Just a note about the measurements - the labeling on this system seems to have carried over for a previous export. The suede pad and resonance frequency graphs are NOT with EQ as indicated by the labeling. The graph after that WITH EQ has EQ applied.

@mini-337

8 ай бұрын

Hey resolve at 5:58 I think you can just show one channel. I think it currently looks too cluttered.

I couldn't agree more about Meze's ergonomics. I got to test the Elite and the LCD-5 in the same day, and the Meze made the Audeze feel like it was designed by the Spanish inquisition.

@RESURRECT2

5 күн бұрын

I don't understand your comparison. Which is better?

Best review so far on this headphone. IMO you are one of the few KZread reviewers you accurately detects and appreciates bass impact.

aha Andrew's smiling

@anatol1204

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the RAW !!❤

@BassDad8

8 ай бұрын

Need teeth!

@oneeyeop-en6720

8 ай бұрын

Clearly some ai fake. Resolve is never smiling

It's fitting that this is Meze's best headphone to date and this is also you best review to date.

It would be very interesting testing the II with the original Empyrean ear pads, very nice review!!

Given that this is a demo unit, I'm curious if this will be representative of other production units. Could be a good candidate for a follow-up video on unit variation. You're welcome to snag the one I ordered for it!

What a happy lil guy

YAY!!! Raw + Compensated… my life is complete, I can die happy now.

Not only they build the best built headphone but they went one step forward & designed one of the best protective & small case to go with it too. Now that's attention to fkin detail (pun intended) 👏 Not to mention the easily driveable too 👏

Thanks for the look at Empyrean 2! When will you check out HE-1000 Stealth? 🤔

Okay Resolve, as one of the folks that gave you a hard time on your review of the first Empyreans I think I like this review. As a result, two bottles for you. All my headphones and gear are gone though.

Any comments regarding stage depth? My understanding also is that they lack a bit on dynamics (macro and micro)?

Have you tried these with the full thickness leather pads? They seem to help with the 6k peak.

I'm saving up for the ZMF Atrium Open, but now I need to listen to these before I decide.

@amaya897

8 ай бұрын

Very different headphones, ZMF is about Tuning not about in your face technicalities. Definitely demo both

@soulfulfool

7 ай бұрын

ZMF all day anyday

I have tested this at a local shop. Everything about these headphones were very impressive. If anyone is looking to buy something in this price range I would highly recommend the E2. It’s very very very strong in every possible criteria I can think of for a headphone, build, sound, comfort, all 10/10 in my opinion.

You guys should review the Topping Professional E2x2! It's an audio interface with a supposedly really good headphone out, and would love to hear your thoughts on it!

Could you a "Best of 2023" or something? I just got to know your channel and I'm a bit lost in which videos to watch since I would like to watch a overall analysis throughout the best headsets you tested this year.

How are the mids on this? Compared to something like zmf atrium

@resolve. Thanks for your review and PEQ settings. I only have one question for you and I hope you will take the time to answer it. While filling in your PEQ settings in Roon I noticed a dip in the graph between 40 and 80 Hz !!! Is that correct? Can you explain to me why you chose for this option? Cheers Fonz

I actually like how you started calling it calibrated

Would be interesting to see OG vs 2 on a graph

Anyone know how these compare to the ZMF Atriums?

Your friend Zeos also likes the hybrid pads

Could I drive this using Chord Mojo?

Nice..Andrew please make Abyss Diana MR..❤

Kinda v-shape based of FR. But that excessive air of OG is probably balanced out by elevated treble. So it may have less shimmer but more intense (Hifiman-ish) treble presentation? Btw Thanks for bringing RAW FR back

can you please compare it to hifiman He `1000v?

That sounds perfect I went from an HD 58x to an aria stealth and I think this might be my final one. Plus I'm a sucker for that aesthetic.

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

8 ай бұрын

Your final one? Buahahaha. Good joke, Mike. In this hobby, there is no such thing! 😅

@bigmike4133

8 ай бұрын

@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST fair enough I hope it's my last one for quite a while then

What are some appropriate dac and amp (combinations) to drive this with? It was mentioned that a 3k setup wasn’t necessary for these headphones.

@TheHEADPHONEShow

6 ай бұрын

You can run it from just about anything. So a basic Atom stack would be just fine. My test equipment is the vioelectric hpa v550 and matrix x sabre pro, but by no means is that necessary.

Waiting for this to get a cooler color variant like the first Empyrean had. I want the copper grill back or something else unique.

Hi thanks for video, i am so hyped. Is possible compare MEZE EMPYREAN 2 and hifiman arya organic or is other league? Thanks for answer.

