Knives and Pens was also my catalyst of becoming emo. I was well on the way but it accelerated the process

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah i feel the same, i was probably destined for it regardless....

@K2kGaming13

Жыл бұрын

You dont become emo youre born emo.

@hiicupz

Жыл бұрын

@@K2kGaming13 that was the cringiest thing ive read all day, i love you

@chihauhauaddict4405

Жыл бұрын

Same.

@istoleyoureyeliner10

Жыл бұрын

This comment iS MEEEE

The appeal of Nirvana from someone who was a teenager at the time was the energy and emotion. They tapped into the existential angst of late Gen X who were crushed by the weight of expectations of our boomer parents and the constant threat of nuclear annihilation.

@justinhines7705

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jordanharris6563

9 күн бұрын

Exactly. It's not about technical they are. It's about the time they were a band and how they impacted young American that were sick of their boomer parents and fucking sex, drugs and rock n roll. Just like I stopped listening to metallica because I found out about my chemical romance, fall out boy and many many other bands in high school. Their lyrics and music was speaking to me than a song made in the fucking 80s about doing cocaine.

It’s okay to not be a great player if you write great songs. Kurt Cobain was not technically a good guitarist but he wrote and played guitar parts that were perfect in the context of his music. When I played guitar in the ‘90’s I was lucky to be learning in the age of grunge and pop punk which were simple for a beginner. Had I been learning a decade earlier I’d probably have been too intimidated by the solos to even attempt to play popular songs.

@UncleWintersDisdain.

Жыл бұрын

Billy Corgan is a good example of that, too.

@vosoryan

Жыл бұрын

I'd argue that it had more to do with his vocal melodies and vocal tone than his guitar parts. I still don't understand the hype overall though and I wish people would stop acting like he was anything more than a human being just like the rest of us.

@ricequin

Жыл бұрын

@@vosoryan my point is that he played the right guitar parts to complement those vocal melodies. His guitar playing was rudimentary but it fit with the raw nature of the songs. I certainly don’t believe he was anything other than human but he had an extraordinary talent for expressing his human experience with others through music.

@sleepingkittystar9067

Жыл бұрын

I think Kurt was a good guitarist in like the way he thought out of the box, he didn't just use basic chords yknow, on a lot of Nirvana songs you'll hear some dissonance or weird scales that ended up being there by chance bcs he didn't want to just do something basic. I think there's two ways of innovating, knowing enough what you're doing to avoid clichés or not giving a shit enough to avoid clichés

@kyledutton6550

Жыл бұрын

​@@UncleWintersDisdain. Billy Corgan is a pretty good guitar player.

Most guitarists are self taught - and up until recently, we didnt have the internet.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

personally im self taught, i went to lessons for a few weeks but i got so much better once i taught myself

@lueysixty-six7300

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate yeah bro✌️ I would have loved to have gotten lessons, but having to use your initiative, and to get industrious to find ways to keDn... happen, helps you to really take on the responsibility of learning. You know the buck stops with, and if you don't get proactive, creative and tenacious in finding ways tit learn...

@ruthsinghi9755

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate we don't have music classess here 🥲 only youtube vedeo s and most of them are just thumbnail s 🗿

@drummergurl99

Жыл бұрын

Up until recently? I was on ultimate guitar all the time over 10 years ago. That’s how I learned most songs

@kavka_

Жыл бұрын

@@drummergurl99 yeah I was confused by that because I started learning bass nearly 20 years ago and I definitely used the internet lol it was a lawless land, but there were resources

The saltine cracker analogy 💀💀

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

crafting analogies is one of my most refined skills

@chooseyourfate13

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking they’re good but damn they get dry lol

The difference between MGK and Cobain is That Kurt actually wrote great songs.

Although Kurt wasn’t technical with the guitar he was a great song writer. If he was not we wouldn’t sing and listen to his songs and even learn them on guitar still this day . Kurt wanted to write catchy songs and he achieved it .

@erikmolnar6585

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why we aren't rocking Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Yes so much today as well :^)

@FloridaManNapalm

Жыл бұрын

@@erikmolnar6585 King Crimson is better than ELP

@erikmolnar6585

Жыл бұрын

@Billy Napalm I think the Monkee's are better than the Beatles :^) I guess we can agree that opinions are subjective. But I'm sure I agree with you since ELP are a boring experience for me

@claudiasolomon1123

5 ай бұрын

Nonono, Nirvana is terrible because their music isn't complicated. Only complicated music is worthy.

