Microsoft Saved Apple - The Biggest Myth in Tech History

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I'm sure we've all heard it at least once: "Microsoft saved Apple from Bankruptcy in 1997." It refers to an investment Microsoft made in Apple that was announced at Macworld 1997, not long after Steve Jobs returned to the company. But this depiction of events has been heavily mythologized over the years. The truth is, even though Apple was going bankrupt, they didn't need Microsoft's help to stay around. And today's video explains why!
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  • @cakedon
    @cakedon3 жыл бұрын

    Michael MJD: The best documentaries about tech topics under the interwebs.

  • @Mario583a

    @Mario583a

    3 жыл бұрын

    LGR: Hey.

  • @piniokwilku2282

    @piniokwilku2282

    3 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @lobu-rn8112

    @lobu-rn8112

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're just spittin' facts

  • @bitterjames

    @bitterjames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mario583a both are good, I don't see why he should be brought up as if he is somehow better than MJD.

  • @Dimondminer11

    @Dimondminer11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe even as good as LGR

  • @dungeonseeker3087
    @dungeonseeker30873 жыл бұрын

    Imagine how the guy who made that comment feels after getting destroyed so succinctly and vehemently.

  • @poeterritory

    @poeterritory

    3 жыл бұрын

    He'd (or she'd) be proud they inspired such a great video. :)

  • @ALPHABYTE94

    @ALPHABYTE94

    3 жыл бұрын

    not Microsoft fault that windows was and is the best and other OS suck

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ALPHABYTE94 Windows is good yes but not good for EVERY use case.

  • @johnny6437

    @johnny6437

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ALPHABYTE94 Fix your f king broken English

  • @pe_w

    @pe_w

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ALPHABYTE94 if you like your data being sold, and a bloated OS. I use arch btw

  • @apetersenTV
    @apetersenTV3 жыл бұрын

    The best quote of this whole video would definitely be at 13:07: "Giving money to a smaller company (to keep them in business) *DOES NOT PROVE YOU ARE NOT A MONOPOLY."* Best tech documentary I've ever watched on KZread.

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    3 жыл бұрын

    This has been known in various economist circles since at least the 1950s

  • @runninginthe90s75

    @runninginthe90s75

    Жыл бұрын

    Michael MJD is the most fraud Trashtuber aka youtuber who forces his narrative to try to change history. This whole video is just fraud!!!

  • @robertrotman7730

    @robertrotman7730

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@MichaelMJDThis quote needs to be a shirt😊

  • @under6075

    @under6075

    Ай бұрын

    "google looking nervously at mozilla"

  • @melonademan5639
    @melonademan56393 жыл бұрын

    It’s depressing that Michael has to put a disclaimer at the beginning of the video telling people that he isn’t an Apple Sheep or whatever. People can be so needlessly toxic these days simply because of a video or anything else relating to Apple or simply just mentioning it... 🙄

  • @linuxameteur

    @linuxameteur

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was this bruh who made a video using the iPhone's built in screen recorder, which you can only stop by swiping up and all of that. Now there was this idiot who decided to call him out for "flexing." The nerve of some people smh

  • @bmhater1283

    @bmhater1283

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@linuxameteur Yet, why in the absolute hell are dumbasses calling Apple users "Sheep"? They have wool in their phones or something?

  • @misterkuda704

    @misterkuda704

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Soumodeep Guha not one of them, even if I have an iPhone 6s I still respect other brands

  • @Srbo2

    @Srbo2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hate those kind of people who just call everyone toxic for no reason at all. I use an iPhone and some other Apple products but I respect other companies. I really do not care if someone uses an iPhone or Android or whatever.

  • @slashtiger1

    @slashtiger1

    3 жыл бұрын

    IKR? Just look at the American Elections debacle surrounding a certain figure who still doesn't concede defeat, and neither do those who 'support' his movement... If anything demonstrates the toxicity of people, it is this whole stream of events, with the breach of the Capitol as its ultimate low... Here's a unpartisan European praying for the US to safely and soundly resolve this situation. Even if it might take years...

