Hey folks! Thanks for coming along on this Duo 2 trip to Dumbo! If you didn't get enough, you can experience the same day from a whole different perspective on David's video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYOny5iDXdqopMY.html

@lIIuminatl

2 жыл бұрын

Just watched them back to back. You two are a fantastic 'Duo'. I'll get my coat.

@rithwikbasrur3197

2 жыл бұрын

And now the trip is complete. You guys should really do a 2-part video the way you have done in the past with samsung and LG phones. It would be really fun to watch.

@TheUnDisputedDoc.G

2 жыл бұрын

I Honestly don't care about Photo Quality. I'm just Glad it doesn't have a Plastic Screen. I have Jabra 85 Elite Headphones & Soundcore Rave Neos for Big Bassed out speakers. That's way Better than a Fold in my book!!!

@verynameboi4121

2 жыл бұрын

When is the pixel 6 review?

@NeonVisual

2 жыл бұрын

I so wanted MS to do well for the from factor. At least it's not Windows 11

Mr.Mobile's notes about this phone can be summarised by a line fit for a silly romantic film: "I loved the idea of you more."

@emmanuelaguado9740

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, I can imagine myself crying over this line

@ahmedp800

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Simple yet very powerful line! Which movie is it from?

@RK-um9tu

2 жыл бұрын

So what you are saying is that you don't own a Duo nor have you ever touched one...

@nameless-user

2 жыл бұрын

@@RK-um9tu They never claimed to. It’s a summary of MrMobile’s video.

@nairocamilo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedp800 it is a generic trope-y quote that appears in some, more tragicomic, movies. Unfortunately, almost ironically, the only case I remember hearing that quote is from the Netflix TV series "Luke Cage"... An action series.

The fact that Microsoft added that huge camera bump that not only ruins its sleekness but also delivers a camera quality that's "just fine" is kinda sad and is quite a dealbreaker for me.

@nicx7785

2 жыл бұрын

It's my only real disappointment with it -- huge bump for photos that are so obviously years behind.

"..honest to Panos triple camera array prominently protruding from the phone's posterior..." :: Chef's kiss emoji:: Awesome video, bud! 🙌

@RohinNair

2 жыл бұрын

I feel my spine tingle with delight when Michael’s wordplay hits my ears 😌

@MarkSmithMCS

2 жыл бұрын

Inspired :-)

@michaelreynolds7091

2 жыл бұрын

THAT WITTY WORDPLAY WAS WONDERFUL. WOW

@NolanAlighieri

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a line straight outta LGR's mouth.

Like most Surface products I love the design and idea. I think a device that makes you crack it open to use it should cut down on mindless screen gazing, and you get a big workspace when you do use it. However it can't be easy taking an single screen OS that isn't yours and making it work well with 2 screens. I applaud MS for trying new things.

@andyH_England

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, techies applauded LG for their LG Wing and dual scree devices, but they dumpster dived sale-wise and were the final nail in the coffin of LG Smartphone. This is very niche and if you get too much wrong it becomes a black hole for MS. Innovation is only good if consumers buy it, otherwise it is just another big company wasting money. What I have learnt, that no other OEM will be thinking about doing dual display smartphones after LG and MS failures!

@ahmedp800

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyH_England I am currently using an LG Wing (Fold 1 before that), and to be honest, I like it alot. I only wish they went with a more powerful chipset instead of what's in it, for future proofing, also a dual speakers instead of one, otherwise, it is built well, and I love the swing mechanism, although the features and integration is limited due to lack of software development, which is understandable. It is really sad how LG smartphones folded, they almost always innovated and the LG Wing is a proof.

@IrenMasot

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point, and I really hope both consumers and tech reviewers keep this in mind.

@laserbeam3836

2 жыл бұрын

U R not a woman

@samuelsumbo7693

2 жыл бұрын

@@laserbeam3836 lol , that's ur comment to that that word of wisdom. ok . why d u fink that ?

I don't believe you mentioned it, but that excessive battery drain in the camera department could be due to the fact that you must have both screens open(unlike last year's duo) , therefore on, while shooting. I imagine that is a huge drain, unless you can turn the other one off of course.

