Awesome guide Peter, really liked your explanations! I thought the different binder animation were interesting, so I did a few tests with it. Turns out him being in air or on ground makes no difference. It's only affected by the speed multiplier when enraged + when entering P3. So the 2 examples at around 09:45 shows the fastest (P3 + enraged) and the slowest (P2 + not enraged) animation.

@petercho546

5 ай бұрын

Well I'll be damned. Good to know! I noticed the inconsistency where sometimes I would bind Fatty right on the floor but the animation timinf/bind release was the same as if I had binded him out of the air. This made me think it may be dependent on his current animation or perhaps his stance (on rear legs or all 4's), but this makes sense. Thanks man!!

You can avoid the lava pool after Fatty cone attack by doing a foresight slash. It's available to do straight after helm breaker, literally immediately

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

yes, good point. And it is faster. You can foresight sooner after helmbreaker than rolling after helmbreaker.

@ibross100

10 ай бұрын

​@@petercho546Keep up your vids man. I literally came on KZread for a guide on how to position myself to set up for Helm Breaker and happened on your vid. Well done 👍🏾

@ChaseR206

4 ай бұрын

are those sword affects a mod? i have that layered weapon but i’ve never seen those affects

@kaisen576

4 ай бұрын

@@ChaseR206yes

@bro967

3 ай бұрын

Do you still need to eat for Felyne Lander for this?

Really nice breakdown!

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope it helps

Great video! i beat fatalis for the first time solo 3 ish weeks ago, after watching peppo and tds take down fatalis with and wirhout herorics and ever since then have been practicjng getting the head helmsbreakers on his walks forward and back on all 4s or 2s, while i am slowly getting better at it this video helped greatly, ive gotten 900 hunts in with longsword and didnt know there were seperate movement mechanics for the up and downstroke of the longsword, that and when/where to aim on his head punishes were so useful, and fatalis backing into walls doing them, never even thought of that, thanks for making this video your a lifesaver!

@petercho546

7 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful man. Even after 1200 hours on LS im still learning new stuff about the weapon. Keep watching other people's runs as well. Lots of different ways and some are better than others. A few of the tips in this video are "wrong", as in after learning even more, I'm like "yeah that helmbreaker position in the video isn't that good" or the on text tips might say "dont do directional input" whereas now my opinion has changed but. Thats minor stuff. Thanks for watching!

Wow, great breakdown!

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope you find it useful.

Best vid I’ve seen on this. Cheers

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Perfect video, sometimes you need more than heavy equipment to win against certain monster in the game.

Amazing guide , explains very detailed and isn't gibberish , also thx peter for helping me beat Fatalis for the first time :)

@petercho546

5 ай бұрын

Haha no problem and thank you

I'm lvl 999 and I had no idea you could use helmbreaker mid IAI and after Forsyth slash!!!! Ty thumbs up and a sub from me

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help! Those never taught weapon combos and cancels are all over for every weapon. Watching speedruns really helps a lot for finding them as well. Thanks for the like and sub

@andimnaufala8213

Жыл бұрын

Can you write down the time when he do that? I new so i want to learn

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

@@andimnaufala8213 Sorry for the late reply. At 0:26 is when I do foresight slash. at 0:27 is when I cancel the forward slash of foresight slash and go into helmbreaker. For Iai Spirit Slash, I do it at 1:00, and I do Helmbreaker right after it.

@albal156

6 ай бұрын

I never knew you could do it either and I've gotten pretty decent at Foresight Slash.

Here is the link for the longsword mod. www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/5840

@daggerhappy

6 ай бұрын

Took you long enough

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@daggerhappy people kept asking lol

@fluueee_7332

5 ай бұрын

Was just gonna ask for this haha

the tech is insane

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

It's why I like the game. And it's also why Rise is garbage dick shit.

Always nice to see our stupid as hell shenanigans in the end of a video.

