Micro-LED Displays
In this video, let us talk about Micro-LED technology - the Prince That Was Promised.
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In this video, let us talk about Micro-LED technology - the Prince That Was Promised.
Links:
- The Asianometry Newsletter: asianometry.com
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@2drealms196
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brilliant
@walid0the0dilaw
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...self
@nerdonspeed3493
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2 mons ???
@gljames24
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How is this 2 months ago? Patreon?
@DRakeTRofKBam
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truly enlightening words
One of the biggest areas where the quality of picture on CRTs was seen as poor by the majority of people wasn't the fault of the CRT, but rather the noisy analog signal of broadcast, things like RF or composite video connectors, and things like recordings done on VHS tapes. All of these things combined created fuzzier, noisier images that the CRT would dutifully render for you. Granted a CRT is really inefficient and heavy, but input a signal with something like SCART or S-Video with a digital input source, and you'll get a clean image, even high definition models existed. Sony's Trinitron models always looked really good back in the day compared to other ones I used.
@molochi
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the last CRT i bought was a 20in Dell (Sony) Trinitron that supported 1600x1200@ 60hz. That was around 2000. Used it for about a decade after that. I switched to LCD displays because they got cheap at higher resolutions. Also larger screens were good, because my farsightedness began to be noticable, this allowed me to push the screen further away from my eyes allowing me to not need readers. heh.
@operator8014
Жыл бұрын
No... it was because of the CRT's. My N64 looks awesome with AV cables on my nice oled. Better than ever before.
@primus711
Жыл бұрын
Crts use staggered rgb layout and will never be as sharp especially with text that is its main downfall We wont get into the many other things like size etc etc etc
@EbonySaints
Жыл бұрын
Uh oh. The CRT apologists are here! Hurry and escape while they lug that holy grail 2003 Sony Trinitron made for professional video work that weights over 100lbs. to the discussion like it was the common everyday experience for us mere mortals.
@GeorgeMonet
Жыл бұрын
CRTs were necessarily big and expensive. You could not produce a 50 inch easily shippable CRT tv for $200 shipping included.
Ironic that the world has gone from Red LED's being the cheapest/easiest to produce and Blue the hardest/most expensive to completely the other way around.
@dancoulson6579
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's very strange. I remember having a maplin catalog as a kid, and the elusive blue LED was sold for around £5 a peice... Or more. While the humble red yellow and green LED's were often sold for around 5p. Now you can get a pack of 100 blue LED's from China for less than what one would have cost a few decades ago. I also remember a time when LED's were considered ever-lasting. Now we've got to the point where things are made so cheaply, that the average LED bulb fails sooner than the traditional incandescent.
@OgbondSandvol
Жыл бұрын
@@dancoulson6579 When I started in the electronics' hobby at 14 y.o., there was NO blue LED... (I'm "just" 49 now ;-) The LED bulbs COULD be ever lasting, if they didn't pushed its components beyond their specs...
@michaelmoorrees3585
Жыл бұрын
@@OgbondSandvol - 49 ! Just a kid ... have a cookie. I bought my first LED, a very dim red one, in 1973, when starting high school. Actually, the first blue LEDs, were made by Cree, in 1985. They cost ~$60 each, at the time. Price fell to $1 each by 1990. They brute forced it by using silicon carbide, which can tolerate a lot of heat. They where rather dim. 1992 -ish or 1994, more realistically, is when GaN became a thing. Now you had not only blue LEDs, but very bright blue LEDs ! You also got true green LEDs, as opposed to the earlier washed out yellow-green LEDS that came out earlier. I think the problem with the green and red LEDs is the size. Red and green LEDs in the non-micro LED scale, are not an issue. Its the trying to make those colors at the micro scale.
@anuardalhar6762
Жыл бұрын
@@dancoulson6579 Gosh! I regularly order electronics components from Maplin during my university days in UK during the 70’s. While my university order components from RS Components. Are they still in bussines now?
@andrewallen9993
Жыл бұрын
@@anuardalhar6762 RS most certainly is!
you don't know how much i'm waiting for Micro-LED tech
An expert interviewed on FOMO's channel asked to guess when prices will be attainable for consumers for micro LED TVs and he said around the early 2030s.
The invention of the Blue LED was so important that the inventor and the group that worked on it, both japanese researchers, received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2014. Physics is considered one of the most, if not the most, hard subject to win the Nobel prize.