@diana73654

7 ай бұрын

You will not get the answer yet , i think, just because this hp is not yet on the market. ;)

@bezchlebalukas1779

5 ай бұрын

I am deffinetly not pro but had a honor to try Meze empyrean 2 and hifiman arya organic and i think they are on same level but both sound deffinetly different. Organic sounds much more open, bright, uncouth and vocals sounds like they are comming from full body of converter on the other side meze are much more controled, vocals sounds much cleaner to me they were to separately, they are wide but doesnt sound like open atlest to me it sound much more open then organic @@diana73654

Andrew, like you I'm sensitive to treble peaks - the operative word being "peak", since trebly headphones don't bother me when they're reasonably balanced across that frequency spectrum. But I'd love to know why 6K peaks bother you? My Beyer Amiron Home has a sharp peak between 6K and 10K that is deceptive because warmth in the lower spectrum seems to complement this. However, any high-pitched instruments (or vocals) sound thin, brittle, sharp as soon as they ascend to the 6K-10K region; they basically change in character. I notice this with piano in particular, as well as massed strings in orchestral music. (I still like the Amiron and listen to it regularly, but my Hifiman Ananda (original) is far better for acoustic music.

How do these compare with the Arya Organic?

@KaneAmaroq

8 ай бұрын

Resolve puts all his measurements online, to compare them yourself.

I have HE1000se. It's perfect with the ONLY minor nitpick being that it could use a tiny bit more dynamics/slam. I'm curious if switching to E2, what I would gain and give up. I'd think I'd give up some clarity, soundstage, and timbre.....but I'd gain more base presence and slam. I think HE1000se (new stealth version) is probably closer to perfect than this E2 is.

Thanks for this Andrew, much appreciated. Shame no mention of detail retrieval or resolution.

Is there a more honest place to deal with than headphones online ?

"V-shaped 800s with Audeze LCD-2 capabilities" lol I bought a used HD800(og not 800s) and lately I have been swapping between my LCD-2 and LCD-2 Classic running them off of my RME ADI-2. I really don't want to drop $3,000 on headphones but its soooo tempting now.

I'd love a revisit of the Elites with the (kinda) new angled suede pads. They totally transform the headphone.

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

Protoss????

@0rogontorogon

8 ай бұрын

@@ResolveReviews well, statistically speaking, 2/3 of people recognizing the picture are offended. Just like with Empyrean 1 fr graphs :)

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

@@0rogontorogon Actually my ZvP is pretty good these days. I'm far less offended by your picture than I may have been in the past haha.

@0rogontorogon

8 ай бұрын

​@@ResolveReviews Mine is tragic, sadly. During my offrace adventures I've grown to particularly dislike the guys turtling while massing carriers. The strategic equivalent of watching paint dry.

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

@@0rogontorogon Agreed! Although my style is particularly horrific for protoss players to deal with too. So I'm sorry in advance if I hit you on ladder haha.

Funny, I own 1266, utopia 22, susvara, caldera and elite. Elite gets used 60% of the time. I have watched this fellow for over a year and one thing is clear. His sound profile preferences are so so different than than mine. given the performance and build of the elites I consider them a bargain. You will find in the small audiophile world that reviewers are all over the place on gear and tend to focus on small stuff that most folks don't care about. Always buy from a place that accepts returns 100% and try for yourself. A lot of times the audiophile world (and other enthusiast endeavors ) tend to be lemmings. Remember the rule: 90% of Nirvana for under $1K, 92% of Nirvana for up to $2K, and 93% of Nirvana for thousands more.

@HyperOpticalSaint

8 ай бұрын

Could it be your other TOTL headphones are just so uncomfortable compare to Elite?(Susvara should be an exception)

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

Did we meet up at a CanJam at one point? I feel like we've had this discussion about the Elite.

@robertnoblitt518

8 ай бұрын

I love my Meze Elite; once bought a Susvara but returned it. I still think I would prefer Elite (which needs no EQ in my opinion) over Empyrean 2.

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

8 ай бұрын

@@ResolveReviewsDang, dude. You have an amazing memory! 😮

@HyperOpticalSaint

8 ай бұрын

@@robertnoblitt518 Not surprising at all, Elite is positioned at higher tier and I think the driver is newer while Empyrean 2 is a re-tuned Empyrean driver.

This looks like a FIXED NO EQ REQUIRED VERSION OF AN LCDX ..with out the 4k drop out ….ammo wrong ??

I don't think I will ever be spending $3000 on headphones but considering their build quality, comfort and the 10 year warranty I think these are the ones I would get if I was spending that kind of money.