Watched the world record LS run for Fatalis; toward the end, where he's pinned by the ropes, you can keep jumping off the left of the small wooden platform while jump attacking his head. Time it right with his convulsing and it's big dps. Was pretty neat to learn that's possible. Not a helmbreaker tip, but I guess the tip is to not helmbreak there if it works out. xD

@petercho546

4 ай бұрын

Yep! Something I saw as well. Aerials in this game are so strong, it's a shame we rarely get a chance to do stuff like that. But the dps is crazy ya.

I didn't notice the top left until crip walk showed up and burst out laughing

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

We (me and some guys I was helping) used it to differentiate between the other attacks where he walks forward. And the way he sways left and right.

@matthewmorrison3745

10 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 Absolutely brilliant

You can ISS to helmbreaker at the start of the 3rd phase. It's a bit difficult to pull off though.

@petercho546

4 ай бұрын

you can also foresight to make it easier. Theres a comment somewhere here asking me to show how to do it but the short answer is, it's not really worth doing it unless you're solo or speedrunning ta wiki rules.

Your buddy is funny

Is that the azure star's layered weapon? where did all the cool effects come from lol, using the same layer for my LS and never seen those flame things

@petercho546

Ай бұрын

My comment has the link to the mod

Can you do a guide on how to pull helmbreaker at the start of phase 3 (when Fatalis still in the air)? Apparently, there is a split second where you can connect the helmbreaker initial hit when Fatalis flap its wings. I found some videos on some people pulling it off but they do not put comment/guides like you do, so I have hard time pulling it off consistently.

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

I have seen that and I don't recommend learning it unless you are really trying to just play for yourself even in a team environment. 1. I am always the one using the binder right after 2nd nova/beginning of 3rd phase to bind him out of the air. This stops him from flying around like an asshole and also it gives a chance to do more head damage since his attacks will be buffed if you have not gotten 1 or 2 head breaks. So for me, there is no opportunity to do that helmbreaker. 2. Even if I am not binding (which would only happen if someone else were to be the bind shooter), it would be better for me (and everyone else not doing the binder) to go to the small ramp on the floor in front of the ballista in preparation for the bind. If the binder is on the ballista and the other 3 players are on the ramp, Fatalis will always look in the same direction regardless of who he targets since everyone is already lined up. His head will land nicely on the ramp, making it easier to hit consistently as it moves a lot, and the head is now closer to the guy shooting the binder so he gets to start attacking sooner because he has to cover less distance. 3. You can simply watch people doing it on other vids, looking at their positioning on the ground, the timing, and where they aim and do it that way. You don't need a guide with text explanations and freeze frames but it's not always super easy to learn. 4. I don't know how to do it myself lmfao. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

@almondxsant4047

Жыл бұрын

@@petercho546 You give fair points and I do agree with that. I solely want to practice because of the cool factor lol.

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

@@almondxsant4047 It is cool and thats all the reason you need. Tbh when I first saw that helmbreaker opening my jaw dropped. It is fucking cool.

Just reached fatty around 170 hours into the game and have been trying him for 10 hours. Getting my ass eaten everytime as soon as I reach red gauge lmaooo. I'm starting to get used to all of fatty's moves but not well enough to position to initiate the helmbreakers yet, especially on his crip walk since I keep standing on his left and getting straight up roasted 🙃

Just fyi you could've easily foresighted out of those helmsplitters during the cone to avoid the exploding puddle.

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to show the point of how being late to the helmbreaker can get you hit/killed. There, you could have maybe foresighted? The recovery time for helmbreaker before you can do any action like roll or foresight is pretty long.

@RepublicofODLUM

Жыл бұрын

@@petercho546 it would've been close for sure but the recovery after helmsplitter isnt that long at all, less than a second. Either way, its still something people should know they can do as I see a lot of people who have hundreds of hours with LS not know they can. Great video though, very well laid out for people 👍 Edit: one more thing, you can also press y/triangle while in the air to come down with the helmsplitter faster.

