How sad. How many young girls suffered that same horrific fate😖? These men should not be allowed to have a girl in their beds until they're allowed to have children! 😡

@cherylvergin1757

2 жыл бұрын

Millions of women freely elect to abort their babies in our society, how sad is that?

@orianamandi

Жыл бұрын

Ikr!!!

@NikkiDavis

10 ай бұрын

This didn't happen the way the show portrays it as the show added that rule for drama.

Let me guess, they blame Nurbahar for the pregnancy too. They never blame the males, always the females. I remember after Mustafa's death, Fatma was silencing those who blamed Suleiman for Mustafa's death yet she was blaming Hurrem. Double standards.

@ui7636

2 жыл бұрын

Fatma Sultan right?

@shanouboubou

2 жыл бұрын

There is a double standard of course, but it's part of the good writing since it's a show taking place in the 16th century. But also remember that to speak against the Sultan was considered treason so it was easier to blame Hürrem.

@Aliaakaramm

2 жыл бұрын

So don't blame mahudevran fir Mehmet death blame soliman too

@ui7636

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aliaakaramm no that was definitely Mahidevran since she even said “it’s time for mehmet to die” in the show. But in real history he died naturally from that disease. Suleiman wasn’t for blame. Educate yourself please.

@Aliaakaramm

2 жыл бұрын

@@ui7636 well its the same fir hurrem then who stole his seal and made the hole plot But ifciurse double standards saint hurrem fans and definitely you are the one who need to educate yourself

I can't imagine the pain. That's so horitfic. In one of the episodes where they prepare to abort Efsun hatun's (Mustafa's concubine) pregnancy, I saw equipments they used for abortion back then. It was like they were preparing a criminal to be hanged, drawn and quartered.

@sanchitaagte8215

Жыл бұрын

could you tell what the equipments were

Forcing an abortion is disgusting, violating a woman’s choice over her body is terrible :(

@christinecameron1612

2 жыл бұрын

That notion didn't exist back then in that culture, and it cannot be applied. For a Muslim woman in that time, being pregnant, unmarried, and not even an official concubine of the prince, it meant a literal death sentence for her. They literally just saved her life.

@boredofmindgames4662

2 жыл бұрын

Realistically it was the lesser of two evils, because who’s to say they would of allowed either the mother or child to live

@Lena-gm6my

2 жыл бұрын

She was a slave in Suleyman' s harem. She had no writes. Todaywomen are constitutionally free and many of them are also forced to abort children and some of them, as well as politicians, call for freedom to abort. Any family, any dinasty, any nation who kills their children, eventually end ruined. It's a self death sentence.

@bearhakuna514

2 жыл бұрын

back then its rules ok .. no one can do anything of this rule long time ago

@sweetspicy7880

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure

I love the resemblance between mihrimah and memhet, the straight brows and quick thinking eyes.

She did a right thing to protect her brother and mother. Mehmed’s déstockons to keep the pregnancy is sweet, but how would he ever ensure it? If that was found by wrong people the girl would be dead as well, there were no happy ending for that possible child. He really should have though beforehand - and it’s only his fault here, not Mihrimah’s

@multipurpose6984

2 жыл бұрын

@Knyaz Sviatoslav right

@multipurpose6984

2 жыл бұрын

Whatever i like her but this time she was wrong

@kristinesharp6286

2 жыл бұрын

They are all wrong expect the woman and baby. Why exactly did they want the abortion?

@Juliamarcinkowska-rk9zw

Жыл бұрын

Killing innocent baby is never a right thing

she proved that she's the daughter of the world emperor and the queen of the world

@DimSK.

2 жыл бұрын

She became valide sultan later.

@eurech

2 жыл бұрын

@@DimSK. She never became valide sultan, she acted as one.

@elizabethbrower640

2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure the Chinese emperors wouldn’t have agreed with that “world” sentiment. Lol

@aqildanial717

2 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethbrower640 yup true

@afroditaelsa8962

2 жыл бұрын

@@eurech Nope, she did. Look it up if you don't believe me. Selim gave her the title when he became Sultan

She did this for her brother, no worries.

