Microsoft Surface Pro 11 OLED Review - Snapdragon CoPilot+ PC
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The 2024 Microsoft Surface Pro 11 CoPilot+ PC is what we’ve always wanted from this tablet-laptop hybrid: speed, battery life and low heat and noise. We look at the OLED Snapdragon X Elite version. Thanks to our sponsor Trend Micro's Premium Security Suite offers complete device and identity protection for up to 10 devices. Check it out here: 2ly.link/1ydp6 and use code LISA10 (case sensitive) for 10% off your purchase! As ever, the keyboard and Surface Slim Pen 2 are sold separately (we use the new Surface Pro Flex keyboard in this review). The tablet has WiFi 7, Windows Hello front camera, 10MP 4K rear camera and 5G versions will be available Fall 2024. This ARM-based Windows 11 PC’s performance give Apple M CPUs a run for your money (finally!).
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It's good hardware and priced accordingly. My biggest gripe is the outrageously priced keyboard/pen combo! $450 USD!!! YIKES!
@christianr.5868
Ай бұрын
At least you can use old cheaper keyboards, unlike the iPad Pro m4
@marijuana_smoker
Ай бұрын
Buy logitech one 😂 probably next month will be available
@MuhammadKharismawan
Ай бұрын
Just use older keyboards or heck even third party options.
@NoNameToHave
Ай бұрын
Waiting for Logi’s substitute.
@MrAdhiSuryana
Ай бұрын
Overpriced to me, have you seen last gen intel/amd prices? Spectre and Yoga can give you 10hrs battery life too
Lisa, the best of the best for more than 15 years!
The only review I've been waiting on for this and care about!! You are a star! Thank you!
Just watched your videos after a long time. Your hair looks so good on you, Lisa! Been a follower since 2013
Looking good! Love tablet PCs' versatility and freedom, I think Surface hardware has always been pinnacle, though Surface X's ARM worried me, your news here is great to hear :D Thank you! 🤗
Been waiting for this review
The one review I was waiting for!
Always love the side discussions of digital art!
I find your tshirt exception-al
It's been so long since I watched any tech videos and wow the new haircut looks awesome Lisa!!!
As always, great review. Hit the key notes, note the issues and wrap up with great, balanced evaluation. I have both the SP 11 and the latest iPad Pro and, while I love the iPad pencil, I actually find the Surface Pro Pen easier and better to use. You say potato, I say … . The t-shirts alone are worth subscribing. The awesome reviews are the cherry on top. Thanks so much.
Whenever I'm thinking about buying a new computer I always hunt you down on KZread lol! Lo and behold you uploaded this only 20 hours ago!
By default, HDR is effectively disabled even if you enable it; you need to turn off all auto brightness settings, turn off a power saving setting that silently disables HDR when on battery, and run the HDR calibration tool.
Thanks for your review
Hi Lisa. I watched part of your video three times, and then I double-checked on the Surface website to make sure. I want to ask you about the Surface Connect port. In your B-roll, it shows the power cord connecting to the Surface Connect port, and the location is just above the middle of the right side of the display. My question is, did you find this to be annoying, or get in the way, when it's just used for power supply? Second question, when you have a dock connected to the port, then you're more firmly anchored to your desk, and you need the cord plugged in to stay connected to storage drives or other things, you can still move the screen to different angles, but does it start to get in your line of sight and be annoying? Wouldn't it be better to have the port at the bottom edge of one side of the screen (in landscape)? (Compare this to the iPad with the Apple keyboard case, you can plug in to power and docks using the USB C port in the hinge of the keyboard rather than the USB C port on the edge of the display). :: Yes I know I'm being OCD about this, but did you find the cord getting in the way or the cord being visually distracting while using the screen? Thanks for your help! :)
Nice to see you again with your reviews. Keep it up and God bless.
Did you activate the new haircut in the dev options? Looks great. Thanks for the great review, as always. Have been watching you since Nokia N91 :)
What is the windows start up time? I have all ready set up my new snapdragon x elite 16 gb ram. (No app / program and documents loaded) Takes min 30 sec. to windows pin screen. Is ıt normal? What s yours?