@niko1even

8 ай бұрын

The work and engineering that went into this is easily worth the 3000 bucks. It probably has the kind of build quality that lets you know that it feels like 3000 dollars from the moment you first hold it in your hands.

@hartyewh1

8 ай бұрын

I wasn't as impresses with the build as most seem to be. The Elite had some messily machined elements etc and I don't like how it's like spaghetti when picked up from the side.

@venny1232

8 ай бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Which works out roughly the same price when you compare average wages in Australia and the US.

@venny1232

7 ай бұрын

I just realised the pads are not vegan so I retract my initial statement.

@KXP70

6 ай бұрын

@@venny1232 I'm vegan too, so that aspect is a big consideration for me when buying headphones. It can be a bit of a minefield especially as the exact materials aren't always specified. Thankfully some manufactures do clearly list/offer vegan options, which is one of the big reasons I have just purchased a Diana MR from Abyss. From the reviews I have read it suits the sound profile that I am looking for and the vegan model has synthetic suede pads with a cactus leather headband. It competes directly with the Emyprean II at $3000 and also has a 10 year warranty. I can't wait for them to arrive!

Hi! Are Emperyan 2 better over all then the Hifiman Arya Stealth?

@soulfulfool

7 ай бұрын

so many people think that Arya is God of headphones 🤦‍♂ you know what Ananda is better because it cost 350$ and do in 95% the same job

Let's go, don't expect this to come out.

@The-Oreo-Man

8 ай бұрын

I actually didn't expect this to come out like Generally din't 😅

Great review thanks! Flavourtown is bursting with flavour - Flavious Maximus!

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

8 ай бұрын

😅

As my pops used to say looks can be deciving 😂

Why compare the measurements between the elite and the empyrean 2 without comparing it to the original empyrean 1?

@provisionalhypothesis

8 ай бұрын

Probably because he doesn't have it on hand. Currawong did tho

I think at half the price HE1000SE are better deal

@soulfulfool

7 ай бұрын

if you care for sound alone it is better deal no doubt

The low mid hump and the 2K suckout with the hybrid pads is pretty much what I was expecting to be honest. It's very even for a planar, fewer crazy squigglies. The suede pads measurement looks way smoother as expected, less low mids buildup and the suckout is less severe. I can imagine it's better for EQing. I will say it looks like it won't be super challenging to EQ.

@Anomalyn1

8 ай бұрын

How were you " expecting" that?

How would these do with movies and gaming?

@JTB--

Ай бұрын

Get the Senn HD 800s for half the price if Gaming and Movies are top priority. They're very comfortable too

How does it compare to he1000se? A lot of people say they are similar.

@PantsaBear

4 ай бұрын

Which he1000se are people saying its similar to?

Will this be at CanJam Dallas this weekend?

Better than Elite?

For what it's worth I think you look and sound completely normal, you have no problem smiling. Everybody in this world today smiles and talks too much as if they are so important. You are carrying the introvert torch. Do not give in to them.

It's always so much better. Sit tight while I throw my $60,000 collection of headphones that were also "so much better" when I bought them in the trash, and rush out to go buy these.

I will attest that despite the Meze Elite's still rather diminished ear gain region, with the spaciousness and bass extension of the hybrid pads, the excellent distortion performance has measurably allowed it to handle substantial attenuation of the (ultralow distortion) bass bloat and a substantial EQed restoration of the ear gain region with still yet exquisitely low distortion dominated by second-order harmonics likely well below audibility (more details in page 344 post #5,152 of the Head-Fi Meze Elite thread). Otherwise, it is still nice to see Meze finally giving us more ear gain by default. What would be interesting is to see the frequency response after swapping the Elite Hybrid pads into the Empyrean 2.

You have to Keeper it after Review, als new product is the Best 😂

I'd take an HD650 with EQ over Empy, XS over Elite so I'll be very happily surprised if I find this good for the price. 109 was a positive surprise, Liric has it's strenghts so maybe Meze is going places after all.

@pushatsinfrared

8 ай бұрын

I bought a pair of 99 Neos recently, they’re pretty good these days too. They did a silent revision last year which improved the bass shelf and the Neos are much more reasonably priced than the 99 Classics irrespective of this.

@hartyewh1

8 ай бұрын

@@pushatsinfrared Oh, need to re-listen to the Neos then. A more thoughtfull bass is exactly what they needed originally.

@pushatsinfrared

8 ай бұрын

@@hartyewh1 I never tried the originals so can’t comment but give them a try if you get a chance. Still might not be to your taste but it should be an improvement.

Resolve for president

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

8 ай бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas😅

You're comparing against lower tier headphones, HD660s is a 500 dollar headphone and LCD-2 around 700. Why not comparing against headphones in same tier? Like Hifiman HE10000SE or Arya for example?

