MGS2: Sons of Liberty, Substance, HD Edition | Extreme & European Extreme | Full Game Speedrun Guide

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Here is an up-to-date guide for Extreme & European Extreme difficulties for Metal Gear Solid 2.
If you are looking for other difficulties:
Very Easy: • MGS2: Sons of Liberty,...
Normal: • MGS2: Sons of Liberty,...
This involves fast and traditional strategies, but not every possible and fastest strategy. For more tips and strategies, visit the Wiki in the links below.
This guide was made with the understanding one has basic knowledge on game mechanics, general route, etc., as these will not be covered in this video.
This will cover the Not Game Over If Discovered, or NGOID route. For Game Over If Discovered, or GOID, refer to one of these speedruns here for good examples, as only a handful of rooms change:
WR for GOID with Big Boss Rank: • MGS2: Substance | PC |...
SGDQ 2022 run with Big Boss Rank: • Metal Gear Solid 2: So...
This video will cover one wanting to obtain Big Boss Rank (non-lethal) or any rank (lethal/speed). Certain strategies will differ and will be covered in this video.
This is one video edited and stitched together for efficiency, but does a good job of explaining how to do just about everything with button inputs. Demonstrated on the PC version, but most of it applies to HD Edition as well. Most of it applies to PS2 Sons of Liberty also, but there are some instances where it differs (elevator clip vs. swim glitch for example). Clips in this guide will be on European Extreme difficulty being played on the PC version. However, everything can be applied to Extreme difficulty as well, as the main difference is you can take more damage and boss fights are a little more forgiving.
If anybody has questions or feedback, leave a comment or feel free to reach out to me, join the Discord, etc.
Special thanks to bmn for the MGS2 Trainer used in this video for quick resetting or taking an instant death in a room. You can find more of his tools at: mgs.w00ty.com/
Timestamps are below to jump to certain sections:
0:00 Intro & Initial Settings
5:12 Start to Olga
8:50 Olga
12:15 Post-Olga to Engine Room
17:27 Engine Room
21:30 Deck-2
23:15 Guard Rush
33:21 Hold No.1 (With and Without Ladder Glitch)
36:14 Hold No.2
38:12 Hold No.3 (With 2 & 3 Spot Photos)
41:25 Plant Start to Stillman
48:04 Bomb Disposal to Strut C (Before Final Bomb)
1:14:59 Strut C Bomb to Start of Fortune
1:17:54 Fortune
1:22:45 Post Fortune to Fatman
1:27:21 Fatman
1:33:31 Post Fatman to Shell 1 Core, 1F
1:37:34 Shell 1 Core, 1F to Ames
1:39:53 Ames
1:42:01 Shell 1 Exit to Shell 1-2 Connecting Bridge
1:47:20 Shell 1-2 Connecting Bridge Sensors
1:50:01 Harrier
2:01:54 Post Harrier/Perimeter/To Shell 2 Core
2:05:23 Shell 2 Core, 1F to President
2:09:02 Swim to Vamp 1 & Swim Glitch
2:14:27 Vamp 1 (Lethal & Non-Lethal)
2:20:39 Post Vamp 1 & Emma Swimming
2:24:13 Shell 2 Exit to Sniping Section
2:27:42 Sniping Section & Vamp 2 (Lethal & Non-Lethal)
2:40:07 Post Vamp 2 to Arsenal Gear
2:43:06 Arsenal Gear - Jejunum
2:45:10 Arsenal Gear - Ascending Colon
2:46:35 Tengu 1
2:54:54 Tengu 2
2:59:40 MG-RAYs
3:17:20 Torture
3:18:41 Solidus
3:27:52 Closing & Final Thoughts
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  • @ApacheSmash
    @ApacheSmash Жыл бұрын

    Hello it's me ApacheSmash, thank you for keeping my contributions to the Metal Gear Solid 2 route inside this guide. It is true that I did indeed discover that you can turn with the dmic during the Olga cutscene thus facing the direction you will need to move when you leave. I believe that it saves at least almost nearly one frame in total. Back in the day I would watch people speedrun Metal Gear Solid 2 and look on in horror as they entered the Shell 2 Core and would sit lifeless as they skipped the cutscene, over time, with direction and teaching from me eventually implementing that turn became standard. Your guide will ensure that future generations of Metal Gear Solid 2 runners can also save at least almost perhaps one frame. Thanks.

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    Жыл бұрын

    Be sure to follow me on Twitter @ApacheSmash

  • @stevenarmstrong6622

    @stevenarmstrong6622

    7 ай бұрын

    i want to thank you for the at least almost one frame you saved me with this! you brought my gameskill to the next level and big boss rank became a easy task because of it.