  • @contentplex
    @contentplex3 жыл бұрын

    This video was worth my 24:47 minutes. This is a well-made documentary.

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it! Thanks so much!

  • @smg5productions630

    @smg5productions630

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelMJD amen to what you said about microsoft and I am not a apple fan and this just proves that he is not defending Apple he is just setting things straight

  • @ainanation5707

    @ainanation5707

    2 жыл бұрын

    2,447 minutes?

  • @gyaaizen

    @gyaaizen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ainanation5707 24 minutes and 47 seconds.

  • @Napoleonic_S

    @Napoleonic_S

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelMJD So given that today all of windows, Mac and android devices are shipped with their makers' own default web browsers, I take it that the US govt has given up on enforcing anti monopolistic behaviors in such a thing? Or is it because there was a major shift in the perception for bundling web browsers into OS?

  • @MaskedGEEK
    @MaskedGEEK3 жыл бұрын

    I knew that the anti-trust lawsuit had nothing to do with Apple, and I vaguely remembered some kind of lawsuit between Microsoft and Apple involving piracy. Thank you for clarifying it Michael. 😁👍

  • @firestriker3580

    @firestriker3580

    12 күн бұрын

    False, also that lawsuit between Microsoft and apple was completely bullcrap because apple stole xerox. Also the antitrust lawsuit had everything to do with apple

  • @riptilius619
    @riptilius6193 жыл бұрын

    My knowledge about Apple's end 90's history, has been incredibly increased after I watched your video!:)

  • @rogehmarbi
    @rogehmarbi3 жыл бұрын

    The fact they called $150 MILLION worth of money only as "symbolic" and "public relations only" sends shivers down my spine. Those big players really have a lot of cash aren't they? Also, this is the best retrospective video I've ever seen around here, hands down. Clear, concise, sound, really well edited. Extremely well made.

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I appreciate it : )

  • @craigkoller515
    @craigkoller5153 жыл бұрын

    Yup. This is how it went down. Video for Windows was a joke, then allofasudden it got usable... hmm. Apple was a jumbled mess of different technologies and initiatives that Jobs had to wrangle, but they DID have some pretty exciting tech stashed away in different corners. And Quicktime was a jewel in the crown. Quicktime definitely helped save Apple for numerous reasons.

  • @jmtrad1906
    @jmtrad19063 жыл бұрын

    13:08 Google Chrome looking at Firefox *sweating*

  • @andreaskostis4806

    @andreaskostis4806

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's so true that I don't have anything to say

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m

    @user-xr3rb6pn9m

    3 жыл бұрын

    Google is actually doing the same exact thing that Microsoft allegedly did to Apple (which is, according to this video, if not true). They have been pumping millions in Mozilla to keep Firefox afloat, just to avoid accusations of being a monopoly. But this year they decided not to play good guys anymore and stopped the funding, and I'm not at all sure how Firefox will survive that

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I'm not the only one that recognises this

  • @rcmero

    @rcmero

    3 жыл бұрын

    And then Google is being forced to include a web browser selection screen when setting up the Android operating system. This was after Microsoft was forced to do the same thing on Windows. You know what they say, history is prone to repeating itself.

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-xr3rb6pn9m isn’t this just the Firefox search referral payment crumbs?

  • @mindright9771
    @mindright97713 жыл бұрын

    Well said. I was living right in the middle of this whole ordeal with Apple and Microsoft’s Antitrust investigation. I was working as a beta tester for Stac Electronics at the time. This was another company Microsoft attempted to shaft by stealing their patented disk doubling technology from as well as squeezing Netscape right out of the browser market. Netscape, of whom I also did work for, was a highly successful internet browser company of which Microsoft completely miscalculated as they totally overlooked the internet’s significance at the time.. Microsoft had to do something quick which meant pushing their Internet Explorer Software on OEM’s and bundling their browser into Windows for free in order to kill Netscape’s $39.99 software charge. Microsoft was a big behemoth and a bully so I was glad the DoJ stepped in and scared Microsoft straight (to an extent). It amazes me that people born after the fact think they know more about what was going on during this time period when I lived and worked right in the middle of it all. Your story is the most factual, in-depth and to the point I have read concerning what actually happened. You certainly did your homework and I commend you for your thoroughness and unbiased reporting.

