Michael Jackson and Diana Ross TOXIC SECRET Love Affair! He PROPOSED! Michael Jackson Truly loved Diana Ross! #michaeljackson
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@mjdr_4ever3196 ай бұрын
I agree. People seem to forget that Diana once called Berry Gordy her father, lover, friend and obviously they had a romantic relationship. Why can't that also be true for Michael and Diana since he also referred to her as his mother, lover, friend
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
She has a children with Berry Gordy
@deannac5026 Жыл бұрын
He didn't want Diana to be his mother he wanted her to be his wife
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
I felt that too
@jiml8637
Жыл бұрын
She IS his mother
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@jiml8637 No she is not. Katherine is his mother. Ms Di was the love of his life.
@Thatonequitekid2
Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda weird don’t you think? When they met Michael was 10 and she was already a fully grown ass woman 😂
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@Thatonequitekid2d No bcuz ain't nothin happen till he was grown.. just like Elvis and Celine Dion...
@JessB1810 Жыл бұрын
I think he was in love with her until his last breath, you don't leave the custody of your children to anyone, and michael left it to her after his mother
@dolly-gq9lr
9 ай бұрын
She was the Lady in his life. However, to many it would have been as a taboo relationship.
@angelarivera7034 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I just saw Diana Ross perform live at the Breast Cancer Research Foundation Hot Pink Gala two weeks ago and the second she started singing I said to myself “OMG I know now why Michael loved her so much”. She’s literally magic, at 79 she’s effortlessly flawless. Very interesting to hear the history. Thanks 👌🏽
@lydiamooney715 Жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson was a beautiful looking man, after his first nose job omg he was just stunning pity he kept changing himself .
@finderkeeperrrs
9 ай бұрын
Quit the bs. It didn't help that he had vitiligo and lupus, and even Pepsi commercial burn. He was always handsome
@forevermichaelsp.y.t7378
6 ай бұрын
Ok... he was beautiful always inside and out. He hated the way he looked because his father bullied him about it. He also had a history of skin conditions, vitiligo, which destroys the pigmentation in the skin, and lupus. He also received 2nd and 3rd degree sculp burns after an accident in 1984 while shooting a pepsi commercial. This kick-started his addiction to painkillers because he was in pain in the years following the accident. I believe he had to have some surgery done because of it, but also he had to wear a wig because some of that hair didn't grow back. He had his first nose job around 1978/79 because he broke his nose. But yes... he was gorgeous in his younger years
@darkandlovely
5 ай бұрын
He was always beautiful. Before and after his first nose job. He just had issues with how he looked because his family teasing and bullying him.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@darkandlovely He was always beautiful to me. Sad the evil media was actually doctoring his pics to make him look crazy!!
@lamiadingle201111 ай бұрын
All I know is... Remember the Time is dedicated to Diana Ross, and that's Facts. Soooo.....
@michaelangelo1624011 ай бұрын
In Taborelli's book it was reported by Frank Dileo that MJ didnt want to look like his father, that was the reason for his surgeries..
@peacepocket6 ай бұрын
Jermaine Jackson said that Michael’s told him his song Remember The Time was written about Fiana.
@rhondapalmer156410 ай бұрын
They definitely smashed idc wat nobody say!!!!! Michael was smashing during the “ Wiz”, Off the wall early Thriller Era” Definitely!!!!
@DieshaShakela
10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jordanmitchell9742
7 ай бұрын
Listen I wouldn’t even disagree with you… Michael is the shy type but the shy ones are always different behind closed doors. 👀
@PavethaWay
Ай бұрын
Your next....
@taylorsara253 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. He wasn't ever trying to look like her. His mom said he'd been in love with her since he was a teen And it just got stronger. They never rly parted they just went on the DZl and kept it in the closet bc that's what Diana wanted. MJ ALWAYS loved her and fought for decades to be with her. He Should have given up, but he never rly did. He admitted Most of his songs were f/ her and he threw many good women away bc Di came back acting like she'd finally be his... Yet he STILL put her in his will and left this msg on his last liv'g album to her Ultimate Nov 2004 To Diana Ross, I loved u in the early yrs I LOVE U EVEN MORE NOW! I Love u Diana!!
@jiml8637
Жыл бұрын
Shes his mom
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@jiml8637 Take your meds...
@KaykayWilliAm
9 ай бұрын
Did Diana Ross date Barry gibbs? I sure hope not.
@KaykayWilliAm
9 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkwhen did mj and Diana first officially date? Was this while Diana was married to silberstien
@rehanapathan7572
7 ай бұрын
In which album I can found this message?
@Lakena25524 ай бұрын
I believe everything you said was true because back in the day there was speculation going around that Michael Jackson lost his virginity to Diana Ross and that Michael was so in love and head over hills for Diana Ross that he wanted to start a family with Diana Ross but when Diana got married to another guy as you mentioned in your video Michael was highly upset and jealous that Diana Ross didn't marry him despite the huge age gap between them! And it was also said that Michael and Diana fell out with each other for years over their toxic relationship Michael felt it wasn't fair to him that diana married another man and not him it was crazy!!!!! 😮
@maryhiggins5430 Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said but I believe it lasted longer that’s why he had a hard time being with someone else…✌🏽
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
It lasted forever. Just as he said it would .He was in love with her when he took his last breath
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkAgreed...
@auchiethomas2560 Жыл бұрын
Awww Michael loved diana
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
He really did! It was beautiful 😍
@vlogginmylife
10 ай бұрын
I had no idea but I was a kid
@Mia-840 Жыл бұрын
You are correct i thought the same you can tell when they would perform together the chemistry was a million
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right!! Did you see the clip in the video where she is calling him sexy and he says she is too! Yeah they tried to keep it playful.
@bryanoquinnvevo6 ай бұрын
... this intriguing theory about Diana Ross and Michael Jackson. It's quite remarkable how love and connections can transcend age and circumstances, right? And despite the gossip, it's clear that Michael had a deep affection for Diana. Leaving your children in your will is a testament to the love you hold for them. It's heartwarming to think about the bond they may have shared. Let's focus on the positive and celebrate the incredible legacies!❤
@daninedoane7002 Жыл бұрын
He was totally in love with Diana Ross. He was inspired to say the least.
@happyfeet5530 Жыл бұрын
Dang, just now learming about this. I always wondered why he named his album dirty diana
@SimplyBeingTT Жыл бұрын
I agree. I believe something happened between the two and it was beautiful. In addition to the late 70s and 80s, I also think they may have been on and off at some points in the 90s to early 2000s. I don't think he was getting surgery to look like her though. I say that because OTW era was when there was the most resemblance between the two, and that was before he started getting a bunch of stuff done. At that point, he had only gotten maybe one nose job. So, I think the resemblance was naturally there. They both have those big, bright eyes, similar skin tone, and slight similarity in bone structure. It's a shame, they probably would have made some beautiful babies.
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right! I love the way you summed this up!! Could've been amazing 💙💜
@lelecheesy
Жыл бұрын
She’s known him since a young kid. That’s not beautiful
@earthangel90210
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesyright that definition grooming but I guess
@SimplyBeingTT
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesy Then why watch something so disgusting?
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesy Celine knew her husband since she was 12..pricilla knew Elvis since she was 14 guess that wasn't grooming huh. It's only wrong when it's black folks right?
@user-nf7uh8is8h4 ай бұрын
Mjs love of his life was Diana they were 2x engaged.he never STOP chasing for Diana up to the last breath He even put Diana on his last will to be second guardian to his children in case somethng happen to Katherine...thats a fact
@DieshaShakela
4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! The love was beautiful
@sabriyahsmith3466 ай бұрын
This break down was deep!!! Thank you! That was in love!!!! wow!!!
@shakiya26 ай бұрын
This is very deep. Plus, the question is: "How did Diana Ross know about Michael's sexuality?" 🤔 But of course, the industry is a twisted place to be involved in. Thank you for sharing your deep dive with us. 😎👍🏼
@purplebanana6420
5 ай бұрын
You dont have to sleep wit someone to know their sexuality he probably got aroused
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
How do u think she knew? She was "doing him"
@shakiya2
4 ай бұрын
@@taylorsara1237 I agree with you. The industry tried to twist it and say that Michael made up the name (Diana) for the song... but it had to be because of his first "love": Diana Ross. 😔 Continue resting well, Michael.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@shakiya2 No he didnt. They HATE for us aboriginals to lovr US!! That's why they constantly tried to pair him with WW! U can find the real definition for DD on blog king Michael and the live of his life... Zit was definitely about Diana. She was his whole world....
@sinenhlanhlaukndlovu859411 ай бұрын
It's really wild how everybody on here is saying that this was a beautiful thing. Like WTF😖!!! it's sick!!!