@eduardoanonimo3031
Жыл бұрын
Yhea... and after that Obama get the Nobel prize of the peace for... well, for... for... literally not doing anything? And then the Nobel prizes become the joke that they are today... and have one is not a respectable thing anymore... And then better that you dont read what signed the developer of the blue led after that Nobel price...
@johndawson6057
Жыл бұрын
@Zaydan Naufal why aren't more poat-80's inventions winning more Nobel prizes?
@richr161
Жыл бұрын
@@johndawson6057 Its hard to quantify the impact of what was invented until the future is my guess. A blue led may not seem like a big deal at the time, because other tech had not been invented. Move forward a decade or so and that "small" discovery is the key tech which all other new tech is based upon. Takes time to measure the importance of a discovery.
@larryc1616
Жыл бұрын
@@johndawson6057 like biology, medicine and chemistry too can take decades before its importance to mankind is uncovered and rewarded.
I nearly threw my phone when you said that 90s era LCD panels (or any lcd panels for that matter) have better contrast ratios than CRTs
Ok, so I can count on having a micro-LED monitor about the same time my local nuclear fusion generator comes on line?
@kensuiki6791
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao😂😂🤣🤣
Those big stadium displays consume huge amounts of power. The largest reach close to 1MW at full brightness and many have their own air conditioning.
@jmd1743
Жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidophor That's the first jumbo tron technology. It was also used by NASA for their apollo control room.
@chengong388
Жыл бұрын
yes but that's simply because of their insane brightness, the efficiency is still higher than both LCD and OLED.
@reahs4815
Жыл бұрын
1MW? are you sure
@douro20
Жыл бұрын
@@reahs4815 Yes for the largest displays it can be that high.
@knurlgnar24
Жыл бұрын
Modern displays no longer require air conditioning in any climate, though for lifetime reasons some in the middle east are air conditioned. 1MW would be a very large display but, yes, people drop 10's of millions of dollars on gigantic displays that draw 1MW sometimes.
every single vid you make is an absolute banger. Id love for you to produce one on the back story and explanation of the tech in quantom dot. thanks for all the work you put into these
@thor8086
Жыл бұрын
Absolute banger if the subliminal agenda is bash other Asian countries except mainland China with Taiwan pride. Almost professionally prepared videos but very skewed presentations and incomplete understanding of the technology, economy and country specific politics. For example, in this Micro LED display video, the narrator is confused about application of Micro LED by showing outdoor LED displays. He is also unclear of micro LED by interchanging micro LED pitch size and micro LED illuminating technologies. Asianometry, is QD-LED a micro LED or quantum dot display?
I saw this video and I was so excited. Micro-led is one of those technologies that is so perfect but has challenges including cost, manufacturing, etc, if I ever have the opportunity to buy a microled monitor or tv i'll definitely remember how far away it was in 2020
@PWingert1966
Жыл бұрын
Its still just as far away. I expect we won't see mass market micro LED till at least 2040 if not 2050.
@johnbillt466
Жыл бұрын
They should make 50 or 55 inch 1080p Micro-LED tv. Most tv cables are still streamed in 1080p, so don't see any problem here. If you watch movies/tv shows on Netflix or Disney plus who has 4k content then you just have to deal with 1080p resolution until they make 4k Micro-LED affordable.
@tragile9108
9 ай бұрын
@@PWingert1966 No way, it will be before that.
@PWingert1966
9 ай бұрын
@@tragile9108 If it does happen soponer than that it will be what we are currently seeing in select models at sizes of 65" or larger and they will still command a 25% premium. It's not clear if Micro LED will displace OLED in the market. We are just now at the point where most manufacturers are replacing their LED lines with OLED 2013 by LG, and it's taken 10 years to reach this stage. So, if we assume a similar timeline or micro-LED debuted in 2088 and we can expect it no earlier than 2028 but for it to displace OELD we can look at LED timeline. The LED was invented in 1962 than 65 years to be displaced by OLED. Assuming half that time gives us 2048 making some adjustments for manufacturing at scale would give a reasonable estimate of 2040 or as late as 2045!
