just grabbed one of these to use on my 12 output old school Linn drum machine. Should be perfect for my needs.

@DcSoundOp

4 ай бұрын

That's a perfect use for this mixer, enjoy!

Great review, thank you. Been looking at this one and a back up and had you not pointed out the flaws (or "oversights" to be polite) no HPF or mute cue, I might've thought I found a bargain until first use when the frustration would've spoiled the show for me. Thanks again.

@DcSoundOp

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

good honest review

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, hope you're doing well!

thanks for this information ,and i really want know more ,like preamps from Midas Dm16 as same as Preamps from DDA(Power by Midas ). or Midas dm16 ADD DM16 are they the same ?

I have a Venice, can you tell me is there a difference in tone when running line level instruments (like synths or samplers) into the channel through line-in vs. that same instrument through a DI box then though the mic pre via XLR instead?

For a long time im searching an simple analog mixer like this, key point is the insert poinst on this mixer, i see as an analog bus mixer, like summations but on low buddget, the insert points can be helpfull for my daw returns to feed up with my external gears, an hibrith envaoriment. Thank you.

I would love to see a review video from you on one of the old school large Midas desks - let’s hunt down a Heritage 3000 or XL4 and get it reviewed!

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Media Made Easy out of Harrisburg, PA had a small remote truck a few years ago that had a H1000 that was really fun to mix on. I did a few PBS live town hall events with panel discussion on stage from that one & it was a blast on such a simple desk with all analog outboard. If anyone does need to park a Heritage console for a while, please reach out!

sir which means. this mixer aux cannot be use for external effects like lexicon reverb? i mean traditionally we send an aux signal to the external effects. then return to a specific channel to control that effects we return to.

Does the power supply area run hot? That’s a good place to cut cost is undersize the PS.

Why are the faders so short?

Thank you for the honest review. Right now looking for an upgrade to my trustworthy soundcraft spirit m4, need more mono ins. Probably I'll go for the M12 instead of this. Thx, again

@DcSoundOp

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message, I'm glad the video was helpful!

@dom2er

Жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp no doubt💯 much respect

Your black frames between video cuts are jarring

Can the channel inserts be used as outs into an audio interface?

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

You could do the old half way plugged in at the insert to make a direct out trick, sure.

I was wondering. Can the two AUX be used as send - return effect if they are returned to the 13-15 channels? is that how it is indented?

@DcSoundOp

4 ай бұрын

Hey, great question! The two auxes can each be switched into post fade send mode, which is what you'd want for most effects sends. The stereo channels are a perfect place to bring effects back in too, so you've got it absoltuely right.

To me, this mixer doesn't make sense at this price. Either go get something cheaper(for just need a mixer use cases, behringers are great) or go slightly higher(soundcraft Signature, mackie proFX)

I need a small desk for my gigs abroad, I only will be plugging 2 or 3 keyboards into it in stereo, but I definitely need 2 x Aux Sends! do I go for a Soundcraft EPM6 or this Midas DM12? I run my Fischer amp IEM unit into my current desk for stereo keys, so Aux 1 send is for left and Aux 2 send is for right… any other desk choices?

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Wayne, I've had a lot of success traveling abroad with a QSC TouchMix in the past. Both the 8 and 16 models can fit in my carry-on and I only really interact with them using an iPad mini & it has been perfect for all sorts of situations from weddings to corporate & broadcast events to film festivals. They're a bit more money, but you'll save it in the size and weight costs when traveling pretty quickly.

@WayneMusicianUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp hey buddy! I don’t want digital! I only want analogue

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

@@WayneMusicianUK Fair enough. I'm not sure the specs online are accurate, but the DM mixers are crazy light weight if that's a consideration for you. The EPM6 is probably the better buy for support and service in the long run (and it is their original design) but if the specs are right, it is ten pounds heavier than the DM12.

hello, I am looking for a small mixer (12.14 or even 16 tracks) which mixer would you recommend with good preamp and good sound???

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

If you have a budget in mind and what type of mixing you're going to be doing, it would be easier to suggest something. Are you looking for analog or would a digital mixer be interesting to you?

@Armlockk

2 жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp analog

I am after a mixer for home and live use 😁 I’m only gonna be running 4 or 5 keyboards into it (keys in stereo) using mono channels panned left and right… I was going to buy a Soundcraft EPM 8 or EPM 12, which one would still be the best? is the EQ better sounding on the Soundcraft?

@DcSoundOp

7 ай бұрын

Well you are exactly the person this style of mixer is designed for, keyboards or synths etc. so it's a good choice. Personally, I'd go with the Soundcraft for the overall quality and support they offer, and the fact that it's their design in the first place. I don't know if you'd be able to tell a real tangible difference in the EQ quality side by side, but I haven't A/B'd them directly, so I don't want to speak out of turn. Thanks for checking out the video!

