[MH:R] Bow Meta in 2.0 | Still Bowken, Gotta Own it
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If you're unfamiliar with the groundwork from where we started, I do recommend checking out the first Bow Basics Video I had done a few weeks back. This is more of an amendment to that video.
That vid: • [MH:R] Bow Basics and ...
Also check out Tidus' Bow Guides too, we talk and discuss a lot of Bow Info with Elpsy on discord so thanks and shout outs to them for bouncing ideas off.
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0:00 - Intro
0:31 - Food Skills / Stam
1:33 - Switch Skills and Silkbinds
4:47 - Bows of Choice
8:37 - Armor Sets
BGM: "Berna Village Theme" - Monster Hunter Generations/ X
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saving when i want to deal big pp dmg.
@-AshrafKhalidAwadNaser
3 жыл бұрын
True bow is for very huge pp dmg no mercy bbc amateur
As a bow main I'm happy with all bowkens
10 min buff from Booster is pretty solid. I wouldn’t describe it as a “short” buff haha
@johndustin80
3 жыл бұрын
Is this confirmed? I never use DBooster because I thought it was like a 3 minute buff lol
@graciaman
3 жыл бұрын
@@johndustin80 haha yup. I use it almost every hunt and every one that goes past 10 min a message pops up at the 10 min mark “the effects of Felyne Booster wore off”
@johndustin80
3 жыл бұрын
@@graciaman Thank you so much! Will start using this from now on.
@JustHANO
3 жыл бұрын
@@johndustin80 yea, I thought it was the same time as the stamia one, but it's 10 mins.
@alexradice8163
3 жыл бұрын
@@graciaman I never even considered using booster before seeing this. Thank you
Your videos are always so detailed! Interested to see how lbg/hbg builds changed
Keep in Mind the Icesteel Bow is only I which means it will have a II and then a unique named upgrade later down the line. Not sure what the meta will look like whenever we get those upgrades but they are expected
Being a Bow main right now is like the greatest thing ever. While it was always super powerful in World, it was NEVER this variable. We've got so many options up the wazoo, you are free to play it however you want. All the Switch skills are viable. The Rampage Bows are all meta and you can choose to run them with Pierce, Spreads or Rapids to fit your playstyle or what works best against the monster. Stamina management is great since Con/Fighter/Dash Juice all stack. There's like no weaknesses to Bow right now.
@simz3192
3 жыл бұрын
This is the Golden age!
@simz3192
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Rise is such a magical title.
@ExImperialDragon
3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing bow since Freedom Unite and it's nice to see the weapon I've loved for 13~ years be one of, if not the, most powerful for once. Not to say it's been bad in years prior, but it's been in the middle of the pack so many times that it's just refreshing that GS, Lance, or HBG aren't above it for once (if Lance seems weird and you never played the 3DS games, just know that for Generations, Lance was *the* fastest weapon in speed runs and post nerf in GU it was still #2 or #3).
@LordStaind
3 жыл бұрын
@@ExImperialDragon Tried the bow in Freedom Unite. Really wanted to like it but in the end I picked up the dual blades, lance and greatsword. Now I main the bow in Rise and loving it. I hope they will never fix the animation cancel for the bow in Rise.
@O1OO1O1
3 жыл бұрын
@@simz3192 it's really not.
Booster is a 10 min atk and def boost, with most hunts beeing 15 min average, it's a really good skill to eat for.
I like how consistent you are with the bowken joke
Cool guide! Have a bubbly dance 2/rapid 2 charm so gonna try and fit that in with this build
@RaFaPilgrim
3 жыл бұрын
Dang that’s a good charm! You can gem in a third point for bubbly dance and pretty much substitute constitution for that too, since you’ll get bubbles after 3 dodges and bubbleblight gives you the benefits of constitution 2/evade window 2.then just go nuts!
At last the guide that I have been waiting for
It's incredible, we're like firmly in Fatalis-armor land (where the set is essentially all slots and you can just completely customize it) with the exception of the feather. Some of the easiest sets to make use Vaik chest and Chrome Metal Coil, which are literally just slot armors. As a note, this is one reason I still kinda prefer the Ice Bow to using a rampage. Since it has a 3 slot, it finishes off Normal Up with the Vaik Braces S, or with an appropriate Normal Up 2 charm (got lucky and have a Normal Up 2 1-1. If it was 2-1, it would be fantastic), and then that leaves you two 3 slots to mess around with.
