*My personal top 5:* *1. Ether - Nas* *2. Bitch In Yoo - Common* *3. Suicide - Twista* *4. Dissin’ These Fools - D2ThaS* 5. *Against All Odds - 2Pac*

Yall need to address the jayz won the war while nas won the battle narrative... nas has won the war in my eyes

@stillmaticdon1941

Жыл бұрын

There was no war. It was just a battle and Nas won

@hoodcounselor

Жыл бұрын

Bc Nas ended up working for Jay

@j-touch232

Жыл бұрын

@@hoodcounselor how did he work for jay? Did jay purchase def jam?

@j-touch232

Жыл бұрын

@@stillmaticdon1941 now this is the right answer..

@hoodcounselor

Жыл бұрын

@@j-touch232 jay was president and signed him

Ice Cube didn’t ‘end’ NWA.. the group was essentially done by the time No Vaseline came in

Hit ‘Em Up is a prime hip hop diss record. Sampled the enemies record, direct, references to other disses.. plus it was a hit

Ppl need to give Canibus his props. As far as bars/song is concerned, he won that battle. Everything else was the industry. And the Biggie line is soooo not the most memorable bar in that song...

@romybrown6102

Жыл бұрын

"If you really wanna show off, we can get it on. Live infront of the cameras of your own sitcom. I let you kick the verse, f@ck it I let you kick 'em all. I'll even wait for the studio audience to applaud..."

Haven't been here in a while...Congrats to the Studio and set up 👏🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

Camera and setup is dope got Mike D and Coop looking exquisite.

The dynamic of you two in the studio is fantastic, better flow of conversation. You know how Coop can run deep into a point and go deaf sometimes 😂. New-ish subscriber, very enjoyable show, keep up the sterling work 💪🏾

Great episode

Overall South Bronx is the best dis of all time by far. It took KRS from broke, homeless and irrelevant to the talk of a city, united the whole Bronx, united BDP with Red Alert to go against Mr Magic and the juice crew and crushed a hot MC with his own flow... All while making one of the most seminal rap records to date at that point. The degree of difficulty is unreal but he still made such an impact that Shan had to respond. GOAT dis record period.

@frank5d

Жыл бұрын

The Bridge Is Over hits more for me but you are absolutely correct.

That studio set up is tight , really enjoy this look . Funny that Coop said a great diss record has to make you go Ooooo ( which is from The Bridge is Over ) . Lastly Curtis still got paper cuts from Mr. Grice .

Ether, story of adidon, back to back, hit ‘em up, exodus

Hit Em Up Ether Real Muthaphuckin Gs Dre Day No Vaseline

@luddman77

Жыл бұрын

yes sir

@PR-WAY

Жыл бұрын

@@luddman77exsplain why?

@luddman77

Жыл бұрын

@@PR-WAY sorry typo

@luddman77

Жыл бұрын

@@PR-WAY I'm tripping forgive

Nice setup

Great Show as Always. S/O to Mike D. Coop made a great point about Nas and Jay fans whereas Jay's guys think he's the GOAT Nas fans know he is and as a fan of both he couldn't be more correct and i think that can also be applied to CR7 and Messi stans. Peace Y'all.

Hit em up is the hardest diss track of all time period. No discussion.

@Mic-100

Жыл бұрын

It wasnt

@bennisford1712

Жыл бұрын

@@Mic-100 ikr im with u...it wasn't

@michaeldavis8665

Жыл бұрын

It definitely wasn’t

Slept on diss tracks Budden - all his Drake disses Mase- The Oracle Mickey- Wraith

1. Hit Em Up/Watch Ya Mouth/Against All Odds Bomb First ect. Tupac 2. 120 bars/300 bars/92 bars or Pest Control ect. The Game 3. Realmatherfuckin Gz. Eazy E Dresta BG Knock Out 4. Either. Nas 5. ? Cant think of anyone else at the Moment lol

People seem to forget what D-Block did to 50 Cent with Checkmate.

iN NO PARTICULAR ORDER.......... Ether, Dre Day, Hit Em Up, No Vaseline and Beans ( Special Delivery)

greatest line ever tho is that Quik like to Eiht u left out the G cuz the G ain’t in u that surpasses all the lines in all the songs mentioned here

I’m surprised Mike ain’t got Black Slim Shady number 1 considering his disdain for Em

Bridge is ova,Pest Control,Bitch in u,Ether, 2nd Round Knockout

I got Ether as the top diss record of all-time.. hands down.