  • @fnjesusfreak

    @fnjesusfreak

    3 жыл бұрын

    In order to keep up with Microsoft, both IBM and Digital Research licensed Stacker for their versions of DOS. I have to wonder if Microsoft had a hand in destroying Central Point Software and reducing the importance of Symantec in the industry.

  • @xarin42

    @xarin42

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, some of the people who get it wrong were there as well.I don't think age is the problem so much as bad news article research and rumors leading to mass misinformation.

  • @us-tesla-2023-event

    @us-tesla-2023-event

    Жыл бұрын

    8

  • @whatr0

    @whatr0

    Жыл бұрын

    I think Bill Gates managing to massively clean up his image post-Microsoft made a lot of people forget just how shitty Microsoft were in the 90s and 2000s

  • @loschwahn723

    @loschwahn723

    11 ай бұрын

    software was never technology - learn the diff.friends

  • @bazboo1284
    @bazboo12843 жыл бұрын

    Government: Split up, your too big. Microsoft: No worries, Xbox 😎

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Artem Katerynych No.

  • @oliverb.8995

    @oliverb.8995

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ananttiwari1337 Its youre, not your.

  • @SuussyBakka

    @SuussyBakka

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fanfic lol

  • @justinianthegreatandnerd6377

    @justinianthegreatandnerd6377

    2 жыл бұрын

    based.

  • @Vessick

    @Vessick

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Artem Katerynych yeu'ro*

  • @Dhamerian
    @Dhamerian3 жыл бұрын

    The more you know! The myth of the Microsoft investment was the story i was always told by magazines and other KZreadrs over the last years, awesome to hear a clarification on the matter with more details. Great job on the investigation and editing!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @harshmotwani8084
    @harshmotwani80843 жыл бұрын

    This is probably one of the most widely accepted misconceptions in the world! Even some of the most well informed experts count this as a fact! Glad you cleared the air.

  • @StevenSmyth
    @StevenSmyth3 жыл бұрын

    Michael this video is spot on, but Steve always spun it like MS saved Apple, so he could increase the company's street cred in the industry. When Time magazine reported on the deal, Steve was on the cover next to the caption, "Bill, Thank you. The world's a better place." They did accurately report that Apple was still in trouble, and they would have to pivot. Fortunately, Steve cut the product line and introduced the iMac and the PowerBook G3.

  • @runninginthe90s75

    @runninginthe90s75

    Жыл бұрын

    This video was made to faking history. Ban this video and this fraud channel for spreading bullshit false information.

  • @AnFunctionArray

    @AnFunctionArray

    Жыл бұрын

    Well there must be some truth in any lie (or at least factual basis - even if unrelated).

  • @bearthechair2789
    @bearthechair27893 жыл бұрын

    Moral of the story: Microsoft didn't save Apple, Steve Jobs did

  • @Robersora
    @Robersora3 жыл бұрын

    I only ever heard about this rumor in passing and was like "this makes no sense" Thanks for clearing this up. Also, mega-groovy outro!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching!

  • @eskai6893
    @eskai68933 жыл бұрын

    The quality of your videos is amazing. As someone born in the year 2000, I felt like I knew little to nothing about the history of technology prior to 2010, but watching your videos since I discovered the channel some months ago has really taught me a lot.

  • @xorcist6898
    @xorcist68983 жыл бұрын

    never even knew of these events at all, but I can really just 100% tell that you know what you're talking about. excellent video.