Love your content. You have a clear and highly informative approach. Thank you for your good work.
Absolute Power Shot also adds exhaust resulting in extra flinching throughout the hunt, which will help keep the tempo in your favor.
@titianarasputin
3 жыл бұрын
The extra stamina drain from the absolute powershot gets annoying at times. Can work around it, just be aware that it exists.
The group meta at the moment is 3 bows and a stamina+attack horn. Let me back this up with some math: According to speedrun google doc at the time of my posting the average Bow WR run time was 2'28", which was fastest among all weapons, while the average HH WR run time was 3'51". If we divide an average monster's life as 100% out by this time we get the %monsterkilled/second, then since the typical 4-person group variant has 2.6x as much HP, we divide by 2.6 to get this weapon's contribution as a percent of the larger heath total per second [1 Bow = 0.259%/sec :: 1 HH = 0.166%/sec]. What would 4 perfect bows speedrunners do? 1.0395%/sec, and would kill the average 4-player monster in 96.2 seconds. What would 3 perfect bows and 1 perfect HH do? Given that the HH applies +10% to +20% attack to the other three bows (we'll say +12% on average if Infernal Melody is up a fifth of the time) the group does 1.03968%/sec, and would kill the average 4-player monster in 96.18 seconds... *BUT* this doesn't factor in that the hunting horn is *also* bringing those three bows from 62.5% less stamina usage to 75% less stamina usage, which makes it even faster. Thus given all averages among the best speedrunners the 3 bows + 1 HH combo, with the HH being stamina/attack, will even discounting the stamina buff be on average faster than 4 perfect bows.
@MoooPZ
3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of silly to base group speedruns on solo speedruns, for example status LBG is practically mandatory for optimal group times, because stunlocking the monster with sticky/para/sleep ammo and traps gives way more damage than a 4th dps (hbg/bow/etc) player or hunting horn buffs.
@alexjgilpin
3 жыл бұрын
@@MoooPZ No, not silly at all. 4xDPS runs can have as much output as 4 single DPS runners combined - as it is also with 3 DPS and a HH. The theoretical numbers are a pretty good projection. Perhaps you should do some tests so you can back up your claim when it comes to LBG status? I suggest trying some 4-person runs with the ammo and put it side-by-side with the theoretical 4th HH and 4th DPS times - that way you have some concrete numbers to compare. I'm betting that 3DPS+1stun will be faster than 4DPS but not as fast as 3DPS+1HH, as the stunlock isn't as much of an effective increase at the highest levels since a good speedrunner knows how to maintain pressure throughout a monster's attacks (a stun wouldn't significantly improve on this speedrun kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4yalpaRg83eiZs.html , for example) while the HH is a flat increase which would stack atop it. Remember, this is Rise, not World. HH is now mid-tier DPS, not bottom-tier, and status builds now need to overcome that new contribution.
absolutely love the no nonsense run down that you give
@pilidod
3 жыл бұрын
I find that Zen has very good SnS tutorials and explanations about why you prioritize certain skills on SnS. He subtitles all of his videos, too. As a new SnS main I greatly appreciate him.
@gingerbeargames
3 жыл бұрын
@@pilidod wonderful! I've not had enough time to dive into switch skills yet apart from on my mains so thats super nice to hear
@phillipmorris6629
3 жыл бұрын
Arekks gaming has the best weapon guides, gaijin hunter as well.
A convo in Capcom's office: A: "Hey I heard there's this one guy on KZread that wants bow to become weaker." B: "I know right! We gave it this really cool animation cancel for big deeps- and he's complainin'!" A: "I guess they don't want their weapons to be strong. Can't please everyone." B: "Nah, they're probably just too good at the game, so they want it to be harder."
@SephyClone7
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair capcom always hated animation cancelling MH games. So its very strange they dont address the bow one
@titianarasputin
3 жыл бұрын
@@SephyClone7 why would anyone say this? the entire series is designed around animation canceling. literally every animation can be canceled. it's fundamental to the game design.