MrMobile and TheUnlockr, my favorite *Duo*

@SonyEnthusiast

2 жыл бұрын

Oh

@TheUnlockr

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there

@thesmartI

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheUnlockr love it when you two colab!

Maybe it's just me, but having a dope camera just doesn't seem like it should be a priority in this form factor anyway

@syed2194

2 жыл бұрын

then don't make it interrupt the form factor.

@hk6926

2 жыл бұрын

@@syed2194 then you would cry for a better camera. Loving the duo 2, perfect in every sense,

@R-Jacky6698

2 жыл бұрын

I want a duo 1 but with all the upgrades in duo 2 except the camera

@calebmills1014

2 жыл бұрын

The minute I saw the camera bump on it I was out. I loved the Duo 1, but it was just too slow and buggy to justify the cost. I hoped the 2nd one would fix all the issues of the Duo 1, but it just made things worse imo. Yeah, it's a bit quicker, but there are still an enormous amount of bugs and they sacrificed their form factor to slap on an ok camera.

@calebmills1014

2 жыл бұрын

@@hk6926 A better camera was the least of my concerns about the Duo 2.

Not gonna lie, Seeing the TEASE of the Pixel 6 for your next review in this one has me HYPED!! Though I'm kinda bummed you got the regular 6 instead of Pro, really wanted to know if Googles best is worth it. But maybe you'll do a comparison or at least touch on it. Excited for what's to come!

As I posted on your colleagues video, I love this device for business use. Two screens gives the same features as my desk setup in my office while on the road. I was a business conference this weekend and the DUO 2 was extremely useful while taking notes, doing research, and taking pictures of the speakers to include in my OneNote notes. There is NOTHING like this device for business use. I would appreciate reviewers realizing the unique business cases and productivity of this device. As with all Android phones, it will take some time to work around the quirks of the OS, but MS is pushing the envelop with this device and is likely to create the definition of the productive business device for real business use. The beauty for me is that I can use it for play time and work time. No other device comes close to meeting both needs. In my humble opinion being in the software industry for 45 years and creating a software product that is now a multi-billion dollar product, we are watching MS solve a business use case that will define the future for people like me.

@krucial88

2 жыл бұрын

Just cause a reviewer don't mention it doesn't mean it can't be for YOUR needs , Of course it can fit into special needs for certain ppl but that's for the very few who fit in your category a phone that is for everyone sells better and at the end of the day when everyone and your neighbor has that phone ( Apple,Samsung) is when your doing something in the phone industry.

That external camera sticking out is such a deal breaker. The really good thing about the first Duo was how sleek its build was, and that camera has ruined it.

@mxbblife_mu

2 жыл бұрын

The first Duo didn't lay flat either with the Bumper on.

@tebhernandez

2 жыл бұрын

I've been using the duo 2 all day, it's not a big deal

@mehshutup3041

2 жыл бұрын

@@tebhernandez for you

@andrewgutierrez4841

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be using this thing with that pen, so I'd be willing to live with it if it was really good.

@extreme123dz

2 жыл бұрын

@@mehshutup3041 And for you too!

I do really want one, mainly due to the square-ish screens which remind me a lot of the original Galaxy Note which I still want today just for the screen aspect ratio

Hey Michael, you truly are the best tech story teller on this planet! I just love to watch your videos!!

@azaanandiworld

2 жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed SD2's review from Michael than any other Tuber.. way better than MKBHD, which felt he wasn't into the device at all but had to make a video.

@ThomasHoffDE

2 жыл бұрын

agree

@briancaster2876

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why but I read that as "best tech sailor" it really confused me for a second.

This is such an awesome tech review; rather more like an engaging story really than a just an outright review. Can't wait to watch more of your vids!

The fact that you're willing to hero watching the device into the new year is why you're a trustworthy reviewer. You're honestly giving the device a chance to shine at its best.

Man I love the aesthetics of this. But the camera weakness and missing middle between the screens is no good. After using the Galaxy Fold 2 and now 3, I think the only better form factor will be the "unrollable." Can't wait to see one of those!!

@ForgingMyLife

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Duo is king.