I think people like Juice WRLD and Poorstacy would have been the (much better) face of this weird mainstream returns to alternative like it wasn’t still cool the past decade. They both were working with Travis Barker and slowly bringing pop punk and other guitar genres into their sound. It would have been interesting to see and hear what would’ve come from that

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Mhm, Juice WRLD was actually a big fan of Ronnie Radke. He also like Bullet For My Valentine and Black Veil Brides and stuff

@Barbievel

Жыл бұрын

PoorStacy slaps

"The saltine crackers of music" HOLY FUCK AHAHAHAHA. Absolute pure gold 😂😂

I really hope your channel grows. Love your takes and how you don't take anything too seriously. Good content!

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Thank you bro!

I think what made me in my "emo phase" was (mainly) motionless in white, 2000s nu-metal music, and horror movies, I don't if I grew out of it..... probably not 😂😂😂

The thing he seems to not get is that working to be as skilled as possible at guitar does not diminish your creativity and make you robot without feeling, it gives you a depth of understanding and technical skill to be able to take your creative vision and make it a reality. If he actually used his resources to get lessons from a good teacher and continued workhard at it he could likely become a pretty competent guitarist.

Wow i sure do like to watch the recovering emo

You one of my fave KZreadrs to watch. Glad I found this channel

@FXKNate

11 ай бұрын

thx dude :>

this video randomly came up to me and it's well written and funny in the right moments just *chefs kiss*

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

thanks so much :)

Love FIR!!! You have presented a very interesting argument. Also, your examples made me laugh out loud. :)

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Hey, so glad you’ve been enjoying the content lately

Not the photo of Ashley Purdy at 0:27 😂

Tom Delonge is the best example of being medicore at guitar, while being self-aware about it, and sometimes self deprecating. But I bet you can hear that intro riff to Whats my age again? ...in your YYYEAD right now.

I rarely comment on videos, but I find myself wanting to comment on all of your videos! Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of having a dream about Attack Attack! but, I did see them at warped tour once! Love your content 😊

I am really starting to like this channel more and more, I am lucky I found it Also, I appreciate this video a lot, I feel like a lot of people who try to criticize MGK just say the same thing over and over again, you actually brought up good points (Not an MGK fan, don't get me wrong)

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, i am lucky you're here!

Honestly, I feel like if someone’s dedicated enough they could learn guitar if they wanted to. Tobias Forge learning guitar from listening to vinyls and doing it by ear. I mean, now you’ve got all these accessible things online, tabs/lessons/guides etc.

Let me say, I like your work. I'm old so I'm guessing your 19 or 20 Mas o Menos... and I would have completely agreed with you about Nirvana when I was your age in the 90s. Kurt came off as a crybaby in interviews and his death sucks but I was so happy I wasn't gonna have to hear Unplugged part 2. Because after that damn performance, my best friends played that tape "again and again and again and again!". But I like crap guitar playing, I always have. And I think crap guitar can be miles more enjoyable than incredible talent. For example, Sex Pistols compared to Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Just me personally. I did grow up with documented learning disabilities so I'm not trying to say my opinions are facts. But I enjoy yout work man. Do you have a band? Or videos of you jammin, I see the amp? Would love to hear. Keep up the great work. I've fallen behind since I work many hours, have a mortgage, and old af, etc so your videos are definitely informative to me.

Lmfaooo the “yes I’m gatekeeping FU” & Herman “ I see why ppl hate him now , it makes sense!“ and ur dream 😂... ur funny

Love youre content bro u going places buddy

i’m pretty nirvana neutral, and i think the main reason they’re so hyped up isn’t bc of their music but instead bc they introduced a lot of ppl into alternative music, they also rly got alt music into the main stream (good or bad depending how you look at it) so their legacy is less on quality of sound and more just on their effect

Knives and Pens was released on my 11th birthday, and the first emo song I ever heard

“People are starving” *inserts nikocado* 🤣🤣🤣 dude you kill me, the green day and blink 182 inserts got me also 🤣☠️

It's like MGK never heard & this is showing my age, but it is like he never heard Number Twelve Looks Like You, Dillinger Escape Plan, Psyopus or even Between The Buried and Me. Also Tim Mctague from everybody's favorite Underoath or anybody from Everytime I Die & Norma Jean are great.

binge watching your videos at almost 2am instead of going to sleep lord help me 🥲

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

haha ur awesome!

I love Tim Henson style especially with the nylon strings, i love the sound of the classical almost Spanish style

broooo, the knives and pens music video made me emo too lol and my younger sister 🖤

I wasn't ready for the Ashley Purdy jump scare

Mikasa is probably one of my favorite metal songs of all time.