@provocateurjoseph69 Жыл бұрын
I, like you appear to as well, believe something did go on between these 2. Who's mother or mother-like figure you've ever known to address their child as "sexy"? Where they dothat at? 🤔 Also, I agree that Diana was concerned with how this relationship would look in regards to her image. She met him when he was child; so there would've been a publicity nightmare for her to openly express any type of sexual relationship with him. Although I believe they didn't do anything sexual until Michael was between 18-20 years of age, the mere facts of her being 14 years older & knowing him as a child would of conjured up criticism of inappropriateness/grooming. For the record, I respectfully disagree with many who believe the song "Dirty Diana" was about Diana Ross. I do believe other songs of his was about her though like "Blue Gangsta", "Can't Let Her Get Away", "Who Is It" & several others.
@NomsaNonyane-gm4hzАй бұрын
Michael loved Diana so dearly period.
@alextalkandsingyoutubechan46487 ай бұрын
I agree it all makes sense now
@bryanoquinnvevo6 ай бұрын
❤🎵" Evidently, nobody but me would remember this, but when 'Remember the Time' came out, the first edition was on a cassette single or one of the early releases, if you will. On the back of it, Michael Jackson had the inscription 'Remember the Time' dedicated to his beloved Diana Ross. And hey, in 1985, when they did 'Eaten Alive' together, he also wrote something on the back of her album, saying 'Great to be with you again, MJ. I998 " (I always wondered what the notation 1998 meant😊🧐♥️💯)
@SuperBettyxoxo
6 ай бұрын
I didn't know that but after learning about how hurt he was and some things he said it dawned on me that this song might be about her. Every time I listen to it knowing that I get goosebumps. Better than a movie. The love I mean.
@bryanoquinnvevo
6 ай бұрын
@@SuperBettyxoxo I totally agree with you! The connection between Diana Ross and Michael Jackson is absolutely enchanting! If you Google Diana Ross's 1991 album cover for 'The Force Behind the Power' and then check out Michael Jackson during the 'Remember the Time' music video in 1992, you won't believe your eyes! It's like they were two puzzle pieces meant to be together, with their matching outfits and styles. Trust me, once you see those pictures, you'll be captivated by their kismet artistry and love story. It's truly something special and noteworthy! 🌟🔥✨
@SuperBettyxoxo
6 ай бұрын
@@bryanoquinnvevo I see it!! I mean this dude is doing the most in the best way! I love it!! 😂❤️
@lovelyabbyparcarey9604
5 ай бұрын
the song who is it by mj is also for diana
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@lovelyabbyparcarey9604 Michael... I've written MANY songs for Diana, and she knows I'll always love her...
@h-waytwan1257 Жыл бұрын
Best analysis I've seen yet I agree on it all. Cause I definitely suspected it for decades.
@clarakam385810 ай бұрын
No. Not true. M.j was in love with her. I don' t know from where you take that :" mommy & daddy isues and M.j wanted to be his mother" 😢. M.j had a loving mother, he wanted a wife ,not a mother.
@angelalaraia38467 ай бұрын
Just let him rest in peace Amem 🙏
@vh9network10 ай бұрын
No.......Diesha, 1:29 Michael didn't want to Diana Ross to be his mother, he has a mother who he deeply loved, Katherine. Michael fell in love with Diana Ross, he fell for her Madusa like ways as she already had a sizable count on men who fell for her prior. Michael who come of age by the late 1970s was reintroduced to Diana Ross again through the film The Wiz they played together, Michael fell in love with Diana Ross. Look up the 1982 Ebony Magazine interview of Michael Jackson, he point blanks tell the interviewer who he's in love with it when asked if he has a someone he likes, and it reveals its Diana Ross.
@DieshaShakela
10 ай бұрын
oh wowww!!! I will thanks for that tip!
@jessp8238
8 ай бұрын
He liked boys sis
@izzyrov5814
7 ай бұрын
@@jessp8238 OH STFU. If you're not sure what you're talking about, since you don't know MJs life, then just keep quiet.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
. No you do....
@user-PLAN4Loyalty16 күн бұрын
OK let’s say all of this is true. Nobody can call Donna Ross a cradle robber without calling Cher one as well❤
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
Cher is not afromerican. And she was very close to the untouchable David Geffen. Nothing could be said about Cher
@user-PLAN4Loyalty
12 күн бұрын
@@LeLouvre634 i’m not sure why you’re dragging David Geffen into this conversation Cher & David relationship was so long ago. apparently they both moved on and we all should as well. on the contrary, a lot can be said about Cher. Cher has made it public that she is dating Alexander Edwards as you put it “Afro-America” which is a 40 year age difference. My point is if this video is calling Diana Ross cradle robber by just speculating, she has dated a younger man which Diana Ross has never said anything public about this so it’s really just speculation not certainty I’m just saying Cher has made her relationship public with Alexander Edwards So whatever this video is trying to say about Diana Ross, I’m just saying you can basically saying same thing about Cher. In the case of dating younger men. Now let me end with this of course both ladies are a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the singing I personally enjoy both of them. So when I came across this video, I just wanted to state that nobody’s perfect. We love who we love and at some point we all end up in the same category some time. yet if we did not publicly say it, I don’t believe we should be publicly speaking about it. Speculation is one thing however, to hear it from someone’s mouth it’s always the best. Now, what we should be talking about is when will both of them going to release more music. I am sure they have lots more to sing. NowThat would be great and is worthy of talking about.
@LeLouvre634
11 күн бұрын
@@user-PLAN4Loyalty i agree. I just wonder why MJ was treated by the medias as he was ? Dont you think there had been a risk Diana Ross could be treated the same ? And why others celebrity are not chased as Michael was, although he is probably innocent? I didnt see the tabloids harass Bryan Singer the same, nobody appeals for the boycott of his movies . Not all celebrities are equally treated. What i wanted to say is that Cher was perhaps protected differently than Diana Ross in 80's..its an assumption
@adorationxofficial7 ай бұрын
Oh shit! They was in LOVE 😂. I kinda g it cause I dated a younger guy, not that much younger but younger then me.
@mjdr_4ever319
6 ай бұрын
I truly believe that they were and Diana loved him just as much. It's just that the unfortunate hand they were dealt made a public marriage/relationship impossible for them.
@taylawailaa5 ай бұрын
That’s crazyyyy! I feel slow for not knowing dirty Diana was about her lol
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
MJ said MOST of his songs are for her. He was hopelessly in love with her...
@trinajohnson18310 ай бұрын
Girrrl please....😆 you got a lot right in this video, but, MJ was not at all confused! He def had "daddy" issues but "mommy" issues he did NOT! MJ adored & respected his mother Katherine Jackson to the utmost; they had a very close bond stemming from his childhood! MJ was young of course, but he was no dummy; he always knew that he needed to wait until he at least turned 18/19 to shoot his shot at Diana Ross, despite her "motherly" role when he was a minor. AND, I truly believe she had given some kind of indications that the feelings were mutual, in order for him to pursue her as much as he did once he became old enough! Of course, she needed to continue playin it off to the public, fans, & industry, so as not to draw suspicions & allegations toward herself.....her status & career was very important to her! I believe she did get caught up in her emotions & the love that she also had for him. She showed that in her energy, affections, & her expressions toward him, on Live t.v. appearances. If anyone was confused for a moment, it surely wasn't MJ....he knew he wanted sexy Diana; he was totally mezmerized....& had truly fallen in love with the idea of them being in love with each other, and inseparable! As far as him proposing to her, not only once, but twice, alledgedly, well, his mother threw a monkey wrench in that s--- real quick! She knew her son was too inexperienced for a woman of Diana Ross's caliber, she knew how Diana Ross " had moved around" & "climbed" her way thru Motown.....she wasn't about to sit back & watch her son be unintentionally used, emotionally abused, & his young tender heart tooken for granted! She said Diana Ross was "too old" for her son! It was said that Mrs. Jackson went to the Press to expose Diana for this alledged accepting of an engagement ring! She knew MJ was not experienced enough in relationships....his nose was just wide open! Being married to an older woman on Diana's level would have def slowed down his career just as it was about to skyrocket! Do I think he hit??? Absolutely! Knowing how emotionally attached he was to her, I truly believe she wanted to be the first to put it down, in a real grown woman way! A young man doesn't stay THAT attached & THAT in love for THAT length of time, if he had not had that physical intimacy....idc what anyone says! He may have been shy, sensitive, & secretive, but I believe MJ was just as sexual as the next man! He knew she would never admit or tell their most deep secrets, and she knew he wouldn't.....although he gave us PLENTY of hints through a lot of his songs! He told us a lot, without telling us anything! 😉👌🏽 I believe Diana knew that as well! The man was in love, period! I don't believe he ever had that kind of emotions & love for any any other woman, although years later when he got with Lisa Marie Presley, he did care a lot about her & had a deep love for her!
@officialgoku5259 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is new to me .. I think u hit it on the head about the mommy/daddy issues.