@hk6926

2 жыл бұрын

I had fold 3 but sold it in favor of duo 2. At least for me duo 2 is so much better .

@pkpnyt4711

2 жыл бұрын

Agree to disagree that the Duo is better then the Fold 3. It can connect to Windows seamlessly, has better cameras, longer battery life, can multitask (4-5 windows even more) with no issues, better 120 Hz screen and also brighter (over 1200 nits) for outside work, IP68 rated, software is updated every 1-3 months with software support for 4 years makes it a hands down better multi tasking gadget.

@hk6926

2 жыл бұрын

@@pkpnyt4711 we are all different . For fold 3 plastic screen and strange aspect ratio kills it . Doesn’t mean it’s a bad device . Just I like duo 2 so much better .

@wokenfree

2 жыл бұрын

@@hk6926 How do you deal with the touch lag and software bugs?

Another very enjoyable video, the perfect accompaniment to the mornings first cup of coffe. Dumbo looks like an interesting place to visit, a new public library is always very welcome, love when you and David get out together. Have a great day.

Awesome first look and review. Will now watch David's, wanted to know his side and perspective. Thanks! More power!

Amazing device. I am so impressed with it. The app pair split screen feature in brilliant. Messages with OneNote, and messages with phone are two of my favourite pairs. Unbelievably useful for business. The surface pen 2 with the swift keyboard is super accurate and smooth. Even better than the stylus on the note 20. I have also realised that the camera module has a surprising benefit of providing a tactile cue to easily orient the device quickly (often a challenge with tablets and even many phones where you need to look and check if the device is upside down). MS seem to be supporting it right out of the box which is nice and a must for it to take off. The recent android split screen OS news is also a positive sign that this form has real merits. Many reviewers (some of the biggest surprisingly) are making the mistake of comparing this to a traditional tablet and it's painful to watch. It's not intended that way at all.

I can't even explain how much I appreciate Mr mobile and the quality of the videos. And the honesty.

Once again, it’s the writing that set you apart from all others @MrMobile! Clever, thoughtful and smart. You were the very first KZreadr I subscribed to and you still set the standard for quality videos along with great content.

My guy Mr. Mobile always makes the day go by smoother with a dope tech vid. Keep em coming!

I'm used to even bad new cameras looking better than my S7 Edge, so when the camera isn't even that good, it really stands out.

@kylesagley6524

2 жыл бұрын

I reminded myself of this when people were ragging on the fold 3 reusing the same cameras from the fold 2. I am upgrading from a note 9. Both the fold 2 and 3 phones have amazing camera setups vs my note 9.

@spiritual5750

2 жыл бұрын

Stupid FOMO taking over. Chill

@tyronejohnson409

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylesagley6524 🙏🏿

Considering how excellent the cameras were in Lumia flagship line, even during Microsoft's ownership, the mediocre camera on the Duo 2 kinda boggles my mind lol

@angelofigueira7841

2 жыл бұрын

Well on the lumias they controlled the software, now they dont.

@carlosgarciasanchez

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelofigueira7841 In which way don't they control the software? Are you talking about Android? Because that has nothing to do with the camera quality on their phones, or the camera software they use.

@sushimshah2896

2 жыл бұрын

True, but I guess we'll never have anything like this Lumias be it in terms of hardware or software (not just cameras, the whole phone) At least I'm glad that I've experienced WP (had 3 devices in my family) & would in fact still buy some more Nokias (Lumias and the 808 & N9,etc ) once I start earning, because I certainly couldn't risk buying a new 950XL as a primary in 2021. Sadly some people haven't experienced WP at all.

@liftusup9208

2 жыл бұрын

@@sushimshah2896 iPhone? I really liked MeeGo though. It was ahead of Android back then.

@kornkernel2232

2 жыл бұрын

Well the engineers used to work with Pure View isn't there at Microsoft anymore, not sure if they kept the patents assuming they are still relevant since other OEM's make better smartphone camera experience now, that they either match or surpass Lumias back in the day. It was said that Microsoft hired some Japanese company to do computational photography to improve the Duo, but clearly still needs more more, but also it is vastly improved from the first one that now it is perfectly usable, not on-par with the big boys but at least more than usable. Hopefully more software updates and on version 3 that can do massive improvements. Maybe it also needs better hardware as well.