I've been happily using a Yoga laptop for years plus my Surface Pro 8 for travel has been fine. But frankly my Galaxy tablet tends to be more than adequate as a travel companion for email, surfing, and streaming now that I'm retired. Thx for the review.
Love the t-shirt
Thanks for the review, is the OLED display a 10-bit display?
Could you please post the link to the website with apps supported by Windows On Arm?
Compared to the Oled Display on Ipad Pro M4? I've had some setious problems into my eyes in the past and I' m looking for the best Oled Display on the market. I' m also considering Samsung S9 Plus. Please consuder I' m mainly working in a dimly lit ambient. Thanks in advance.
Hi Lisa, pleased tell us your experience of using Premiere Pro on this 🙏 (And preferably a video :)))
Lisa and Surface Tablet review, name a more iconic duo
Closing in on 1 million subs 😮
Will I be able to connect my Wacom Mobilestudio pro 16 to this via Usb C?
Does Clip Studio Paint run on this? I keep seeing widly different answers when I ask Reddit.
Cool tshirt!
Hello! Subscribed in 2013 and have loved all your videos! You are one of my favourite tech KZreadrs! My PC monitor is a 42" LG 4K OLED, and when you zoomed in on the screen, I could see the digitizer screen door effect. So, yea, it's there. I would need to see it in person, to really know if it's something that would be too distracting to want to purchase. I hope you get the ASUS ProArt PZ13, when it becomes available. I would like to see a comparison :)
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Be mindful that you're not looking at the display directly in person. Cameras introduce moire patterns as do video compression twice over (export compression and then KZread compression) alter what you're seeing. Best to check one out in person.
@-The-Golden-God-
Ай бұрын
I'm looking for a tablet to use solely for illustration and browser based web design. I'm a Windows and Android user and I generally loathe Apple. I tested both devices today at the mall, having never used a Surface or iPad before. Unfortunately, I have to tip my hat to Apple; I felt that the iPad Pro screen is extremely impressive, particularly the etched glass version. I noticed the digitizer on the Surface straight away. The Apple Pen and keyboard also feel like they're much higher quality. I was all set to purchase the Surface 11, but now I'm utterly conflicted.
Can you provide the link of all the Windows on Arm software site that you presented? Thanks in advance
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
You can see the URL at the top, it's: armrepo.ver.lt/
@Dablakadaberri
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Loved the review
yeah glad to hear your opinion on the pen. I'm not an artist, but I also noticed that the iPad's pencil just feels better than the surface pen when messing around with both
@-The-Golden-God-
Ай бұрын
As an artist, that holds no love for Apple, I have to admit that the Apple Pencil is much nicer to use.
Beautiful Lisa….beautiful review as always….the lady knows her stuff!!!!
Great Video Lias, I got the OLED version. I didnt notice as bad PWM in this OLED. What do you think?
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Indeed, PWM seems well controlled here, usually our camera picks it up (and shows a rolling pattern across the display). None of that here.
Great review! From italy 🇮🇹😎
@chobanniyogurt
Ай бұрын
2-0
I always get confused on where exactly to turn off HDR and turn on SRGB. I get lost in Windows settings. Can you point me to how to do this? Wonderful video, as always! Thank you!
@xBINARYGODx
Ай бұрын
settings app has search - type HDR in it, and/or type SRGB
@onlysublime
Ай бұрын
right-click on your desktop and choose display settings. i'm going to give my recommended settings. turn off hdr first. set color profile to Vivid. click on brightness and turn off "change brightness automatically". turn off "change brightness based on content". turn off adaptive color.
@ultramegax
Ай бұрын
Windows Key + Alt + B is the button combination to turn HDR on and off without wading through menus.
Possible Zbrush tablet?
I wonder if it is possible to have a snapdragon laptop with a dedicated GPU in the future? Was this even mentioned by any manufacturer ?
Cool stuff coming from Qualcomm and Microsoft 👍🏻
The smile at the end .....