This man just said fuck KZread’s algorithm imma say what I want

I'm not into emo music I'm a blues rock country folk fan but knives and pins was a good song ran across it years ago. Idk what makes emo music emo though.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

ehhh theres two definitions. theres a style of emo and there's the genre of emo music. it's complicated lol

This is the funniest fucking shit I’ve watched all day 😂 (I am so sorry I’m commenting so much btw lmao)

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

ur good lol! love getting as many comments as possible lol

Well I mean, he did get dissed so hard that he changed music genres.

@barrygaler3701

Жыл бұрын

bro released a rap album after the diss though

Did anyone else have a random obsession with the band "get scared" in the early 2000s

@Lifeonnmarz

Жыл бұрын

god yes. was soooo obsessed

So educational ❤🎉

Man you make me laugh!

I remember my friend showing me the Knives and Pens video when I was 12 and thinking the scene where blood gets poured all over Andy was scary...a few months later I was into it 😂

“No crumbs” 😂

I saw him live.. love him. I don’t know about guitars but he puts on a good show with one.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

thats fair! as long as you like it thats all that matters

i fucking love veil of maya i saw them live a couple years ago with DGD and Polyphia

Saltine crackers are good, but cheese crackers are divine, i would totally eat them every day.

He says Kurt didn’t care… Kurt talked about wanted to learn how to play more technically and even in In Utero stepped out of his comfort zone and started actually playing more advanced songs compared to Nevermind.

i love how u said everything ive wanted to say abt mgk since he made a cover of aerials by soad edit: oh and abt slipknot too lol

watching this video again, convinced me to use my rent money to buy a guitar 🖤

Love the maxmofo cameo

I still remember the moment i wanted to look like Andy, and it was in fact during the knives and pens music video

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

that video was emo propaganda to convert the youth

@NicsIRL

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate They definitely did it right

1:44 smart dude. True facts. ☺️💥💯

"Did you not have the internet?" Depends on how poor his family was. It's possible they couldn't afford the monthly bill for that.

7:22 "let the man rest" 😂

Stank face is pretty universal among musicians of all styles.

MGK is in that group of people who just says a bunch of random shit trying to sound smart, but really when anyone with a brain cell takes the time to listen to what he is saying, they understand, he isn’t saying jack shit.

I just loved every aspect of this video my dude lol knives and pens also turned me emo and I’m still embracing it lol just in more subtler ways like occasionally wearing eyeliner and making the songs lol As a guitar player, my duuuude you had me glued on the screen with all these tidbits man, I absolutely despise the shit MGK says here man. Because I’m self taught and love the darn piece of wood and still to this day, 11 years strong only have an acoustic guitar; I love to play some black dahlia or lamb of god or ABR on it ya know? Fuck MGK and his perspective, Herman god bless him but he’s too nice. Lmao

It's still kinda cool he's bringing back pop punk. It's not good pop punk, but it's something

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

i mean It's better than another mumble rap sound cloud dork!

Kurt never claimed to be SRV...he was a great melody writer, Dave Grohl was a monster on drums and Krist wrote great bass hooks and tags so it came together great. They didn't want Mick Mars playing lead.

From one Recovering Emo to the next, Thank YOU for the line “do you have an opinion on saltine crackers?” 😂😂😂💀

😂🤣 Good Shit Man!! 🤘

Mark Okubo Hype lesgo

My ex cheated on me multiple times and she put the contact names of these people as people in her family on her phone so I wouldn't suspect anything. She also physically and mentally abused and manipulated me constantly. Her all-time favorite artist was MGK and before me she had no idea good music existed and to her MGK was punk before I turned her to other things. All this to say - I realize now who MGK makes music for and why the hell he even has a fan base.. LOL

I don't mind MGK. I can listen to his music. But yea.... I only really even looked into it because of Travis Barker. He makes it worth it.

That saltine cracker comparison was perfect 😂

I fuck with you bro. Keep it up

All that money and he still couldn't look up Lindsey Buckingham playing guitar

I'm 30 and a former hardcore kid. I was watching that same herman li video and the next day I get recommended this. Great vid. Sometimes KZread is cool.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. MGK wouldn’t last 10 seconds in the pit at warped LOL. He can stay on the side and make fun of everyone’s shoes

@josephindorf759

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate the pits at warped were tame lol, try the rockstar mayhem fests from 2011-2014

@Stylish105

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate yeah guy wouldn't last in a chiodos pit. Wall of death would kill him lmao

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

@@josephindorf759 I never went to mayhem unfortunately. But that was kinda my point haha, he couldn’t even last at a warped pit. To be fair when August Burns red played white washed at 2015 warped It got pretty crazy haha. Maybe he could last in a pierce the veil pit lmaoo

@josephindorf759

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate lmao I gotcha now lol. Yeah man imagine him in a knocked loose pit 😂😂😂

1:42 HAHA ME ASF

Can you make that Nirvana video? I would love to hear that!

i felt validated when you said foo fighters is better than nirvana

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

It hurts that people actually think Nirvana is better than Foo Fighters. I understand composition isn’t everything, but Foo Fighters objectively does pretty much everything better.