I just love that phrase:"architecturally entrancing but acoustically transparent holes" 🙂

I really do love your videos how much effort and time you put into. Top quality.

1:50 hey. It's iconic. Like the Surface Book teardrop 😂

The surface duo 2 just came out today in japan. Before I bought one I was looking for a review but every other “review” video I found were only rants about why they hate the device. This video articulates every aspect (the good and the bad) with a fair point of view. Thanks for the great video!

always appreciate your reviews Mr Mobile

Yourself and The Unlokr are the only tech gurus bringing this BRILLIANT format. Outstanding!!!

Really hope the software can catch up to the hardware this time around. It looks better than ever, and is still my preferred "foldable" device were I get one.

So I never liked when one plus had those pop up cameras however this phone would have been the perfect application of that camera. The fact that it can't close like the original surface because of the camera bump makes me feel like they just put a bunch of parts together

@impulsesystems

2 жыл бұрын

I see your point. The OP pop-up camera was only for the selfie camera, so it's not used too much. It works though!

@deanontheinterwebs

2 жыл бұрын

Yes to have it like the Zenfone 8 Flip camera would be quite awesome.

@kenbee1957

2 жыл бұрын

Pop up camera is not in any way a solution for the protruding camera at the back though. As mentioned in the video, there is just simply no way possible of getting a main, telephoto and wide camera into anything that isn't a large bump. And Microsoft already found from the first generation that people just can not pay for a phone that doesn't have those

@princessponee7916

2 жыл бұрын

Ive never used the popup cam on the oneplus 7t(m), its a good enough design for those that dont want the selfie cam

8:03 your eyes said it all Michael, "I'm never having kids" lol

I was so hyped about the first one and then i saw the reviews. Now that they didnt fix the whole package i am thankful for getting the Z Fold 3 and waiting for the Duo 3. I Love Microsoft and would love to have a Windows like Launcher on it for a PC experience...

@atodamadre3197

2 жыл бұрын

This things gonna tank. There won't be a Duo 3

Damn, I've been waiting for them to come out with a new DS.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

Microsoft DS.

@DeviousAmigo

2 жыл бұрын

Xbox DS

The best technology story-teller.

Bless you, you must have been fairly hammered to forget a tripod 😅 unless it was a tiny one. Also David is just adorable!!! ❤️

Hallo Mr Fisher. Your videos and reviews are always great!!!! I enjoy them

Imagine the camera module was magnetically detachable, with some exposed connectors. to have the camera as an option and keep the sleek design

@abdoumenouer7762

2 жыл бұрын

​@@aidancommenting I believe in the early prototypes of the first Duo, there was a round hole in the back, it's possible that they thought about making the cutout house a camera and keep it secured.

Mr. Fisher.. I will give it to you.. out of all the reviews I have been reading and watching, yours has come out to be the best yet. With almost all the others, there is some information here and there that I wanted the reviewer to talk about. Yours feels complete and satisfying.

As always, the best tech reviewer out there!

Wait, are we already at Duo 2? Man I don't know if tech is moving fast or just I'm too slow to catch up... Great review Michael, as always. Keep up the good work, you're a gem.

Your use of words 🔥 thanks for another great review.

Great review. Yours feel so informal and personal.

I wish I had the space and time to buy all the great tech out there.

Perfect review channel 👌 👏 i love it, every detail

Always enjoy Fisher's top notch work. Bravo.

288mb stability /bug fix update just came out. Haven't noticed the issue with swiping up to get to the home screen... But we will see

@luckysxm

2 жыл бұрын

Never had that issue with the first Duo. But I don't swipe up from outside the screen, I swipe from the white bar at the bottom. Works everytime. For me it's not even a workaround. That's how I do it naturally.

Why is Microsoft not thinking through before launching devices with buggy software?? Its so weird that should happen in 2021.. So agree with that statement Michael! Love your videos man. ❤️❤️❤️

@pkpnyt4711

2 жыл бұрын

Microsoft launchiing buggy software?!? OMFG! When did they release software that didn't have a bug? Lol!