There was also a tech called SED (if I recall correctly) which was basically like having every pixel be a separate CRT (one electron emitter per pixel). Basically a truly flat CRT, which would have had excellent contrast (although probably the same phosphor burn in issues)
@JonMartinYXD
Жыл бұрын
Yes, surface-conduction electron-emitter display. Every _subpixel_ was effectively a very tiny CRT: an electron emitter, a small gap, then a red, green, or blue phosphor. It was initially developed by Canon and then they partnered with Toshiba to make displays. The display quality of the prototypes shown off at trade shows was reportedly exceptional (but this was a good 15 years ago), but the introduction date kept sliding and sliding so clearly there were some ultimately insurmountable hurdles. I do know that one problem was that subpixels could only be on or off, brightness had to be controlled by flickering them many times per frame.
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
I just came here to mention this technology. It seemed very promising circa 2000 - a direct competitor to plasma displays in particular - but as LCD displays improved, eventually displacing plasma, it became clear they were never going to be competitive with LCDs. At least, not competitive enough to warrant developing an entirely new technology. Pity. If they'd come along circa 2000-2005, they would have been a game changer.
@mcswato1
Жыл бұрын
There was a complicated patent lawsuit contesting the business arrangement with Toshiba. Afterwards, Toshiba was no longer associated. See Kent displays, Zvi Yaniv. Shucks. Missed again. Did save Canon bundles of money as their business model was faulty though in my opinion.
@bricaaron3978
Жыл бұрын
@@sunspot42 *...but as LED displays improved..."* _LCD_ displays, you mean.
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
@@bricaaron3978 Yeah LCD. Fixed. Although LEDs are a big reason for LCDs finally rivaling CRTs and plasma when it comes to contrast ratios. Dimmable LED backlights have vastly improved LCD picture quality.
As a PC enthusiast I feel like Micro-LED is one of those technologies that has been 5 years in the future for the past 10 years
my guess is the QD-Leds will be the way to go - only blue backing mini LED's with efficient photon down-shifting via quantum dot to the colour wanted.
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Perfect the easiest to produce color and then use quantum dots to produce the other two colors.
@johndododoe1411
Жыл бұрын
Yep, and with single type, entire screen segments of (for example) 64x64 pixels with control circuits could be made as single chips more cheaply combined into full resolution displays than individual color dots. It should be noted that some mass produced products already do this, in particular the modern optical computer mouse.
@aquaneon8012
Жыл бұрын
Main issue is that blue qd leds still have lifetime issues. Time will tell if the lifetime can be improved quick enough.
@lubricustheslippery5028
Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 I was thinking about the fluidic self assembly on how to get the right color in the right place. With one chip having all the three colors would fix that. And you end up with 1/3 of the chips to place.
@AD34534
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like the most plausible route that companies will take.
Good to see Plessey making an appearance. One of the rare UK fab companies, I remember visiting their Plymouth fab as a schoolkid in the early 80s, goggling at 3" wafers. The company's history goes back to 1917, or at least the name does; the logo comes from the days when it did lots of military radar. Not as well known as it shuold be.
Hey, don't forget the CFL LCDs! Those were where backlights really were most of the time until LEDs took over. I even had a MacBook with CFL backlighting.
@OgbondSandvol
Жыл бұрын
I still proudly use a CFL LCD in the PC of my electronics' shop.
@primus711
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Ccfl*
@profdc9501
Жыл бұрын
I still have a CCFL LCD panel that works fine. Though over time the CCFL gets dimmer and dimmer. An old Dell laptop I had with a 1920x1080 CCFL backlight got very dim and I got rid of it. So yes, LED backlighting is better, it's nice and bright and I've never seen it dim significantly while I've used it.
@jmuench420
Жыл бұрын
I came here to say this. He missed plasma and CFL backlit LCDs, those were out for quite awhile before the LED backlights came along.
@getsideways7257
Жыл бұрын
@@profdc9501 I also have one, but the colors are pretty skewed at this point.
not another word against CRTs. Its superior to LCDs in many respects.
@ToTheGAMES
Жыл бұрын
No it is not.
@DctrBread
Жыл бұрын
@@ToTheGAMES yes it is
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
@@ToTheGAMES Yeah, CRTs offered better contrast and better color rendition until very, very recently. Until the past couple of years, you had to go pretty far up most product lines to find an LCD that offered comparable color and contrast performance to a mainstream CRT from two decades ago.
@brodriguez11000
Жыл бұрын
@@sunspot42 Well we are talking about micro-leds so going "pretty far up" is already implied.
