら他の赦されなかった囚人を守れない。 必要な存在だから生きなければならない思いから赦されたいと願ってしまう。 生への執着からミルグラムへやっと参加できたと言える。 余談だがエスが"ボクたち"を一人称に使った。 集合精神(ユーザ)となりつつあるのだろう。 ドラマタイトルの「Aesculapius」からも現状の役割が分かる。 ギリシャ神話、薬方の神 死者すら蘇らせる医術の神 アスクレーピオス そして罪の内容も第一審のドラマタイトル「Molech」から想像していた範囲ではある。 古代の中東で崇拝された神 母親の涙と子供達の血に塗れた魔王 モレク 個人的には脳死していなかった者も殺して奪っていたらどうなるだろうかと思っていたが、改めてドラマを聴くと彼は心から人を救う仕事へ誇りを持っているからその線は無さそうだ。 死ぬ事で大切な者と同一存在へとなろうとして赦されない事を願っていたのかと考えたが、心底自身を赦せないから赦さないでほしいのだろう。 以前の考え方では赦せないから赦すを選択していたが、彼が赦されなくなったらミルグラムは壊滅する点から赦すを選びたい。 しかし赦さないパターンで第三審がどうなるのかも非常に興味がある。 どちらに転んでも自分は楽しもう。 MV公開後 シドウの性格からして子供が居たとしたら自分の死を望まないだろう。 なので大切な人、妻が生きていたとしたらの未来を見ていると思われる。 他の赦されない囚人を守る為に自分が必要だと言う主張は彼の性格から偽善でも独善でも、それを盾にとって赦されたいわけではないだろう。 罰してほしいのに赦されないと守れない事からの葛藤を感じる。 「破り捨てた約束のカードは」 「Those cards of promise I discarded」 第一審でも出てきている患者から奪った臓器のラベル、そしてそこまでするのなら救わなければと建てた誓いごと破り捨てたという意味だろう。 「俺が散々奪ってきた報いだったか」 「Where they retribution for my incessant taking」 彼らが私の絶え間ない服用に対する報復をする場所 自身を罰するに値する理由付けとして相違なく、遺族から復讐を受ける原因を自覚している。 「赤を巻きつけてくれ」 「I need to be tagged as RED」 赤としてタグ付けする必要があります 赦さないを選択してくれという願望の発露。 「赦すだなんて これが罰ならば」 「What do you mean INNOCENT, if this is my punishment」 これが私の罰なら、あなたは何を意味するのですか? ムウ以外の他囚人第二審同様に「赦す」を「INNOCENT」と表記している。 赦す事が彼への罰という考え方をした人の意見をも汲み取ってくれたのだろう。 自分もその考え方だったのでこれは嬉しかった。 死ねない選択を 逝けない愛を The vote that negates the option of death, the love that won't perish 死の選択肢を否定する投票 消えない愛 日本語歌詞では「選択」なのでエス個人へ当てている様だが、 英語歌詞では「vote」になっているのでエス(ユーザ) = 集合精神へのメッセージとも取れる。 囚人たちも多くの意見がミルグラムから聞こえるという点をシドウのMVでも描いているのだろう。 「不快です "人質ごっこ"だなんて人聞き悪いな」 「So this is unpleasant, hurling slurs of "hostage game", 」 これは不快な「人質ゲーム」のスラーを投げつけるものであり、 「俺次第なのにな」 「you do know that it's up to me?」 あなたはそれが私次第であることを知っていますか? 赦されない囚人を守る必要があり自分の不可欠さを主張して赦されたいのではないか、という意見が生まれる前に先んじて言葉を発していると思われる。 彼の性格からして本心から自分が必要である事を語っているはずだろう。 スラー(酔っぱらいの戯言、早口に捲し立て何を言っているのか分からない言葉など)とまで記述しているのはなかなかに攻撃性を感じるが、否定したい気持ちの表れに感じる。 ミルグラムというコンテンツに於いて現在キーパーソンになっている事から複雑な状況だ。 しかし生きたいと言った彼の言葉を漸く聞けた事は非常に大きい。

Congrats for 1 Million! 🎉 This is my favorite 2nd trial song so im very happy it finally reached this number :D

@JustSomeEss

5 ай бұрын

What's the first

@kiv9880

5 ай бұрын

@@JustSomeEss If you're asking what the first trial is, it's the first 11 *character* songs there is, they are in the playlist "music video" and it composes the "proof" for the first judgment the watchers made upon the characters, basically how milgram works is that there are 3 trials done by them coming up with a song and a music video format and then we choose to forgive or not the sins of the prisioners, if you think what you vaguelly understood that they did is justifiable or nah Oh and if you're asking what my favorite song of the 1st is, then it's "weakness", harukas song, im a simple girl 😅