@CyPhaSaRin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah true that, Kurt's passing was a good thing for music, it's refreshing to know others get it and agree

@champagnesupernova777

Жыл бұрын

Nirvana didn’t have the time to be better than Foo Fighters. Anyone who says Nirvana is better is wrong.

That was cool.

I agree 100%. When I was in middle school (2006-2008). I started listening to BMTH. Pray for plagues is what made me put down guitar after 4 years of playing and start doing vocals. Because I found out I had more passion for vocals than guitar and I didn’t wanna do both because I realized I didn’t really like playing guitar lol. MGK’s music is so fucking lazy and hollow. He’s like 30 something and still has no clue what he wants to be when he grows up.

I really think the grunge scene was much like you explained. Very not caring how they sounded, just the scene in general was relaxed and lazy and thats why people liked it so much! Everytime you hear a song from nirvana live it aounds different and i think that scene in general was there for that. Comparing them to foo fighters also doesnt make sense to me because to me personally foo fighters isnt a grunge bad meaning they obviously put more time, effort and caring into their songs in general. As for MGK he should have atuck with rap 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️

@don_quijote_delamancha

Ай бұрын

That is false. Nirvana is taken too much as a reference for grunge, but there were other bands that, in my opinion, crystallized what grunge is much better. The quintessence of grunge is, in my opinion, Pearl Jam, not Nirvana. Nirvana was the most famous, nothing more. Bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden or Alice in Chains had a very careful and studied sound. And, in fact, Nirvana also took great care of their sound, much more than people think. That Nirvana sounds different in each of their live shows... that happens to all musicians, of all genres.

the jumpscare at 0:25 tho

At least 200k Klicks of The escape the fate (Ronnie era) and falling in reverse, are mine over the last 15 years 🤣🤣

Sponge 'Rotting Pinata' was the best grunge album of the 90s.

Gotta say Alexi Laiho is the best guitarist of our generation bro! RIP WILDCHILD!!!

@madiCOB

Жыл бұрын

He was incredible, such a shame…

@nickschiller1080

Жыл бұрын

@@madiCOB I know it still hurts! RIP WILDCHILD! COBHC FOREVER!

MGK: I’m so f**king good at guitar Kirk Hammett: I’m probably the only person to get away with randomly using a wah pedal

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Lmao one of my favorite guitarists, Misha Mansoor, unbelievably talented, every interview he does he says "i'm not that good to be honest" LOL

@Ob1tuber

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate that’s the same way James (Metallica’s rhythm guitarist) sees everyone in Metallica

Tbf, Dave Grohl (the only one who despite not being able to read sheet music could read guitar and drum tabs and had at least some basic knowledge of music theory) is a really good musician.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

I love Dave Grohl!

My emo pipeline was Busted/McFly -> Green Day -> AFI

Never stop making videos

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully I won’t have to lol

I agree Mark okubo is one of, if not the best guitarist alive. It's a close tie between him and Lee McKinney.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

everyone in the prog metalcore scene is insanely talented haha

😂😂❤ I love your brain….

How could one compare MGK to Kurt Fucking Cobain💀

I know MGK is not that good, but I like his music.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

I respect that. Its like i said with saltine crackers. I dont hate saltine crackers, and i understand why people would eat them. It's not bad, its catchy... its fun. I just don't like his takes, and I feel like hes over hyped mainly.

@wowjack8944

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate Yes, it was a good comparison. I think people (online) sometimes have a hard time dealing with the fact that you can like things that are not good and that it is okay for people to not enjoy what you do enjoy. When you say ''I don't like saltine crackers'' it would be weird if people got really mad and started screaming at you about how you are a hater for not liking them crackers, but when it comes to subjects like these people lose their minds. I think the problem is that people tie a large part of their identity to these subjects, so to them it will feel like you are attacking who they are. Their identity. I think you tried to take this into account by making self-deprecating jokes, but the video still seems to still have hit a nerve with some.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

