Remarkably technical, informative and engaging review. Will be following your work going forward.

Great review--- we need more from him---been absolute sound reader since 1981---have every copy since plus a few of the earlier issues--- we owe this magazine for driving manufacturers to higher levels,etc--great job Michael

Great review by the way

@TheTASmagazine

27 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Have had the full Gyrodec (with Perspex plinth) for many years. It’s fitted with a Gryropower power supply, which makes a small but definite improvement. Tested against Alphason and Linn LP12 and preferred the Gyrodec. This deck can take the best tonearms. I changed the stock Rega arm for a vintage Japanese Fidelity Research FR64s and it made a huge improvement to detail and transients.

Thank you for a very articulate review of a brilliant British designed turntable that has evolved over the decades. I wonder how good it would sound with an Origin Live tonearm, perhaps the Encounter. I imagine this combination would sound amazing with the added benefit of the OL tonearms being Rega fit. Many thanks, much appreciated.

Very nice review - I enjoyed it!

Great review. You did your homework and covered all the important bases. There are some new reviewers on this Chanel should take some notes from you. I think we know who they are.😊

Great review! I’ve owned this table for several years and I highly recommend the power supply, arm and Orbe upgrades. This table can grow with you. I have a SME 309 arm and Lyra Kleos cartridge so there is much room to improve off the base. The gyro platter looks cooler but the Orbe platter tamed the highs and firmly rooted the bass. This table is unfairly overlooked

@analogueman5364

Ай бұрын

100% agree. Never connected power supply and Orbe upgrade transforms the Gyros otherwise slightly polite presentation. Also bin the springs for Pylons - makes another improvement in soundstage and speed stability/wow and flutter.

That's a nice balanced review, and well done in the choice of the iconic and very British black Fred Perry shirt to present the review of this iconic British turntable :) You can upgrade to the HR PSU, however there is a speed trim pot on the supplied basic PSU so you could correct for that slight speed error. Pairs great with their own TecnoArm which does come with VTA adjustment, a silver wiring loom, underslung counterweight and re-machined arm tube including perforations and damping. So quite a change on the basic starter arm. The HR supply does provide a very slightly cleaner DC current but this is very much a marginal reduction in noise. Ultimately you have a bouncy deck, a rubber band and DC motor without taco correction so this is never going to be an SL1200 in that regard. Well worth spending more time on the suspension with these decks since spring rotation is just as important as height to achieve the correct bounce, which in turn impacts W&F. It's important to remove lateral stress from the springs - difficult as they all interact - for best results. That still won't get you Technics stability but it can match something like a good modern Linn LP12 or say a Rega P10.

The EMI white/gold label is probably the most beautiful/artistic label ever created.

Super review. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what this compares to with the technoarm and PSU, perhaps even the pylons. I imagine P10 territory or beyond....

The Arm boards are available for almost any arm and they are machined so the combined mass of the Arm plus arm plate is always 1kg, ensuring that the suspended deck is always balanced. The bearing sleeve has a helix machined into it so it pumps oil from the reservoir at the bottom of the shaft to the top of the bearing as the platter rotates, ensuring perfect lubrification. The oil then drops down to the bottom through the off-center hole at the top of the shaft. So it's a circulating oil pump bearing.

Beautiful, but the lack of VTA adjustment (unless you upgrade the arm) and lack of speed adjustment is a deal-breaker. This would make an excellent buy decades ago, but many modern turntables have since passed it by.

@007soedal

17 күн бұрын

The speed adjustment can be done from a screw inside the power supply. Mine started to play a bit to slow. Adjusted it, and now it plays at perfect speed.

Michael, How does it compare to the Pure Fidelity? Have you heard the Origin Live Sovereign?

I have the full spec non spider/skeleton edition. I was very surprised you found the turntable lacks a wide sound stage as that is what the Gyrodec is highly regarded for is its huge soundstage width at the expense of a little depth. Indeed, my Gyrodec has a very wide soundstage. I think maybe what you are hearing could be down to the speakers or Arm/ Cartridge combination. The beauty with the Gyrodec is it can take even better arms and Cartridges such as the SME IV or V 12" arms, without the need to go to the jaw dropping sound of the Orbe. However I think the price in the USA looks to be substantially higher than here in the UK. I also have ASD 259 Lollipops, the EW1 first edition on a scalloped back cover (first pressing) and it sounds glorious on my Gyrodec using a Rega RB300 and Vertere Sabre MM Cartridge. Despite a few minor disagreements over its sound a very enjoyable video. I will be subscribing 👍😁

$6k for “not terrible” speed control? No thanks.

@dabbidaa1547

5 күн бұрын

There are lots of more affordable options out there for you.

@edd2771

5 күн бұрын

@@dabbidaa1547I can afford any table I want. I just won’t buy one (at any price) with “not terrible” speed control.

So many turntables out there basing. designs originaring directly from the Oracle Delphi originally built in 1979, itself incrementally but vastly improved to this day.

A Rega planar 8, at about half the price, will be indistinguishable from this table in a blind a/b compare using the same cart and all else equal in the systems.

Great job on the review. Glad to have you back. Are you going to review the pure fidelity turntable that next to the Michell. Very interested in that table.