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

​@@RepublicofODLUM At 1:14, I do foresight after helmbreaker. You can hear me hitting spacebar in the clip actually. So unless the recovery time is different for rolling vs foresight, and you can foresight sooner than you can roll, I don't think you can foresight that quickly but I could be wrong or that could be the case. I'mma go test it now actually lol. I'll update you on the results. Edit: yes you can definitely foresight just a fraction of a second earlier than rolling, when it comes to the recovery time of helmbreaker. Great catch man. Strange to still be learning stuff about the weapon even after hundreds of hours on it.

@RepublicofODLUM

Жыл бұрын

​@@petercho546 Yeah, this game has so many mechanics going on under the hood its insane. My bad for missing that foresight from helmsplitter.

It got more than 10 views! I have really been trying to follow your advice, i have been nonstop back to back solo attempts for fatalis after taking a long break from the game and I have not gotten 1 kill in 3 days. If you are ever able to help me some time it would be strongly welcomed. Thanks again for the video

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

I'm out of state until the 5th of Jan, but add me on discord if you want! Discord name is zealousabsurd

@Kermit_E_Frog

6 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 Will do!

BROOOO i did it with 2 mins mins to spare and carved a fatalis evil eye JUST thank you hopefully you will help me when wilds come out?

@petercho546

4 ай бұрын

Haha thats awesome man. Good stuff. We'll see about wilds. So far the trailer literally just being nothing but 10 shots of "hunter rides animal" doesn't make me excited, and Crapcom hardly seems loyal to their fanbase. Ialso personally could never play through World again with the bugs, glitches, tedium, bullshit, so if Wilds is any the same, it would be a shame.

@dragonriderjohann7683

4 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 no worries thanks for being honest and I am playing Sunbreak and enjoying the heck out of it I love the MAGALA TRIO as well

If you do a headbreak with a helmbreaker, should you follow up with a 2nd stack helmbreaker? Or just get 3rd stack

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

you should pretty much NEVER do helmbreaker unless you are at 3 stacks. Though if youre just practicing, throw em out whenever

"people who are getting to Fatails too early, like 400 hours too early" me, with 250 hours trying to find any tutorial on how to even hit the head, let alone break it:

I like the skill msg notification sound of yours is it a mod?

i beat him without single helm breaker, took me long tho

I've been watching your video for the past few days, and have been hunting solely fatty. If it's alright with you and if you're on PC, would you like to hunt fatty together?

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Sure! Hit me up on discord. Its in the video description. I'll be home by tomorrow though, currently out of state

So I beat him with LS but boy am I bad at gauge uptime (and because of this I haven't had enough practice with positioning for Helmbreakers. Can never execute Helmbreakers because I never have full red meter (and the UI makes it difficult to read if its red or not, MH:Rise UI for LS is so much better.) Also the timing to imput the thrust for the helmbreaker is generally after Fatalis put his arm down I've found.

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

It takes some practice, and perhaps theres a mod that changes the colors. If you're just practicing helmbreakers, throw them out at any stack! For general play you should only ever do helmbreakers at max red stacks but if you're just practicing, throw them out even on white stacks! The stacks are not meant to last very long, but if you are struggling with uptime, you should also practice foresight slashes into roundslashes. Don't ever build stacks with the super long spirit combo attack. There are hardly any opportunities to do so. If you want to extend the duration of your stacks, you can get the skill "power prolonger" and that will help your stacks stay active longer. Ultimately, it takes hundreds of attemps and hundreds of hours to get good at it, and thousands to master it. Good luck!

@albal156

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! @@petercho546 yeah in my build theres no more space for Power Prolonger. I'd be subbing out other skills that are crucial for damage.

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@albal156 The only skills you "need" for damage are the main 3, that being critical eye, critical boost, and weakness exploit. You technically dont need any damage skills and can kill Fatalis with a bone shotel 1. Go for more comfort/stay alive skills lile health boost, evade window, evade extender, recovery up, speed eating, free meal, and divine blessing. Those will help you learn much better than doubling your damage.