@WayneMusicianUK

7 ай бұрын

@@DcSoundOp yeah.. I’m gonna stick with a Soundcraft EPM, the Midas I’m told is just a Behringer really? the DM12 was a consideration but it looks a bit “cheap”

Thank you, I was really considering this mixer but the lack of hi-pass was my sticking point. Such a shame.

@DcSoundOp

10 ай бұрын

It is a shame, it works for some folks who are using synths, but not the best for a general purpose mixer. Thanks for watching!

Really good video! I use a Soundcraft K3 as a main mixer and also a little Spirit SX as a sub mixer. I mainly work with line level signals from synthesizers etc and have been looking at a low cost replacement for the little sub mixer as it has been becoming unreliable etc. I looked at this Midas and I get that it's made to a cost but the lack of even a single bus, the weird eq, the lack of level controls on the aux'es and lack of hpf just leave me scratching my head. At this point may as well get a Behringer desk for a similar cost which has all those things. As for who uses an analogue mixer now days? Plenty of people with small studios or making electronic music who like something hands on, actually that's where I see a lot of the demand is in the smaller format analogue mixers.

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for the message! You're absolutely right, it's really cool seeing so many people getting into synths and analog gear right now. There is certainly a market for a really cool small format analog mixers too, otherwise I doubt SSL would be doing so well with theirs at the moment. Thanks again for joining in.

I had a Allen&Heat Zed 16R but it broke so I was looking for an replacement. I am doing mostly vocal recording to premade music (Karaoke tracks) so my need for track count is not that great. Also someone with a guitar will sometimes come along, and keyboards. No drums though. So.. I was looking for a cheap and physical small, but good quality mixer for analog summing and processing in my home studio. This sells now for $373 in Norway ( about 4 000 NOK) I find this mixer interesting because of the insert points on every channels and also the mixbus insert. The Soundcraft mixer you mention is (at least here in Norway) $100 more expensive. I dont need the micpres or eq as I will use rack mounted Eq, Compressors and filters (warm audio, dbx, midas, SSL and etc. ) via insert point. This is the cheapest mixer I found that have all the insert points. I was looking at Mackie Onyx but it only have 4 inserts point and no main inserts and it is even more expensive. I decided I will go for the Mackie Onyx 12 as a tracking mixer using external preamps into line in. Because of the build in efx prosessor I can easy add this to the artist headphone mix. Nobody like to sing dry. And also it have USB Multitrack out on every channels and 2 stereo returns. Makes it perfect for tracking the things I do. What matters to me is that it is quiet and will not add too much noise into the mix. The "problems" you mention, are not problems for me, as high pass filter I have anywhere else in my chain, even Cubase have this if I am in a pinch. I will use line in only and I think Cubase will deliver a good signal to this mixer using my Audient evo16 interface. I will not use this mixer live. For small live gigs I use QSC Touch mix 16 (Digital)

@DcSoundOp

10 ай бұрын

Glad you like the mixer 👍🏼

You don't necessarily need the low-cut filters on the mixer mic input. Use really good microphones and, if needed, engage the built in low-cut filter and pad. Try filtering unwanted low frequency noises before entering the mixer to avoid overloading the microphone preamplifier input.

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Guess we should throw all of our Nuemann mics away ? How about the RE320 I use? You're asking people to choose the mics they use, in order to compensate for the shortcomings of a

@valentingheorghe1693

3 жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp I am not asking anyone anything. I simply said that you have an alternative to work with this particular mixer design. Sometimes we have to be able to work with what we have and be able to find the required solution. Yes, it would have been nice to see those filters built-in on this mixer, or any mixer for that matter, but they are not. Some Soundcraft models don't have these filters, also. Personally, I would like to se a direct out socket for every microphone input on every mixer, regardless of brand, but it is not the case these days. It's a Midas design decision and we have to work with it or to look somewhere else. No one is forcing us to buy or use an equipment we can't use or having difficulties to adjust with. Comfort matters to many.

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Your alternative was to use 'really good mics' which has nothing to do with high pass filters & to engage the pad on the mics too, which really has nothing to do with working around the lack of a HPF. External inline high pass filters for each channel would also exceed the cost of this mixer, by a good margin, so that's hardly practical. Given that, a typical band using SM58's for vocals and mics like sm57's for guitar amps and drums would be totally hosed trying to use this mixer on a small gig. You should also check out the part of the video again where I talk about those Soundcraft mixers you mention ;) Thanks for the messages Valentin 👊🏼

@valentingheorghe1693

3 жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp When I said "really good mics" I meant that you can use microphones that cost a bit more than others, but they have built-in low cut filters and pad capabilities. I would use these microphones even if the mixer would have built-in low-cut filters. On the other hand, why should I save money buying this mixer, knowing that I want those filters and direct outs on it from the start? Good equipment, with good capabilities, costs money, and here we have a mixer who is playing in other league, definitely not pro oriented. Me, personally, I live by this statement: fight the noise as close to the source.