Respected Gigs pleas let me know can we install mt4 and run on surface pro 11 snapdragon
Can this run the application like photoshop and illustrator ??
I bought the 11 OLED after watching this review and many others. Slick hardware overall, but I have to agree with the concerns regarding the screen, and being able to see the digitizer layer or some sort of other screening effect that makes anything with a white or off-white background look muddy. I also have the Lenovo Slim 7x which has an OLED and an iPad Pro OLED, and I do not get nearly the same effect with either of those. I wonder if the issue only affects some Pro 11 OLED units? I'm going to reach out to Microsoft, but imagine I may end up returning it because I find it so distracting if they don't offer a replacement.
Detachable screen ?
Tried it out for one day and Lightroom lagged! It all depends on the file sizes and resolution of your camera. I have 61 megapixels and files are around 80mb big. Heavy delays when dragging the sliders. Might be easier for smaller files. Surface Pro 11 is great for surfing the web and Netflix. On the other hand, why would anyone waste so much money for that?
Try Lightroom Classic on this? Ouch. Granted, it’s all new and Adobe has some catching up to do, but I use it every day for biz… and had to go back to the Mac until things are sorted.☹
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Only Lightroom CC (Classic isn't native on ARM yet).
I used one in Best Buy and noticed the digitizer immediately. For $1,400 I don’t want to see it lol. It’s not visible on Apple tablets, nor on Samsung OLED tablets. Microsoft should have done better. It impacts the clarity of the screen especially on lighter color images.
Bruh for a split second there I thought unknowingly I have enabled the developer mode on my phone somehow 😂 that's a good one 👌
I wish it had an anti reflecting coating
Nice honest review. I bought the elite version as my Samsung S9 Ultra is just too big. I'm struggling with the OLED display on The Surface Pro...There is absolutely an issue with the screen door effect. Once you see it you can't unsee it. The whole display looks grainy and can be demonstrated side by side with another OLED device such as the Tab S9 Ultra. You must not have the best new glasses or a there are different screens 😀 Battery life is a welcome improvement.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
Ай бұрын
Apple Tandem OLED cannot be beaten
@williammaverick
Ай бұрын
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu It's not freakin Apple tech.. it's LG's tech and its already in cars years ago and now in Dell's XPS 13. Stop drinking that Apple koolaid and see what's real for once.
I kept mistaking the Developer Mode Enabled as an overlay...oops!
Need taht shirt! lol
You're right Lisa. The prices of accessories are getting more ridiculous nowadays!! And I'm talking about from all major manufacturers... Btw, I'm just wondering. Won't you review Xiaomi tablets? Like the Pad 6?
Bluetooth on the keyboard's a godsend - there are times it's good to have a surface pro (like this 7) in portrait mode propped on its 90 degree out stand, but even better if the keyboard still worked.
did you get a tan !?! you look amazing !!!
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Summertime is tan time!
Is the Surface all snapdragon going forward, or will there also be Intel versions?
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Looks like ARM unless Microsoft changes their mind in the future.
@andyH_England
Ай бұрын
They will have Surface Pro for business with Intel chips as ARM is unlikely to be adopted by businesses and Enterprise yet due to legacy app issues.
@billymania11
Ай бұрын
The fine lady is unaware that Microsoft has the Surface Pro 10 series with the Intel processor. I use the Surface Pro 9 and because I do enterprise development work, I will stay on the Intel processor.
@xpusostomos
Ай бұрын
@@billymania11 sure... But when you're talking about '10" and the new model is "11", it sounds like 10 is just a legacy model that maybe well never be updated. (?)
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
@@billymania11 MS sells a refreshed Intel Surface Pro via business channel. It is simply a CPU-refreshed Surface Pro 9. They have not announced new development for Intel based platforms at this time.
Can you supply more power or recharge faster on USB-C versus their connector?
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
Both max at 65 watts. You can use a higher wattage charger but it will regulate down to 65 watts.