@albal156

6 ай бұрын

Yeah @@petercho546 I have Agitator Peak Perf, Crit eye and Attack Boost. Could sub out Attack Boost for DB. And tbh Evade Extender is the BEST survivability skill. I use it on CB and it helps a ton.

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@albal156 Noice. If your goal is to practice, then who cares about damage right?

I just wanna know. Actually I dont cuz im sure I know the answer :( is that glowing effect aroudn your sword a mod and therefore pc only? Im sure it is

@petercho546

8 ай бұрын

Yep. Get a pc now!!

It seems almost impossible for me, nowadays, to really want to hit him on the head. He almost always spends his time on 2 legs or moves in such a way that I don't hit the helmet breaker, he moves unexpectedly at the last second, or he directly kills me in the air in an illogical way due to his poorly made hitboxes

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Ill give a more detailed response later but for now, it's just practice.

@KiiroCraft997

Жыл бұрын

@@petercho546 At the moment I am practicing with a mod called " Fair Challenge Fatalis Quest " but even if the bug does not stand still, or never leaves the head exposed to attacks. I feel that sometimes it is more RNG than skill :/

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

@@KiiroCraft997 So from the top. "He spends a lot of time on his rear legs." : in terms of helmbreakers, there's actually arguably more opportunities for helmbreakers than when he's on all 4's. When he's on all 4's though, it is easier to hit his head of course. "He moves in such a way that I don't hit the helmbreaker." : It takes a lot of practice, and I mean hundreds or thousands of attempts, to learn the positionings and timings and to be consistent at it. The only time his movements or animations are different is sometimes his animations are sped up or slowed down (depends on host, ping, framerate, weird stuff) or if he's against a wall of some sort that stops his movement, like if hes walking forward during an attack, if there's a wall in front of him, obviously he wont be moving forward anymore. "He moves unexpectedly at the last second." : Because most of his attacks are consistent animations, this should be false for most things. One exception is when he roars (like after being wallbanged) while on all 4's. Where his head ends up/moves at the end of the roar animation is rng as he will try to look toward whatever player he decides to target. However, if you mean he is snapping away because he is launching his next attack at some other player/palico, it simply means you are too slow/late with your helmbreaker. Being a quarter or half second early or late will result in big changes, such as missing. "He directly kills me in the air due to his poorly made hitboxes." : Actually in my opinion, the hitboxes are good and quite generous at times, its the attack's from your weapon(s) that can be a bit finnicky. But regarding you getting hit mid air, yeah I'd have to assume that's you throwing out helmbreakers when you're not supposed to. You can't just throw them out and hope they land. If an attack animation is shorter than the entirety of Spirit Helmbreaker (from input to downswing), it cannot be an opening. All the openings shown in this video are essentially 100% foolproof because they are all on attacks where you have enough time to completely finish the helmbreaker attack animation. "Fair Challenge Fatalis Quest and it feels rng." : I'm all for using whatever gives you the advantage while learning. Use that mod and any other mod to your content. But Fatalis is not any more rng than any other monster, he's just brutally (and perhaps unfairly) overpunishing. Now that I've essentially peaked at Fatalis with Longsword, I can confidently say only about 1/50 deaths is truly rng, and I usually die once every 2-5 runs. I have about 500 kills on Fatalis, but easily over 5k attempts. Add me on Discord if you wanna do some Fatty hunts! Or we can call/stream and I can give advice that way.

@KiiroCraft997

Жыл бұрын

@@petercho546 It would help me a few classes to fight the fatalis of someone as experienced as you xD but unfortunately I really speak Spanish, and I don't understand much English either :/ I can barely read it fairly well. I have tried to imitate the movements of other speedrunners to be able to break even 1 horn in the first phase, but the bug does totally different things sometimes. Or it moves from a starting position, when in videos it remains 90% still in your starting position.

