Nine workers turned in to three once the work started. Pretty good technique for temporary service. A fiber optic line eight to nine inches deep with a soft conduit is vulnerable to breakage from other utility workers, sprinkler crews, and gardeners.

@cupcakemcgee3175

11 ай бұрын

These workers are in the public eye. Would like the public to come to your work and criticize how you do your job. yea, I think not!

@jamess1787

11 ай бұрын

I especially like the Berkenstocks that one of the guys are wearing! Also, they could very well be running armored cable, so most home-owner/pruvate ground work wouldn't affect it. Locates would need to be done with any major road repair.🤷. City I live in had their traffic light systems and photo "RFP" in but neglected to require minimum depths.... Like 2-3" install depth. These get torn up all the time by construction crews 🤣

@EpicATrain

11 ай бұрын

OP, and when they need to rip the road up for whatever reason, there goes that line. This truly is horrible installation.

@EpicATrain

11 ай бұрын

@@tripplefives1402 Common practice where? That's not the proper way to install this stuff.

@tamashalmai8224

10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily, in case of micro fibre the cable is installed in a coper protection tube. Also if budget allows the installation is based on a physical ring topology, which is an additional layer of security.

Six people on the job, only two doing the bulk of the work. A third dude finally picks up a shovel after like ten minutes and does like 30 seconds of work. Living up to the stereotype.

@driatrogenesis

10 ай бұрын

yup You drive by any municipal construction project and its the same Private projects are a diff story, but anything done at state, or local govt is absolute trash, and you notice there are always wasting money! They will spend money just to spend it because they wint get thst state funding next yr if they dont spend it they prob hire extra people just to spend money

As someone who lives in Huntsville great video!

Great video, Brian!

Maybe they're already doing it but whenever a new subdivision of homes gets built --- wouldn't it be easier to lay conduit underground to every home, say around 3 foot depth? That way you can install fiber or replace old fiber rather easily, and makes it future-proof. The way they are doing it in this video, the cable will be destroyed whenever they renovate the roadway.

@Deploracle

11 ай бұрын

Roadways won't be needed when cars are outlawed.

@stickyfox

11 ай бұрын

If we lived in a more developed country, data infrastructure would be considered valuable and there'd already be conduits under the roads for it. We treat fiber the way slums in India treat plumbing and electricity.

@alliso1240

11 ай бұрын

Where i am conduit is run to every home. I would guess dial up wasn't even a thing when these homes were built. 😂

@cupcakemcgee3175

11 ай бұрын

You would think. Most municipalities want do all this after a freshly laid asphalt goes down. Atleast that is how it works where I live. I work for that municipality. NOT the one in the video

@drooplug

11 ай бұрын

That orange stuff is conduit. The trench looks deep enough to not be a problem for resurfacing.

Good job! Btw that neighbor couldn’t wait until you guys finish work to do his lawn? Lol 😅🤘🏻

They need more workers standing around talking to each other. It'll go faster that way.

Most Folks: That machine looks cool. Me: Damn that lawn looks good.

That is big black tablet, that liquid they put inside and where is sealant?

Love the guy that decided to weedwac as there working. Karen had to see what's happening

Depending upon your city, county and state codes. All fiber underground cables should be anywhere between 36 to 42 inches deep. Depending upon the underground utilities. This that you see will likely only last as long as the road. Is not milled up to be replaced by a new road.

Good work

Like your outside thinking but 8" max for depth... roads will rip that up np if road has to be reconstructed... something to consider for long term.

@thecasualfly

10 ай бұрын

of course that's part of the long term plan but this is a way to get fiber there now.. also unless it's a deep resurfacing which I doubt in a residential area it's normally about 4 inches.. so most likely below that threshold

"Ditchcraft" - The practice of professionally operating a Ditch Witch....

awesome video

I do like it as a temporary solution, yes the road will need attention at some point even if it's low vehicular use. But when that time comes, they can put conduit in. I think the purpose of this is probably to do a quick job, but also one that doesn't involve costly and inconvenient road closures. When the road needs re-surfacing, it will need full permits and be a hassle to road users, at that point they can do the final cable run well below ground level. I did a job only a few weeks ago (new build) that would have involved power going from one side of a road to the other - that was going to be £7,000. If the power was on the right side of the road already, it would have been a third of that price or less. The admin cost is very high for going under a road.

