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I love how Tom waited for the room to clear before he questioned the decision.. he was the best counciliere… your out Tom

@ozzyistheking21

Ай бұрын

Consigliere

@Kgio-2112

22 күн бұрын

I admired it, didn't love it. Amore'

@Tallahassee21

21 күн бұрын

He was pretty lousy as Consigliere. When he says he's not a war time Consigliere, he means it specifically cause he didn't see that barzini was the one pulling the strings.

@ethrsag735

18 күн бұрын

​@@Tallahassee21 More like it was due to how Tom advised peace with an enemy who would have respected it.

@DavidFobare

15 күн бұрын

Tom was not in fact the best consigliere. The real purpose of the meeting was to force either Clemenza or Tessio into Barzini’s embrace.

Tom Hagen felt like he got kicked in the stomach but Michael is doing it to keep him clean for other things.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

People saying he lacked charme and peoples skills imo misunderstand the scene. This is all carefully constructed by Vito to keep the inage of a weakening family to the outside and the capos to weed out the traitor in the making. This meeting is not to reasdure but make the capos doubt Michael to see if they were loyal even being weaker. It worked and later Michael also showed his peoples skills with Rocco etc. Thanks to this plan the family then was strong again well besides Fredo.

You're out Tom. Cold 🥶

@jonathanruano4973

Ай бұрын

What I find interesting about that scene is that it shows Michael combining the best of Tom's intelligence with Santino's decisiveness. Tom was always a pretty smart and thoughtful person, but his cautious nature worked against him in high pressure situations like a mafia war. Santino, on the other hand, was almost fearless in his decisiveness, but lacked the calculating intellect to be patient -- which resulted in him making suboptimal decisions. I think Michael noticed Tom and Santino's weaknesses and he recognized that there were some grounds for Santino's frustration with Tom's aversion to conflict (for example, Santino once shouted that if he had a true wartime counciliere, he "wouldn't be in this mess." That's cold too, but I think there is some truth to that) -- even though Santino was wrong in most other respects. So Michael shrewdly leaves out Tom for the time being with a view to finding a place for him later on, while employing Veto Corleone (who knows how to handle mafia conflicts better than most people) as the wartime counciliere.

@scottlewis8386

Ай бұрын

​@@jonathanruano4973you said exactly what I was thinking. You just said so elegantly. Great observation 👍

@gbonkers666

18 күн бұрын

I think that it was just a start of MIcheal trying to get the family legitamate. But, he tells Tom that when he leaves in Godfather 2, he wants Tom to take over the family for awhile. Everything that Mike did to get the Corleones out of the business...but as he says in the III, "everytime I want out, they pull me back in."

Keep Tom innocent 😢

@cerronebrown990

Ай бұрын

That’s not why Tom was out. He was not a war time counselor like Sunny said earlier in the movie.

@sonnydabutcher6160

Ай бұрын

Yea that’s true but in all reality he shielded Tom made him safety valve he was the only one he could trust with his life and family

Best movie in history

@moviecutsrecaps

Ай бұрын

indeed!

@jamessollazzo4860

Ай бұрын

i acquired the nickname "turk" from it!

@JoshGibson-fb7mf

Ай бұрын

🤡

Tessios left hand shake meaning of dislike

@Spruce_Bingsteen

20 күн бұрын

@jazzypenguin4401 ... Great catch and attention to detail! I love this movie and that had never dawned on me. Well done Jazzy!

@marylandman12

12 күн бұрын

Exactly, and that's why Tessio was kissing Barzini's ass and betrayed Michael

Michael: “You’re out Tom.” Period, end of story

i like the way Neary walks the room hands in front, even though its Vitos inner circle he looks ready to protect Michael at the drop of a hat

The world is evil. You have to be prepared.

@Kgio-2112

Ай бұрын

Like the boy scouts

@hgsgknnnmmlolb

22 күн бұрын

World is evil Mike is the dev!l😂

@striker7469

22 күн бұрын

@@hgsgknnnmmlolb You wanna live with a brother like Freddo?! Your call.