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

@@KiiroCraft997 I believe that is just practice that is necessary, and you might be missing some weapon mechanics as well but I don't know. Learning the attacks of Fatalis is the biggest part. Learning the helmbreakers is the second part. If you try for long enough, eventually you will get it. Don't be fooled. Those speedrunners have literally thousands of kills, 10's of thousands of attempts, to get their fastest runs. They make it seem like the head remains still in the starting position because they know the perfect position and angles and directions to be in, which they can do because they know the attack PERFECTLY. You will get headbreaks if you focus on the head. One hit on the head is worth 20 on the body. Keep practicing!. Add me on discord if you would like.

When you say 400 hours too early what play time should I expect to get to fatty? Im at just shy of 200 hours and I just got to the guiding lands with 2 zones to lv5 xd

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

It depends on the player, but normally you'd have several hundred, perhaps over a thousand, hours before getting to Fatalis. Far too many players are getting to Fatalis before theyve even learned the most basic fundamentals of the game. Ive seen 600 hour players struggle, I've seen 150 hour players excel.

Handsome ass voice in the background

@petercho546

9 ай бұрын

pin of shame reatrd

@daggerhappy

8 ай бұрын

​@@petercho546ok but I have your address

400 hours isnt too early cause i soloed him with about 300! Got carted multiple times but still soloed

@petercho546

4 ай бұрын

400 hours too early*. Lots of new players (basically every single one) are getting to fatalis within 100 hours having no understanding of the most basic fundamentals of the game. You can thank Crapcom for that.

@moonki6688

4 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 oh ok

What is that layered weapon you used this video

@vypersretreat7423

3 ай бұрын

Azure Star Blade

is it the little sound when a talent activates is it in the base game?

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Im not sure what you mean but I have n9 audio based/altering mods so its base game.

what are the visual mods u had on with your longsword?

@petercho546

7 ай бұрын

azure blaze longsword commission on nexusmods

0::25 that blue aura, is that a mod or just the weapon?

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

Mod. Azure Blaze Longsword Comission on Nexusmods

what's the mod for the effect of the long sword

@petercho546

7 ай бұрын

Sorry, I missed this comment because I thought I already replied to it since others have asked the same question. Nexusmods, azure blaze longsword comission

howd you get the blue effects? it looks nice

@noyaaaaa_

4 ай бұрын

nvm, just saw the comments! i;ve installed it but idk how to unzip the rar ;-;

@petercho546

Ай бұрын

​@@noyaaaaa_You need winrar or 7zip

@noyaaaaa_

Ай бұрын

ty but i quit long time ago 😭

Question how are you making your sword flash with blue so much?

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

azure blaze longsword comission from nexusmods

@ryanyogianto

6 ай бұрын

​@@petercho546is it also comes with that sound effect too?

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@ryanyogianto Theres no mods that affect sound as far as I know.

How to get special effects like that? i mean the blue aura

@petercho546

5 ай бұрын

it is in my pinned comment. Please be careful if you are going to mess with files and such.

@fnkch6835

5 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 i appreciate it man

when you said too early, what did you mean? I reached fatalis at 350ish hours.

@petercho546

3 ай бұрын

Fatalis came out years after the game was released. So the players that had been playing before fatalis had more experience beforehand. Now, a new player can get to Fatalis before HR 40, when they've learned almost nothing about the game. The result is you get players who have no idea how to use their weapons, no idea how to fight monsters (positioning, timing, dodging, etc), and rely on stupidity like artillery and mantles.

that sword effect looks cool. Is that a mod or is that really in game?

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

Mod. Azure blaze Longsword Commission on nexusmods

@Azex824

6 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 hey thank so much for the reply. This video is really helpful I am still practicing it as I havent killed fatalis yet

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@Azex824 Don't give up

@alphaomegatwo759

6 ай бұрын

do you know if the mod is still working I know a lot of mods that havent been updated recently in 2023 have been breaking since the update in november@@petercho546

@alphaomegatwo759

6 ай бұрын

nvm i said screw it went ahead and tried downloading it and it works ty

how you put effect on your weapon like that?