@garygsp3

10 ай бұрын

They have horizontal boring machines that could have bored under road put the cable at a safe from breakage depth. That costs more money and a lot more time. Which is the way every other utility service does it. Nope Google opted for cheap, and destruction of public property. So cheap that the cable is going to need replaced if public works ever touches that road. So they'll be back... to do it again... What's worse is ultimately Google isn't paying for this shoddy work. The people of Huntsville are, what's even worse is that their public officials allowed it.

@Solkre82

10 ай бұрын

@@garygsp3 We've had Surf Broadband and Frontier Fiber installing in my town. They're using the horizontal boring machines everywhere. Nothing like what was shown here. The only trick I've seen is a long drill bit looking then to jump under sidewalks for the runs to the homes.

The Pace they work at is frightening. But, in the end the job was done, or was it?

good job.

Seven project managers, 3 people to do the work lol

every time I see a patch or a cut at right angle to the road, I wonder why. even a slight angle makes it last longer in terms of being snow plowed and it's also a less egregious bump to vehicles.

@BobBob-nr1zt

11 ай бұрын

Makes sense. And also, why not just tunnel under the road. There's no way we couldn't build a machine of the same size, for the same cost, that could push a rod under the road, and then pull the rod back, threading the conduit in the process.

Nice video - I never though this type of install was a thing

When the road gets resurfaced with new Tarmac everyone will loose their service?

It feels like the blade runs much too slowly, and it's also dry, well these aren't my devices. Why don't you see that you should put the whole thing properly in the ground? I'm curious to see how the next street coating will do the cable good. Here (Switzerland) such cables are shot over short distances (e.g. under streets), but mostly laid through existing cable ducts (electricity, telephone, TV, etc.), well protected, easily laid and easily accessible for renewals/repairs.

No 811 flags in sight lol. Call in your digs, for the love of God.

Im with most of these people in the comments. This video was interesting but as someone who did this work for three years with a plow and jt20 directional drill, this was hard to watch. Thanks for the upload anyways and watch out for the rainbow tree roots.

they should drill under road ...

That's one dull blade on that cutter. Slow as hell. Use cold pour crack filler. Won't damage the microduct, faster to install and less messy. We use EZ Street to patch our roads.

@BigZeus

11 ай бұрын

here they used concrete, made it much flatter and doesnt indent in

Thank God for FIOS all they did was change my ONT and ran an ethernet cable to my router. They didn't even have to change my router, I guess this area didn't have the infrastructure in place before.

So what happens to the fibre in the road when it is ready to be milled and repaved. Is the fiber removed before milling, or it gets chewed up by the road mill?

@whitexeno

10 ай бұрын

They burried it well below where repaving will take place

Way less people and way cleaner to directional bore plus once asphalt needs repair there goes the entire line haha

@gregwilliams386

2 жыл бұрын

Seen that. Not to mention waterline, storm drain and gas line replacement. And in large cities this would never work.

@tcpnetworks

11 ай бұрын

Yep - we underbore everything past establishment here. 1M down for main runs - 600mm down for residential ducts.

When they resurface roads nowadays the grind the asphalt down about 3-4 inches. This won't get dug up? Looks too shallow.

@Todd.T

Жыл бұрын

Yes it will. Should have made 2 pits with a vac truck and used a ditch witch to make it a forever installation. This will get cut during curb repairs and road repairs.

Wat are some fiber optic companies that are hiring in California?

Need to come up with a thin large wheel to place the conduit at the bottom of the trench, like the one for the asphalt.

That poor machine needs some love

Utilities (e.g. fiber optic cables) installed on telephone poles can be damaged once every few years and are fixed within hours. Utilities installed underground are damaged far less frequently, but would be off-line for days, or weeks, or worse. A bit of a trade-off I think. We have had fiber optic internet installed in 2014, even in an area of extremely low population density, i.e. multi-acre lots. It was installed quickly and efficiently. People wait extra decades if they don't have poles. A bit of a trade off I think. Choose your option.