Is it possible to use for churches or large halls? Pls send reply

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, it wouldn't be the most obvious choice... for the reasons that were pointed out in this video, but of course it will work.

Good review, I'm looking for a replacement sub desk for a church, for visiting musicians/bands to use, and not get involved with the main mixer, so simplicity is the name of the game here. For some of our visitors less controls would be good - no aux, no tone, & way more limited input gain range etc. I hear you when it comes to a high pass filter on the inputs, our main desk has them and they make a good difference on the lectern and other presenter mic's, just a pity the designers got it a bit wrong, as in when our priest gets stuck into the lectern and pushes it into the red, our MG20XU's filters bark quite badly. That desk has to handle weakly voiced old ladies all the way to a very active priest - quite often with the desk unattended, locked away in a console, hoping its dynamic compressors can give us a usable out - which mostly they do.

@DcSoundOp

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message Paul. Yeah the lack of HPF makes this one a hard choice for anything like what you are doing. This console is really better suited to line level mixing or sub-mixing, like for synths or keyboard players who don't need the HPF.

@paulstubbs7678

Жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp I can always add HPF at the main desk, the sub has no compressors etc, (nothing to get 'pumped' by stray subsonics) so as long as it does not go into the red, that can be sorted out down the track so to speak. Actually several of the singers stand back too far, so I'm seeking extra low end at times.

No hi-pass? No purchase!

Is it just me or is this just a soundcraft epm?

Which is the best audio mixer for Church?

@DcSoundOp

2 жыл бұрын

That depends on a huge amount of factors. Budget, how many inputs you need, how many outputs, what type of mixing you're doing with the console etc. If you're looking for a mixer in this price range for churches, the Allen & Heath ZED mixers are quite good and reliable, and if you can go a bit higher you can get into the Soundcraft Signature 12 mixer which are very usable mixers for house of worship settings.

@mrajesh1271

2 жыл бұрын

Just for 16 channel and music instruments 1 keyboard and pads

@mrajesh1271

2 жыл бұрын

Hall length 160 feet

It seems an odd product for Midas. With SSL making the Six console there's clearly a market for a high quality small format mixing desk. This clearly isn't it. To my mind Midas lost it with the original Venice. That's also an odd little console with some weird omissions of features you'd expect from a name like Midas.

@foreverseethe

2 жыл бұрын

What did they omit from the Venice?

I call it a Soundcraft copy

@motionentertainment452

3 жыл бұрын

Kml look so for real

No pad, no highpass, 60mm faders... no, thanks. That console is crippled by design. I really don't understand who this thing is for.

@voutzify

3 жыл бұрын

EQ Range is also a bad joke. The more I watch and look at this: It's not a midas. It says midas, yes, but that's 100% early 00's Behringer crap. I didn't yet get to the price for that thing, but it really does not matter: It's just so crippled that I would skip it at any price point.

Since Music group owns Behringer....it pretty much looks like an older Behringer console, with a different label.

@aaronho4242

3 жыл бұрын

Since the m32 and the x32 are the same I wouldn’t be suprised

We want Midas build another Venice F24 or f16 not this shit

I find it really sad that a console can be designed without high pass filters, pads, or aux masters. If they'd had the sense to include these, they'd have an excellent little mixer. Sadly, once manufacturers get assimilated by the behringer borg, any sense of reality goes out of the window. Very sad to see this happen to the once-great Midas.

Did you realize the price of this mixer? I hope you did not......

@DcSoundOp

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I understand, but I did not buy this mixer, it was only sent on loan for the videos I made and then returned to Music Tribe. Thanks for watching!

@gibson2623

8 ай бұрын

@@DcSoundOp It sounds great. I have one

Who is buying analogue consoles these days🤔

@DcSoundOp

3 жыл бұрын

Usually places where non-audio people need to use the gear regularly... schools, houses of worship, government buildings etc. Even more of a reason to give them things like mute lights. Great question!

@nilsrp

3 жыл бұрын

I am. I just bought a Soundcraft MH3 40 mono/4 stereo for under $1500.(And that was with the two racks full of gear too) This is a great console that I have worked hundreds of shows with over the years. And it works every day! Not like some of the digital consoles that can have a "bad" day, so that you need to have some replacement quick from the rental company to make the show. So yeah, I will buy a good analog console any day. It will save any show.

@dwmfty3111

3 жыл бұрын

@@DcSoundOp Hi. I found getting them on to a Allen & Heath qu the easiest transfer from analogue to digital or if budgets an issue the Mackie dl1608lt with the dock because most people know how to use an iPad.

@jaelawrence1456

3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking for one right now!

@centraliafuckcorruption

3 жыл бұрын

@@TempoDrift1480 you forgot about hipster pants

You complaint lots terrible.

@DcSoundOp

5 ай бұрын

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