Mihrimah is a mini hurrem

So sad... Poor Nurbahar! Cruel times😠

@aliyufiza1354

2 жыл бұрын

Her name is nurbahar or nurbanu? 😕

@kasiafoksinska2143

2 жыл бұрын

Nurbanu was Selim's I guess so she is Nurbahar

@aliyufiza1354

2 жыл бұрын

@@kasiafoksinska2143 tx for the explanation

The next valide sultan! Valide mihrimah sultan :) her strong character made her case unique as the first and only sister of a sultan with the title of valide sultan.

@yevgheniyakx4k371

2 жыл бұрын

Valide is the mother of the reigning sultan, isn't she?

@DimSK.

2 жыл бұрын

@@yevgheniyakx4k371 yes she is. But there have been three unique cases here: 1.hurrem sultan died earlier, mihrimah helped with money Selim to ascend on throne so Selim gave her, his sister, the valide Sultan title. 2. Kosem sultan kept the title of valide sultan as grandmother (great valide sultan) and regent when her grandson, mehmed ascended the throne, while his mother Turhan sultan was ignored without titles and power. 3. Sultan Abdul Hamid gave the title of valide sultan to his stepmother, rahime perestu sultan because his biological mother died early and he loved his stepmom. These three cases are unique. For our case here, this marks mihrimah as the strongest FULL BLOOD imperial royal sultana of ottoman history, being the first and last sister of a sultan to be called valide sultan and have all responsibilities and duties to act as one.

@yevgheniyakx4k371

2 жыл бұрын

@@DimSK. wow, that is interesting. Thanks a lot!

@multipurpose6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@DimSK. right

@crissy8864

6 ай бұрын

Mihrimah was a really a monster. Poor rustem. His wife was really ugly

She deserved Rustem with that black heart of hers

0:06 is that Nefes Zorlu in the series "Sen Anlat Karadeniz" ?

That Era and it's rule really pissed me off...

This is cruel...

Could you imagine pain she felt taking baby by force ,sharp tools,

Like mother like daughter 😂

However it may be justified - what Mirhima did is the most dryer she has killed her own blood and even worse that if an innocent

@asmashrestha8995

2 жыл бұрын

True in context of 21st century mindset and environment. While watching period based drama we need to think according to that period. Specifically in royalty if action is not taken swiftly your entire bloodline be in jeopardy...thats why they dont even hesitate killing their own child or parents...we cant even imagine the pressure they are in.....that was different world

And now I no longer like her for forcing that to happen

@DimSK.

2 жыл бұрын

She had to do it. Mehmed was not allowed to leave a concubine pregnant in suleimans harem. She did it to protect him, the punishment is heavy for a prince if the sultan found out. This shows how strong and powerful personality she has, her attitude confirms that she could be valide sultan, which happened when Selim gave her the title. She was the most powerful imperial princess and unique case, the first and last sister of a sultan to become valide sultan in ottoman history.

@Anon-lg5rj

Жыл бұрын

@@DimSK. wait So mehmet got suleiman's concubine pregnant? Is that right? So was the sultan sleeping with all of his concubines?

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

@@Anon-lg5rj yes , mehmed is not allowed to sleep with a concubine in his father's harem

This is forbidden in Islam. I wonder this really happened in the history

@namra7957

2 жыл бұрын

don't know if this really happened with shehzade mehmet but there are similar incidents like that in ottoman history.e.g, Nurbano sultan forced a girl into abortion in which she died when his grandson impregnated her because she was part of his father's harem.

@amirabenabbes7196

2 жыл бұрын

some ottoman rules has nothing to do with islam for example : kings were not allowed to marry their concubines but soleiman was the first to break it and many other rules .

@namra7957

2 жыл бұрын

@@amirabenabbes7196 true.Ottoman empire was a semi islamic state a lot of rules have nothing to do with islam.fratricide and all this killing for throne.sure it was better than many empires but it was not truly islamic.