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
@@brodriguez11000 Right, but newer panels with localized dimming and quantum dots can hit pretty high contrast ratios and have remarkable color accuracy and brightness. You can finally get an LCD screen that rivals a CRT in those regards for a fairly reasonable price. That’s a fairly decent development.
I almost forgot all these problems with microled, great summary. The transistor once used to be impossible to make a reality. I guess these things just need the right minds and people together, that's what makes it such a slow progress.
@donvanvilet8466
Жыл бұрын
That's not what it is. They're dragging their feet because they know that once people have these things there will be zero incentive to buy new products for 10+ years. The display manufacturing industry is a joke.
Fascinating video! Very informative. I did want to point out that they actually used compact florescent bulbs for backlighting in some early LCD displays. I had no idea until I saw some retro computer channels having to replace them.
It sounds to me like the tech won't be practical until someone comes up with a way to just construct the pixels on the substrate.
@kensuiki6791
Жыл бұрын
Yeah why won't they man.
If you think CRTs had poor image quality, then you probably only saw some heavily used consumer-grade CRT TVs with a low line count. Sony Trinitron and NEC/Mitsubishi Diamondtron and possibly other aperture grille CRT monitors had and still do have good image quality, though they might not be optimal for small text unless perfectly calibrated and in good shape. Aside from the bulky size, I'd say the main drawback of CRTs is the less-than-perfect geometry.
@donvanvilet8466
Жыл бұрын
This guy is just an industry shill. They've been able to make cheap MicroLED displays for years and only aren't doing it because rubes keep buying junk. That's what this industry does. MILK for as long as possible, and d i r t b a gs like this guy are their mouthpiece. He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
@donvanvilet8466
Жыл бұрын
This guy is just an industry sh i | l. They've been able to make cheap MicroLED displays for years and only aren't doing it because rubes keep buying junk. That's what this industry does. MILK for as long as possible, and d i r t b a gs like this guy are their mouthpiece. He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
Love the humour mixed into these videos. That introduction was golden! 😁 (but there are many more hidden gems in the video).
So you make a substraight that is just connections (like a surface covered with a furry forest much smaller than the leds), you make a paint out of all 3 colors of micro leds (probably even smaller ones), and you paint them onto the substraight. Then you have a device like a fpga that tests every set of connections and sees what color is produced and programs itself to know what connections produce what colors at what points.
Love your closing statement. I am told, the most promosing technology in mass transfer right now is LIFT (laser induced forward transfer), using eximer laser with mask to transfer a n area of micro LED's instead of one by one. However, before it is proven successful in mass scale I would still be doubtful.
This is the best explanation of what MicroLED technology is all about and the problem with how hard it's to manufacture MicroLED's. Thank you for sharing this video and information with us because now I fully understand why it's taking so long for this awesome technology to be available for purchase. Hopefully one day we will have the opportunity to purchase a MicroLED at a price that most of us can truly afford. Please keep up the awesome work and I promise to keep coming back for more and sharing your video's with as many people as I possibly can because you definitely deserve all the exposure that you can receive...💯👍
Great analysis! Reminds me of my chemical engineering days ... without the math. Very much appreciated!
This video finally explained to me _why_ it's so hard to get good yields on micro LED! Thanks :D.
I watch every report twice, my education is coming along nicely. Thank you for your work.
Your videos on chip manufacturing are always a joy. Would love one on OLED displays and Quantum Dots.
I bought the $80K Samsung TV, hooked my Atari 2600 up, Pitfall never looked so good. Gonna play Demon Attack next, I'm almost giddy.
Great video as always. It's staggering the amount of useful information that's on your channel John, thanks for all your hard work.
CRT worked poorly? It took a long time for LCD to match them in overall quality.
@joshieecs
Жыл бұрын
it still hasn't
@kicapanmanis1060
Жыл бұрын
They still haven't in some areas especially gamin related (Digital Foundry made a great analysis video on this). Mind you LCD has other advantages like size.
@NSS7
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Except for its weight and bulky size it is superior than LCD in almost every way.
@Raynorification
Жыл бұрын
@@NSS7 I don't think there is still a lot of metrics where CRT is better than high quality LCD. Pixel response time, global contrast ratio maybe (but VA screens are still great and LCD are better with localized contrast)
great video :D I still think CRTs have the best colour reproduction/response time/smoothest image, but obviously they have the worst packaging constraints and their resolution hasn't kept pace with other technologies. Hopefully MicroLED will be the best of everything.