  • @KittyMike32202
    @KittyMike32202 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the guide limes i love to practics this game on my off time and this is like a upgrade from your older guide . keep up the good work

  • @ptolemaic7212
    @ptolemaic72125 ай бұрын

    Probably one of the best and most comprehensive guides I've ever seen for speedrunning a game. Especially for a difficulty that is extremely unforgiving. Awesome job

  • @16maze
    @16maze Жыл бұрын

    Funny, I watched the easy guide and now this one today. Good stuff man, I don’t play games anymore but watching someone explain my childhood is fun ha ba ha can’t wait for more.

  • @MODVexMan
    @MODVexMan Жыл бұрын

    long awaited. Well. Worth. The. Wait. Amazing limes.

  • @the21stsergeant
    @the21stsergeant4 ай бұрын

    This is such an excellent guide. Definitely going to study this for my BB attempt as a complete casual.

  • @TheJimboTron
    @TheJimboTron4 ай бұрын

    Great guide, definitely will use for my runs.

  • @maleficmedic
    @maleficmedic Жыл бұрын

    awesome stuff

  • @Saluldin
    @Saluldin Жыл бұрын

    3 and a half hours of MGS2 with the GOAT dlimes13? Say less my guy. 😎 💯

  • @NoName-oy2tk
    @NoName-oy2tk Жыл бұрын

    I just come to watch really. I watch just people play games or speedrun. There is another KZreadr I watch who does generally Resident Evil games(he does play other games, but I think he has explained how the algorithm on KZread sort of can some times pin you into a particular category), which is maybe why he goes to Twitch to play other things. However, I haven’t really watched regular TV or even any streaming services(like Hulu or Netflix) in years. Just generally nothing worth watching from those places. Generally watching KZreadrs play games. Some would wonder why not just play the games myself. Which I do from time to time, but at times just don’t have the ability to do so or just don’t feel like it. I only play when I feel like it. Great stuff just watching.

  • @PlatonicGuy
    @PlatonicGuy Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @Hau5test
    @Hau5test Жыл бұрын

    well damn now I have to start playing it

  • @Hau5test

    @Hau5test

    Жыл бұрын

    took only half a year but I did it. first run below 2 hours - legendary guide. thanks

  • @JMC_90
    @JMC_90 Жыл бұрын

    lets go

  • @namelessxdread
    @namelessxdread Жыл бұрын

    9:51 What is the purpose of lining up against the edge of the door right there during Olga? I ask because I'm planning to de-rust pretty soon and I recall Olga being a major pain in the ass on Extreme until you start getting warmed up better.

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    Жыл бұрын

    For Extreme/Euro Extreme, you want her to see you for a split second then lean (hide). This will ensure she doesn't do any weird movement (or less likely) as she continues to shoot you and hopefully empty her magazine. If you do not stand in this position, she is less likely to empty her magazine and the loop will fail. Alternatively, she could start to come out left and retreat back to the start, getting the cutscene instantly, which is very slow. If you're doing Extreme, you could let her shoot you there and you will not die. Euro Extreme it is a one shot kill, so be careful.

  • @christopherlperezcruz1507
    @christopherlperezcruz1507 Жыл бұрын

    How do you cancel the shot after aiming without weapon swap on PC. I am using DS4 and have tried super soft release but he will still shoot. When holding up enemies they will automatically go into alert if you unequip. Thanks.

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe it's L3, but I have that function disabled on my end so I don't accidently do it in a run. Pressure sensitivity will not work on PC or a DS4.

  • @MickSaladin
    @MickSaladin8 ай бұрын

    if emma gets seen during sniping section does that alert count against you for big boss?

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    No that does not count.

  • @MickSaladin

    @MickSaladin

    8 ай бұрын

    thank god google is very unclear on this issue @@dlimes13

  • @MickSaladin
    @MickSaladin8 ай бұрын

    second question: i keep failing the door tengu skip what are the exact instructions, throw stun, back against door, let go, press R1 to FPV punch punch kick exit FPV? i seem to get through 40% an dfail 60% (on master collection if that matters)

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    Lean back against door then press R1 to FPV (don't let go of the lean against the door before entering FPV). PPK, let go mid-way through the K or thereabouts. If you have a Tengu near by it'll auto-aim to them causing you to PPK at an angle which will fail.

  • @MickSaladin

    @MickSaladin

    8 ай бұрын

    okay it was the not letting go mid way on the K that was ruining it get it 95% of the time now, times i got through before were just lucky about letting go on the K by mistake it seems haha @@dlimes13

  • @Eli8581-
    @Eli8581-7 ай бұрын

    When you're using the restart area command via the trainer, is it acting like a save state where you can repeat an area over and over again without it affecting your end-game stats?

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    7 ай бұрын

    No all the stats will carry-over. It's just resetting the room as if you left and came back in, but clearing any Alert/Evasion/Caution states as well.