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT!! He wanted to look like her....then when he realized she only dated WM he changed again. She really did a number on him
@officialgoku5259
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela that's why she was quick to address the reporter, when he was talking about the Michael's surgery
@fujisamasensei7314
Жыл бұрын
Because MJ did not have any mommy or daddy isuses to Diana Ross! Whats this shit girl?:))
@taylorsara1237
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela He NEVER wntd to look like her. He wntd to MARRY her. And NONE of MJ's surgeries mimicked Diana. He had the money to look more like HER than she looked like herself. He was hopelessly in love with her and just to be with her...
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela He did not want to look like her. He loved her. He wanted to marry her..
@soniahagemann38707 ай бұрын
Por favor tradução para português desde já agradeço obrigada.
@Adrian0deadends0 Жыл бұрын
So she’s a weird ass groomer. Don’t call this beautiful. We gotta do better at protecting black children. Cause if it were Barry instead of diana mfs would be up in arms… this would def be a direct correlation to him becoming a predator if true as well. These women groomers need to be stopped and the black community needs to stop deeming it as cute, when it’s a women but hollering protect the children when a man is doing it
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
I can see that. I actually agree that she did. I had mixed feelings on it, even tho she did groom him he loved her so much even as an adult? You are very correct she did groom him.
@jaywilliams1942
Жыл бұрын
Diana got this behavior from Berry. Berry Gordy is 14 years older than Diana (she’s 14 years older than MJ), and he met her when she was a teenager.
@vivstone4596
11 ай бұрын
How did she groom him? Throwing words out there like that could ruin someone.
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
No there was no grooming involved. Y’all need to learn what terms mean before just using them 😂
@Adrian0deadends0
2 ай бұрын
@@jaywilliams1942 it can definitely become a cycle of abuse
@geraldinejamison7262 Жыл бұрын
All his Songs is about Diana
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
More like 90% of his songs are about her....
@spleeng59
10 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkall of his love songs are about her for sure
@marazonpodolig3594 Жыл бұрын
Diana was mjs real love
@adala1007
11 ай бұрын
Correcting...She was one of his real love:)..The other was his first fiancee, Shazee
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@adala1007hmmm weird bc shazee was NOT in the will but Di was Shazee had no love notes to her on cds _ but Di had 7!! Shazee had no ded'ct or biz entities named for her_ but Di sure did! He said Di was his whole 🌎 on Nat tv but never mentioned the other chc!! And he bought di 🏡, 🚗🚢 💎 etc. What did he do for shazee?? Same as he did for lisa _ Nada!!
@kathypearson971711 ай бұрын
You learn something new everyday. I never knew that. But who wouldn’t fall for her. She’s gorgeous 😊
@user-PLAN4Loyalty16 күн бұрын
Please allow Michael Jackson to rest in peace. We got nothing else to talk about❤
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
Except that a lot of people still say he s gay and pedophile. His heterosexuality has to be known..
@tothemoon256223 сағат бұрын
Source???
@dianaikks96332 ай бұрын
Dirty Diana is one good thing that came out of it. I ❤❤❤ the song, although it could feel a little unconfortable at school with the teasers, at that time.😃
@donnyshoes2766 Жыл бұрын
//: MJ SOUNDS IF HE'S ALREADY HAD HER, I DON'T KNOW, ONLY KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE 💖
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
Many times. That was his boo...
@ShavonnShow6 ай бұрын
Kat was a horrible mother, Jesus christ. She allows her children to stay at another woman's home.
@finderkeeperrrs9 ай бұрын
He had a wonderful mother. Mrs. Katherine Jackson. And he had vitiligo and lupus. He didn't want to look like diana. This is just a bunch tabloids bs
@jessp8238
8 ай бұрын
She was not wonderful
@Truesong922 Жыл бұрын
Bro Michael was a teen she was a grown lady how did that happen
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
That's the question 🤔
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
She couldn't get away... And he wouldn't give up. He died in love with her
@Adrian0deadends0
Жыл бұрын
Exactly and she sitting here romanticizing the shit. Protect blk children
@Adrian0deadends0
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela but you’re literally romanticizing it. 🤔 you know how it happened. She’s a groomer and this shit isn’t cool. At all.
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@Adrian0deadends0 She didn't groom him. They didn't get together like that till MJ was 19. He was not groomed..he was in love with her all along
@trentonbates311410 ай бұрын
If you look back from off the wall till victory album diana was dating gene Simmons from kiss so michael never had a shot imo. He did say on a youtube video you can see that it took him years to get over her. It comes straight from the horses mouth, he was devastated
@dolly-gq9lr
10 ай бұрын
Haven't you heard of 2 timing?
@travonlewis8134
9 ай бұрын
Nah she dated him around 1979-81 around the same time Michael was starting to be seen with her constantly at award shows etc it’s no coincidence why gene Simmons hates Michael so much it’s because Diana moved on to mike during the thriller era
@nonplusultra6630
7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons / King Carl- Gustaf of Sweden - Diana / Queen Silvia of Sweden - Michael Jackson / Prince Carl - Philip of Sweden - All " Celebrities " / European Nobles
@0012103ang
4 ай бұрын
DR was cheating on MJ with Gene during this time and when MJ found out he got so angry at DR and rewrote the song "Behind The Mask" in the early 80s. Listen to the lyrics and the emotions MJ poured on that song.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
She was seeing BOTH of them and called out MJ's name during an intimate moment with Gene!! That's why Gene and MJ were enemies for life after that!! MJ abd Gene fought over her for almost 2yrs when Di finally got sick of Gene and his make up. So she dumped Gene. And MJ happily wrote. TGIM and sent the 1st copy to Gene!!
@GwendolynCollins-lm7zo5 ай бұрын
"OH YEAH"? NOTHING HAPPENED!!!
@user-dn5si3pw8h3 ай бұрын
Nothing about this is beautiful To think this was innocent Is toxic
@tida37273 ай бұрын
I wish they were a couple..❤❤
@marlapineda904910 ай бұрын
I never heard of Diana Ross grooming Michael Jackson, but how they interacted and the way they talked about each other sounds kind of creepy. The idea of a grown woman inviting a young boy to live with her is as creepy as a grown man asking a young girl on a date. Didn’t anyone complain about Elvis Presley falling in love with a 14 year old Priscilla and he was 24 or Celine Dion marrying her manager whom she met when she was 12? 🤔 It sounds gross 🤢 It doesn’t matter if she was beautiful, what matters is how she acted with Michael is inappropriate. I bet people would have cancelled her today.
@jazmorrison9030
5 ай бұрын
She welcome Michael on stage in j5 she did not groom Michael gosh even if anything did happen would of happened in adult hood nothing wrong with with that . Michael did not ask Diana Ross to marry him so you talking in this video your full of bs woman
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@jazmorrison9030 What??? Michael BEGGED Diana to Marry him for 2 decades!!! They were eng'd in 85 when she ran off with Arne!- ( bc Ms J refused to give her blessing and said Di was soiling him) Diana actually wed Arne in the same ⛪ MJ had been trying to marry her in for yrs!! MJ was si in love with Di his mom said it wasn't healthy....
@nonplusultra66307 ай бұрын
Actors!
@guadalupeespinosadeleon825719 күн бұрын
Diana también lo amaba, se puede ver en la forma como se comportaba con él.
@abetterlifestyle9 ай бұрын
Missing you. Feat smokey robinson teels it
@DieshaShakela
9 ай бұрын
About to go listen to it! Thanks
@LovelyTee232311 ай бұрын
Dirty Diana!!!!
@jamesway3 ай бұрын
This is a bad take, all I have ever seen is Diana is never above his real mother.
@jazmorrison90305 ай бұрын
Michael did not look like Diana Ross. So stop it Michael loved his mother Kathrine jackson
@valeriefedion68245 күн бұрын
But did she pull a Jada Pinkett Smith. Did she seduce somebody who wasn't ready for an adult relationship, she new him since he was 11. That's a big power gap
@cindyhefferman26052 ай бұрын
She did not discover them… lie … and NOTHING between them
@Michael_Jackson_fan_21 күн бұрын
Is this real???
@HoodDonniedarko7 ай бұрын
Why didn’t she love him 😢?
@yfnkey9162 ай бұрын
Dirty Diana is definitely about Ms Ross Esp the..."she love all the boys in the band" part The original lyrics exposing her,from her groomin him to the 1977-84 part of them being engaged twice Go look at 1980 AMA of her an MJ on red carpet,U can tell shes testing the waters to see how the public would react to them on a date/being a couple. Exp when they get to regis philben on red carpet MJ goes or thinks shes goin to kiss him on the lips,but he get the cheek,u can tell MJ was so embarrassed,esp when u no that u an her are lovers an she shun u in the public Woman dont realize the damage they do to men as well... WOMAN Damage men as well,it goes both ways Ive been in depression over woman an not feel good enough... WOMAN DAMAGE MEN AS WELL ..ITS NOT ONE SIDED Diana psychologically damaged MJ did she on purpose? No way...but she didnt think of the damage it all could cause...woman never do Difference is with men ..men dont care about the psychological damage they do to women Women psychological damage usually isnt done on purpose but still has the same affect. I heard that Remember the time was about Dianna as well
@lucylcaruso4207Ай бұрын
Diana beautiful!!