As a new bow user, this was greatly helpful! Also, what armor (guessing layered) are you wearing at the beginning of the video?
There's a mistake on the Narg Pierce Bow Set, you need a Pierce 2 charm or Pierce 1 with level 3 slot to get to Pierce Up 3.
@Sindibad007
3 жыл бұрын
Yah I noticed that as well.
@TofusBigFatButt
3 жыл бұрын
also think there's a mistake at 8:53. It says "CE for narg" and i'm assuming ce is critical element, but the narg bow doesn't have any elements. EDIT 1: Changed time stamp EDIT 2: Nevermind, CE stands for Critical eye. My bad
How do you get in the Narg Pierce, 3 lvls on pierce+?
I’m toying around with the new Tigerex bow atm trying a few builds for that because that damage is too. You to resist
7:00 almost gave me heart attack...
Been playing bow since the beginning and this is the first time I heard and saw about the cancel animation thing. I don't see myself using it though because my playstyle are mostly aerial and some aggressive dodgebolt play lol. I wonder if that was intentional in their part to have that cancel animation because I feel like that shouldn't be in this game at all.
RE: Pierce bows You described Did you overlook Porifera Bow or was it intentionally excluded?
@MortemDeum
3 жыл бұрын
It caps at pierce 4, which is a fair bit weaker than pierce 5.
@exis3383
3 жыл бұрын
Porifera is my go to water pierce, it may only have pierce level 4 but it's a 3 slot weapon which make building a set for it much easier since pierce up is hard to put without sacrificing other skills if you don't have a god charm (still looking for pierce up 2 talisman with at least lvl 2 slot, already have a rapid up 2 with lvl 3 slot so it's possible) Rhenoplos helm is a no go due to mighty bow feather while the other pierce up from the legs (rhenoplos, shell and Kushala) is also a no go since Rakna kadaki greaves with consti 2 and stam surge 2 is way too good
How did u set up your controller I am trying o set up the control like the old monster hunter from play station handheld but I cant get it to work so I am having a hard time using the new control I am trying to use X+A for dragon shot n alot I want zest he camera control to be the left joystick when you hold down aim but I cant figure it out for the life of me.
In the Narg Pierce Bow Build, how did you get 3 pierce when you only have 1 3 slot deco on Vaik Chest and 1 Pierce on the talisman??
@xplux24
3 жыл бұрын
Wondering this myself.
@xykros
3 жыл бұрын
I think he made a mistake. Based on the skills, it's only possible with a Pierce Up 2 charm. It's literally the only way the skill can fit since there's only 1 Lvl 3 slot. However, even with that, the Attack Boost doesn't fit in.
@jaepy3354
3 жыл бұрын
That can only be a mistake, and for that matter the charm is also impossible. Pierce is an S-tier skill which means it can’t roll 2 2-slots: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iBgTZttW-ECbRUy_9zm_FFuiQbi9LT93KuY-2iK5t_g/htmlview#gid=0
Great video, Phemeto. I’ve played a lot of bow since 2.0 and agree with everything you’ve said here. Although bow needs to be nerfed, I’m really pleased the build variety we have right now. And outside of bow, I’m glad to see builds becoming less talisman-centric. Keep up the great vids!
@Phnxkon
3 жыл бұрын
Why does anything in a PvE game need a nerf... ever?
@Bodarnn
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phnxkon Especially in PvE games, buffs and nerfs are important for keeping the gameplay balanced. Each playstyle (or weapon in MH rise) should feel roughly competitive to each other. The ultimate goal is let players to approach the game however they want without feeling like they’re picking an objectively “less powerful” playstyle. In most cases, nerfing a single aspect of the game is easier than buffing everything else. Even if you disagree with that ^, I still think it’s fair to say that the bow’s animation cancel should be fixed (effectively nerfing it too). Happy hunting :)
@Phnxkon
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bodarnn I dont know there's no player driven economy that should honestly make anyone feel like they're missing out. Cancel aside (more of a design choice) never really seen the bow do more damage than other weapons
Trying to understand how you fit Pierce Up 3 in that set with a lv1 charm and only one Lv3 Slot.