  • @St0rmcrash
    @St0rmcrash3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. The Jobs statement about being 90 days from bankruptcy might be somewhat hyperbolic, but from accounts I've read there was a point where Gil Amelio really was racing the clock to complete a round of bond sale (debentures) before Apple ran out of cash on hand and would have been forced to file for bankruptcy. They got a bit of a break when sales picked up but it was still a close run thing. The timescale for the sale was extremely compressed to the point Amelio couldn't do the normal sales pitch trips and had to do it in one bit conference call to investors

  • @kristiantodorov5080
    @kristiantodorov50803 жыл бұрын

    why do I learn more from these videos than school? anyways, nice video!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @markusTegelane

    @markusTegelane

    3 жыл бұрын

    since you clicked on the video, you are probably interested in the topic, which helps with learning

  • @lamasu8060

    @lamasu8060

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wadewilson6628 if you pay attention, you learn, you prolly dont.

  • @MirekFe

    @MirekFe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lamasu8060 How can you pay attention when a teacher sounds like a robot? These videos, are alive. School teachers are not (usually).

  • @lamasu8060

    @lamasu8060

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MirekFe videos are inanimate, if you paid attention in school you would know that, however school teachers are alive. So if they sound robotic, just pay attention if you actually wanna be someone in life.

  • @DeepfriedChips
    @DeepfriedChips3 жыл бұрын

    “With more than 200 upvotes” Hey Michael, this ain’t reddit

  • @acerIOstream

    @acerIOstream

    3 жыл бұрын

    buh my updoots

  • @MSX98FMDnB

    @MSX98FMDnB

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@acerIOstream buh mont !

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@acerIOstream give updoot 😃😀😀😃😄😄😳👍🏼

  • @weegeenumberone2

    @weegeenumberone2

    3 жыл бұрын

    free updoot free upvoot free upvote

  • @marct.g.5468
    @marct.g.54683 жыл бұрын

    Ok, we can all agree the video was cool and educational. But what was even more cooler was the outro.

  • @TheiTunesFanboy
    @TheiTunesFanboy2 жыл бұрын

    Another tech myth you should do a video about is the iOS 7 controversy. Many people believe that Steve Jobs’s departure is what causes the design to change. However, the iOS/MacOS designer, Scott Forstall, was fired for not signing the apology letter that Apple gave after Apple Maps released (and was buggy.). The designer was replaced by Johnny I’ve, who preferred the flat design.

  • @Beefnhammer
    @Beefnhammer Жыл бұрын

    This is all correct. I'm the furthest thing from an Apple fan, but what saved them was Steve Jobs and his leadership, as well as the first totally new product Apple developed under Jobs: the iPod. Apple wouldn't be what they are today without that thing.

  • @airfixer9461
    @airfixer94613 жыл бұрын

    Very well researched & very well explained, well done Michael....a very high information quality standard as always

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @mtge
    @mtge3 жыл бұрын

    And also, no one completed the Video right now.

  • @pianomanhere
    @pianomanhere Жыл бұрын

    Michael: I started watching some of your videos a few days ago and now I'm bingeing on them. Regarding this one, in particular, you have untangled a knotted ball of yarn regarding the interplay among the antitrust suit, the patent disputes and the money and settlement issues with all the litigation. Clarity and demystification were exactly what these entire affairs needed and I thank you for it.

  • @jong.7944
    @jong.79448 ай бұрын

    As a young kid when these events happened, I was a bit of an Apple fanboy at the time when Steve Jobs came back. While it’s true that Microsoft in no way single-handedly saved Apple, it’s also true that the $150 million investment and commitment to Mac Office was enough to remove the title “beleaguered” from Apple in most of the trade and business publications of the time. If you didn’t support Office in the late 90s, you weren’t getting into the workplace plain and simple back then, and this nod of support was enough to at least stabilize the rapidly declining Mac sales. Even MacWorld at the time was celebrating this as the salvation of the company.

  • @danielcervantes4729
    @danielcervantes47293 жыл бұрын

    Very well made documentary. Very informative and good way of crafting it all. Nice credits btw, real cool work to match it up.

  • @MikeGaming22
    @MikeGaming223 жыл бұрын

    Michael: Underrated voice. has calm voice. Me: watching on loop

  • @Steveos312

    @Steveos312

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's too plain.