No Vaseline is definitely #1 especially if we are talking the hardest diss track and what did the most damage or impact

No Vaseline Hit em UP ETHER Real Muthafuckin Gz Dollaz&Centz/Sense N dat Order

@bizzle7878

Жыл бұрын

My list is the same ,except for ether...I'm a hov stan so I got "The takeover"

Ether Hit em up Real Compton city g’s 300 bars Back to back No vaseline ( honorable mention)

👑50 Yrs of Hip-Hop👑WE MISSIN' THIS 👉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHlsp7CpmdnQo9o.html

that line about ''money stacks taller than you'' its just meaningless... nobody cares about your money Jay

COOP!!! U BROKE MY HEART SAYING BEANS IS A BETTER LYRICIST THAN GHOST. EVERYTHING U SAID BEFORE THIS I AGREED WITH AND U BETRAY REALITY WITH THIS ERONNEUS STATEMENT😫

Give me Checkmate by Jadakiss.

Imma make a hatin' ass diss track about @According 2 Hip Hop if I keep seeing' this constant progress... 🙌🏼

23:45 easily Real mouther*** G's > dre day

Black Friday - Lil Kim

E40 record haters (was a prelude on how the other coast feels and addresses how east coast be dissing them)

300 Bars is the greatest diss track of all time!

C murder- Down for my niggaz!

EM murdered you on yo own is the oochie wally bodyguard response

“2nd round knockout” needs to be here. “The Bitch in you” is great! And I have no idea why some people think “Ether” is better “the takeover” Jay had much more venom in them bars! Em got a bunch of good lyrical diss records.

@humblebragger500

Жыл бұрын

Cap

@evsvdb

Жыл бұрын

All cap.... everything Nas said was basically true. Everything lol. Name one thing Nas said that wasn't true

@KASLEX

Жыл бұрын

@@evsvdb What he say? Compared to beans you’re wack, you got big lips, Em murdered you on a record, you’re a dick rider, he just sounded mad to me trying to throw around as many insults as possible. I love Nas, and it’s a good song, but none of the bars made me make “that face” … Jay was saying that shit that had my face mean mug and shit. Like “dam” … “Ni@#a, you ain’t live it you witnessed it from your folks pad/ scribbled in your note pad and created your life/ I showed you your first Tec, on tour with large professor, then I heard your album bout your Tec on your dresser” I can quote this whole shit, the whole verse is grimey. Them lines hit way harder. What’s the best line in Ether? What line made you pause the song and make “that face” and say dam. 🤣🤣 and I know that line for line too. 🤣🤣

Story of Addidon is number one

Nas was supposed to be a feature

No Checkmate by Kiss?? No Back Down by 50???

leroy is always gassing ish.

The best diss song was not even a diss song. It was GhostFace diss video aimed at Action Bronson

No Vaseline Ether Dre day Real Muhphuckin G’s Dollaz & sense

Ether No Vaseline Imagery Player Back Down Story of Addion

But we don't know if Drake wrote it....

@danteroots-hf7tz

Жыл бұрын

Drake wrote that in studio in minutes. Drake is ghostwriter has been since 2008

@danteroots-hf7tz

Жыл бұрын

Drake wrote for Dr.Dre the demo he did for him is on KZread. Drake wrote the whole song 30 hours for Kanye his demo is on KZread. Put some respect on Drake’s pen because your favorite does

@evsvdb

Жыл бұрын

@@danteroots-hf7tz I'm good

Lupe "Steve Jobs" better than "Hit Em Up"

HIT EM UP IS TOP FIVE Stop it

The beat to Ether is wack?? That’s a strong clout chase… Come on now.. Nobody says that, that’s that Jay fan BS trying to rewrite history 20yrs later.