@tamius-han
Жыл бұрын
I am glad I'm not the only person who doesn't agree with that part of the video. Didn't CRTs have perfect blacks (and therefore superior contrast ratio to LCDs), and better viewing angles? LCD monitors won purely because they don't weigh a ton, and because they don't take up half your desk. Not because they offer superior image quality.
@swecreations
Жыл бұрын
@@tamius-han Yeah they did, that part of the video is completely inaccurare
@clarencegreen3071
Жыл бұрын
A CRT for a color TV, and its associated circuitry, was/is an impressive technical achievement. On the screen was a pattern of Red Green and Blue phosphors. At the back were three corresponding electron guns, R G and B. Only the beam from the R gun (for example) was allowed to strike the R phosphors. Likewise for G and B. Yet the three beams were swept via magnetic deflection over the screen in unison, and the beams had to maintain their identity with each one striking its assigned color phosphor. You may (or may not) find it interesting to learn more about these systems, for the sake of history if nothing else. In any event, don't be throwing shade at that technology. It worked pretty danged good . . . until something better came along.
@cerebralm
Жыл бұрын
@@clarencegreen3071 we literally just said we prefer it lol.
Excellent ep. thank you for making it!
You talked about CRTs like they're such a bad technology, but they were still better than LCDs and even better than OLED in some ways. The near-infinite horizontal pixels would've been really nice. I get that CRTs are analog and have some drawbacks, but even still, I'd love to see how the technology would exist with 2022 tech inside. I bet it'd be a lot nicer than we remember. You also completely skipped over Plasma. Pretty sure Plasma is just mini CRTs.
Content is lit as always 💡
In one of your older vides you mentioned how your mother said that your voice could put people to sleep. But it turns out it's just the right tone and timbre for this kind of informative content.
A CRT, while incapable of large sizes actually had the ability to create true black which and an LCD can not.
Displays with individual emitters per pixels I think will always have uniformity issues or divergent aging problems of the pixels. It was with CRT, plasma and OLED.
@chefchaudard3580
Жыл бұрын
The issue with LEDs is that their brightness decreases with time, leading to 'patchy' displays. Other than that, colours, viewing angles remain very consistent with time.
The display industry has been working for years to get back to the CRT black levels. CRT Monitors had the advantage displaying the actual resolution they were set to, unlike the monitors today which use tricks to display the requested resolution.
interesting video on a rather complex and potentially new and exciting technology. Just saw 2023 CES piece on Samsung exhibiting a Micro-LED set.
I love your research and analysis of a topic so in depth, and getting to the core of issues. But still your meme's make me think, where does he find those? 😂😂
It's a challenge they should overcome. It just might take longer than we expected.
I made a prototype device today for an idea I had, it uses tiny tiny 0201 size LEDs (they are such small specks that you can barely even feel them if you rub your fingers together), it was not actually that difficult to place with tweezers.
@InvictraX
Жыл бұрын
One time at work I had to assemble 3600 of those small 0201 LEDs because the P&P machine had problems with the packaging tape.
Think about it this way.. OLEDs were already being prototyped in the 90s, I remember writing an article on them in primary school... but OLED TVs are still not affordable 30 years later, if you consider the fact that their lifespan is only about 5 years of actual use...
Seems like quantum dots is the way to go. When Linus was looking at the wall, it's not low power, it puts out a ton of heat that needs extra ac, and the smaller panels that lock together to make a large panel isn't color calibrated. So if one panel goes out put a new one in the colors are slightly off, and the panel go out often enough. The 146 size is 5.76 m/2 uses 2990 watts max. And needs 10,212 BTU of cooling. This is the second smallest one.
Thank you for yet another excellent tech overview (though somehow your history of displays at the beginning of the video missed that LCDs were used for quite a while without LED illumination).
I'd love to see a video from you talking about Laser-phosphor Displays, aka the next gen CRTs
People up to 2019 on a nostalgia trip on youtube were laughing at old television series where now laughably outdated, then bleeding edge computers cost $5-10k. Nobody is laughing now. Price brackets for every single category of item even remotely related to information technology just keep increasing and things get less and less affordable. I have perfect vision (actually my right eye is 20/16 instead of 20/20), and between my 159 PPI monitor and 534 PPI phone I couldn't care less which one I'm staring at. Who are these screens for? People with money to waste to enjoy the placebo effect of sunk cost?