@leaongat75496 ай бұрын
Dam this is just slander lol
@hagarwaleed6181 Жыл бұрын
Did Michael wrote dirty diana cuz of Diana Ross, so he means she's dirty
@taylorsara253
Жыл бұрын
Not that kind of dirty... She broke his ❤️ and he was angry. DD was a FU song to her...
@holyempressw8531
Жыл бұрын
No. She broke his heart. She married another man and he was jealous. He made the song sound like it was for groupies......but it was for her. She flirted with many men and got him jealous .
@sandraphillips1718
Жыл бұрын
She was just playing games with Michael. She broke his heart. She married only white men with money.
@sandraphillips1718
Жыл бұрын
She accepted money, jewelry, and anything she could get from Michael. So sad. She was just leading him on.
@hagarwaleed6181
Жыл бұрын
@@sandraphillips1718 so I'm right right, do ya girl agree with me
@danaparsons19909 ай бұрын
I have no respect for Diana Ross after this sad and sick story
@user-zi1zp9ee4w4 сағат бұрын
اگه عاشق دایانا بود چرا با او ازدواج نکرد.مایکل دایانارو دوست داشت .به عنوان دوست صمیمی .
@theoneandonlykyle9800 Жыл бұрын
Naw I don't think he smashed or so I think 🤔
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
11 ай бұрын
Definitely did....
@Keeping_upwiththeblues7 ай бұрын
So she groomed him 😮
@melolabean7656
7 ай бұрын
Yes
@nickhershey33583 ай бұрын
Michael Jackson had a fearful avoidant attachment.
@hadinapokalix7329 Жыл бұрын
broooo you can tell just by the way he looked at her he was in love with her,,,,,i bet he wanted to mary her,,,,i bet he asked,,,and i bet she was to afraid to do it because of what people would say,,,and i bet that broke michael the rest of his life that he couldnt have the only girl he ever loved
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right I watched his eyes and he was smitten with her
@hadinapokalix7329
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela never seen him look at anyone like that ever,,,I just discovered this story,and now everything makes sense why he was sad his entire life
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@hadinapokalix7329 Yeah. She should of sat him down n told him from the start she would never marry him... Mike always believed she would n he wasted about 20 yrs fighting to make it happen..
@CloutMoney
9 ай бұрын
Diana Ross was a bed wench there I Said it😂💯
@anshaleejantasom7973 Жыл бұрын
still a mystery
@starr449011 ай бұрын
I've been always thrilled about their story. Doesn't matter where Mike is be it at an awards show or at concerts, he always stayed the same giving Diana double kisses on her cheek and hugged her tight in a long time never letting go abruptly like the others who would greet her onstage. He didn't care about the public. As to his hit single Dirty Diana, MJ said in his interview with Barbara Walters back in '97, it's not about her. It's not Diana Ross it's about groupies and his experiences with his brothers and these girls backstage for many years.. People immediately jumped to targeting Diana during the Bad era because of the timing, the title, and the hardcore heartfelt lyrics to the song which they mistakenly thought right away that MJ was writing about her. But it's not no not Diana Ross.. Michael could never do that to her in such a bad light through a song in an album that has bad theme all over the place. He'd write more about his heartbreak of losing someone he loved than being so mad about that person for hurting him.. He'd write more about the tabloids, the press, the injustice, the unfairness of the media in his songs more than any other artist I ever know than writing about Diana.. He loved her with all his life. She's the first love of his life. When he lost her it took him so many years just to be over her and yet he was still depressed. He may say that he was over her but to me I don't think so. He's still badly hurt and completely in love her but couldn't have her. Yet she remained his 2nd mom, a mentor, a friend, a lover. I see mom/son issues with them though but I understand. He started off in the business really young. The only female apart from his mom who he can look up to and guide him in the industry is Diana. I'm sure something else went on behind the doors. It's just they both shared genuine affection throughout the years.
@DieshaShakela
11 ай бұрын
Exactly! Its was beautiful
@starr4490
11 ай бұрын
@@DieshaShakela 🤗I really want to thank you, Diesha for that infovideo you made I forgot to put it in my comment. Sorry that was very long.😅 I felt I had to speak for both of them to the others coz I love Diana Ross and Michael Jackson so much. I don't want other people to put them in a bad light so easily. They're wonderful artists. I also want to add that Dirty Diana was Princess Diana's favorite MJ song. 😊
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
11 ай бұрын
Wrong. D Ms Ross was like a 2nd mom when he was a KID. She took care of him for a few months and they were always very close. But he had a serious crush that got so bad his mom took him from Diana hoping to end his infactuation but it got stronger. He fell headlong in love with her and pursued her Relentlessly. Ms Di did NOT want ppl to know this. That's why she used the "he's like my son cover story_ I researched this for about 2 yrs n Ms Ross was sleeping with Mike from about the age of 18!! His 22 yr cameraman told it all in his book and talked about walking in on them at the peach tree 🏨. They were also caught in set of Wiz and some B)B Mike bought Diana in 80s There's a reason Mike said dozens of times that he loved Diana and wanted to MARRY her!! There's a reason why he called her His world and said he'd love her forever... Notice he DID... And DD WAS 4 her. But no way was he going to tell that to the public. He was angry when he write that. They were engaged when Ms Ross ran off with the white guy. He had a lot of reason to be enraged. DD was a get even with a slut song ( Not calling Ms R a slut) but that's just how he was feeling then.. But Mike admitted MANY of his songs were ( as he put it). To and for DIANA and DD was definitely one of them that's why she was mad and later laughed & said at her concert that her baby write DD for her and she sang it!!!
@dolly-gq9lr
10 ай бұрын
How do you know michael propose to her? And how do you know he gave her an engagement ring?
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
10 ай бұрын
@@dolly-gq9lr If you saw 85 Grammys they were on stage kissing deep and she was wearing his ring...
@AGirlWithoutAName9 ай бұрын
Wasn't she the woman who were rumored to have sexually abused Michael when he was 12 yo to then kept him under his control to take his virginity at 17 yo and threw him like a piece of shit? Even if all of this isn't true or exact, I hate her so much. Michael deserved better!
@DieshaShakela
9 ай бұрын
He did deserve better...yeah she did something.
@AGirlWithoutAName
9 ай бұрын
@@DieshaShakela poor Michael 😞
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
There is no evidence to suggest MJ was sexually abused by anyone.
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
There is no evidence to support this.
@cindyhefferman26052 ай бұрын
Don’t spread lies
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
No lies here about their love affair
@nellycol7559 Жыл бұрын
Is so creepy to say in the same sentence "Mother and lover" mybe she abused him !!
@abetterlifestyle11 ай бұрын
thats is real mother shes biilie jean and hes the kid
@watersunjones7758 Жыл бұрын
Michael wanted to be a DeBarge. If we're talking about what drove his "transformation". That Diana thing, I believe, was misdirection. Period. Good post though. Diana Ross is on my top most beautiful famous women of all time. Along with Kenya Moore and others.
@ErinDeNis
Жыл бұрын
No. What drove his transformation were natural causes. Michael definitely had vitiligo: it was on his autopsy report and if you look up pictures between the late 70’s and 80’s, you’ll see clear images of skin discoloration all over his body. His hair was a result of the Pepsi burns. After that, he had to wear wigs. Look up pics of those burns, they were awful. Michael didn’t want to be anyone but Michael. He had outsold and out performed the DeBarge family before he even reached puberty.
@watersunjones7758
Жыл бұрын
@@ErinDeNis Copy that. My statement was driven by understanding who he was around growing up. Thought it was interesting he grew up around that family and ended up "looking" like one of them later in life. Maybe how the males looked had some impact on him at some point?? Either way, good convo. Definitely not married to any one theory.😉
@brizzy4932 Жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson, the secret love child of Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson 😲
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
Bull.
@brizzy4932
Жыл бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zk No?... Don't believe Me? How else do You explain the Jackson discovery story?
@0ne0nlyLarry
Жыл бұрын
@brizzy4932 I think it's explained very well that his father met with Suzanne and she introduced them to Berry Gordy. Where tf did you get this idea of Diana and Smokey having Michael as a child?
@brizzy4932
Жыл бұрын
@@0ne0nlyLarry Not so, the only reason the Jackson 5 was created was so that Barry Gordy can bring Michael Jackson back to Diana Ross. The child she had abandoned for fame and fortune.