@@wowjack8944 yeah, I really tried to be charitable to MGK. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, didn’t go for low blows, I acknowledged that even if I think the music sucks doesn’t mean it’s bad. I was more critiquing the use of the word “good” more than anything. And I hear you on the liking bad music thing. Had I known this vid would get so much back lash I would’ve pointed out one of my favorite songs ever “stick stickly” by attack attack… is like the worst song ever. But I love it. Like we can be reasonable out how good things are, regardless if we like it or not. Kinda like shitty pizza, maybe it’s greasy and the dough is mediocre but idk it’s still good to me. I’ve also noticed since no one can actually come at me with rebuttals other than “your a hater blah blah blah” it shows they’re just having an emotional reaction, not a logical one

@wowjack8944

Жыл бұрын

@@FXKNate Yes, I agree with everything you said. I guess the reason they react that way is probably because most people who listen to music don't really know much about music theory (me included), which makes it impossible to argue the objectivity of the quality of the music, so emotional reactions are the only thing they can resort to. Subscribed btw.

@FXKNate

Жыл бұрын

@@wowjack8944 hey thanks for subbing! I also think people are typically used to extremely biased critiques at MGK, so now that I’ve probably given the most honest and nuanced criticism of him (Atleast that I’ve seen) they don’t know how to respond so they get emotional and call me a hater

bro spoke the truth

I feel old i remember when Emo's broke off from Goths to become own alt culture 😢😂

nice to meet someone else who has a similar opinion of Nirvana to me

death inside by MMF sounds crazy lemme pyo

As a nirvana fan yeah I can kinda agree there's better bands like Soundgarden, smashing pumpkins, Alice in chains and the Melvin's

At least it went well for Schecter

1:11 didnt it turn all of us emo? sure as hell did for me

I love how you make the most apt comments. If you really want to loathe mgk check out his cover of SOAD's Ariels 🤢

While Tom DeLonge isnt the best guitarist out there he was the reason i started playing and in my own opinion Tom is millions times better than mgk when blink started they only knew power chords for vereses but tom eventually figured out by dude ranch that he needs to do more than just power chords so he started learning how to play both rhythm and lead parts at the same time on one guitar and back when tom started the internet was only new so there wasn't alot of how to play stuff he instead went to local gigs to watch how guitarists did things and guitar stores to look at different how to play books and just learnt the rest as he went along he always said i never wanted to be the best guitar player i see tge guitar as a tool to creat art but you do need to have enough skill to use that tool to make the art as best as it can be and as interesting as you can make it to the people that will be listening to the art you created I myself am not the best guitarist but i try everyday to learn more and more so i can have new fresh things i can use while playing so i dont get trapped in the box i was trapped in for years where i only knew a handful of techniques that always made what i was playing sound like everything else i was playing Its like he was trying to annoy people that actually put time into the craft of playing just to get a response so he could always be in the media spotlight Then there was that post he made about not doing another as i call it fake pop punk album where he said im not doing another album i want to leave it for awhile so it can give people a chance to miss pop punk me and a bunch of real pop punk bsnds i know all laughed when i shared that post and we all said similar things along the lines of real pop punk has been around since the late 80s with bad religion, the offspring and early 90s with Pennywise, nofx, fugazi lagwagon, and then come blink-182 after being formed in 1992 who blew up fast and is one of the first band names people mention when you start talking pop punk all these guys came before you and some are still going si nobody is going to miss your fake heavily auto tuned pop punk when they have real pop punk to listen too and when two or three years in after he released the first album and most people i spoke to recently had completely forgotten about it they all went back to the real pop punk and then tom rejoining blink became huge news and then blink playing at coachella had become a huge topic Then travis twieeting new album will be out before the tour starts which he tweeted yesterday Australia time for me became huge I feel like mgk said okay i lost the battle i started with Marshall and im going to be hated in the hip-hop genre so im just going to pick up guitar again not bother to learn properly make a crap album but get travis barker and a bunch if other well known musicians on the album to try to stay in the spotlight and then started fights with bands etc to continue to stay in the spotlight

I'm a reformed djent kid but I'm giving you a sub because your points are on point as fuck and you're funny (pls recover periphery hasn't been good in years and Spencer is gày)

Nate Saltine crackers are my fav snack ima have to ask you to retract your audacity

I seriously believe if MGK didn’t have Travis Barker as a drummer then he wouldn’t have had AS MUCH attention as an artist

Completely agree on Nirvana. Same as the Beatles. For someone that is old enough to remember when the 'grunge era' occurred it is good to see someone younger agree with that. It is so weird to see the music I grew up on, that made me a reject, be such a huge deal now.

Kurt cobain used some really odd chord progressions and vocal Melodie’s.

the last good album veil of maya made was eclipse, fight me