@gabeblack8247
3 жыл бұрын
Pierce deco on jurya glaces and chrome waist. Innate pierce on shell chest, and the charm is 2/2/1
@bendodd3
3 жыл бұрын
@@gabeblack8247 He's talking about the Nargacuga Pierce Bow build. It says Pierce 1 Talisman, only has 1 lvl 3 deco slot, but shows Pierce 3 in the skills... and Pierce isn't a native skill on any of the armor pieces.
@artinam93
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly for that set you need a talisman with a lv2 Pierce up and two lv2 slot. More than a God charm
How are you getting Pierce 3 when the only place to slot an extra pierce jewel is in the Vaik 3 slot? Even with a Pierce 1 talisman, you listed 2/2 slots so unless I'm missing something, I can't think of a way that you're getting that third Pierce up.
@strumandsmile
3 жыл бұрын
YER RIGHT! I TRIED TO BUILD THIS AND IM STUCK IN FREAKING PIERCE 2! HEAR THIS COMMENT PHEMETO! HOOOOOOOOOOOW. HOOOOOOOOOOW.
If you have a good charm you can run teo arms and waist to get extra 5 fire on the rakna bow
I just hope we get that lv3 Bow Charge Up deco when they do nerf it
Pierce is more than 6 ticks from what I tested, it's seemingly the entire arrow duration and goes by tick like the pierce ammo shot from h/lbg Edit:Even in your own footage it's showing more than 6 ticks
Pierce up is a level 3 deco. How did you fit it in narga bow set??
Surprised not stacking teo lv 2 soul with fire for more damage. If I am not mistaken angbata stated for his updated fire lbg set they stack.
Thank you :)
How do you have 3 pierce up on the narg pierce bow? I don’t see where you could be getting it
@williammalone8204
3 жыл бұрын
I think he's using chrome metal coil, not the skalda waist. I'm pretty sure with his charm that will get you pierce 3 and all the core crit skills.
At 0:35 you mention the stamina table, does latent power not add anything in here? Or does it use the same category as constitution?
is the animation cancelling youre talking about at 2:05 only possible with rapid arrow?
@titianarasputin
3 жыл бұрын
no. works for all three shot types. works for charging sidestep as well as dodgebolt. this isn't a bug; it's a design decision. that's why it works in more than just this situation.
I really hope they don't remove the animation cancel. A lot of weapons have new cancel tech and it only adds to the experience in my opinion. It's something to learn, it feels and looks cool, and this isn't a competitive game. Having fun is so much more important than worrying about which weapon is getting the best speedrun times. If the elemental modifier stuff wasn't intentional, they should fix it. But intentional or not, they should leave the animation cancel in. It doesn't negatively affect 99% of the people playing the game. And there will ALWAYS be a weapon at the top of the speedrunning charts. People will always chase a new "broken" meta and I hate when developers play the unwinnable game of whack-a-mole with a nerf hammer. It's an endless cycle of everything getting nerfed as soon as something new is at the top. Which only makes the game less fun for the average player that isn't concerned with metas and speedrunning.
1:36 in the morning. Jesus man. I mean. Cant really complain since I'm up as well, but damn.