  • @sgirix65

    @sgirix65

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Steveos312 yeah until sometimes I thought his voice mixed with Windows XP voice synth.

  • @y857n
    @y857n3 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft: *Ok i will revive your company* Apple: *Ok.* Microsoft: *SIKE*

  • @tilsgee

    @tilsgee

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Soumodeep Guha okay. Now explain How to install Linux arch ? :3

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Soumodeep Guha Let's be real, you are another 14 year old wannabe hacker who thinks he is cool for using Linux while his setup is trash and has no idea how any of it works.

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Soumodeep Guha Plus for most people, a command-line interface is far too complicated for them. Windows is better for the average Joe.

  • @HoangNguyen-ej4wb

    @HoangNguyen-ej4wb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ananttiwari1337 I recommend manjaro or pop os if want to try linux.

  • @ananttiwari1337

    @ananttiwari1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HoangNguyen-ej4wb I already used Manjaro, far better for MY NEEDS than Arch.

  • @xplinux22
    @xplinux223 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting summary on the events! I'm glad you were able to enlighten us and dispel some commonly held beliefs using actual first-hand testimony, contemporary evidence, and public records. You've really helped me personally understand the background behind the $150M investment. Thank you, Michael! One last question, though: if Video for Windows initially made use of QuickTime's proprietary technology in order to become relevant, and this code was eventually removed in version 1.1e, do you know what Microsoft/Intel replaced it with? Did they invent their own alternative solution or did they license the code properly from Apple? Or did they do something else entirely?

  • @barrycheesemore2928
    @barrycheesemore29283 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, explained the situation way better than any other video I have ever seen. Nice job!!

  • @MNGoldenEagle
    @MNGoldenEagle3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I think part of the problem is how that entire presentation with Steve Jobs went down. Microsoft being put front and center with a big focus on the money, browser, and Bill Gates even being streamed in for a brief segment was, from an optics perspective, very much this picture of Apple trying to appease/borrow from Microsoft. The rest of it is just people making false connections based on other events that happened at the time.

  • @VenatusUprising
    @VenatusUprising3 жыл бұрын

    Really Informative, great as always!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @0xEARTH
    @0xEARTH3 жыл бұрын

    how did you make your editing so dam good that i stopped to watch the *credits*

  • @wizzard5442

    @wizzard5442

    3 жыл бұрын

    You answered the question yourself

  • @anranqi2039
    @anranqi2039 Жыл бұрын

    I have heard how Microsoft "saved" Apple a thousand times. And I thought it was true since most people believe in it. But after watching this well-made documentary, I finally got the truth. Quality video :)

  • @brendanjamieson
    @brendanjamieson3 жыл бұрын

    This channel is rapidly becoming one of my favorites.

  • @TheMasterOfSafari
    @TheMasterOfSafari3 жыл бұрын

    Really nice and well made documentary video, great job on it mate! :)

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @badbear17
    @badbear173 жыл бұрын

    Great look into this. I learned a bit more about this topic.

  • @nickbrown1165
    @nickbrown11652 жыл бұрын

    Well worth the length, great video and great channel!!!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @meligarcia
    @meligarcia3 жыл бұрын

    Loved that credits outro!

  • @JeffreyPiatt
    @JeffreyPiatt3 жыл бұрын

    Another term of that settlement was that Microsoft had to.ensure that they didn't close there MBU division and continued development of Office: Mac and Internet Explorer: Mac for at least 5 years. Ironically IE:MAC was actually a better version of IE than the Windows component version. The windows version just caught up in features.

  • @EdvardiJ
    @EdvardiJ3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly we need Michael to make a Full Length Documentary on one of these things! Well made video Michael! Loved it!

  • @toasTr0n
    @toasTr0n3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, fantastic job putting this together. Especially loved the "3 major points" layout and the fancy outro and credits. But you forgot to say "hullo everybuddy."

  • @dermus7529
    @dermus75292 жыл бұрын

    I totally expected this video to be BS - I lived through this and remembered the myth... and then I watched... yep you made your point:)

  • @ComicsCloset
    @ComicsCloset3 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad someone made a video explaining this myth better, sadly people will always believe the myth far more.

