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The Miami Heat are off to an uninspiring start to NBA free agency. Heat fans have been hoping their team could strike a deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers to acquire Donovan Mitchell. Unfortunately for Miami, the Cavs star has signed an extension with Cleveland and committed long term. Hosts Ethan Skolnick and Alex Donno discuss where Pat Riley can turn to next.
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Ethan questioned why we have do not assets while our rivals have a lot, we keep making the same mistakes and y’all never call it out We lost the greatest player of all time Lebron for nothing, we lost Wade for nothing. This is the literal week we’re losing Caleb for nothing, and a betting man would say we’re losing Jimmy for nothing in 360 days. Asset incompetence. Mentioning a Tyler Johnson contract dispute is laughable
@jay68
2 күн бұрын
Agree 100% Pat paid guys he should have moved when their value was good and let guys walk instead of looking to move them for assets.
Trade Jimmy and Tyler for as many pics as possible. Let the young guys develop and try for young star next year.
@jimmyjay689
2 күн бұрын
Only the Sixers wanted Jimmy
@derekl9881
2 күн бұрын
That's not smart
Hire Wade and retire Riley
Need to get rid of Hero, he is going to be an issue, should have traded him before they gave him the contract
@Dizzelsoul3542
2 күн бұрын
Pat Riley groomed Herro to be the leading scorer and won't included in any major trades ( if there is) A streaky shooter who's offense was offset by his defense .He's effective to lead he second unit but pride got better of him and smallball lover Spo spoiled him
Its time to trade Jimmy and Herro for picks and tank for a young star! This build is over!
Letting go of Max, Gabe, and Caleb (potentially Highsmith) was a forced decision as they did not have the money or did not want to spend on keeping those players here. The issue with those decisions is how we let these guys walk away and manage to not get any assets for them. We knew Caleb was going to opt out since the beginning of this year. Instead of trying recoup some of his trade value, we let it play out for a first round embarrassment. We have assets. The FO has just chosen to let them go.
The Dame stuff wasn’t guaranteed either. Lmao
We got to get over this Bam is friends with everyone bull , doesn't mean they want to play for Miami , Mitchell is Cleveland's franchise player , he wants to get paid and have say in the team why would anyone think he wanted out
@markc1839
2 күн бұрын
Precisely - more Heat media and fan delusion.
@derekl9881
2 күн бұрын
Heat fans suck now.
The only team that wanted Butler was Philly...that ship has sailed
No to Levine. Trade Bulter now, and tank. Try and get Cooper Flagg. The problem is that when you develop undrafted guys they are pretty much guys that GM's didn't value then and don't now. Our starters are always hurt because Spo's small ball and therefore don't look or play as well as they should. We need to shake things up from top to bottom. It starts with Riley.
They don’t have assets because they gave up 2025 lottery protected first to OKC as revision of Okpala trade and 2027 first for Rozier.. both look horrible now
It’s our fault that Tyler Herro is still here
@BoomBapAce
2 күн бұрын
More like Pats fault
@MakeWorldGreatAgain2024
2 күн бұрын
More like Jimmy's fault
I really don't see why everyone is so upset about the roster. Miami will be fine, and I know for sure that Miami will finish top 3-4 this season. Miami will be healthier and a lot better this year. We will beat all those so-called top teams and then make it back to the finals.
@Andrew-un5jj
2 күн бұрын
People are cry babies. They don't see the big picture.
@ddninja3348
2 күн бұрын
@@Andrew-un5jj You making some sense over their.
Riley should pivot and check out Darius Garland's availability. All they need is an elite PG without giving too much
Which team would be interested in trading for Jimmy? It’s a one year rental so we would not get much back I think. But trading Jimmy, getting Trae who is only 25 and surrounding him with great defensive players would be a good move for the future I think. A young core of Trae, Jaquez, Bam, Jovic and Ware is pretty solid
It does not fit!!! Not talking about a bit swing how about Bruce Brown from Toronto and Finney from Brooklyn for Tyler somehow something creative like that somebody that can fit because Tyler does not fit Brown can start at the two finish and start at the four
The Heat are a defensive minded team and we need an offensively gifted player so I’m all for Trae young and his playmaking is something we need! He makes us better
Fans always the big splah, never changes because they are fans.