Sonny was a bad don… rip

They needed Tom to be the squeaky clean lawyer for the Vegas operation. By cutting him loose of the Barzini angle, Michael was making sure Tom would focus on the next important move: Vegas. Not sure why Tom questioned this and took it as an insult when it was the best thing to do for the family and for Tom. The Old Man reassured Tom and as Michael said, what better consigliere than the Old Man. But Tom kept questioning the move and Michael got pissed and shut him up: “you’re out Tom!”.

Michael shows how bad he is with people. None of his father's charm. None of his ability to reassure his capos.

@moviecutsrecaps

Ай бұрын

He has his own way of running the business.

@tofu8688

21 күн бұрын

I always viewed the transition from Vito to Michael as the transition from family to business

@kennytesta9312

21 күн бұрын

He was not the man his father was

@Pdmc-vu5gj

21 күн бұрын

@@tofu8688 That's true. Michael was certainly all business. But if you read the sequels of the godfather, you lose all empathy for Michael. Vito inspired loyalty because his capos loved him. Michael inspired loyalty because everyone feared him.

@michaelconti5787

18 күн бұрын

True. But Michael is doing what Vito wants. Vito was just as ruthless as Michael. If they feared Michael, then they had reason to fear Vito just as much. Vito beheaded a horse and killed people. I’m guessing that Tessio would’ve betrayed the Corleone family regardless of who was in charge. If Vito was more of a family man, that doesn’t make him any less ruthless.

A masterpiece

@moviecutsrecaps

2 ай бұрын

indeed

Al Pacino was so very handsome what a gorgeous Italian man❤❤❤❤ always love u al

@robertcialone6609

4 күн бұрын

You mean even with the hunchback you’re a groupie!!

Never let a poor man be the boss

You see Tom all our people are business people their loyalty lies on that! Gee Mike I been with the Family since childhood thanks for explaining this to me couldn’t figure on my own! I know I’m not a wartime 😢consigliere!!

I wonder when told everyone Tom was out, if he was also testing Tom’s loyalty.

@moviecutsrecaps

Ай бұрын

No. He was just changing the strategy. He never disbeliefed Tom

@mitchjames9350

Ай бұрын

Tom was let in on the plan when Vito died

@cosmomontanaro5759

Ай бұрын

Tom was just more useful as a lawyer at this point.

@tony.bickert

10 күн бұрын

Yes

Was fish working undercover

My,Bible!

it was a big mistake to fire tom

@Richie3264

Ай бұрын

They weren't firing Tom, they were insulating him from a mob war, they knew he was an intellectual not a fighter

@alatamore

Ай бұрын

No it wasn’t. Firing Tom was essential to ensure he WASN’T going to be the traitor. Vito and Mike knew Bardzini would get to someone at the top who would betray Mike after Vito died. Firing Tom at this point ensured he wouldn’t be that traitor.

@mayanksinghbhadoria3905

Ай бұрын

Tom got no balls he ain't gencho

@mitchjames9350

Ай бұрын

@@alatamoreno it was to legitimise Tom and have him look after Vegas while Vito takes over. Tom isn’t a war councillor

That pan and scan shit is annoying

Let the blood spill...and it did!

Id rather die than live another moment in this dead ass town.

The godfather is touted as a masterpiece by some, but honestly it is boring. Mostly just talking. Blah blah blah, boring as hell.

@moviecutsrecaps

2 ай бұрын

everyone has different taste in movies. I respect that.

@erictrenbeath9680

2 ай бұрын

Not enough explosions, car crashes, and superhero stunts for you?

@macondo0143

2 ай бұрын

@@erictrenbeath9680 forgive him.... one day he saw a man killing three men with a pencil in a bar and since that day on, he is not the same. LOL

@angrylambie

2 ай бұрын

🥨🍟🧂

@grawakendream8980

2 ай бұрын

honestly i was just thinking that as i was watching this. maybe how it's rendered here, with the camera moving back and forth, makes it more burdensome. but this clip felt pretty boring, and i've seen the movie a lot