VTA can be simple, the three boulds witch connect armboard with table, can accept some 1/2 mm nylon rings, you can position the arm with the back higher.(maybe longer boults are needed)this can be fiddly because trail and error adding more rings. Azimuth can also be simple, place a needle (perpendicular to the record) straight front to back between cartridge and headshell, now you can rock the cartridge left to right, using the cartridge boulds (another positive is vibration from the cartridge can't propagate to the arm that easy) If you like better performance for little money, you can use a battery to drive the motor. Two 12 volt battery ''s in series, and a regulator for 24 volts max, AC or DC in, DC out, with a good potentiometer, cost about 150€, effect is rather suprising better rythmic drive and dynamic. Price is steep, I've got Lucky on a second hand one for 1200€.🤗

The speed adjustment can be done from a screw inside the power supply. After a few years mine started to play a bit to slow. Adjusted it, and now it plays at perfect speed.

@dabbidaa1547

5 күн бұрын

Hope you didnt do that with a phone app.

@007soedal

5 күн бұрын

@@dabbidaa1547 I used a phone app. Maybe not perfect, but my Gyrodec played way to slow. Very easy to hear it compared to cd/streaming. Now the speed and music sound the same on. the different platforms.

Overall, for rock & jazz, how would it compare with, say, VPI Prime Signature?

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Thank you for bringing up the need for adjustable VTA. I looked at the top of the line Rega and how can you have a $13000 turn table with no VTA adjustment? Answer: You can't. No way you can mount a high priced MC cartridge and not dial in the VTA. Period. The Hana Red is especially finicky to VTA. Overall an excellent review. I owned a Gyrodec in the past and enjoyed it greatly. Do agree about the outboard power supply...a must...

@user-zb8qb2vb7q

Ай бұрын

Rega ''s are built as a complete system, if you use their cartridges VTA is perfect, and the three bould cartridge mount position the cartridge perfectly, without all kinds of mechanical problems introduced because adjustment is needed. Kiss is rega's second name. 🤔

After I owned their Techno Dec, this one has been on my list for quite some time now. Hopefully not too far down the road. BTW, the Techno Arm I had on that TT was really quite good for the money.

Did you test the speed (RPM) and W&F with a record on platter and the needle on the groove?

Great review Michael.

i still like my sota sapphire , amen

Wait till you hear what the pylon upgrade does to this

I've been very happy to own such a well thought out turntable. I have the older Techno arm "A" on mine and think the reviewers reservation about the soundstage might be arm related, because my soundstage is very expansive. although I am not sensitive to speed irregularities when the music is playing , I do plan to get the upgraded power supply to tighten the clarity, although at this point it is only because of the accepted theoretical concepts of motor design needs, not because I hear something that bugs me. . I will then upgrade the arm , I think the spinner is that good , that it can be appropriate to a high end arm. And putting the money into the arm is much smarter than buying a string of expensive consumable cartridges to try for the same goal of upgraded sound. one of the indications of the cleverness of this cost limited design was mentioned in the review, how the mid range is delivered . since the human voice is in the mid range, as is most music, a turntable voiced for excellent mid range performance is a great choice, if one can't have everything. I was originally attracted to a suspended design because I heard they were good on bass , but once you get to this level of performance , it's superior on every level , so addresses far more than one possible system shortcoming.

Good evening. Can you recommend me three arm plates up to €8000 ..???

someone may like the golden rod, for me it is too disturburing as it creates flickering, just like the lighiting inside a tunnel.

0.2% wow and flutter is really bad for that money and it should be easily audible with longer notes.

So, Nothing new here... ?? note Your comment > I had an original AR t'table bought new way back... suspended. a mid 1970's Pioneer, had both thick pressed wood board ( speaker box material ) and suspended ..... thorens of course, I bought a new 103 a couple years ago - 1 1/2 in thick pressed wood and springs.... as long as I'm writing - I hate the fully molded H'shell /arm - those 4 tiny wires into back of Cartridge . Very fragile and what happens when one breaks... your expensive t'table instantly becomes worth about 2 cents. At minimum the technics / SME style should be used. or the original technics ( ?? ) simple plug cartridge into end of arm. this is NOT 1970 , all this should be worked out.

Gold plated not bruss 😊

@richardelliott8352

Ай бұрын

just was reading a post from a guy who wore off his gold plate from cleaning, , sent it back to the factory to get it re finished and got the current treatment which is clear coated polished brass, the clear coat is more durable than the thin plating.

I especially dislike TT's that require handling of the belt to change speed. The motor is too cheap/simple to even accommodate electronic speed changes. I'm sorry to offend anyone with my opinion but I can't accept the lack of engineering at this price point.

A smartphone is not an accurate measuring device for practically anything. Those apps are for some fun, not for serious measurement work.

Overrated.. My Technics GR flaws my Gyro... Far more weight thru my Tannoys.. I only have 8 turntables

@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape

Ай бұрын

Puny human only 8 TT’s …

Very informative review. Unfortunately, you didn't compare The Michell with the other record player shown in your video. A missed opportunity to greatly improve your review. What a pity!

Pronounced Mitchell. Michelle is a female pronunciation.

Fred Perry are a polarizing brand; it is one I associate with hatred. Whether or not that is the message intended to be communicated here - and I suspect the more likely intention is to pair a British clothing brand with a British turntable brand - it shouldnt be a brand repped in a video for a company (TAS) channel. On a personal channel, go for it, but it's a bad look on a company's channel.

@poetryonplastic

29 күн бұрын

I associate the brand Adidas with the band Korn. I am now going to comment on every video and photo of someone wearing sneakers or a track suit “Are you in Korn?!?” “How can you publicly support Nu Metal???” Just doing my part.

@highrantdistrict

29 күн бұрын

@@poetryonplastic Probably due to me living in Portland, when I see Fred Perry the first thing that comes to mind is Proud Boys.

@nasdkhan254

28 күн бұрын

Don't be silly

A lot of excuses for a pricey turntable.

Remarkably technical, informative and engaging review. Will be following your work going forward.