@venny1232

8 ай бұрын

You misunderstood, he compared them to HD800s not HD660s and he only compared the fact they can take a lot of EQ like the LCD-2 can but did not compare their sound.

@sidesaladaudio

8 ай бұрын

HD800s is around $1400, and LCD-2F is $1000

@soulfulfool

7 ай бұрын

Arya is not even in HEKSE tier

where they get free stuff to review everytime ?

I like headphones sometimes, BUT speakers are so much more genuine how they present sound. Your ear/brain system is never fooled by headphones. Real sounds, really coming from in front of you, good speakers can mimic perfectly; headphones can't. Good speakers sound many times bigger too, with such depth and so much air between instruments. Are headphone people mistly people who don't have speaker based systems? I know headphones have some advantages, like more detail, (a little more anyway), the ability to sidestep room colrations and acoustic issues, and potentially a bit cleaner sound, but those things still don't add up to near as much realism as great speakers can. I guess I don't understand. I just cannot picture anyone preferring headphones.

gimme

can someone provide me a small loan of 2 months rent? 🙂

Its a beautiful headphone but it does look silly when you put it in your head

There's nothing better than a sponsored, mass reviews release before Christmas :). Nothing against you & Meze, but looks suspicious (Joshua, ZMF, DMS all at once).. But I'm still curious how it can compete sound-wise with eg. Susvara.

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

Not sponsored - at least ours wasn't. The reason you're seeing this is because Meze was actually internally aligned on the embargo date and they sent units out over a week in advance, meaning we all had the opportunity to hit the release time. This is how it should be done, and you see it done like this in most other industries.

@radekbaszak7519

8 ай бұрын

@@ResolveReviews OK, I'm buying it, thanks. It just looked strange and sounded like a targeted hype. All the best.

@ResolveReviews

8 ай бұрын

@@radekbaszak7519 well... Don't just buy on account of any one person. Consider a wide range of perspectives. I always recommend being patient to get as much information as possible before pulling the trigger.

They could be the best headphones in existence... but I'm not paying anywhere... NEAR that price without hearing if it is WORTH that price tag. Unfortunately, even though I live in one of the top 10 largest cities in the USA, there is not a place to try these. For this price, I'm not going to just take ANYONE'$ $UBJECTIVE opinion about them. If you want 3k for the SMALLEST OF INCREASES, it is THAT company's responsibility to PROVE to me it is with that. If you do order them, you SHOULD be looking for excuses to send them back. I want to try them, but THEY have the burden of proof here, and my experience is the higher the price the MORE I am disappointed. I'm sure these are no exception. At 3K, they should prove that to you. Until I get a chance to audition in the wild, I would not spend more than 700$

3000$ headphones... ouch!

yea everyone jeez all over about Meze how good it is but later they send it back never thinking about buying it, few months later new headphones come up like Arya Organic and suddenly nobody speaks about Meze 🤣🤣

It's too expensive

There was literally nothing wrong with the original😂

The drop X4 has a better frequency response. It's good enough for most listening. It takes to EQ very well. For under $100 on sale the X4 is all you really need.

@sjqideez6626

8 ай бұрын

You said it perfectly, it’s good enough for you & this X4 is all you really need. But other people have different preferences, budgets, setups, etc

@mini-337

8 ай бұрын

Are you fucking kidding me? People buying empyrean arent gonna buy shitty hifiman budget headphones. By the way, the drop x4 are congested and grainy af. sound is awful.

@jpined14

8 ай бұрын

All you need is some sheet music and an instrument.

@ryanhostudio

8 ай бұрын

imagine buying a 3k headphone and than EQing it

@hartyewh1

8 ай бұрын

I found the X4 to sound really messy and EQ didn't do much to help it. The deeper pads just suck fidelity out imo. They add some fun and space, but definitely not my kind of compromise. 400se I think is noticeably better, Sundara to that, XS to that. I'd rather take an HD280 Pro with EQ over an X4.

Midbass and treble boost and sucked mids and sub bass bleh

@2thousand639

24 күн бұрын

A ton of EQ adjustments were made - but the tonality is acceptable?

graph looks terrible 😂

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, because you listen to music with your eyes, huh?🙄

with the parts that costs around 300 buck, they are selling 10 times more expensive shit. this is a message for everyone. DO NOT buy phones that costs more then 300 us

@brendangood1052

8 ай бұрын

I'd go slightly higher. $500- $600. Much more after that and your buying into hifi waffle

@markovlasic1978

8 ай бұрын

be aware that those reviewers are with afiliate links. headphone companies send them various phones , they measured them, listen to them a few days,send them back. @@brendangood1052