Another solid review. I cant wait for the pixel 6 pro review. Extremely curious how the brightness is compared to my pixel 5, definitely looking to upgrade to the pro

I think Microsoft should have doubled down on making the last design better. Instead of making it a wedge with the camera bump.

I like all the Pixel 6 teasing in this, I'm looking forward to that review!

3:38 Pixel 6 👀

basically michael is saying get the fold 3..great review as always

Mr. Mobile is one of the best tech reviewers on KZread

3:49 what is going on with that WOHHH I'm shooketh 😂

Thanks Mr Mobile once again fantastic video....👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Thank you for the constant thoroughness in your reviews

On Marques’s video I saw a comment that said “designing a phone after a book is like designing a car after a horse”

@alexandersinclair

2 жыл бұрын

And it was a stupid analogy there.

My primary problem is I want to carry ONE device. At this point I can do everything on my phone except modify Microsoft Word documents with the full array of editing- the apps just don't allow that. Does the duo allow that?

Guess I'll be waiting till it drops to 650 again.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. 😂

@LEV1ATAN

2 жыл бұрын

Me too haha

Thanks for the video Mr mobile.

I like how you balance work and friendship. Been a fan of you since Windows Phone. God I miss the consistent Metro UI WP 7 era. guess the world will never have a consistent experience any more.

I love these kind of phones as daily drivers since I mostly use calendar, keep, gmail and other productive apps but uh...those bugs..

Brilliant as always.

I like that you used it as designed; two screens side by side, instead of trying to use as one big screen. Too bad the great hardware is let down by poor software.

@NeonVisual

2 жыл бұрын

Microsoft havn't put out any finished software for over a decade now. It's always just a broken mess of trying to fix previous issues, creating more problems in the process. I think windows 7 was the last time consumers wanted to use MS software, but even that was a fix for previous stupid decisions no one can understand or reason with.

0:59 I’m influencing so much…. 😂 pleasure meeting you Michael!

@ericperez2164

2 жыл бұрын

I had to rewatch your bit twice. Love ur fashion advice man! keep up the good work you deserve it

Mr mobile reviews are always unique 👍👍

I'll want one when they offer version without a camera bump. no external camera fine by me. was my position then, is my position now.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

It's called the 1st gen Surface Duo.

@larrymarso4492

2 жыл бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M owner of the Duo 1, still awaiting the 1st of 3-years of OS updates promised. if Duo 1 is abandoned, I'd still upgrade, but not with a bolt-on absurdity I'll never use.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

@@larrymarso4492 Wow. What version of Android are you still stuck on?

@larrymarso4492

2 жыл бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M running 10 on my Duo. 12 on my pixel 4XL.

@mxnjones

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure many others share such an opinion. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Surface Duo 2 now supports Surface Slim Pen 2's haptic feedback

Really beautiful device and out of ordinary . Very tempted to ditch my fold 3 and get this one.

@veryboringname.

2 жыл бұрын

I had the original Surface Duo and now a Fold 3. I find the Surface Duo's screens better for running two apps side by side, but if I prefer using one app full screen (e.g. web browsing, reading a pdf or document, reading a long email), the single large screen on the Fold3 is better.

@hk6926

2 жыл бұрын

@@veryboringname. agreed and a very sensible comment . I went with duo 2 . I just don’t like the plastic feeling on the screen and also the width . But both are great devices for their own .

A couple of those device shots reminded me of the Motorola Backflip from years gone by!

I really do love tech but I have to say, your production style, review quality and voice would make me happily watch your videos even if I didn’t have any real interest in the products you review. Keep up the great work…..

I'm impressed at leaving that chonk of a tripod behind! I have the physically similar 3221WN from back when the company still used the Bogen name in the US. I'm glad for the review and disappointed in the device. I'll be looking to replace my Pixel 3 XL sometime soon and this was an outside possibility but with these issues...

@ronniemcknight3174

2 жыл бұрын

If your current device is a Pixel 3 XL, then this device was probably not going to be a good fit for you anyways. Honestly, I think this device functions differently than the previous and there is a bit of a learning curve, making it even less likely the right fit for Pixel owners where simplicity and ease of use out of the box is priority.