  • @BillyRazOr2011
    @BillyRazOr20113 жыл бұрын

    I love your most well-knowned documentation in your entire video channel. ❤️❤️👍👍

  • @kommy-
    @kommy-3 жыл бұрын

    nice video! as always, i really didnt knew this

  • @joeconti2396
    @joeconti23963 жыл бұрын

    The credits song makes me think of IHE. Great documentary though.

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder19713 жыл бұрын

    This belief that Microsoft saved Apple seems to be most common among people who either weren't born or weren't out of diapers when the event happened.

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh crap. I started using the internet in this modern way when I was 10 so I’ve always just assumed everyone is ~10 years older than me ever since. When I was 13 there was lots of 21-25 year olds, etc. So I just assumed the poster of the comment was like late 30s or early 40s. But oh no, you’re right, they could be like 13. Oh dear, is this what “argh kids these days” feels like??

  • @mattelder1971

    @mattelder1971

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kaitlyn__L Yep. I just turned 50 and I'm constantly surprised at the lack of historical knowledge possessed by people I encounter online. Even when it comes to things like this that I consider fairly recent history since it happened well after I reached adulthood.

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattelder1971 it’s also strange to observe modern teens online replaying experiences from my teenagehood but often with reversed roles. I’d always understood historical parallels existing to be spotted, and that it was common to comment on history being repetitive and irony-filled; but personally and intimately witnessing it over 10-15 years, happening in real time, is a very different feeling.

  • @richardharding760
    @richardharding7603 жыл бұрын

    Yet another great video full of excellent content, shame you had to defend yourself in the early part of the video, against being a fanboy.Please keep up the great content.

  • @CamdenBloke
    @CamdenBloke3 жыл бұрын

    I remember from that period that QuickTime videos were much slicker than WMV. The rendering was a lot cleaner and if you paged through the video frame by frame it was a lot nicer as a set of discrete frames that were fully rendered. I tried playing a game that used QuickTime on a Windows computer (Daedalus Encounter) and it looked incredibly bad compared to the mac version of that game.

  • @mihoshiproductions9809
    @mihoshiproductions98093 жыл бұрын

    I keep thinking Kite-Man is going to show up any minute now during the closing credits.

  • @aared
    @aared Жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed with your level of effort on this, especially with the fact that so many publications assumed the common narrative to be correct

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that, thank you!

  • @darioaapl
    @darioaapl2 жыл бұрын

    Very neutral and informative . Your Channel should get more attention!

  • @dosendaring
    @dosendaring2 жыл бұрын

    I'm very grateful for this video. I'm a die hard windows user (used personally since Windows 1.0). Although I always try hard to be objective, but surely there would be biased here and there. I really love this video, I'm one of the people WHO THINK that Microsoft save Apple, thanks to movie like Pirates of Silicon Valley..... I'm very glad that this video correct me of misconception.

  • @NotKnafo
    @NotKnafo3 жыл бұрын

    love the "local forecast" at the end

  • @TechNetworkUK
    @TechNetworkUK3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always Michael I have really enjoyed this video and I have now learned that the deal didn’t really save Apple 👍

  • @Larafulify
    @Larafulify3 жыл бұрын

    I like how you make more videos about Apple now!

  • @LeonardoNakahara
    @LeonardoNakahara2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! I for one was sure MS did save Apple at the time this deal was announced. Thank you for the clarification!

  • @bs_blackscout
    @bs_blackscout3 жыл бұрын

    I think that a follow up video showing the history of Firefox (the spiritual successor to Netscape Navigator) and how the browser managed to get more market share than IE would be nice. Plus that would tie in and show how this "battle" isn't over yet, at least for Microsoft. Otherwise they wouldn't be salty shoving Edge down everyone's throats, making marketing campaigns for IE in 2012... etc

  • @operatorismail6038
    @operatorismail60387 ай бұрын

    i was suprised to only see 6.7k likes, your videos deserve much more views

  • @iikurt
    @iikurt3 жыл бұрын

    MJD, what font do you use for the on-screen text? It’s quite nice.