If that was a utility company, they would have to Mill half the block and replace curb to curb. Crazy! 😂

What's he spraying in the cut when putting the asphalt back?

@briankutys2235

Жыл бұрын

It’s just water. Used to activate the aquaphalt to harden it

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

Diesel, only Diesel......(Petroleum)

Why cut a fairly new looking road to lay microduct in a gap and then simply patch it? leaving a big black line across it?. Why not just get a JT9, bore under the road and put in a 1" flex pipe and fish it instead?. This seems like horrible business practice, and I can't imagine the city or majority of the neighbors are really happy about it, either.

@jeffbell9391

10 ай бұрын

Money and time ,this is cheap way

Micro-trenching is too elegant for this low work.

so how you put and pull accross the fiber cables?

@tcpnetworks

11 ай бұрын

You suck them through with a vacuum.

@digi3218

11 ай бұрын

Put a fish line through first or it comes already in the conduit. You pull the fiber and a new fish line for the next guy through.

Why not put crack seal over the top.

where was this ?

too bad google has already abandoned this technique in nc and the system they had put in. worked ok till the first time they ground the asphalt down and it ripped the filler and cable out every time they crossed it

@LaFox23

11 ай бұрын

It’s a horrible method and im surprised cities allowed them to do it this way

Looka like road works in the US are the same as here in the UK, 1 bloke doing the work with 9 others standing around supervising.

I guess directional boring wasn't invented yet?

Thought Google stopped new fiber builds?

@ikkuranus

4 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought too. Maybe it was actually one of the other ISPs such as AT&T or Verizon etc.

@Diegohall7875

3 жыл бұрын

It's in Huntsville, Alabama and it is for Google Fiber. Huntsville Utilities builds and owns the fiber network there and leases access to the various ISPs.

@jonatanbarraza1475

3 жыл бұрын

How do I find these projects and were there going on? I’m a contractor..

What is that blade made out of JC

@BigZeus

11 ай бұрын

diamond

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

the blade is from wood, hartwood.....

Couldn't even follow the painted line......... Could they work any slower??

@briankutys2235

Жыл бұрын

Painted line is just proposed path for locators.

Cut the cable too short. How is anyone going to tie in? Or was just that just a hollow tube for the fiber to go into? Should have put a sealer over everything. Snow will melt, freeze and expand and create the need to repair the road.

Grid down made easy...

Do you guys want some more work?

I bet these guys getting $60/$100 an hour sweeping the sidewalk.

@driatrogenesis

10 ай бұрын

at tax payer expense but hey we all need 100 gbps so we can be brainwashed some more

Just like anywhere else in the world 7 people to supervise, 2 people to work and 1 noisy frog...

What happens when the road needs to be repaved?

@LaFox23

11 ай бұрын

Gets ripped up

That should last a day or two.

9:52 The Cable Co is checking out whats going on ahahaha

Micro trenching is done as a faster more inexpensive way to run fiber to customers . If the road is repaved, or planning to be replaced they would end up running it in con. Micro trenching is good for areas that permitting and directional boring are not practical. This is a quick, cheap, easy way to get fiber internet without the overhead

@thecasualfly

10 ай бұрын

Don't tell that to the armchair experts

5 watch 1 work. Murica

As an HDD contractor 🤦‍♂ cutting a perfectly good road for fiber is crazy how can there village allow such a thing.

How I’m the world is that deep enough to keep it from being damaged during ashfault and concrete work. But I guess that isn’t there problem.

Google Fiber has put everything underground in the KC area. This looks temporary.

what is the liquid been used ?

@briankutys2235

11 ай бұрын

Just standard water. It activates the aquaphalt and hardens it.

@tiagoas171

11 ай бұрын

@@briankutys2235 Thanks. Good Work, Appreciate.

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

Diesel

How deep does that blade go down

@briankutys2235

Жыл бұрын

Local municipality regulations are 6”

@LaFox23

11 ай бұрын

Not deep enough

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

2 meter

@LaFox23

10 ай бұрын

@@sigridqwq5198 bud that’s not 2 meters

Hope that ain’t Louisville , Google abandoned it do to shallow trenching 2” was to shallow.