Fantastic! Thanks 🙏

duo’s back!

I feel for Microsoft. The hardware is still gorgeous and filled with cleverness, but they're handicapping it so badly with poor software. Something they might have been able to get away with just a few years ago, but we're on the 3rd generation Galaxy Fold now. I really hope they get it together though.

@brianwolters7560

2 жыл бұрын

Yes...even with the "December Update", the software is still a mess...some "super fans" will say I'm wrong but since trying to use it day to day, the bugs/crashes are show stoppers.

I love watching these type of reviews on my z fold 3. It's a great phone tbh, I have little to no problems with it

Your videos are top notch!

what weather app/widget are you using and what wallpaper are you using on your surface duo 2?

@arturohernandez7058

2 жыл бұрын

I also would like to know what wallpaper is he using. :O

Great video. I think I’ll give the duo a miss! I think there’s just so many ways this device could be better/look better. Does it really need those huge bezels? I’m pretty sure you could easily get another inch on the screen there. For me I think something like the z fold would be better. See what next year brings.

@Cooe.

5 ай бұрын

... It'd be literally impossible to hold without top & bottom bezels.

A damning review from such a champion of foldables.

As a point of interest, if you disable google photo sync does it maintain a bit longer battery if that was one of the main culprits?

Liked the honesty as always. I emotionally want to buy one every time I see one, these help keep the dollars in the wallet. I think for version 3 they can fix the cheese wedge issue by making the left screen pivot on the outer hinge ala Sony vaio flip laptops. That way you could have a flat screen sandwich with the display on the outside.

0:37 shot on surface duo 2. I like it 😂👌

I have been interested in this concept since the Surface Duo 1, but it was so buggy, expensive, and under specced that I decided to wait until the second one to come out(as you recall the first Samsung Fold wasn't great either). Then last year the Duo 2 came out which I have been enamored with but it was expensive and laggy at launch(based on the reviews at the time) so again I decided to wait. However after several months with the price drop and the multiple software updates, I see that the re-reviews have said it is really good now so I decided about getting it as my back-up device(I am using a Fold 3 as my primary device). I found it on Swappa for $870 for the 256GB in mint condition with a skin on it and screen protectors on it. So I pounced on it and I look forward to getting my hands on it and using it. I just can't get enough of new tech, and I don't think I can go back to the candy bar/slab phones again. 📱📱🤳🤳

10:09 - OMG that flicker!! I'm sure you can't see it IRL but I'll bet you can perceive it!

Realistic is the key. lovely review. great phone with bugs & lags not needed for that amount spent on a 2021 phone😇

I love it I will buy 5 for my family for christmas.

Do we have an e-reader in this form factor yet?

@Blox282

2 жыл бұрын

The first duo can be found for about $400 USD

@bairnonessie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blox282 Sure, but sometimes you want something that you got have to muck around with, just open up, resume your book, and not die on you after 3.hapters...

@Blox282

2 жыл бұрын

@@bairnonessie The original Duo has decent battery life if all you’re doing is reading.

And I love this phone to the death in the same rate I hate it because it's still far from perfection. Being early adopter sucks, but let's give this concept two or three more spins and it certainly will be in a much better state.

@kenbee1957

2 жыл бұрын

From the look of things, it probably will not survive for another spin after this one

@Rafa-Silva-Alt

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenbee1957 At least if it inspire better alternatives, it already did its job =)

80% tech review + 20% food review = Microsoft Surface Duo 2 Review

Another great video. Thank you

Hope I'll find a travelling buddy like Michael one day😂

Eagerly awaiting your pixel 6 review!!!

"Talking on a cheese wedge" So funny

Thanks for the objective review! I agree the bugs are annoying. But some reviewers showed their ignorance by attacking the concept.

Love the look of what they're going for but need better performance for that price. Thanks for sharing.

That is amazing 👏

Hi MrMobile, I think it's worth for Microsoft to give another go at the duo. It's such a great concept, but it seems that they didn't evolved from the last model. :)