Dodgebolt + spread bows with C.range+ feels like you're Legolas from LOTR killing monsters in Melee range (the melee attack from dodgebolt seems to benefit from the close range coating)
For the Narga pierce bow set you have, whjere does the last point of pierce up come from? Charm is 1 point Vaik slot is 1 point the last point is lost to me,
How do u get a pierce up charm, i cant find the skill in the list
What was that move in 0:23 when you wirebug out of the monster while holding the bow? I think that not the fall wire bug cuz you taken no dame at all
is it worth going blast element on rampage bows ? TIA
It's funny because I thought I understood English until today. What I seem to understand is that unlike other weapons, bows all have a different moveset which is a combination of spread, rapid (mid range) and pierce (long range), with pierce being the more optimal in most matchups but rapid having the most diversity. Bows landing a lot of hits simultaneously means that a significant portion of your damage will come from elemental damage which makes elemental builds more viable, which also means that switching to the correct element might justify having a worst moveset with fewer pierce arrows in your rotation. Also of note, two rapid bows with similar attack stats might perform very differently because the total MV% of your three hit combo might vary depending on the amount of "rapid 2" and "rapid 3" in there. No convenient way to guestimate damage before making the bow. Also, different bows encourage swapping your first or your fourth attack for a dodge or a spread shot because of lower performance on one specific attack. No bow does passive status damage but all bows have access to some, but not all coatings. Some bows have a "+" effect for a coating which represents a ???% increase to application rate. One assumes that status damage works similar to elemental in that it has flat MV% so only the number of hits counts, which might mean that in some cases, the "+" might be misleading. To use 50 coatings per hunt, you need your cat to permanently farm mushrooms and you need to check for sales. See also money farming tutorials. Your "A" attack in your three/four hit combo does ??? depending on where you put it. No longer rains rock with high stun damage. Different bows have a different effect, apparently, but notably some seem to create a damage boost or a heal mist on the monster, which I guess it mostly good for other players. Then there are switch skills. Most seem to be bad unless you have a very specific build. ... I need to find a video that just tells me in what order I should be pressing the buttons...
@cesarvazquez961
3 жыл бұрын
Always like this: dodge for charge, rapid rapid rapid, power power, and then extend the combo by doing this as long as you have stamina: dodge, rapid, Power power It will keep the maximum charge, and its max DPS, also it doesnt apply to dodgebolt, cuz no charge from that consistently, but thats the combo, hope it helps! Ps: that dodge rapid Power power extension is what people usually call "dash dancing" in bow videos,hope that fills some gaps in your head!
@GregTom2
3 жыл бұрын
@@cesarvazquez961 thanks!
Is Balistics good on pierce? I’ve test it shown no different in maximum range but help in minimum range.
@nomorecritics9243
3 жыл бұрын
The first 2 points of ballistics only improves the minimum range the 3rd point improves the maximum range, it's generally good with pierce if you can fit all 3 points in without sacrificing a bunch of skills
@fairtoki1685
3 жыл бұрын
@@nomorecritics9243 thank you, i will try that. Increase range will be extremely useful
Bherna song make me feels like at home
How are you fitting pierce 3 into the set? 1 from talisman and 1 from the vaik mail cause of the deco slot. Right. Where am I missing the 3rd spot
@i4mCAST
3 жыл бұрын
On the Narg pierce bow set
RE: Elemental pierce bow set Weakness exploit on pierce seems strange given the tics are distributed throughout the monster body. Does weakness exploit not check for each tick separately?
@brandonbeck6730
3 жыл бұрын
I have no clue, but I’d like to assume so? An easy way to check is in the training area Bc the dummy’s head as a 100 hit zone value. So just look up the damage calculation and M A T H
I’ve seen a few vids about this topic. Hear me out, Bow isn’t broken. I don’t think bows need a nerf. If it did no one will pick it up because you already have to worry about stamina management, never mind it’s dmg taking a plunge. This is a PVE game. Nerfing shouldn’t be a discussion. The whole point is trying to kill the monster efficiently and fast while having fun doing it. You want longer hunting runs? Or just want a challenge? I don’t know about you but personally I’ll take the hunter with op weapons to a hunt so I can clear it faster. I need parts, and nerfing is going to effect that. If It starts with one, then another weapon will also get it.
@Phnxkon
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it needs a nerf because?... never understood that in a previous game.
Did they change Temper in Rise? Because in past games it always boosted Bow shots (without a downside, unlike with the three bowguns that would get deviation increases).
@cedricdiasanta9729
3 жыл бұрын
it is seperated now and now called "Felyne Marksman"
Capcom pls gib mighty bow deco
Why the thunder bow Vs Teo in the background footage?
and here i am being a main bow player since mh1... I love making these meta b4 they're meta.
Is Heaven's Glaze better than Rapid Ice Bow in this upgrade?
I called it. As soon as I saw that armor set I knew we entered a new level of power.
I tried building the Narga Pierce Bow set. I think you made a mistake with the charm, so I assumed you mean Pierce Up 2 2-2, but even with that, I don't know how you were able to fit Attack Boost 1.