@marmackk
10 ай бұрын
@@brizzy4932 He looks like his mother Katherine Jackson.All the Jackson sibling have similare looks. Same high cheek bones Are you telling me that Diana gave birth to Janet who he looks the most like,Jermaine,Latoya,Marlon .Rebie,Titoetc.Stop the nonense.
@adala100711 ай бұрын
I knew MJ 's love stories many of them:)) ..I mean he really loved talkin about his affairs as a private person:) Its not just the Glenda tapes it really happened all time.Everyone says that Diana was His true love but its not true. MJ had a fiancee from who Dangerous album is about mostly he really loved her and stay connected till his death. Thats why he wanted to settle in Dubai (his fiancee was from Saud Arabia from a royal family but lived in Dubai later)..MJ was really wild and such a womanizer as his father was..like all of his brother was. But y cause of his traumatic childhood he had a repetitive negative relationship patterns and a really deep emotional hunger. That means He could really love someone but could not connect. That happened with his fiancee and with all his relationship. Diana may be was the same:)). Actaully MJ never put a ring on Diana's finger and Diana never wanted to marry MJ
@ggpierson5527
11 ай бұрын
This is the "S" story that was all over the place online years ago and it got debunked. Just stop.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
That's a lie. There's a pic of Di kissing him in the mouth wearing the ring on King Michael blog!! And he said over n over n over Diana Ross was the LOHL. So ypu know who HE LOVE better than him??? And He cared for Liss but was NOT deep in love with her ever. When he was asked 3x in 3 diff intervs if he loved Lisa he kept saying he LIKED her n wished her well ...
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I agree. People seem to forget that Diana once called Berry Gordy her father, lover, friend and obviously they had a romantic relationship. Why can't that also be true for Michael and Diana since he also referred to her as his mother, lover, friend
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
She has a children with Berry Gordy
He didn't want Diana to be his mother he wanted her to be his wife
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
I felt that too
@jiml8637
Жыл бұрын
She IS his mother
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@jiml8637 No she is not. Katherine is his mother. Ms Di was the love of his life.
@Thatonequitekid2
Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda weird don’t you think? When they met Michael was 10 and she was already a fully grown ass woman 😂
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@Thatonequitekid2d No bcuz ain't nothin happen till he was grown.. just like Elvis and Celine Dion...
I think he was in love with her until his last breath, you don't leave the custody of your children to anyone, and michael left it to her after his mother
@dolly-gq9lr
9 ай бұрын
She was the Lady in his life. However, to many it would have been as a taboo relationship.
Fascinating. I just saw Diana Ross perform live at the Breast Cancer Research Foundation Hot Pink Gala two weeks ago and the second she started singing I said to myself “OMG I know now why Michael loved her so much”. She’s literally magic, at 79 she’s effortlessly flawless. Very interesting to hear the history. Thanks 👌🏽
Michael Jackson was a beautiful looking man, after his first nose job omg he was just stunning pity he kept changing himself .
@finderkeeperrrs
9 ай бұрын
Quit the bs. It didn't help that he had vitiligo and lupus, and even Pepsi commercial burn. He was always handsome
@forevermichaelsp.y.t7378
6 ай бұрын
Ok... he was beautiful always inside and out. He hated the way he looked because his father bullied him about it. He also had a history of skin conditions, vitiligo, which destroys the pigmentation in the skin, and lupus. He also received 2nd and 3rd degree sculp burns after an accident in 1984 while shooting a pepsi commercial. This kick-started his addiction to painkillers because he was in pain in the years following the accident. I believe he had to have some surgery done because of it, but also he had to wear a wig because some of that hair didn't grow back. He had his first nose job around 1978/79 because he broke his nose. But yes... he was gorgeous in his younger years
@darkandlovely
5 ай бұрын
He was always beautiful. Before and after his first nose job. He just had issues with how he looked because his family teasing and bullying him.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@darkandlovely He was always beautiful to me. Sad the evil media was actually doctoring his pics to make him look crazy!!
All I know is... Remember the Time is dedicated to Diana Ross, and that's Facts. Soooo.....
In Taborelli's book it was reported by Frank Dileo that MJ didnt want to look like his father, that was the reason for his surgeries..
Jermaine Jackson said that Michael’s told him his song Remember The Time was written about Fiana.
They definitely smashed idc wat nobody say!!!!! Michael was smashing during the “ Wiz”, Off the wall early Thriller Era” Definitely!!!!
@DieshaShakela
10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jordanmitchell9742
7 ай бұрын
Listen I wouldn’t even disagree with you… Michael is the shy type but the shy ones are always different behind closed doors. 👀
@PavethaWay
Ай бұрын
Your next....
I disagree. He wasn't ever trying to look like her. His mom said he'd been in love with her since he was a teen And it just got stronger. They never rly parted they just went on the DZl and kept it in the closet bc that's what Diana wanted. MJ ALWAYS loved her and fought for decades to be with her. He Should have given up, but he never rly did. He admitted Most of his songs were f/ her and he threw many good women away bc Di came back acting like she'd finally be his... Yet he STILL put her in his will and left this msg on his last liv'g album to her Ultimate Nov 2004 To Diana Ross, I loved u in the early yrs I LOVE U EVEN MORE NOW! I Love u Diana!!
@jiml8637
Жыл бұрын
Shes his mom
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@jiml8637 Take your meds...
@KaykayWilliAm
9 ай бұрын
Did Diana Ross date Barry gibbs? I sure hope not.
@KaykayWilliAm
9 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkwhen did mj and Diana first officially date? Was this while Diana was married to silberstien
@rehanapathan7572
7 ай бұрын
In which album I can found this message?
I believe everything you said was true because back in the day there was speculation going around that Michael Jackson lost his virginity to Diana Ross and that Michael was so in love and head over hills for Diana Ross that he wanted to start a family with Diana Ross but when Diana got married to another guy as you mentioned in your video Michael was highly upset and jealous that Diana Ross didn't marry him despite the huge age gap between them! And it was also said that Michael and Diana fell out with each other for years over their toxic relationship Michael felt it wasn't fair to him that diana married another man and not him it was crazy!!!!! 😮
I agree with everything you said but I believe it lasted longer that’s why he had a hard time being with someone else…✌🏽
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
It lasted forever. Just as he said it would .He was in love with her when he took his last breath
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkAgreed...
Awww Michael loved diana
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
He really did! It was beautiful 😍
@vlogginmylife
10 ай бұрын
I had no idea but I was a kid
You are correct i thought the same you can tell when they would perform together the chemistry was a million
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right!! Did you see the clip in the video where she is calling him sexy and he says she is too! Yeah they tried to keep it playful.
... this intriguing theory about Diana Ross and Michael Jackson. It's quite remarkable how love and connections can transcend age and circumstances, right? And despite the gossip, it's clear that Michael had a deep affection for Diana. Leaving your children in your will is a testament to the love you hold for them. It's heartwarming to think about the bond they may have shared. Let's focus on the positive and celebrate the incredible legacies!❤
He was totally in love with Diana Ross. He was inspired to say the least.
Dang, just now learming about this. I always wondered why he named his album dirty diana
I agree. I believe something happened between the two and it was beautiful. In addition to the late 70s and 80s, I also think they may have been on and off at some points in the 90s to early 2000s. I don't think he was getting surgery to look like her though. I say that because OTW era was when there was the most resemblance between the two, and that was before he started getting a bunch of stuff done. At that point, he had only gotten maybe one nose job. So, I think the resemblance was naturally there. They both have those big, bright eyes, similar skin tone, and slight similarity in bone structure. It's a shame, they probably would have made some beautiful babies.
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right! I love the way you summed this up!! Could've been amazing 💙💜
@lelecheesy
Жыл бұрын
She’s known him since a young kid. That’s not beautiful
@earthangel90210
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesyright that definition grooming but I guess
@SimplyBeingTT
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesy Then why watch something so disgusting?
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@lelecheesy Celine knew her husband since she was 12..pricilla knew Elvis since she was 14 guess that wasn't grooming huh. It's only wrong when it's black folks right?
Mjs love of his life was Diana they were 2x engaged.he never STOP chasing for Diana up to the last breath He even put Diana on his last will to be second guardian to his children in case somethng happen to Katherine...thats a fact
@DieshaShakela
4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! The love was beautiful
This break down was deep!!! Thank you! That was in love!!!! wow!!!
This is very deep. Plus, the question is: "How did Diana Ross know about Michael's sexuality?" 🤔 But of course, the industry is a twisted place to be involved in. Thank you for sharing your deep dive with us. 😎👍🏼
@purplebanana6420
5 ай бұрын
You dont have to sleep wit someone to know their sexuality he probably got aroused
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
How do u think she knew? She was "doing him"
@shakiya2
4 ай бұрын
@@taylorsara1237 I agree with you. The industry tried to twist it and say that Michael made up the name (Diana) for the song... but it had to be because of his first "love": Diana Ross. 😔 Continue resting well, Michael.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@shakiya2 No he didnt. They HATE for us aboriginals to lovr US!! That's why they constantly tried to pair him with WW! U can find the real definition for DD on blog king Michael and the live of his life... Zit was definitely about Diana. She was his whole world....