@hunnyflash

2 жыл бұрын

They usually call it "Ottoman Islam". Many people don't understand that Islam has changed through the centuries as different scholars and judges have interpreted Islam in their own way. Suleiman , and other Ottoman rulers, also added to and integrated Islam into their rulings in new ways.

@christinecameron1612

2 жыл бұрын

The local Muslim women her explained to me that in theri belief, the soul only enters a fetus's body around 12 weeks along, when the pregnancy has settled in. Before then, there is no crime against it.

Mother like daughter pure evil

What a shame and cruelness towards poor concubines these princes shouldn't be lie down with any concubine untill they are not allowed to have children...these abortion destroys the life woman physically and mentally

Why having a child was prohibited?

@celebtalkofficial222

2 жыл бұрын

It Was Prohibited Before Becoming a Sanjak Bey For Princes

@Redluna32

2 жыл бұрын

So, briefly here, the reality is that sehzades left to rule a sanjak around their pre-teen years (14 or so) where they would have their own harem and children. However, partly for the rule of drama and otherwise to keep from splitting actors and storylines, the show made it so that sehzades were allowed to sleep with women beforehand just with the impossible to follow rule that they couldn't get pregnant.

@vivian2414

2 жыл бұрын

Want the s** but not the consequence. Cruel place for those poor women or adolescent girls.

@namra7957

2 жыл бұрын

maybe beacuse the girl is part of his father's harem

@kristinesharp6286

2 жыл бұрын

@@celebtalkofficial222 then why were they inserting?

This is cruel and evil

Like evil mother like evil daughter....she deserves that black hearted rustem for a long life

Mihrimah was a hidden monster from the very beggining. I really don't like how she's portayed here.

Forced sexual slavery. Forced abortion. Tsk…

@kristinesharp6286

Жыл бұрын

@Arijit Sengupta imagine you are captured, your family murdered and mutilated in front of you. You pass through the hands of different handlers. You find yourself in the palace where people disappear, beating often occur, others around you mutilated. You are picked to go you go. The nightmares continue. You can not freely leave the building. You are told when to wake, sleep and what task to do. They can’t say no. Once they have been used they will be interned in the old palace for life. They killed sons of Sultans and pregnant concubines no knowing gender when a transfer of power occurred. You are saying one of hundreds a reign may have had an enviable life? May you be reborn female in such a world.

محمت، میهیرماه، سلیم، بایزید، جهانگیر

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Killing innocents baby born Mirimah is such amonster Monster since childhood

@nelzz8406

2 жыл бұрын

She protected Mehmet. She is not a monster, it is a law

@Aliaakaramm

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelzz8406 she killed an unborn Truly horrible monster This is an unborn child Hurrem killer fans

@rupanjanaroy8959

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aliaakaramm nothing could be done this was the rule then.

@angelinenabua6336

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. She has to do it- for Mehmet, her brother. In those times, a Concubine shouldn't be pregnant from another prince. (Nurbahar is part of Suleiman's harem.) That's why they have to keep it a secret, otherwise something bad will happen to the Concubine, or the Prince. And the burden would be so heavy and painful. So her action could be justified. That's why Mihrihmah forced her to have an abortion. But still, the baby was innocent. So its kind of sad to have it aborted right away. But the Concubine and the Prince would get in a lot of trouble, if the Sultan ever finds out. And besides, it was the law. A Prince should never impregnate a Concubine from his Father's harem. Because it's not his. Also, you shouldn't say that Hürrem's fans are killers already. You always use disgusting nicknames for them. Your hatred is literally questionable. Your the killer here lmfao. Also, this is Mihrihmah. Not Hürrem. Use your damn brain

@janeoak929

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It is disgusting. Nurbahar must suffer very much. But sorry, I can't help but mention that Mahidevran did the same and no one calls her monster for that.

How can this abortion protect Mehmet?

@laurafabianmarrero8614

2 жыл бұрын

With his life Both would have been kill of the truth came out