Ethan i wonder why Bam signed that extension? Like this roster isn’t good
@markc1839
2 күн бұрын
Has he officially signed?
@chirocket4791
2 күн бұрын
It is always $$
Are you kidding me, depending on where his attitude is!!!! He is an employee, a highly paid employee. How is it possible for anybody to respect this guy if this is part of the deal.
I’m talking about Ethan’s comment on Miami’s potential position in the conference after a full season. Paid what 30 mill?? And he is allowed to mop around and make a decision as to what game merits giving 100% effort. WTF!!
I dont know what pat thinks but the fans dont believe in him i sure don't
That was a terrible decision by Donovan 🤦♂️ even if you didn't want to go to Miami why would you sign an extension when you had a choice to go wherever you want next summer.
They could have made smaller moves to help this team and they haven't they need to trade jimmy, herro and go full rebuild
Bam needs to answer for his relationships and not getting his guys here
@naynayMia305
2 күн бұрын
Bingo.
@AitorArGar
2 күн бұрын
Why would you put this on Bam? It’s this front office fault for making awful decision, paying the wrong guys, and expecting that injuries will never happen
@ebby7878
2 күн бұрын
TBH, superstars who change teams try to go play with another one. Bam is a high-level role player, at best. Just being candid.
@Dizzelsoul3542
2 күн бұрын
@@ebby7878Exactly
For some odd reason , the entire Heat podcast community seems stagnant like the Heat . Not once have a Heat Podcaster suggested anything daring , like , say , trading Bam ! Let's be honest , Bam is not an elite basketball player . There's nothing in his game that is unstoppable . Last season , his midrange game abandoned him and there were times when he couldn't make free throws . Admit it Bam has maxed out his potential as a player , his presence on the team is holding the Heat back . He's not a stretch player at the 5 or 4 position . And at this point in his career , it would be ludicrous to switch Bam , it never would work . The Heat Big 3 is in football terms nothing but a bust !
Ethan, you always say the Dame trade wasn’t miami’s fault because Joe didn’t want to work with the front office. However, wasn’t it reported the front office only offered tyler and picks. Why would joe ever agree to that trade ?
@dmen0563
2 күн бұрын
That was a,false report
If the Heat don't change we will lose Bam to the Celtics in 2 years once KP's contract is done. Don't believe he'll put team before rings and legacy (which he may not get with the Heat).
The Heat keep at it like this and Bam is gonna be asking out and I won’t blame him. Wasting his prime.
Pat Riley i trust!...Mickey A. is still the Owner! So if u want to criticize the Organization, better buy your own franchise
Miami Heat NEWS FLASH: Pat may be dead and dead. He is not just oversleeping!
They should have played the year out with Kyle ,would be off his contract now and have money to spend , Even tho Kyle was old etc., they could have used him against Boston
Only team that are better or that I’m scared of would be New York and Boston.
Also stop building players up just to lose them for nothing...TRADE THEM
Trade Terry to create space and sign Miles Bridges. Move Herro to PG and a lot of problems are solved on both ends of the floor.
The Heat front office is overrated as is our so-called stars (who under perform), Spo (who is a .544, 0 chips and terrible offensive coach without LBJ). We need Brad Stevens. Pay him whatever he wants and he'll course correct.
Pat Riley and the owner needs to go we never can make any good moves
That individual being Jimmy butler, if this is true never again wearing his putrid number
Not better than Orlando, Indiana and Cleveland 😂😂 ok , we are going to act like last years playoff debacle was the norm … this team healthy is closer to The finals than yall leading on
I guess let's just go ahead and get Trey young and call it it a year
Trade herro and duncan Robinson for zach lavine and take the first round chicago is attaching with lavine.
Um i wouldn't say miami is better than Toronto 😂 thats a toss up because is jimmy going to play?
You'll take nothing and like it.