@humblebragger500

Жыл бұрын

The beat was sooooo sinister

@j-touch232

Жыл бұрын

If you an artist n u never heard ether beat before n they played it for you, u wouldn't use it.. I think it was part of nas artistry to take an awkward beat to ride on..

ooochie wally verse wasn't bad

If we are talking about memorable bars and punches how did the whole culture ignore Joe Budden's "Making of A Murderer"? Ether shifted the culture. Tou had to be outside. When Beans said "Nas hit Jay with a body shot" on radio it was insane. The way they downplay 2nd Round Knockout is problematic. The most memorable line is "99% of your fans wear high heels". The way it is framed is dependant on sales and popularity, not bars.

@hoodcounselor

Жыл бұрын

The Wake was harder

@darrylmiller9643

Жыл бұрын

@@hoodcounselor I wouldn't argue that, but the point that I am making ultimately is what Joe did was undress Drake in a way that clearly was followed by Pusha T. Joe's 4 pack (crazy) absolutely attacked ever angle with all of the elements these two consistently speak of except the one that they often speak about obtusely: impact. What they do not address is how impact is related to marketing, cultural bias, and forced narratives. When constantly speaking of numbers, while ignoring bias we create the issues that we complain about. A perfect example is how Coop downplays Canibus' diss. It is absolutely tied to LL's fame. For those who were outside (I am a bit older than Coop and Mike) when it hit we all know that Canibus absolutely had the better diss, and it was earth shattering. Coop conveniently says the Biggie line was the most memorable in order to make the diss fit his argument. Everyone who is honest must admit the most memorable line is "99% of your fans wear high-heels." Which was a nuclear bomb, because that is exactly why LL is often not respected as he should be in hip-Hop. He is often looked as doing his number because of sex appeal instead of upper tier lyricism.

Guess Moe Dee and Cool J don't exist... smh

I be telling people Jay-Z paid for shit. You can’t tell me he didn’t for 4:44. Ain’t no way all the people bought that album. Nas is greater than Jay. Peace!

the original verses of ether were better imo

I’m not a big fan of Em but Mike is such a hater that he’ll put The Black Slim Shady in a top 5 diss songs ever when it’s not even a top 50 diss record 🤣

Dollaz & Sense, Hit Em Up, Long Kiss Goodnight, Takeover, True to the Game, Infrared, Story of Adidon are all better than Black Slim Shady

Black Slim Shady was a great diss

Hit em up, dollars n sense, no Vaseline, real Compton city G'S, The Take Over....im a hov stan..so no to Ether haha...honorable mentions..beans Jada diss, calling out names, dre day

@luddman77

Жыл бұрын

Ether make your soul burn slow......😂

The bridge is over Take over Hit ‘em up 2nd round KO Super ugly

beans isn't better than jada

Takeover >>> Ether, and nobody cares about the black slim shady record, or has any idea why he made that long ass song 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Don’t @ me fam but Hit’Em up is highly overrated I understand the backstory and passion in the record but dammit it is Dope diss yes Legendary yes Goat hell naw 😂😂😂

@PeterStone-hy6ir

Жыл бұрын

It’s a GOAT diss.. the end

@donknock-offs

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterStone-hy6ir Naw bruh Pac let up allowing his young homies to rhyme against a top 10 caliber emcee If Lil Cease came on "Who Shot Ya" or "Long Kiss" you'd hold that against Big It's kinda mid after you take away the "Oh I love everything 2pac" BS

@TribalCheif-ku4vn

Жыл бұрын

You buggin. He put the Outlaws on and washed JM. Multiple things got accomplished with Hit Em Up

@donknock-offs

Жыл бұрын

@@TribalCheif-ku4vn 😭😭😭 I don’t care about JM bc they wasn’t on any diss record my guy Ether come on and here comes Jungle and Horse Lmao GTFOH 😭😭😭

Ether was and is wildly overrated. A mediocre beat with okay lyrics.

@luddman77

Жыл бұрын

nope, it's to much truth in it..... It's stands in hiphop lore.

Destroy and rebuild is a slept on And takeover ending Nas after hearing the stillmatic freestyle is disrespectful