I appreciate the video but the future is EdgeTX and EthOS. Sure they'll be holdouts but as far as active development, these two OS are the most active. RotorFlight will only accelerate their adoption in the heli space.

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

There is a growing enthusiasm for Open Source technology. I do envision Open Source transmitters gaining a bigger piece of the pie over time, but we are just not there yet, at least not in the 3D helicopter discipline of the general RC hobby. At the present time, both the VBC and Jeti radios are quite popular in the 3D helicopter hobby as seen at any given fun fly in the US.

Fascinating. These brands just must not be popular in Quadcopter FPV circles. I've only been flying for a year, but I haven't heard of them. I'm very happy with my Radiomater Boxer and would likely only buy an EdgeTX radio until things change. But again, most of my exposure is in the Quad FPV community and I see you fly 3D Heli.

@davidjacobs8558

Ай бұрын

these brands predate drone age. and mostly designed for traditional Radio Control airplanes and helicopters. Graupner, JR Propo and Futaba were the big names in RC electronics.

@Dorff_Meister

Ай бұрын

@@davidjacobs8558 Makes sense. I watched RC from afar over the years. I discovered a year ago that FPV acro quad flying is my happy place.

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

I do NOT fly multi-rotors, quadcopters, or FPV. I fly exclusively 3D RC aerobatic helicopters, so all my RC videos are from the point of view of these 3D RC aerobatic helicopters. The Mikado ecosystem is very popular in the world of RC helicopters. Although it can be used for fixed wing, this Mikado system is generally considered the only RC helicopter-centric ecosystem in our side of the hobby. Jeti is more popular in the fixed wing side of the hobby, but it can be configured to work with helicopters, multi-rotors and other RC disciplines. The Open Source systems are gaining popularity in the 3D RC aerobatic helicopters side of the hobby, but the interface and ease of use is not considered as mature as that of Mikado.

Good video and it was good seeing you again at the Spring Fling. I would suggest doing a basic video on the teflon mod for the gimbals as I'm sure most watching this would like to hear more. Regarding the comments on Radiomaster: Vbar is obviously the most common with Futaba and Jeti being not to far behind in the RC helicopter world. Radiomaster is becoming a cheaper alternative for those who can't afford 1K for a radio. That being said the learning curve on EdgeTX is steeper. Personally I love my Futaba 18sz (I got a great deal on a used one). Even though I have a Radiomaster TX16S that i use for flying my quads, Im staying with the 18sz. It boils down to whats comfortable in the hands, ease of programming by the individual and what a person can afford. Hopefully you can make it out to the fall event - Greg

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

Hello Greg. It was nice seeing you at Spring Fling as well. No Fall Mowdown for me this year, but I'll make it to this IRCHA 2024 next month. 😀

I have the DS-12, don't like the plastic case. Bought the DS-14 shortly thereafter with the aluminum case. I see the DS-14 line discontinued. The EVO radio looks nice. Reminds me of JR Propo! Never did like the module system Jeti uses. Overpriced to begin with. But I guess you buy the options you need!

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

I don’t like wearing a neck strap. I felt I needed to wear a neck strap (actually a body strap) with the DS-14, DS-16, and specially the DS-24 radios because they were noticeably heavier. I don’t like how the aluminum shell feels pretty cold on my hands during the winter months. That’s why I sold all my other Jeti DS radios and settled for this light weight DS-12 radio. I also fly only helicopters, so the DS-12 has all the functionality needed for the 3D helicopter discipline.

@JDDupuy

Ай бұрын

@@johnahamelv makes perfect sense.

Mikado Vcontrol all the way for Helis, it's just the best for them. Jeti is suited more for planes.

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

I too have felt that way since the VBC Touch came out. The Neo and now EVO units are good to very good, but they are not excellent. I find the Spirit units, specially the GT/GTR next level compared to Neo/EVO. However, to get the optimal experience with Spirit, Jeti radios are arguably at the top of the list. Jeti radios pack a lot of features (after you unlock the paid modules), but a lot of these features are best suited for fixed wing, and do not really apply to helicopters. The VBC Touch and now EVO radios are good to very good, but again not excellent. However, when you pair the Neo/EVO flight controllers with a VBC Touch/EVO radio, that's where I feel the whole is much more than the sum of its individual parts. I prefer the overall general experience with Mikado as a whole than with Jeti/Spirit. I really look forward to the Spirit WAVE system, as this will be the first competition of its kind that Mikado will face. I am also intrigued about the JR flight controller still in its testing phase, but as good as JR radios are, just like Jeti, JR is fixed wing centric. It seems Open Source radios and flight controllers are gaining in popularity, for what I assume is the very affordable price and and the features and possibilities limited only by the programmers' imagination, but I would need these Open Source systems to have improved user interface before I tackle something like that. I do see me trying open source equipment in the future, like in maybe 2 or 3 years from now, but I am not ready and/or willing to take on that challenge at this time.

i suppose mostly for old men now who have money but Radiomaster is taking over due to open source and its low price. I have just dumped my futaba for radiomaster.

@alwaysflying6540

21 күн бұрын

I dumped my radio for radiomaster as well. These radios are nice, but honestly, mine can do everything they can and more. Throwing away money

Which one is more cheaper?

@johnahamelv

Ай бұрын

Looking at US market, the VBC EVO radio is currently sold exclusively by Mikado USA. shop.mikadousa.com/VBar-Control-EVO-Pick-Your-Color_p_3021.html The current list prices for a standard black VBC EVO radio is $1,299.99. There are options to purchase the radio in certain colors that bring the list price to $1,399.99, and some special colors bring the price to $1,499.99. Once you purchase the radio, you have the option to upgrade the radio's software to a "Pro" version for an additional $50.00. For the Jeti DS-12 radio, the base model lists for $650.00 and the carbon edition (the one in this video) lists for $975.00. To unlock features, Jeti has you pay additional money for modules. You can purchase those modules individually a la carte, or you can purchase them as package deals. A fully unlocked base model DS-12 radio lists for $1,025.00 and a fully unlocked DS-12 carbon edition radio lists for $1,375.00. www.espritmodel.com/jeti-duplex-radio-systems-ds-12-2-4ghz-900mhz-line.aspx