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Azure blade mod on nexusmods. If you cant find it, I can link it but im out right now

Awesome LS mod. Where can i get that?

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

nexusmods. Azure star blade longzword comission

What long sword augments was you take it?

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

health and affinity.

How did you get these blue and gold effects while you hit?

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

For the blue effects: www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/5840 For the gold effects (it's the color of the critical hits): www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/4679 and www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/4690

i need this sowrd mod please.. that blue light

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

azure blaze longsword comission. nexusmods

@hussam9254

10 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 ty i got it

what is the effects mod you use - the effects for a successfull foresight is so much more prominent also how does one make the insant 180 in the air ?

@petercho546

4 ай бұрын

the efx mod is somewhere in the comments, both in replies and my own comment. Its the azure blaze longsword efx comission from nexusmods. you can swing in any direction on the downswing of helmbreaker by simply inputting that direction and attacking.

what weapon is this? very beautiful

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

azure blaze longsword comission efx on nexusmods

@heitorcunha1204

6 ай бұрын

I installed it but couldn't use it, which weapon does the mod apply to?

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

@@heitorcunha1204 The sword shown on the video and on the mod page lol. It only works with the azure star longsword

@heitorcunha1204

6 ай бұрын

ah

bur why the effects on the weapon are different?

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

you are a loser

is THAT ME!?!?! REEL!!

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

big if true

@Thesploinker

Жыл бұрын

I think me there too!!!! Daedulun stormbow!!!

What mod is that? Looks cool.

@petercho546

10 ай бұрын

azure blaze comission on nexusmods

@BanTheManofGreed

10 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 nice, thanks!

Wait there… around what rank should a player typically be before trying to beat Fatalis??

@petercho546

Жыл бұрын

Depends entirely on how you want to play it, what you mean by "beating Fatalis", your skill level, etc. In general, at least Hunter Rank 300 ish would be ideal in terms of not having a mental breakdown kind of struggle, but nowadays people are getting to Fatty at HR 40....

plsss send me this mod its insane

Whats ur ls weapon and the mod

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

pinned comment

Hey is it safe to use nexus mod in mhw?

@petercho546

Ай бұрын

As far as I know, nobody has ever been banned or even punished from using mods. Just dont get mods that are cheating, and if you do, don't use them in multiplayer. Not because "you might get caught / reported", but because its a dick move lol. To answer your question, yes it's *basically* 100% safe to use literally any mod.

@ziinash1774

Ай бұрын

@@petercho546 i don't do cheat i just want that mod skin :D btw can i have ur discord brother?

@petercho546

Ай бұрын

@@ziinash1774 Sure! It's zealousabsurd

What weapon using?

@petercho546

Ай бұрын

Longsword. Azure Blaze, using a weapon aesthetics mod

Are the visuals a mod?

@petercho546

8 ай бұрын

yes. Azure blaze longsword comission on nexusmods.

sword mod?

@petercho546

3 ай бұрын

yeah it's a mod

What's the sword with the glory shit

@Mr_Racooner

6 ай бұрын

Glowy *

@petercho546

6 ай бұрын

azure blaze longsword comission on nexusmods

Dude play with keyboard

@petercho546

25 күн бұрын

all my homies hate the radial wheel

@neetcafeguy862

25 күн бұрын

@@petercho546 yeah.. I think it's valid..

crying about people making noises while making a video... just leave vc for 10 minutes you're not gonna die

@petercho546

3 ай бұрын

You sound miserable.

@JohnTitorSG

3 ай бұрын

@@petercho546 Nah I'm right tho, You literally start the video by telling someone to shut up, then if I recall correctly you literally scream at the guy in the middle of the video. The guide is good but you're being a lil' baby man.

@petercho546

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnTitorSG Ok.

@benstephens4488

29 күн бұрын

I thought it was funny

@mardigrxs6980

22 күн бұрын

a true negative person in its wild habitat...reaching for anything to be mad at..what will they specifically pick apart next just to be correct?