@DonaldHawk
Ай бұрын
Some other videos mentioned a 39W Microsoft charger but that may be for lower end configurations
@mobiletechreview
Ай бұрын
@@DonaldHawk Right, it comes with a 39 watt charger, but supports fast charging with a 65 watt charger (either via the Surface Connector or USB-C).
16 GB of RAM at the base model. Apple forces you to get a one terabyte hard drive to get that much ram on an iPad.
I guess if you get it as a combo deal, the prices aren’t so bad
It will be interesting to see this model compared to the Lunar Lake one which I sure expect this winter.
@christianr.5868
Ай бұрын
Lunar lake seems really interesting tbh
I love surface products, but the price on the keyboard is just crazy, plus, I haven't had "great" experience with the keyboards in terms of durability. The light color ones tend to get dirty and stain easily, and all of them, despite the color, star breaking on the corners... I just don't know if they are worth it anymore =S
Can you test Adobe apps with it?
@christianr.5868
Ай бұрын
Photoshop and fresco are native apps right now and they run great. After effects and premiere are getting native ports this summer
@christianr.5868
Ай бұрын
Photoshop and fresco are native apps right now and they run great. After effects and premiere are getting native ports this summer
Even for me who mostly use Ms Office apps, the price is crazy especially the keyboard I saw last gen for almost half the price too, hard to recommend this 😢
@malch2843
Ай бұрын
At least you can use the last gen keyboard still, it did irk me that when I bought the new iPad pro i had to get a new keyboard and pencil. There are third party keyboards available too.
T shirt fools my brain into thinking the dialog box is a real time AR projection!
i bought 8840u tablet for 1k with 32gb and 1tb storage... Microsoft sells similar specs for 2400
Oh Hi Lisa , Jhonny loves you very very much 😂😂🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😅
I find it somewhat disappointing that battery life is around 8 hours. Better than old Surface but still not amazingly good for the new ARM processors.
It's a bummer seeing X86 get such a bad rep because Intel is behind TSMC in power efficiency and Intel still has a large market lead over AMD in the mobile space.
Way to go fr M$ callimg tjeir Translation layer PRISM .. 😂🎉😅 Guess the partnership with the 3 letter agiencies left its mark
Ok thks is great... but ill wait for Wacom to drop a snapdragon fablet 😊
Olen consumes more power? Strange.
@peterthepanda
Ай бұрын
Yes, when displaying white or bright content compared to LCD. OLED uses less power than LCD only when displaying black or dark content because the individual pixels are dimmed or turned off (each OLED pixel generates their own light, unlike LCD that has a separate backlight array).
@williammaverick
Ай бұрын
@@peterthepanda The difference in their power consumption between bright and dark colors is even disproportional as OLED consumes far more with bright colors and only a little less with dark ones compared to LCD. It is only with actual black that OLED really saves power more. Source: Notebookcheck's test on Razer Blade OLED.
Wish they‘d use the same glass Samsung uses on the S24 Ultra. The reflexions are killing the OLED advantage.
For $2100 it's a bit disappointing that the "Elite" processor is only their 3rd best. Imagine how competitive this Surface would be if it had one of their 3.8Ghz processors with better GPU performance on board.
x86 performance is "acceptable enough." Personally zero interest in these. I think the market share cap for X elite is 5%ish. AMD's AI 370 is going to crush these in most everything.
I’ve been using this machine for a week. My main takeaway: Windows is still a very clunky and non-uniform user experience, especially in tablet mode. The user needs to fiddle with too many settings to optimally take advantage of the hardware.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
Ай бұрын
Hence windows on a tablet sucks 😂 and why macOS on iPad will never happen
@AnkushNarula
Ай бұрын
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu macOS on a tablet is the dream of nerds and dorks who fetishize poorly conceived possibilities but will never take full advantage of any of them
Bad HDR performance is a deal breaker for me, Microsoft has a long ways of catching up to Apple in this regard.
At least they can make it fanless and with the half price they quoted now.
Only if I can install Linux!!!
Might still be KZread processing, but there is no audio.
@MauriceMay
Ай бұрын
It has audio now. Enjoy 😊
@ArthropodSpidey
Ай бұрын
Maybe you need hearing aids. Exciting times!