3:28 Dude is flying down the road for a construction area. 😲

@Mike1614b

11 ай бұрын

yeah, people are jerks

2 работают, остальные типа управляют (менеджеры). Ещё один, вроде, инженер (мастер). У нас в подобных случаях оптику или поверх по столбам ведут или копают две ямы и сверлят на большой глубине (2-3 метра).

@user-lt1ye1ll4d

10 ай бұрын

К сожалению в месте прокола как правило в течении года асфальт проседает. Может быть из-за нарушения технологии, а может технология сама хреновая.

@Gekxxx1

10 ай бұрын

вроде компенсационный шов делают, а не гильзуют, ибо выводы не оставили

They used this method to put long flashing lights down the centre of the highway for a school crossing zone. Took two weeks night work, the lights stopped working after two weeks, they never repaired them.

With the price to repair faber optic , this sure isn't trying to protect it.oh and cut right through the curb and gutter

No way that's 8 or 9 inches below surface.

Gotta be dead sure that no other installations are in the way down there ...

This sure doesn’t seem permanent.

Wonder who is going to blame who when it is time to replace the concrete of the road.

Damn thats shallow....

Wheres your hard hat?

@maxipaw-dc5xj

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need hard hats unless your working around two story building or higher.

My friend explained why satellites can't replace fiber cable for communication network is because the distance between earth and satellite then back to earth is too great. The added milliseconds becomes a bottleneck. I still think of how many million miles of roadway on earth have to get a cable.

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

the glasfiber is only fore important peaple, like Bidenfriends, only for homeoffice, like CIA....

Am a fiber installer in Uganda but earn less than 200 USD without any allowance, would like to work with such tools and better pay

They are doing it in my area now. So what’s gonna happen when the street needs to be stripped and repaved again?? That cut didn’t look that deep for this street. I saw the cut in person here and it looked very deep. Probably not gonna be affected by street scraping. And another thing why do this underground?? Isn’t that gonna be hard for them to fix the wire if something goes wrong and you know things always go wrong with wires for whatever reason. They will have to pull it out of the ground etc. sounds like a lot of unnecessary work to me. What about floods?? Wire could be submerged in water underground. Why not just run on a telephone pole and be done with it quick? Like cable internet.

@y2klightning

3 жыл бұрын

I'm researching this method for a new FTTH role out, and I've never heard of it being ripped up by a repaving, that's something I hadn't considered... Definitely will have to see if I can find more occurrences of that. "Attachment" fees are a recurring cost of attaching to a telephone pole... forever, you also have to pay to "make ready" the pole if there isn't room (this could range from moving other utilities to replacing the whole pole), many neighborhoods don't have poles, ice or vehicles can take out a pole. The cable itself is protected from water, then they put it in a conduit, but yes it can be damaged by road work or other utilities; the MT9 they're using is only a 9" max depth so it definitely isn't going that far down.

@Catman1798

3 жыл бұрын

@@y2klightning well i got google fiber anyway soooo lol. Hope it stays working when streets get repaired lol. Love it too! Great service

@mpetrie

2 жыл бұрын

When a road needs to be resurfaced, the amount of road material removed is typically only 4-6 inches at most. These fiber lines are typically installed 8-10 inches deep so the lines will remain below the point where the surface is removed and repaved. The only time it would really be an issue is if the subsurface/foundation of a road needs to be redone. At that point, the fiber line will need to be reinstalled.

@vincentpallemans6035

2 жыл бұрын

Theyre installing a conduit below the asphalt grade. Asphalt is not going to be thicker than 4". The duct they're installing is deeper. When the fiber is rendered inoperable will pull it out of the duct sleeve and pull a new fiber through it. No need to reinstall the duct

@JacksonCampbell

Жыл бұрын

@@Catman1798 What region, and what's the cost?

Google needs to stay out of infrastructure.

Garbage system. If road works is ever needed it’s a nightmare to R & R

God forbid the road ever has to be ripped up and repaved. Someday they will learn drilling is better.