It's really wild how everybody on here is saying that this was a beautiful thing. Like WTF😖!!! it's sick!!!
I, like you appear to as well, believe something did go on between these 2. Who's mother or mother-like figure you've ever known to address their child as "sexy"? Where they dothat at? 🤔 Also, I agree that Diana was concerned with how this relationship would look in regards to her image. She met him when he was child; so there would've been a publicity nightmare for her to openly express any type of sexual relationship with him. Although I believe they didn't do anything sexual until Michael was between 18-20 years of age, the mere facts of her being 14 years older & knowing him as a child would of conjured up criticism of inappropriateness/grooming. For the record, I respectfully disagree with many who believe the song "Dirty Diana" was about Diana Ross. I do believe other songs of his was about her though like "Blue Gangsta", "Can't Let Her Get Away", "Who Is It" & several others.
Michael loved Diana so dearly period.
I agree it all makes sense now
❤🎵" Evidently, nobody but me would remember this, but when 'Remember the Time' came out, the first edition was on a cassette single or one of the early releases, if you will. On the back of it, Michael Jackson had the inscription 'Remember the Time' dedicated to his beloved Diana Ross. And hey, in 1985, when they did 'Eaten Alive' together, he also wrote something on the back of her album, saying 'Great to be with you again, MJ. I998 " (I always wondered what the notation 1998 meant😊🧐♥️💯)
@SuperBettyxoxo
6 ай бұрын
I didn't know that but after learning about how hurt he was and some things he said it dawned on me that this song might be about her. Every time I listen to it knowing that I get goosebumps. Better than a movie. The love I mean.
@bryanoquinnvevo
6 ай бұрын
@@SuperBettyxoxo I totally agree with you! The connection between Diana Ross and Michael Jackson is absolutely enchanting! If you Google Diana Ross's 1991 album cover for 'The Force Behind the Power' and then check out Michael Jackson during the 'Remember the Time' music video in 1992, you won't believe your eyes! It's like they were two puzzle pieces meant to be together, with their matching outfits and styles. Trust me, once you see those pictures, you'll be captivated by their kismet artistry and love story. It's truly something special and noteworthy! 🌟🔥✨
@SuperBettyxoxo
6 ай бұрын
@@bryanoquinnvevo I see it!! I mean this dude is doing the most in the best way! I love it!! 😂❤️
@lovelyabbyparcarey9604
5 ай бұрын
the song who is it by mj is also for diana
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@lovelyabbyparcarey9604 Michael... I've written MANY songs for Diana, and she knows I'll always love her...
Best analysis I've seen yet I agree on it all. Cause I definitely suspected it for decades.
No. Not true. M.j was in love with her. I don' t know from where you take that :" mommy & daddy isues and M.j wanted to be his mother" 😢. M.j had a loving mother, he wanted a wife ,not a mother.
Just let him rest in peace Amem 🙏
No.......Diesha, 1:29 Michael didn't want to Diana Ross to be his mother, he has a mother who he deeply loved, Katherine. Michael fell in love with Diana Ross, he fell for her Madusa like ways as she already had a sizable count on men who fell for her prior. Michael who come of age by the late 1970s was reintroduced to Diana Ross again through the film The Wiz they played together, Michael fell in love with Diana Ross. Look up the 1982 Ebony Magazine interview of Michael Jackson, he point blanks tell the interviewer who he's in love with it when asked if he has a someone he likes, and it reveals its Diana Ross.
@DieshaShakela
10 ай бұрын
oh wowww!!! I will thanks for that tip!
@jessp8238
8 ай бұрын
He liked boys sis
@izzyrov5814
7 ай бұрын
@@jessp8238 OH STFU. If you're not sure what you're talking about, since you don't know MJs life, then just keep quiet.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
. No you do....
OK let’s say all of this is true. Nobody can call Donna Ross a cradle robber without calling Cher one as well❤
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
Cher is not afromerican. And she was very close to the untouchable David Geffen. Nothing could be said about Cher
@user-PLAN4Loyalty
12 күн бұрын
@@LeLouvre634 i’m not sure why you’re dragging David Geffen into this conversation Cher & David relationship was so long ago. apparently they both moved on and we all should as well. on the contrary, a lot can be said about Cher. Cher has made it public that she is dating Alexander Edwards as you put it “Afro-America” which is a 40 year age difference. My point is if this video is calling Diana Ross cradle robber by just speculating, she has dated a younger man which Diana Ross has never said anything public about this so it’s really just speculation not certainty I’m just saying Cher has made her relationship public with Alexander Edwards So whatever this video is trying to say about Diana Ross, I’m just saying you can basically saying same thing about Cher. In the case of dating younger men. Now let me end with this of course both ladies are a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the singing I personally enjoy both of them. So when I came across this video, I just wanted to state that nobody’s perfect. We love who we love and at some point we all end up in the same category some time. yet if we did not publicly say it, I don’t believe we should be publicly speaking about it. Speculation is one thing however, to hear it from someone’s mouth it’s always the best. Now, what we should be talking about is when will both of them going to release more music. I am sure they have lots more to sing. NowThat would be great and is worthy of talking about.
@LeLouvre634
11 күн бұрын
@@user-PLAN4Loyalty i agree. I just wonder why MJ was treated by the medias as he was ? Dont you think there had been a risk Diana Ross could be treated the same ? And why others celebrity are not chased as Michael was, although he is probably innocent? I didnt see the tabloids harass Bryan Singer the same, nobody appeals for the boycott of his movies . Not all celebrities are equally treated. What i wanted to say is that Cher was perhaps protected differently than Diana Ross in 80's..its an assumption
Oh shit! They was in LOVE 😂. I kinda g it cause I dated a younger guy, not that much younger but younger then me.
@mjdr_4ever319
6 ай бұрын
I truly believe that they were and Diana loved him just as much. It's just that the unfortunate hand they were dealt made a public marriage/relationship impossible for them.
That’s crazyyyy! I feel slow for not knowing dirty Diana was about her lol
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
MJ said MOST of his songs are for her. He was hopelessly in love with her...
Girrrl please....😆 you got a lot right in this video, but, MJ was not at all confused! He def had "daddy" issues but "mommy" issues he did NOT! MJ adored & respected his mother Katherine Jackson to the utmost; they had a very close bond stemming from his childhood! MJ was young of course, but he was no dummy; he always knew that he needed to wait until he at least turned 18/19 to shoot his shot at Diana Ross, despite her "motherly" role when he was a minor. AND, I truly believe she had given some kind of indications that the feelings were mutual, in order for him to pursue her as much as he did once he became old enough! Of course, she needed to continue playin it off to the public, fans, & industry, so as not to draw suspicions & allegations toward herself.....her status & career was very important to her! I believe she did get caught up in her emotions & the love that she also had for him. She showed that in her energy, affections, & her expressions toward him, on Live t.v. appearances. If anyone was confused for a moment, it surely wasn't MJ....he knew he wanted sexy Diana; he was totally mezmerized....& had truly fallen in love with the idea of them being in love with each other, and inseparable! As far as him proposing to her, not only once, but twice, alledgedly, well, his mother threw a monkey wrench in that s--- real quick! She knew her son was too inexperienced for a woman of Diana Ross's caliber, she knew how Diana Ross " had moved around" & "climbed" her way thru Motown.....she wasn't about to sit back & watch her son be unintentionally used, emotionally abused, & his young tender heart tooken for granted! She said Diana Ross was "too old" for her son! It was said that Mrs. Jackson went to the Press to expose Diana for this alledged accepting of an engagement ring! She knew MJ was not experienced enough in relationships....his nose was just wide open! Being married to an older woman on Diana's level would have def slowed down his career just as it was about to skyrocket! Do I think he hit??? Absolutely! Knowing how emotionally attached he was to her, I truly believe she wanted to be the first to put it down, in a real grown woman way! A young man doesn't stay THAT attached & THAT in love for THAT length of time, if he had not had that physical intimacy....idc what anyone says! He may have been shy, sensitive, & secretive, but I believe MJ was just as sexual as the next man! He knew she would never admit or tell their most deep secrets, and she knew he wouldn't.....although he gave us PLENTY of hints through a lot of his songs! He told us a lot, without telling us anything! 😉👌🏽 I believe Diana knew that as well! The man was in love, period! I don't believe he ever had that kind of emotions & love for any any other woman, although years later when he got with Lisa Marie Presley, he did care a lot about her & had a deep love for her!