@jebaker2
Ай бұрын
Mine is fine
All real hardware runs #BSD.
These are throw away pcs like apple does them ... I dont like that. I dont like windows and the recall stuff to
Just imagine how snappy this thing could be if it didn't have to run Windows 11… 😢
@whatgaca
Ай бұрын
You would be able to run Linux ARM soon
Hard to catch up with your English for me unfortunately.
32GB of RAM available on the top end SKU. The enshittification of tech continues.
@Kylehudgins
Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the good old days - when all tablets had 64 gigs or more. We truly had it all. Personally, I blame capitalism.
@DouglasRosser
Ай бұрын
@@Kylehudgins This isn't a "tablet" running a phone OS it's an actual computer. The laptop I bought for my kid to use in high school had 16GB of RAM. She's 26 now.
@xBINARYGODx
Ай бұрын
32gb on the top end is not enshitifcation - for that vast majority of pc users, including gamers, 32 is great - if you need more, you don't get this or something like it, you get a workbook like thing, or rather, a thinkpad or a thinkpad competitor. most prebuilt PC's dont even have a 64gb options yet. so really, your complaining just to whine.
@Kylehudgins
Ай бұрын
@@DouglasRosser That’s funny, because it kinda looks like a tablet to me.
@DouglasRosser
Ай бұрын
@@Kylehudgins That you consider this statement a cogent opinion indicates that it really isn't and you should find a close friend to be your "tech person" when you feel like dropping money on stuff like this.
As impressive as all of this may be, the Surface Pro still has one huge bottleneck, the pen. It's such a let down. Perhaps Microsoft should start considering dropping it's own pen protocol in favor of something better.
It's unfortunate that Windows has turned into shareware, adware and spyware, and as such for the first time in my life I'm considering a macbook next, and if that works out I'll switch the desktop workstation too. I just don't trust MS at all anymore.
@lucasn0tch
Ай бұрын
Never forget what personal sacrifices Snowden took to shed light on Micro$oft's complacency with the NSA
@aiahmani6572
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@xBINARYGODx
Ай бұрын
bye - have a wonderful time!
@williammaverick
Ай бұрын
Cause going with a non-Windows OS while still using the same apps & going to the same websites will be any different huh. You really think Facebook, Google, Walmart & Amazon don't spy on you and track everything on your PC? Boy, you're in for a surprise.
@RidwanGosal
21 күн бұрын
I think it's way overblown. Every tech companies track your activities in manner that you aren't aware of, but only one succeeded in making everyone believe they don't track you at all.
ARM sleep is a very enticing feature after the past decade of terrible x86 sleep ability.
Keyboard and Pen is expensive. Kind of scam TBH, hard pass.
Too bad it runs Spyware, Malware and Adware disguised as an operating system, called Windows. 😂 If only it ran on some other operating system, say Linux…
@xBINARYGODx
Ай бұрын
bye - have a wonderful time!
@BR0KK85
Ай бұрын
And all in one package called PRISM 😅😂🎉
Do not buy it ,
Less than steller performance is unacceptable at a premium price point, this will only make Surface worse
They have awful support after a year or so - so I'll always say avoid
Now scared to use Microsoft products 😂 because of blue screen
I HATE tablets.. and these surfaces are only good on tables.. not on laps... why buy this shit?
@SuperPlastered
Ай бұрын
I use my surface on a table and a laptop table with a separate mouse area. No reason to hate on a windows device that rocks. You can even slip on a potable GPU and rock a game or two. Haters gonna hate.
@NizarNoor
Ай бұрын
Then don't buy it and st fu
@gzero26
Ай бұрын
@@NizarNoor Completely agree! just find it funny they came to SURFACE TABLET REVIEW VIDEO just to complain. Some people...I swear
@rez157
Ай бұрын
@@NizarNoor Me and most people will not...shithead.
@rez157
Ай бұрын
@@SuperPlastered yes I hate it, I have one and it sits on a self... it is called choise. We all don't have to be sheep.