Wow.. No Wonder Google Fiber is Expensive.. 5 Managers to Tell 2 workers what to do

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

the whites have to control the blacks, maybe they dont understand what is to do...?

That's very shallow to bury fiber cable

@briankutys2235

Жыл бұрын

For our municipality and our MSO, it is at the required 6”

@rythemzlatin

11 ай бұрын

​@@briankutys2235 Yup. As " _required_ " by a cubicle-dwelling bureaurocrat with absolutely *NO* *IDEA* how weather & the elements work. Book-smart , irl-DUMB. I've worked over 35 years in government , and sadly it's the dumbest & laziest ones ( who *WON'T* be missed on a jobsite ) who tend to get promoted. Penny-wise & _Thousands_ of dollars foolish ; but they _show_ on *paper* how much they "saved" & get bonuses for it.

umm,hate to break it to you guy you missed the dotted line, please don't hire this guy to do heart surgery.. LOL only kidding

They have never been in a city that requires a permit ...for every cut like that!!!

how the hell is that even legal...

@LaFox23

11 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m saying

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

the Praesident Biden say is okay....cut the shit....

Don’t forget your respirators! Powdered concrete is very nasty for your lungs!

Too bad this technique didn't work they could deploy fiber much faster, but the fiber would ride back up to the surface.

@BigZeus

11 ай бұрын

It did, they are doing it in Austin currently

Wow... That's some seriously lazy, crappy installation. No wonder Google Fiber has so many issues with their lines coming back up to the surface. I've heard horror stories but never seen it. This is NOT the way to install fiber, not even remotely close.

This has to be the most ghetto shit I've ever seen. There's no way that small of a cutting wheel made it all the way through that high back curb. So now if that curb ever has to be replaced, guess what, there's fiber embedded inside of it.

Billion dollar company opts for the cheapest installation along with the destruction of public property. Every other utility service would have to bore under the road. NOT GOOGLE! We bribed your officials and we can now do what we want. EVEN BETTER! We did this job so cheap, than when if fails because it's so shallow, we're allowed to do it again. What's even better is ultimately the people of Huntsville are the ones who will pay in more ways than one with this shoddy install. They could have bored under the road and Google would still have made more money than they knew what to do with it. This just pisses me off.

dont do this in florida. it might fall in.

Boy are these workers slow. In the same time chinese workers would have put up a bridge and built a few road for fun.

Meh ... micro trenching is just such a bad way to do this ... yeah it is cheap, yeah it is fast, but there are SO many downsides ...

@SamaSama-ke5uj

Ай бұрын

What are some downsides and some and some alternatives?

@TheScytheMoron

Ай бұрын

@@SamaSama-ke5uj Well digging ... dedicated ducts 80cm or even lower below ground. It aint cheap, but it will last and in case of a defect it is easy to fix. Microtrenching is just ... CANCER

need to see them feet moving.....

Typical...three guys to do the job of one

I see so many flaws with this. This cheap BS will cost Google dearly down the road in repair cost.

As per usual, the comments are epic.... lot of know it all talking about things they know nothing about, if you read the title it should not surprise anyone, it's google, they can do whatever they want. statutes, rules, regulations and policy go out the window.

@xvhkgreen6297

10 ай бұрын

you know nothing.

@xvhkgreen6297

10 ай бұрын

I bet these guys getting $60/$100 an hour sweeping the sidewalk.

@xvhkgreen6297

10 ай бұрын

Billion dollar company opts for the cheapest installation along with the destruction of public property. Every other utility service would have to bore under the road. NOT GOOGLE! We bribed your officials and we can now do what we want. EVEN BETTER! We did this job so cheap, than when if fails because it's so shallow, we're allowed to do it again. What's even better is ultimately the people of Huntsville are the ones who will pay in more ways than one with this shoddy install. They could have bored under the road and Google would still have made more money than they knew what to do with it.

@xvhkgreen6297

10 ай бұрын

who are you? the statutes, rules, regulations and policy police?

@xvhkgreen6297

10 ай бұрын

its people like you that let this happen.

So, they must rewire it when a new road surface must be put in. This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

No mask

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

no distance.....

Horrible operator!

@sigridqwq5198

10 ай бұрын

smooth operator...