@LOCATlON
Жыл бұрын
no thought provoking questions please 😤
Loved that video!
4:58 'sloshing around'. This metaphor pleases me.
Great video. Not sure if this is within your knowledge, but I’d love a video on virtualisation and its future, particularly within the context of the Broadcom/VMWare deal. Thank you!
Given the difficulty and the costs involved it's looking more and more like MicroLED displays may never come to market in the kinds of quantities that everyone was originally hoping for. That entire area of technology may well just be skipped and/or set aside while others (and older technologies that can be mass-produced affordably) are updated, advanced and approved upon. And, that's all perfectly fine as not all technology necessarily needs to find its way through to direct commercial viability. Besides, there is still a LOT more performance that can still be squeezed out of existing display tech like LCD and OLED. Every year companies find new way to improv on those platforms as well.
Nice. Quality research. Thx
I must've missed the memo on Micro LEDs. I have never heard about this technology before, thank's for the learning experience :-)
RIP Nick Holonyak, inventor of the LED.
You mentioned a couple of mass transfer methods but there are others as well like laser based transfer and stamp based transfer. Allegedly samsung electronics is using laser based transfer for their 2022 microled tvs.
Fantastic video. Thanks.
0:20 the contrast ratio of CRTs was MUCH better than the one of LCDs! The brightness level probably as well, at least on average.
@Dave_the_Dave
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I was going to make the same comment. The contrast ratio as well as motion resolution was much better on surface emitting displays like CRT and Plasma than even modern LCDs. It's too bad that sample-and-hold is likely here to stay.
@rkan2
Жыл бұрын
I dunno ... I used many CRTs but didn't really ever think their contrast was that good after using an LCD. Maybe it was because of their brightness. I still have a Sony GDM-W900 and tbh it looks like ****. The response time is why I've kept it though.
@anonanous3129
Жыл бұрын
I've always noticed the overlap between CRT fans, Morrowind fans and clinical obesity.
@tobore9559
Жыл бұрын
@@anonanous3129 you made my day
Quality content, keep going 🌟🌟
I take exception to the introduction in the first few moments of the video. CRT monitors in their final years of manufacture were freaking amazing, but expensive and heavy.
Thanks for the information :)
Awesome review
Just fyi, "The Wall" tv is probably a reference to an old sci-fi novel, "Fahrenheit 451".
Thank you. Most often I enjoy listening to your information. It appears to me at least, the content conveyed is concise, clear, and easy to comprehend from a layperson's perspective. Well done indeed.
What about A pick and place style roller? Using MEMS to hold on via negative pressure, then slowly rotate the roller onto the substrate, but move the substrate at the same time to get the desired spacing. (and up/down to not catch any LEDs by accident). Or combining fluidic self assembly with pick and place to make chiplets that can be effectively assembled? Also, as someone else noted, a QD layer over blue LEDs is most likely where the industry will go. Consolidating 3 LED types into just one seems the best to increase output consistency and reduce R&D expenditure in fabrication when it's more needed in assembly. And final side note: Thoughts on optical antennas?
If you grow them on sapphire (already transparent) then why not just grow three layers, plate/mask/etch the conductive lattice onto each and then stack them? Each layer could just shine through if they're offset correctly
I would work toward a stacked geometry. Red on the bottom can be largest and has insufficient energy to excite green or blue carriers into conduction. Similar considerations apply to the green under blue interface. We do need to prevent the light going the other way, which can be done with dichroic mirrors. Lattice matching among these layers and material purity/control may limit yield, but I think this will win in the long term.
Leds did NOT free us from CRTs. For the first years for Desktop Monitors, the back light came from fluorescent tubes.
Something in my head lit up!
Thanks!
So from my perspective there are two options to make this somewhat easier. 1) Construct the panel from only blue LEDs and then use quantum dots for the red and green sub pixels. Solves the need for green and red LEDs. 2)Do away with LEDs altogether and use electrical charge to directly stimulate blue quantum dots. Then use red and green quantum dots after the blue ones for those sub pixels.
@sunspot42
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the huge advantage of quantum dots is they can just be printed on a substrate, if memory serves. They're talking about using quantum dots in solar panels as well. Solar cells absorb certain wavelengths better than others, so use quantum dots to shift the incoming white light of incompatible frequencies into those compatible frequencies. You could greatly improve the efficiency of the solar cell. Problem right now is that the quantum dots we know how to make would probably degrade pretty quickly in full sunlight, but that's likely an issue that can be resolved.