@JustSomeEss

5 ай бұрын

@@kiv9880 cool, and don't worry, I know very well about some of the milgram lore

0:29 the flowers wilting as he walks pass I'm so... :(

WE'RE ALMOST THERE!!! LET'S GO SHIDOU NATION

happy holidays shidou nation

@user-nj8sk1cs5i

6 ай бұрын

thanks, you too❣️

「俺は必要だから」って歌詞の時の顔がすごく辛そう、言い聞かせてるみたいな 本当は赦さないで欲しい。でもコトコがまた牙を剥くなら「牙を抜くために」生きたい。だけどやっぱり...、って感情なのかな。

赦されない事すら赦されなくなった感が、なんか。 正解が分かんないよ

I love him...

@user-fy8dg7gn5z

3 ай бұрын

가족들 모두 얼굴에 점 하나 이상씩 있는 게 너무 귀여운데 개슬픔

1K BEFORE 1M‼️ LETSGOO

@Skaiflake

5 ай бұрын

WE DID IT‼️‼️‼️‼️

ROAD TO 1 MIL LETS GO SHIDOU NATION!!!!!

The voice drama for this one had Shidou torn between still wanting to be found guilty but also recognizing that his life is important because he's been able to help the other prisoners who were hurt by Kotoko's attacks. It's really cool to see that sentiment come up so explicitly in the music video, too! I'm interested to see where his characters in for the final act...

@capuzdepenix210

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty interesting I'm not sure if this view of himself as necessary is really being healthy to him, maybe he's forcing himself to help others while he's destroyed mentally, but I think that finding a new meaning to life other than family is the first step for Shidou to finally forgive himself.

@Kassina

Жыл бұрын

@@capuzdepenix210 Yeah... It really doesn't seem to be doing his mental state any favors, judging from the video. I could honestly see it going either way I'm act 3. Might depend on his relationship with the other prisoners, too.

I love this men after being voted innocent, he decides to accept it and concluded that “He may be wrong, but since he is forgiven he will still do his best as a doctor to save other’s life”

LETS GO SHIDOU NATION WE'RE ALMOST AT 970K

Only 2 days out and Mahiru is already halfway on the path to ratioing Shidou :(

@aplucard25

Жыл бұрын

Lo and behold. Mahiru’s MV just got more likes than Shidou’s MV today.

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

Жыл бұрын

@@aplucard25t happened. She passed him. It only took 9 and a half days. (Nothing against, Mahiru. I actually love her video and song, but I think Shidou’s deserved more love.)

@iluVioletLink

10 ай бұрын

it's been a week since Cat was released and Kazui's views are on the track to beat Shidou

ドラムの音や携帯のコール音とか心臓の鼓動をイメージしてたらだんだんドラムが弱くなっているのとか不在着信で弱ってるのを表現してるんだったら鳥肌もんの発想だよな

自分の行いが正しくないことをこんなにも理解して苦しむ男おるか❓😭

I think the most interesting line in the song is (They translated as "hurling slurs of "hostage game" and I like that, it's much shorter and accurate to the character, but lemme add the literal translation to prove my point) "Playing pretend that have I hostages? That's defamation" cause that sort of adds on to the fact that he's using Mahiru's life as a reason to be innocent it's like he's saying "vote me guilty and the girl dies" lol the line after that "you do know it's up to me right?" sort of gives me chills ngl. overall I think I'll vote him innocent, but like, what's the catch? It feels like there's literally no down side to voting him innocent. Milgram would never make things that clear cut for us, I wonder what terrible fucking twist will await us for having sympathy lol.

@tyreesjameswilliams35

Жыл бұрын

Lol's. it does seems like that tho. Excellent summary of it imo.

@SugarFang

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the more literal translation. Shidou's my favorite of the bunch, but that line & him calling himself indispensable unsettles me a little too. I would have voted to forgive, but there's a small part of me that'd wonder if we were being manipulated and he has some kind of complex.