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s called “Montserrat”

  • @iikurt

    @iikurt

    3 жыл бұрын

    Michael MJD Thank you!!

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iikurt You're welcome!

  • @jaapaap123
    @jaapaap1232 жыл бұрын

    steve jobs is really an underground figure.

  • @michaelperugini4199
    @michaelperugini41993 жыл бұрын

    Love this guy's videos

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. Learned a lot.

  • @sandrotabidze
    @sandrotabidze3 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting!

  • @fn0va
    @fn0va3 жыл бұрын

    great video as always, been subbed since like 9k

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sticking around!

  • @markusTegelane

    @markusTegelane

    3 жыл бұрын

    same here

  • @silverhowl9331
    @silverhowl93312 жыл бұрын

    This was certainly well researched mah dude! :)

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @aaroncarson
    @aaroncarson3 жыл бұрын

    👏 Thank you for this! Learned a lot.

  • @zurgesmiecal
    @zurgesmiecal Жыл бұрын

    it's much easier to let people believe a false narrative than to make them conscious they were lied to

  • @hblaub
    @hblaub3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making that point once and for all. By the way, Microsoft recently closed a retailer for selling unbundled licenses. Nowadays, they claim using a not-explicitly-Microsoft-allowed license key amounts to piracy - in those days, they pirated themselves.

  • @jonas9
    @jonas93 жыл бұрын

    Where's the old outro song? :(

  • @DanielleWhite
    @DanielleWhite3 жыл бұрын

    I had forgotten about that whole business. I remember a lot of theories about the money, including a UserFriendly comic strip that later was corrected because it took the position that the money meant Apple was owned by Microsoft, But the whole matter never made any kind of sense to me. I had not known about the lawsuit in question and that actually does make sense. I so agree with you about the fanatic label being overused. I reserve it for those who are convinced that they were platform is perfect and without valid criticism, and that anyone having difficulty with the platform is only doing so because of user error not that the platform has any issue. I've run into a few of those, and not just fans of Apple

  • @gspapp
    @gspapp3 жыл бұрын

    Please mak a video about BSD an Unix. It would be a fun topic!

  • @Aomicplane
    @Aomicplane3 жыл бұрын

    How come Google doesn't have the same charges against them with their pre-installing of google chrome on Android? What about Apple and their Safari browser?

  • @eskai6893

    @eskai6893

    3 жыл бұрын

    IDK about Apple and Safari, but Google does have the same charges and (at least in the European version of Android) now gives you the option to choose web browser and search engine.

  • @boriszakharin3189

    @boriszakharin3189

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's precisely because Microsoft was a monopoly that they couldn't bundle IE with Windows. Apple and Google are not monopolies in the mobile OS market (they compete with each other in fact), so they can do things a monopoly can't do.

  • @bigbadricefarmer
    @bigbadricefarmer2 жыл бұрын

    imagine his iphone and his pc having a war while mjd is sleeping

  • @dylan.t180
    @dylan.t1803 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always

  • @dani.munoz.a23
    @dani.munoz.a233 жыл бұрын

    I have a feeling this video will be very popular, maybe even more popular than your Refund Day video.

  • @MichaelMJD

    @MichaelMJD

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope you’re right 😀

  • @dani.munoz.a23

    @dani.munoz.a23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelMJD it seems like you put a lot of effort in this video compared to others, you did a great job with the editing and such.

  • @TweeterMan287
    @TweeterMan2873 жыл бұрын

    Huh, I was not aware. Awesome vid!

  • @daemonspudguy

    @daemonspudguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tweeter!

  • @TweeterMan287

    @TweeterMan287

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daemonspudguy Howdy!

  • @ruisantos4520
    @ruisantos45203 жыл бұрын

    So far I understand MSFT invested in AAPL and OFFICE only became a kind of Standard via Apple. Up to that, OFFICE package was not know in the Business enviroment. On the time, the PC office enviroment was Lotus 123, Word Perfect and Quatro Pro.