@brodriguez11000
Жыл бұрын
@@sunspot42 Some display drawing tablets use Q-dots.
Thank you. Excellent.
Would love to know more about how OLED's are made
great summary
Thank you 👍
Thanks for condensing all of that egghead material to an understandable data stream - sorry for your headaches and bloodshot eyes. Thanks for sharing.
We also had CCFLs.
Great video
Interesting area of technology that I had never even heard of. I enjoy your graphic memes to punctuate points.
Man we need a follow up with corrections wrt information on CRTs in this video.
Enlightening
Outstanding video! Bravo! A couple of minor issues: the key advantage with microLEDs is brightness - I.e. being able to use them outdoors. Also, 20 microns is fine for a mobile phone display and 100microns us fine for a large TV display.
@brodriguez11000
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Big enough for a faux window.
@patrickdegenaar9495
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@@brodriguez11000 a 55" TV with stripey RGB pixels, would have each pixel 105 microns each. admittedly there needs to be some space in between. But you get the picture... 🙂
@swecreations
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His description of CRT monitors is wildly inaccurate however, they had perfect blacks and instant response times.
cool, never knew it was so complex! hopefully by the time microled comes out, it'll cost around 10G's for a 75" 8K microled tv. :)
@larryc1616
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And like OLED will cost $2k in 6 years
Video that shines!
my dear lord, these videos are extremely informative
Cathode ray tube tech did do HD they were not as bad as you initially said they could have done 4k as well we shifted tech before they were developed commercially Should be pointed out that because these devices were so heavy, (the larger the screen , the thicker and heavier the glass ) we have most likely saved untold amounts of oil not having to ship all of that heavy display technology. In audition, because they are so much thinner and lighter more of it this display tech could be fit into smaller spaces. They are more efficient and use much less electricity. I would love to have someone calculatie how much the switch from CRTs to flat screen technologies has saved the environment and energy costs on all levels of the value chain.
@techpriest4787
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They also have high response. Hence gamers sticking with CRT longer.
@lfraser7128
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Yep, I’m still prefer a crt over anything else.
@watchm4ker
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@@techpriest4787 Not exactly. They have near-zero response times when dealing with an uncompressed analogue signal, since all it needs is synchronization and amplification. But a digital video signal would still have to be decompressed and turned into analogue inputs for the beam.
@ntabile
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One of the practical drawback is power consumption and bulkiness.
@stepbruv8780
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Imagine 4K cathode ray screen weight around 100kg each
Informative!
Can't wait to buy one of these.
@TonyRule
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Is your life really that empty?
I see the fluid self assembly process work awesome on single colored panels, but how the hell you make it work on every third?(or fourth)
fluidic self assembly is cool to the point that i hope it's the technique that ends up winning in the end
@HansSchulze
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Ultrasonic fluid for placement...
@andreamitchell4758
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@@HansSchulze I was thinking the same thing I wonder if they could combine fluidic self assembly or a similar technique that would be assisted with ultrasound resonance and or acoustic suspension technology to vibrate the LED's into place /watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w /watch?v=MnjKa3EZXwg maybe the micro LED's each have their own unique enough resonant frequency already or if not maybe some extra element could be added to make them resonate at different desired frequencies so they could be steered individually into place by the ultrasound.
@HansSchulze
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@@andreamitchell4758 Resonance is usually mass or size related, so that might not help.
Whoa whoa whoa. CRT's are awesome.
Very interesting! But you didn't talk about MicroLED pared with QD, like the new OLED QD !
Man.... Love you bro
Intresting report as usual. Never heard much about this micro led technology before. Anyway, besides all common display technologies, promises and the race of resolutions that already reached a point that human eye can't differ from a distance, the question of technology should also be which technology saves the most amount of power? Most (in Germany sold) TV sets have an very bad energy label. Since I know now about the light intesety effects of the red micro led depending on the size, this technology maybe could not save more power than a (led) backlight powered display.
ooh _that_ shockley, sure yeah, now i understand. I was thinking of _another_ shockley... 😂
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
I don't think micro led TV's will ever be a mainstream thing.
Let there be light!
Seriously, how do you even research this broadly within semiconductor lol? Great content!