When using Night Flight, it looked like you had access to Power Coating? Am I missing something? Because it looks like all I have access to is para, poison, and close-range...
@LartariEldra
3 жыл бұрын
Yo @Pasty_Swag ! He's not using Night Flight, he's using the Rakna-Kadaki bow. Yes Night Flight is showed on the screen at 5:36 but he's talking about pierce bows at this moment of the video.
Got a cons 2 2 lvl 2 slots a 1 lvl 1 just before the update just need to switch the waist around lmao
How are you getting the stun damage?
Hi thanks for the guide. Im checking to make a complete set of Pierce bows after upgrade all my Rapid rampage bows after the update. For Fire and Ice i will use Rakna and Kushala from the video. For Thunder, Dragon and Ice you will use PIerce rampage or other bows ? Arko Nulo Dragon, Zinogre and Ludroth seems great but is only Pierce 4, ( 200 raw, 26 water + Water boost II ) same for Zinogre ( 210 raw , 20 Thunder +Thunderboost II or Aquatic species ), and Arko Nulo Dragon ( 200 raw, 20 dragon, 20 affinity + Weakness expoloit or Dragon boost 2 but no Power coating). Seems great in raw/elemental but don know if is worth it Pierce 4 vs Pierce 5. Arko uno Thunder have a lot of Thunder elemenent ( 180 raw, 15 affinity , 29 Thunder +Thunder boost 2 ) and Pierce 5, but no Powercoating.
@alstermaniac
3 жыл бұрын
No matter how good a bow is, it is absolutely unplayable without power coating. The only exception to this rule are monsters that have bizarre and extreme elemental hitzone weaknesses like Brachydios hands from previous games. That being said, raw damage is king currently and much easier to scale, so elemental is looked at as a bonus for the time being so the difference between pierce 4 and pierce 5 is massive considering the MV increase.
@Gonzo_Neo
3 жыл бұрын
@@alstermaniac Nargacuga is meta for pierce raw and don't have power coatings.
How do you get power coating on night flight? I only get close, poison and para
@mania_1018
3 жыл бұрын
You can't put power coating on night flight
So its is possible to use Rapid Rampage Elemental Bows in general for each specific monster? Or is it required to make pierce bows as well?
@Rathadude
3 жыл бұрын
I believe so. I think pierce is theoretically better in certain matchups such as the ones Phemeto mentioned but the rapid version should still work just fine.
@incognitoburrito6417
3 жыл бұрын
Rapid is totally fine. Only one I'd really recommend pierce over rapid is the last boss. Pierce might do more damage but only if every shot hits all the way through the monster. Rapid just seems more reliable.
@alstermaniac
3 жыл бұрын
Rapid is also better if you run wex as pierce doesn't benefit off of it as much because of hitting multiple hit zones
What’s your layered armor set?
Chamaleos spread bow is op, you have to learn to play close but it does so much dmg.
Is there any weapon that can benefit from teo/kush blessing? I try to fit those skill on elemental lbg and it still worse than go for atk7 (or did I do something wrong?). didn't try it with bow yet. but if you don't mention it in the video, I assume it's not even worth cosider?
@1320Battery
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you're better off with other options. There's no decoration for Teo/Kush blessing, and taking four armor pieces just for that one skill just restricts you too much when you still have other skills you need that aren't getting satisfied by those pieces, especially since they don't have great slots.
@pavfeira
3 жыл бұрын
You only need two points for the elemental boost. Four points just gives unrelated bonuses. Plus, Kush has Pierce Up, Teo has Crit Boost and Crit Eye. So it seems like something should be possible there... if the slots aren't a dealbreaker.
@Angel-Amari
3 жыл бұрын
Guy i go to for lbg builds has already made his updated fire lbg that uses 2 piece teo for the bonus, not sure if water/ice would be worth fitting kushala pieces into but it doesnt look like it
Lmao thats so funny. Grab the Horner and force him to play, that's my friends and family fighting for me to play the horn for them
How about latent power 3 instead of stamina surge 3? Its not active all the time BUT when active it's devastating
@SephyClone7
3 жыл бұрын
The stamina surge 3 is crucial for those 30% more recharges per shot, which with the other stacking skills makes it very hard to run out of stamina
@With_Heart_And_Souls
3 жыл бұрын
@@SephyClone7 🤔 with latent 3 i also never run out of stamina and you get 30% crit on top so almost around 100% 🤔 i will test the stamina surge build
I have a con2 1 2 slot is it good?