  • @tuxlovesyou
    @tuxlovesyou2 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea! This video was incredibly illuminating! 💡

  • @appleisthebest8433
    @appleisthebest84332 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video!

  • @lucasn0tch
    @lucasn0tch3 жыл бұрын

    The future of Apple is uncertain now. If you have an iPhone, turn off automatic updates.

  • @fetc7283

    @fetc7283

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never allowed auto updates. I don’t agree with their updated TOS.

  • @lucasn0tch

    @lucasn0tch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fetc7283 tons of shit? 😏

  • @dm8579
    @dm85792 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I have been saying all the time. The idea that Microsoft saved Apple is so ridiculous and doesn't make any sense from a business perspective. Both Jobs and Gates played along.

  • @Vlad-1986
    @Vlad-19863 жыл бұрын

    Incidentally, I just installed windows95 on an enulated 486 with PcEm, and remembered yet other side of the IE scandal (this happened to me back in the day too in real hardware). Had Win95 running snappy and fine, and then there was the forced ie4 update trying to install visual studio 6 (later win95 forced the ie4 update too, but you can skip it by restarting the computer when the installer pops in). That changed the look and feel of the file manager, desktop, etc. and made the computer SLOOOW Boot up doubled and clicking on items in the start menu would take seconds to react.. Added lots of bloat at startup too. Luckily in win95 it is still possible to remove ie4 and make the computer useable again, but imagine how many people didn't had the skills, or Internet to look up a fix for this. Win98 had active desktop and ie integrated into the system without being able to remove it, so low end computers where a no go for win98.

  • @Vlad-1986

    @Vlad-1986

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a note. The 90s where a time where computers where slow and expensive, so you tried to make them last as much as possible (they costed like a car, and where outdated by next year!). The thing is that most software tried to force bloatware into the system. So even if you got a high spec computer it'll quickly became sluggish and unusable. Reinstalls where common if you used Windows.

  • @jackieburkhart3268
    @jackieburkhart3268 Жыл бұрын

    i thought mjd had given in to clickbaiting but no, this was a well researched video essay and im glad i don't have this misconception anymore. thanks Michael!

  • @sonalidatta8917

    @sonalidatta8917

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @heartlandauthor
    @heartlandauthor3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this very well-researched video!

  • @FAYZER0
    @FAYZER05 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the clarity on this.

  • @2022_temporary
    @2022_temporary2 жыл бұрын

    That outro was super duperb !

  • @EdvardiJ
    @EdvardiJ3 жыл бұрын

    "And no thanks to: *current world event* & having to re-record audio." Ahhh that MJD humour lol

  • @Robinx1985
    @Robinx19853 жыл бұрын

    I mean, bad decisions given a few more years would have made Apple disappear. But we all should agree no browser back then should have needed to be paid for as time went on more and more things would have required a browser for certain tasks as time went on and over the years kinda thing, so I think despite Microsofts business practice of monopolizing, they were on to what would be browser choice as most browsers should have been free as well as having a default built in browser to either use or to choose a more preferred browser of your choosing.

  • @ber0nd
    @ber0nd3 жыл бұрын

    this deserves more views

  • @hicknopunk
    @hicknopunk3 жыл бұрын

    I think Microsoft's software on the "Finder" Mac, saved the Mac. Tell me Mac Write and Mac Draw didn't matter.

  • @emirvmendoza
    @emirvmendoza2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the reference list

  • @_ginock_
    @_ginock_3 жыл бұрын

    I was always under the impression that M/S helped Apple but the iMac was what brought Apple back to the front line.

  • @baardbi
    @baardbi22 күн бұрын

    OMG! I can't tell you how much I loved this video. I would like it twice if I could. The amount of deep reasearch you have done here is absolutely amazing. This video is not only entertaining, but it's also historically important. Thank you very much!!!

  • @haloschafer
    @haloschafer3 жыл бұрын

    This channel is gold

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