Wow this is new to me .. I think u hit it on the head about the mommy/daddy issues.
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT!! He wanted to look like her....then when he realized she only dated WM he changed again. She really did a number on him
@officialgoku5259
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela that's why she was quick to address the reporter, when he was talking about the Michael's surgery
@fujisamasensei7314
Жыл бұрын
Because MJ did not have any mommy or daddy isuses to Diana Ross! Whats this shit girl?:))
@taylorsara1237
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela He NEVER wntd to look like her. He wntd to MARRY her. And NONE of MJ's surgeries mimicked Diana. He had the money to look more like HER than she looked like herself. He was hopelessly in love with her and just to be with her...
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela He did not want to look like her. He loved her. He wanted to marry her..
Por favor tradução para português desde já agradeço obrigada.
So she’s a weird ass groomer. Don’t call this beautiful. We gotta do better at protecting black children. Cause if it were Barry instead of diana mfs would be up in arms… this would def be a direct correlation to him becoming a predator if true as well. These women groomers need to be stopped and the black community needs to stop deeming it as cute, when it’s a women but hollering protect the children when a man is doing it
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
I can see that. I actually agree that she did. I had mixed feelings on it, even tho she did groom him he loved her so much even as an adult? You are very correct she did groom him.
@jaywilliams1942
Жыл бұрын
Diana got this behavior from Berry. Berry Gordy is 14 years older than Diana (she’s 14 years older than MJ), and he met her when she was a teenager.
@vivstone4596
11 ай бұрын
How did she groom him? Throwing words out there like that could ruin someone.
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
No there was no grooming involved. Y’all need to learn what terms mean before just using them 😂
@Adrian0deadends0
2 ай бұрын
@@jaywilliams1942 it can definitely become a cycle of abuse
All his Songs is about Diana
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
More like 90% of his songs are about her....
@spleeng59
10 ай бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zkall of his love songs are about her for sure
Diana was mjs real love
@adala1007
11 ай бұрын
Correcting...She was one of his real love:)..The other was his first fiancee, Shazee
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@adala1007hmmm weird bc shazee was NOT in the will but Di was Shazee had no love notes to her on cds _ but Di had 7!! Shazee had no ded'ct or biz entities named for her_ but Di sure did! He said Di was his whole 🌎 on Nat tv but never mentioned the other chc!! And he bought di 🏡, 🚗🚢 💎 etc. What did he do for shazee?? Same as he did for lisa _ Nada!!
You learn something new everyday. I never knew that. But who wouldn’t fall for her. She’s gorgeous 😊
Please allow Michael Jackson to rest in peace. We got nothing else to talk about❤
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
Except that a lot of people still say he s gay and pedophile. His heterosexuality has to be known..
Source???
Dirty Diana is one good thing that came out of it. I ❤❤❤ the song, although it could feel a little unconfortable at school with the teasers, at that time.😃
//: MJ SOUNDS IF HE'S ALREADY HAD HER, I DON'T KNOW, ONLY KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE 💖
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
Many times. That was his boo...
Kat was a horrible mother, Jesus christ. She allows her children to stay at another woman's home.
He had a wonderful mother. Mrs. Katherine Jackson. And he had vitiligo and lupus. He didn't want to look like diana. This is just a bunch tabloids bs
@jessp8238
8 ай бұрын
She was not wonderful
Bro Michael was a teen she was a grown lady how did that happen
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
That's the question 🤔
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
She couldn't get away... And he wouldn't give up. He died in love with her
@Adrian0deadends0
Жыл бұрын
Exactly and she sitting here romanticizing the shit. Protect blk children
@Adrian0deadends0
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela but you’re literally romanticizing it. 🤔 you know how it happened. She’s a groomer and this shit isn’t cool. At all.
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@Adrian0deadends0 She didn't groom him. They didn't get together like that till MJ was 19. He was not groomed..he was in love with her all along
If you look back from off the wall till victory album diana was dating gene Simmons from kiss so michael never had a shot imo. He did say on a youtube video you can see that it took him years to get over her. It comes straight from the horses mouth, he was devastated
@dolly-gq9lr
10 ай бұрын
Haven't you heard of 2 timing?
@travonlewis8134
9 ай бұрын
Nah she dated him around 1979-81 around the same time Michael was starting to be seen with her constantly at award shows etc it’s no coincidence why gene Simmons hates Michael so much it’s because Diana moved on to mike during the thriller era
@nonplusultra6630
7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons / King Carl- Gustaf of Sweden - Diana / Queen Silvia of Sweden - Michael Jackson / Prince Carl - Philip of Sweden - All " Celebrities " / European Nobles
@0012103ang
4 ай бұрын
DR was cheating on MJ with Gene during this time and when MJ found out he got so angry at DR and rewrote the song "Behind The Mask" in the early 80s. Listen to the lyrics and the emotions MJ poured on that song.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
She was seeing BOTH of them and called out MJ's name during an intimate moment with Gene!! That's why Gene and MJ were enemies for life after that!! MJ abd Gene fought over her for almost 2yrs when Di finally got sick of Gene and his make up. So she dumped Gene. And MJ happily wrote. TGIM and sent the 1st copy to Gene!!
"OH YEAH"? NOTHING HAPPENED!!!
Nothing about this is beautiful To think this was innocent Is toxic
I wish they were a couple..❤❤
I never heard of Diana Ross grooming Michael Jackson, but how they interacted and the way they talked about each other sounds kind of creepy. The idea of a grown woman inviting a young boy to live with her is as creepy as a grown man asking a young girl on a date. Didn’t anyone complain about Elvis Presley falling in love with a 14 year old Priscilla and he was 24 or Celine Dion marrying her manager whom she met when she was 12? 🤔 It sounds gross 🤢 It doesn’t matter if she was beautiful, what matters is how she acted with Michael is inappropriate. I bet people would have cancelled her today.
@jazmorrison9030
5 ай бұрын
She welcome Michael on stage in j5 she did not groom Michael gosh even if anything did happen would of happened in adult hood nothing wrong with with that . Michael did not ask Diana Ross to marry him so you talking in this video your full of bs woman
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
@@jazmorrison9030 What??? Michael BEGGED Diana to Marry him for 2 decades!!! They were eng'd in 85 when she ran off with Arne!- ( bc Ms J refused to give her blessing and said Di was soiling him) Diana actually wed Arne in the same ⛪ MJ had been trying to marry her in for yrs!! MJ was si in love with Di his mom said it wasn't healthy....
Actors!
Diana también lo amaba, se puede ver en la forma como se comportaba con él.
Missing you. Feat smokey robinson teels it
@DieshaShakela
9 ай бұрын
About to go listen to it! Thanks
Dirty Diana!!!!
This is a bad take, all I have ever seen is Diana is never above his real mother.
Michael did not look like Diana Ross. So stop it Michael loved his mother Kathrine jackson
But did she pull a Jada Pinkett Smith. Did she seduce somebody who wasn't ready for an adult relationship, she new him since he was 11. That's a big power gap
She did not discover them… lie … and NOTHING between them
Is this real???
Why didn’t she love him 😢?
Dirty Diana is definitely about Ms Ross Esp the..."she love all the boys in the band" part The original lyrics exposing her,from her groomin him to the 1977-84 part of them being engaged twice Go look at 1980 AMA of her an MJ on red carpet,U can tell shes testing the waters to see how the public would react to them on a date/being a couple. Exp when they get to regis philben on red carpet MJ goes or thinks shes goin to kiss him on the lips,but he get the cheek,u can tell MJ was so embarrassed,esp when u no that u an her are lovers an she shun u in the public Woman dont realize the damage they do to men as well... WOMAN Damage men as well,it goes both ways Ive been in depression over woman an not feel good enough... WOMAN DAMAGE MEN AS WELL ..ITS NOT ONE SIDED Diana psychologically damaged MJ did she on purpose? No way...but she didnt think of the damage it all could cause...woman never do Difference is with men ..men dont care about the psychological damage they do to women Women psychological damage usually isnt done on purpose but still has the same affect. I heard that Remember the time was about Dianna as well
Diana beautiful!!
Dam this is just slander lol
Did Michael wrote dirty diana cuz of Diana Ross, so he means she's dirty
@taylorsara253
Жыл бұрын
Not that kind of dirty... She broke his ❤️ and he was angry. DD was a FU song to her...
@holyempressw8531
Жыл бұрын
No. She broke his heart. She married another man and he was jealous. He made the song sound like it was for groupies......but it was for her. She flirted with many men and got him jealous .
@sandraphillips1718
Жыл бұрын
She was just playing games with Michael. She broke his heart. She married only white men with money.
@sandraphillips1718
Жыл бұрын
She accepted money, jewelry, and anything she could get from Michael. So sad. She was just leading him on.