Somehow I feel that dodgebolt has a longer i frame than the standard dash
@dresean3725
3 жыл бұрын
It does
@SotiCoto
3 жыл бұрын
I can dodgebolt through the Bloodbath Diablos charge. Like literally right through his body without taking damage. I'm not sure if the regular dash could do that. If dodgebolt needs evade extender, then by that logic doesn't the standard dash need evade window?
was the rapid animation skip fixed?
Bowken da Bowken 😏
Even if they patched out the animation cancel, I would still play Bow all day in Rise. I loved it in World but damn, it's amazing in this title. The best it's ever been.
Why the Rampage ugly bow is now better for elem builds, need patch 3.0 for weapong transmog now xD
Could we see more on why we don’t need chit boost or elemental boost
@RaFaPilgrim
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much that “you don’t need” as it is that “you can’t reasonably fit it in”. Between the stamina management, WeakEx nd the shot type up skills, you’ll pretty much have run out of 3/2 slots, sadly. Also, crit boost is really only worth it when you can get above 60% affinity on a weapon, which can only be done on the Narga bow... and then you’ll probably have run out of slots anyways. Also, in regards to Elemental Crit (I assume that’s what you mean when you say elemental boost), it’s really not worth it in this game, since it was nerfed into oblivion.
How does bow damage compare to lbg?
Used bow on the wii u DS and ps4. Monster hunter world bows felt extremely under powered in my opinion compared to most of the other weapons. I Honestly like how the bow is in rise, I actually feel like im doing relatively decent damage. But hey that's my opinion.
@megnugget2631
3 жыл бұрын
Lol bow was broken in world just spam coconuts hope monster walks under it, gets knocked out flinches or just exhausted then ez win with elemental damage
I was a bow main for a bit in world and loved it, just thought it was too easy. I tried it in rise for a bit and thought "lmao this sucks now" I guess I'm stupid
@CrazyA9116
3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@wabbit2099
3 жыл бұрын
You just didn’t use it in the right environment or look up info on KZread. If you are really early game and don’t have a good build the bow can seem weak. But in terms of end game there is no denying the bow is S+ tier.
@alstermaniac
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that makes bow S+ tier is the animation cancel which seems more like a bug rather than intentional because ever since power shot was introduced, there has never really been a mechanic like this. Bow definitely has never been stronger though, (not that it was ever weak), especially with so much easy to access stamina management solutions. And actual bow variety is very decent this game as opposed to some previous titles where like Kelbi bow meta or Teo bow meta was king. Think my only issue is that ele bows are so trumped by raw bows because there is so much raw Dmg support options(but you could say that about all weapons)
@CrazyA9116
3 жыл бұрын
@@alstermaniac that's not true at all, the animation cancel makes them overly broken not S+. If they couldnt anim cancel it would add maybe 30 seconds tops to times which is still much faster than other weapons.
@alstermaniac
3 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyA9116 which is what makes it S+ because S Tier is already a category above every class above everything else, S+ implies that it's above anything else within the highest category
Will you do the same type of video for LBG? Isn’t narga high crit build the meta?
@SephyClone7
3 жыл бұрын
Narga LBG is basically the only choice right now for fast runs unless you're going memes with slicing/sticky But its no where near as powerful as the now right now
@Angel-Amari
3 жыл бұрын
@@SephyClone7 elemental lbg are good too, and the fire one just got an upgrade thanks to teo
@SephyClone7
3 жыл бұрын
@@Angel-Amari im glad elemental lbg has usage again unlike in world/iceborne. Will have to look into giving them a try again
@Angel-Amari
3 жыл бұрын
@@SephyClone7 rathalos is go to for fire, goss was the go to for ice but kush might be an option now, thunder is rajang and water is almudron
@kingcaesar3693
3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a LBG comment, but does anyone know of a good HBG spread build?