  • @ComfortZoneComic
    @ComfortZoneComic6 ай бұрын

    im just gonna click sub and not say more for now....while im not learning a single thing due to being busy....much love and respect 07 semper fi

  • @namelessxdread
    @namelessxdread Жыл бұрын

    How do you pull off those i-frames during the Harrier fight? Whenever I do it it's like Raiden doesn't go back against the wall after firing. He fires to the right but then stays in that position and usually just fires again. I've tried practicing the timing but for some reason the way the wall goes down diagonally into the stairs it doesn't work correctly. Is there another way to dodge the missile barrage?

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch my inputs. I let go of the fire button until Raiden is about to return to his original position. Continually firing or holding the fire button will not work. Additionally, if you are not on the corner like I am, you will slowly go down the stairs.

  • @namelessxdread

    @namelessxdread

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dlimes13 Yeah, I was looking at the controller. Would it help to hold maybe down-left instead of down so that there isn't a chance of sliding down the stairs? I just wish there was a way to practice that corner without the Harrier there.

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    Жыл бұрын

    Or use D-Pad instead of analog. But down left at that corner should ensure it.

  • @MickSaladin
    @MickSaladin8 ай бұрын

    okay day 3 another question lol but does using the sword at the end against solidus count for the '700 shots' thing? i beta the rays and the game over screen on solidus says i've done about 640 shots just praying the sword doesnt add to that and its a gun only thing? surely they dont count sword swings?? lol thanks again for all the help so far! liked and subbed!

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    Nah sword shouldn't count.

  • @MickSaladin

    @MickSaladin

    8 ай бұрын

    okay now to get good against solidus and the platinum trophy is mine thanks again fella! @@dlimes13

  • @ntonytakeshi5569
    @ntonytakeshi55698 ай бұрын

    Hi, I hope you respond. Does the "Alert Transitions" counts? (if you get spotted in the middle of a loading area). Thanks

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    If you hear the buzzer for the Alert sound then yes. If you don't hear that sound you're good.

  • @ntonytakeshi5569

    @ntonytakeshi5569

    8 ай бұрын

    I've got Big Boss rank thanks to your guide. I play MGS2 since my childhood but never at this pro level. I learned some tricks, this game never stops to surprise me. And not less important, you're a beast! Thanks to you and your dedication.

  • @johncarteriii2039
    @johncarteriii2039 Жыл бұрын

    Pog

  • @k.m0710
    @k.m0710 Жыл бұрын

    やはりRAY戦が特に見事であり、大変参考になる。 RAY戦において、オリジナルであるAnonymityhopeを上回っている 現在唯一のMGS2プレイヤーと言えるだろう。 状況に応じて「RAYの左右どちらの膝を撃つべきか」を正しく理解している プレイヤーは現時点で驚くほど少ない。

  • @KankriV
    @KankriV2 ай бұрын

    I have the HD collection for my Xbox360, I haven't played it yet but do you have any suggestions or videos for me to learn the buttons and controls better, as someone with memory issues plus the fact I don't play my console often I struggle to learn and remember controller stuff. And sadly I don't have the funds to pay for it all again on Steam or anything haha. Amazing video by the way, MGS2 is my all-time favorite metal gear game over any of the others. Anyone who thinks otherwise can bite me lmao

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    2 ай бұрын

    If you're using an Xbox controller and are used to a PlayStation controller like I am, I use what's called a GIMX adapter or Brook adapter so I can use my DualShock 4 on an Xbox. I can't stand Xbox controllers personally. If it's just learning the controls in general, just have to play with it and get used to it.

  • @sulos4646
    @sulos46463 ай бұрын

    Is it possible to do tengu one glitchless?

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. Just harder on the higher difficulties. Mostly just hiding in a corner towards the end of the room and using M9 + Coolant.

  • @stephenwoods74
    @stephenwoods748 ай бұрын

    Are you gonna do this on the master collection?

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    The guide applies to Master Collection so no need for a separate guide. Everything works the same.

  • @stephenwoods74

    @stephenwoods74

    8 ай бұрын

    Realllllllyyyyyy struggling with the rays lol. I have watched your guide over and over again. I just can't seem to get the loop locked down

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    Just keep at it. Break it up into sections. Like get though the B's without issues, then focus on the C's, etc. Takes a lot of practice.

  • @stephenwoods74

    @stephenwoods74

    8 ай бұрын

    @dlimes13 OK mate thanks. Played this game soo many times and just don't get fed up with it lol. Are you going to be doing a new WR run. Noticed this youtuber mentioned he got it a month ago. Not blowing smoke up your a** but I am always rooting for you lol

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    8 ай бұрын

    Haha was it JosephJoestar316? It's free to get back I just have to do it. But I also have around 1,900 runs to do and another 2,000 runs just to upload to KZread. Always grinding.

  • @namelessxdread
    @namelessxdread7 ай бұрын

    43:27 That guard doesn't seem to see you on regular Extreme

  • @dlimes13

    @dlimes13

    7 ай бұрын

    Yup that's correct. One of a number of small differences between regular Extreme and Euro. On regular Ex I'd just get in front of the box instead.

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