不快で気持ち悪いと感じてるユノとシドウ……気持ち的にも審査的にも似てるの面白いな〜

シドウさん自身も多分混同してしまっているから悩み苦しんでいるんだろうけど、一審の時からずっと言っている｢赦さないで｣はドナーとなった患者とその家族、あとは今回出てきたご家族に対してであって、今回の｢赦して｣は明確にエスもとい私たちに対して矢印が向いている感じがしたな。赦されてしまって自分のことをまあある意味否定されてしまった今、エスに赦されないとミルグラム内部での医療行為ができなくなるというのがこの人にとっての1番近い縋りつくべき存在理由だったのだろうと思われるので。まあそれが理由であっても生きていいのか迷ってる（あるいは家族の元にはやく逝きたい）人にとっては大変酷な選択なんですけれど。 少々肯定しすぎたら危ういような部分はあるものの、こうやって人間らしく悩んでるシドウさんの思想を否定する必要があるようには感じられないから個人としてはこの人のことを赦したいな。 それはそれとして本当に顔がいいな桐崎獅童……勘弁してくれや………… 【追記】桐崎獅童の危うい部分についての考察 ドラパのタイトルが『アスクレピオス』ギリシャ神話の医神なの大変に不穏ですね。人の命を左右できる神とかって思ってたりしないでしょうねシドウさん……そうならないように誰か引きとめられるひとがいたらいいんだけどなあ。年長組なだけに彼をたしなめられる人がいなさそうなのが怖いですね……

It's almost a month since this vid was released.. let's get this man at least 500k views guys >

@yuwyu4841

Жыл бұрын

When is the next one gonna be released? Are they on hiatus or something

@MrThukko

Жыл бұрын

@@yuwyu4841 Not on hiatus, it just takes around 2 months per song normally. The official release date for Mahiru's song is 5/31/23, and then Kazui's is scheduled for 7/26/23.

@yuwyu4841

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThukko oh wow, im new to milgram so i didnt know. Thank you though! But now i cant wait for amane's haha

0:41 Red tags given during triage means the person is in need of the most urgent treatment

hiii shidou hiii waves at you why isnt he responding

@rikkatenma

Жыл бұрын

i think thats a photo….

@soleilpeik

Жыл бұрын

Down horrendous

ive never started crying over a milgram mv before this. there's just something about him seeing his wife and kids, the knowledge that they're dead, and the exhaustion in his face that got me

もっと伸びろ

ONE MILLION🎉🎉🎉

it's still hard to fully understand exactly what Shidou did, but personally I believe that his family (or alternatively just his wife, and the children in the mv are just his dreams) was hospitalised, and Shidou made the decision to donate their organs. after being put in that position himself, he begins to hate himself for forcing that decision on other people - he pressured others to give up on their loved ones because he saw it as the medically correct decision, without considering the agony he put them through by doing so. Milgram does not follow the laws of any country or existing legal system, so Shidou choosing to take his family off life support would definitely suffice for his crime, however it's also possible that he went against medical advice or that it was a case of 'mercy killings'.

@Lil-y-pad

Жыл бұрын

Ooo, I really like your theory! I think it works well in the context of the first MV where he was talking to what looked to be relatives of a patient.

@chewie5593

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, I was racking my brain trying to think of what did he mean in the line "..they were retribution for my incessant taking" and your theory makes so much sense in this context! Like he's been "incessantly" pressuring patient's loved ones to pull the plug and "taking" their organs from them. Thanks for your insight! Brb while I go cry now

@carrot535

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@obyn6751

Жыл бұрын

This one makes a lot of sense actually!

@elsakisiel7368

Жыл бұрын

It would make a lot of sense ! But then, if that's the case, his only "crime" is... being a good doctor ? I understand that he feels guilty and doesn't see it like that, but, from my own prism of morals, he did absolutely nothing wrong if all he did was pressure families to take the correct medical decision.

皆さんイヤホンして聞いてみてください！ 冒頭の電話音右耳からしか聞こえないです！ シドウさんが留守録音じゃなくて 右耳に受話器当ててたという事…？

TRIAGE 1 MIL VIEWS SOON

shidou we'll get you to 1 mil before the year ends for sure

もうなんか全然解釈はできなかったけど、感情が伝わってきて泣きそう てかシドウさん美しすぎて……🥲♡

ついさっきボイドラ聴いたばっかだから余計胸が引き裂かれるような感覚が…

happy triageversary i can't believe you are 1 year old shidou kirisaki triage

「"赦さないでほしい"のに　揺れてる"赦してほしい"と」って歌詞。前は赦さないでほしいと願ってたけど､心境の変化が生まれたってことだよね 　コトコの襲撃による2人の治療をしたから「自分にしかできないこと」を見つけて生きる意味を見出だしたのかもしれない｡「俺次第」って歌詞にも､"自分が生きていなければ延命できなかっただろうに"みたいなニュアンスに聞こえてくる 　もしくは歌詞にもあるけど単純に赦さないでほしいと願ったのに赦されたから、赦されることが自分への罰だと捉えてその罰を受けるために赦してほしいといってるのかもしれないね

イヤホンで聞いた瞬間序盤で「んんっ、」からの深呼吸に気づいて倒れた 最高すぎるありがとう