So..pierce better than rapid or same?
did element exploit get nerfed or are these options just outshining now?
@Thanksxmen
3 жыл бұрын
@@lued123 Got it, thanks for that explanation.
I just cannot get a pierce charm
Oh okay
Joycon drif has made playing bow or bowgun impossible for me in rise without getting a new one :(
@propheticrain-maker1486
3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Gyroscope aim? Takes a while to get used to but can be a lot more precise than thumbsticks.
@raggedyexynos9487
3 жыл бұрын
I suggest getting an afordable controller if youre playing docked
How do you customize you rampage weapon
@cutiegwen5195
3 жыл бұрын
Go to the smithy and select ramp-up weapons then select your weapon and then choose what rampage skill you like.
No writeup tldr to screenshot 😵
So, I’ve been hearing allot lately that bow is broken? What’s making it so broken? Is it the builds themselves or is it something specifically wrong with the bow?
@stormreaper1859
3 жыл бұрын
The element dmg mod on shots does more then it " says" the calculation should. That combined with how we're naturally stronk, good silkbinds, wpns and some other stuff makes us tip more on the broken side.. personally im fine with it cuz they took away quick shot and i loved that shit
How you guys aim so well...
@sooni-exe
3 жыл бұрын
try using gyroscope
What does he mean by charms with no skills???
isnt it more beneficial to get one point on crit boost instead of 1 point in attack? 30% crit damage seems like alot
@jenova2916
3 жыл бұрын
it isnt +30% Crit damage increase... it is increasing the (already existing +25% of) crit damage to +30%. so +5% more damage compared to normal crits without crit boost! on the other hand i think he doesnt have crit boost jewels yet, as he uses Ballistics in one of his build (instead of crit boost) as stated.
@Senira322
3 жыл бұрын
@@jenova2916 wow i didnt know that! Thank u so much!
So how about that kebli bow, eh Phem?
@zenith2876
3 жыл бұрын
Kelbi bow good now unlike gen u and with decos like quick load swapping threw all the coating is nice for speed kills. And set ups.
For the narga pierce set, how did you fit in the remaining pierce up? The set is missing one 3 slot. Did you swap an armor piece or replace the listed talisman with something better?
Let's chill on all the "broken" talk. This isn't a competitive game. It's about fun. Some weapons may need adjustments to make them more enjoyable. Also even though bow is insane I still never see it used online. Great build info and tons of data for us nerds though. Thanks for the content, my man.
@PiroMunkie
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the monster/my mood. Bow is definitely better solo because you want easy access to the monster's face, but if the monster has several juicy hitzones I may go in with the bow in multiplayer. I think one reason Bow is so uncommon is that it's just one of the most armor-skill dependent weapons in the game, and even more than in World it requires you to make many different weapons for different situations.
Boken?
Never mained a bow, im looking at so many videos an to be honest im F-lost lol i dont seem to be able to drill the combos and don't get the armor needes. Maybe i shouldt play bow😅 i still want to tho🤣
@Momochan144528
3 жыл бұрын
Don't give up! It takes time! I started without any knowledge about bow, skills and armor sets. I just went to watch some builds and make those as my way of learning them and as a base for my own build. And I use the training ground a lot. If it's still not clicking for you, then I guess you can try other weapon🙂
@Phnxkon
3 жыл бұрын
Literally just play with it if you want to learn... guides kill fun!
New bow user here! Any idea how to wirebug out of the way after being attacked with having the bow out so to be able to quickly drink potion?? 🙇♂️
@mekudu-man3804
3 жыл бұрын
Press R + B after getting hit.
@iseanyable2009
3 жыл бұрын
@@mekudu-man3804 alright! thanks man!
i kinda disagree when u use an elemental bowset that crit boost is not needed ? i do allot more dps with critboost 3 on them then without just saying.
This might be obvious, but why not con 5? it is achievable
Hope and Valor not good?
I can't beat that arena 05. Rajang kicks my ass. I gave it up. To hard
@titianarasputin
3 жыл бұрын
i used DB without knowing any of the moves. I looked up one of the switch skills and how to use it, spammed that and beat him pretty easily. it's the one where you stick a bomb to him and it explodes for damage.