@hagarwaleed6181
Жыл бұрын
@@sandraphillips1718 so I'm right right, do ya girl agree with me
I have no respect for Diana Ross after this sad and sick story
اگه عاشق دایانا بود چرا با او ازدواج نکرد.مایکل دایانارو دوست داشت .به عنوان دوست صمیمی .
Naw I don't think he smashed or so I think 🤔
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
11 ай бұрын
Definitely did....
So she groomed him 😮
@melolabean7656
7 ай бұрын
Yes
Michael Jackson had a fearful avoidant attachment.
broooo you can tell just by the way he looked at her he was in love with her,,,,,i bet he wanted to mary her,,,,i bet he asked,,,and i bet she was to afraid to do it because of what people would say,,,and i bet that broke michael the rest of his life that he couldnt have the only girl he ever loved
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
Right I watched his eyes and he was smitten with her
@hadinapokalix7329
Жыл бұрын
@@DieshaShakela never seen him look at anyone like that ever,,,I just discovered this story,and now everything makes sense why he was sad his entire life
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
@@hadinapokalix7329 Yeah. She should of sat him down n told him from the start she would never marry him... Mike always believed she would n he wasted about 20 yrs fighting to make it happen..
@CloutMoney
9 ай бұрын
Diana Ross was a bed wench there I Said it😂💯
still a mystery
I've been always thrilled about their story. Doesn't matter where Mike is be it at an awards show or at concerts, he always stayed the same giving Diana double kisses on her cheek and hugged her tight in a long time never letting go abruptly like the others who would greet her onstage. He didn't care about the public. As to his hit single Dirty Diana, MJ said in his interview with Barbara Walters back in '97, it's not about her. It's not Diana Ross it's about groupies and his experiences with his brothers and these girls backstage for many years.. People immediately jumped to targeting Diana during the Bad era because of the timing, the title, and the hardcore heartfelt lyrics to the song which they mistakenly thought right away that MJ was writing about her. But it's not no not Diana Ross.. Michael could never do that to her in such a bad light through a song in an album that has bad theme all over the place. He'd write more about his heartbreak of losing someone he loved than being so mad about that person for hurting him.. He'd write more about the tabloids, the press, the injustice, the unfairness of the media in his songs more than any other artist I ever know than writing about Diana.. He loved her with all his life. She's the first love of his life. When he lost her it took him so many years just to be over her and yet he was still depressed. He may say that he was over her but to me I don't think so. He's still badly hurt and completely in love her but couldn't have her. Yet she remained his 2nd mom, a mentor, a friend, a lover. I see mom/son issues with them though but I understand. He started off in the business really young. The only female apart from his mom who he can look up to and guide him in the industry is Diana. I'm sure something else went on behind the doors. It's just they both shared genuine affection throughout the years.
@DieshaShakela
11 ай бұрын
Exactly! Its was beautiful
@starr4490
11 ай бұрын
@@DieshaShakela 🤗I really want to thank you, Diesha for that infovideo you made I forgot to put it in my comment. Sorry that was very long.😅 I felt I had to speak for both of them to the others coz I love Diana Ross and Michael Jackson so much. I don't want other people to put them in a bad light so easily. They're wonderful artists. I also want to add that Dirty Diana was Princess Diana's favorite MJ song. 😊
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
11 ай бұрын
Wrong. D Ms Ross was like a 2nd mom when he was a KID. She took care of him for a few months and they were always very close. But he had a serious crush that got so bad his mom took him from Diana hoping to end his infactuation but it got stronger. He fell headlong in love with her and pursued her Relentlessly. Ms Di did NOT want ppl to know this. That's why she used the "he's like my son cover story_ I researched this for about 2 yrs n Ms Ross was sleeping with Mike from about the age of 18!! His 22 yr cameraman told it all in his book and talked about walking in on them at the peach tree 🏨. They were also caught in set of Wiz and some B)B Mike bought Diana in 80s There's a reason Mike said dozens of times that he loved Diana and wanted to MARRY her!! There's a reason why he called her His world and said he'd love her forever... Notice he DID... And DD WAS 4 her. But no way was he going to tell that to the public. He was angry when he write that. They were engaged when Ms Ross ran off with the white guy. He had a lot of reason to be enraged. DD was a get even with a slut song ( Not calling Ms R a slut) but that's just how he was feeling then.. But Mike admitted MANY of his songs were ( as he put it). To and for DIANA and DD was definitely one of them that's why she was mad and later laughed & said at her concert that her baby write DD for her and she sang it!!!
@dolly-gq9lr
10 ай бұрын
How do you know michael propose to her? And how do you know he gave her an engagement ring?
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
10 ай бұрын
@@dolly-gq9lr If you saw 85 Grammys they were on stage kissing deep and she was wearing his ring...
Wasn't she the woman who were rumored to have sexually abused Michael when he was 12 yo to then kept him under his control to take his virginity at 17 yo and threw him like a piece of shit? Even if all of this isn't true or exact, I hate her so much. Michael deserved better!
@DieshaShakela
9 ай бұрын
He did deserve better...yeah she did something.
@AGirlWithoutAName
9 ай бұрын
@@DieshaShakela poor Michael 😞
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
There is no evidence to suggest MJ was sexually abused by anyone.
@MSILBB
2 ай бұрын
There is no evidence to support this.
Don’t spread lies
@LeLouvre634
12 күн бұрын
No lies here about their love affair
Is so creepy to say in the same sentence "Mother and lover" mybe she abused him !!
thats is real mother shes biilie jean and hes the kid
Michael wanted to be a DeBarge. If we're talking about what drove his "transformation". That Diana thing, I believe, was misdirection. Period. Good post though. Diana Ross is on my top most beautiful famous women of all time. Along with Kenya Moore and others.
@ErinDeNis
Жыл бұрын
No. What drove his transformation were natural causes. Michael definitely had vitiligo: it was on his autopsy report and if you look up pictures between the late 70’s and 80’s, you’ll see clear images of skin discoloration all over his body. His hair was a result of the Pepsi burns. After that, he had to wear wigs. Look up pics of those burns, they were awful. Michael didn’t want to be anyone but Michael. He had outsold and out performed the DeBarge family before he even reached puberty.
@watersunjones7758
Жыл бұрын
@@ErinDeNis Copy that. My statement was driven by understanding who he was around growing up. Thought it was interesting he grew up around that family and ended up "looking" like one of them later in life. Maybe how the males looked had some impact on him at some point?? Either way, good convo. Definitely not married to any one theory.😉
Michael Jackson, the secret love child of Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson 😲
@Kettyparry-ou1zk
Жыл бұрын
Bull.
@brizzy4932
Жыл бұрын
@@Kettyparry-ou1zk No?... Don't believe Me? How else do You explain the Jackson discovery story?
@0ne0nlyLarry
Жыл бұрын
@brizzy4932 I think it's explained very well that his father met with Suzanne and she introduced them to Berry Gordy. Where tf did you get this idea of Diana and Smokey having Michael as a child?
@brizzy4932
Жыл бұрын
@@0ne0nlyLarry Not so, the only reason the Jackson 5 was created was so that Barry Gordy can bring Michael Jackson back to Diana Ross. The child she had abandoned for fame and fortune.
@marmackk
10 ай бұрын
@@brizzy4932 He looks like his mother Katherine Jackson.All the Jackson sibling have similare looks. Same high cheek bones Are you telling me that Diana gave birth to Janet who he looks the most like,Jermaine,Latoya,Marlon .Rebie,Titoetc.Stop the nonense.
I knew MJ 's love stories many of them:)) ..I mean he really loved talkin about his affairs as a private person:) Its not just the Glenda tapes it really happened all time.Everyone says that Diana was His true love but its not true. MJ had a fiancee from who Dangerous album is about mostly he really loved her and stay connected till his death. Thats why he wanted to settle in Dubai (his fiancee was from Saud Arabia from a royal family but lived in Dubai later)..MJ was really wild and such a womanizer as his father was..like all of his brother was. But y cause of his traumatic childhood he had a repetitive negative relationship patterns and a really deep emotional hunger. That means He could really love someone but could not connect. That happened with his fiancee and with all his relationship. Diana may be was the same:)). Actaully MJ never put a ring on Diana's finger and Diana never wanted to marry MJ
@ggpierson5527
11 ай бұрын
This is the "S" story that was all over the place online years ago and it got debunked. Just stop.
@taylorsara1237
4 ай бұрын
That's a lie. There's a pic of Di kissing him in the mouth wearing the ring on King Michael blog!! And he said over n over n over Diana Ross was the LOHL. So ypu know who HE LOVE better than him??? And He cared for Liss but was NOT deep in love with her ever. When he was asked 3x in 3 diff intervs if he loved Lisa he kept saying he LIKED her n wished her well ...
5 minutes wasted...mostly not true at all.
@DieshaShakela
Жыл бұрын
What was untrue in your opinion?