Metal Casting at Home Part 77 Lost PLA/Greensand Casting for the Myfordboy 3D Printer
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Filament 3dprintz.co.uk/collections/pla
Bromsgrove greensand www.artisanfoundry.co.uk/prod...
Investment plaster www.artisanfoundry.co.uk/prod...
This is to be my extruder body to replace the printed one. Extra material was added to the open source Prusa file to allow for machining and shrinkage. Holes were deleted and will be drilled in the casting.
As the pattern has a flat bottom greensand was used for the cope.
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I know I am a deity heathen for not knowing this. But, what was the point of the green sand in this? Why not A) build the ducts into the original plaster mold. Or B) just heat the mold and pour the metal in on top with a retaining wall?
@myfordboy
3 жыл бұрын
It would be easy to add the gate to the plaster mould but my burn out oven is too small to take it. The extra height with the sand gives the metal some pressure to feed the mould as the metal shrinks as it cools.
@edgarryan8423
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@fireworm91
3 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy sorry to ask but how much does it shrink? 1nm every cm? And does it shrink in the same way on all axes? (Xyz)
@myfordboy
3 жыл бұрын
@@fireworm91 I make the pattern 1.5% larger than I want to the finished casting to be to allow for shrinkage. Shrinks in all axis.
@ZorlacSkater
3 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy "It would be easy to add the gate to the plaster mould" What does that mean? What "gate"? Sorry im german. In my understanding a gate is something like a door.
What I like in your videos is the lack of any dumb get on your nerves music, and you don't have to say a word. Just watching you do your thing is easy enough to understand everything. Kudos sir!
@BigFiveJack
5 жыл бұрын
No distracting music IS A GREAT CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE MADE SIR!!!
@liveuntetheredmusepodcast4832
5 жыл бұрын
Well said! I hate those videos with music too!
@francoisbasquin6974
5 жыл бұрын
I'd add more: it's a pleasure to hear the tweeting of European birds. I miss it a lot!
@danyf3116
5 жыл бұрын
Edward Hamilton Actually, for me, just watching the video made it enough for me to understand what he did. Add to that my Army days as a mechanic , so it might help.
@twolaneblacktop5903
5 жыл бұрын
You can all turn the volume off if you find music... just an idea
Have seen others cast pieces like yours but none have the quality you produce, well done sir, from a person who worked 25 years in a Grey Iron foundry !
Another 15 minutes of my life that wasn't wasted. I could watch this stuff for ever. I'm thinkin a Netflix special. Ha, Thanks again Myfordboy.
@wd9102
3 жыл бұрын
If you watch it forever then your your time will be wasted. Now go and do yourself a nice part. That would be the best outcome. Greetings.
@namehere674
3 жыл бұрын
@@wd9102 this was made 2 years ago
It's a pleasure to learn from someone who has, through many years of trial and error, just about perfected this art. I really appreciate you putting these videos online. A wealth of information here.
what i am impressed is by how the pla melted without leaving any residue behind! great stuff mate well done
@alejandromechina5959
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the same. It Was 500 celcius organic molecules probably vaporize into CO2 vapor at those temps.
Not only hugely informative but a Zen like experience to watch... I feel better already!
Certainly the most intelligent and elegant home casting technique I've seen on this site. Thank you and Bravo!
This is seriously such a good video. It's so rare to see such a detailed process clearly, understandably, and performed by someone who knows exactly what they're doing. Great job my friend; very well made video and casting.
That's awesome. It's really cool to see you learning new and mixing in old technologies.
Thank you for sharing. I found this very interesting and educational. In my years of manufacturing I'm sure I've purchased millions of alum casted parts, but never saw how they were made. Now being retired I found your video fun to watch.
That’s a beautiful part! It looks like it was die cast in a factory, not done in a home foundry. Nice work!
Simply amazing! What you do is a lost art. I had the most enjoyable time in Jr. High shop class with our foundry back in 1979. Too bad they don't teach this kind of art anymore in schools.
@pandaking6247
2 жыл бұрын
It's more than an art, it's an invaluable skill with a huge amount of potential applications even today
Amazing. Thank you so much for your ongoing posts like this. It really inspires me to keep going on my own stuff as well. keep up the great work!
Ok, this is reallly clever. I like how you blend the 2 techniques.
Such an inspiring thing to watch! I agree with the others, I appreciate the no-frills approach to the video presentation (no music). It's strangely calming but also exciting to watch, and informative. I absolutely LOVE how your box frames, work surface and tools all look like they're re-purposed parts of an old desk! I really want to make a little foundry for myself, now!
You sir are one of the masters of this craft. I love to watch a master at work.
@DanielSMatthews
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, it is crazy that we pay people so much money to play golf when watching this sort of thing is so much more interesting.
@ScorpioDB
6 жыл бұрын
We dont pay them anything :D Advertising pays them so much money... Just like youtubers. Number of viewers is the issue, unfortunately :(
@DanielSMatthews
6 жыл бұрын
So you know any well paid youtube golfers? 😏 If you want to get rich on KZread fast you have to be the sort of creep that laughs at the bodies of suicide victims.
@ScorpioDB
6 жыл бұрын
youtube golfers :DDDD I mean golfers (or footballers, hockey players, formula racers....) are rich because of the advertising. If there was no advertising that people see while watching the match, there would be no rich golfers, footballers, etc, etc, because there would be no other way to generate that much money :D Same with youtubers. If there was no advertising, there would be no motivation to pay them :D So thats why i made such a comparison. Anyways... Channels like this one and others showing craftsmanship are much more interesting indeed. Sadly, we are minority :(
@BillSikes.
6 жыл бұрын
Mature Patriot I agree, he's a Master of a Multitude of Skills.!
Fascinating! I subscribed for more of the same! Easy watching, no crappy music, just a good engineer at work!
I have been day dreaming about doing this since i first got my printer
@owow8899
3 жыл бұрын
I'm dreaming but I don't have 3d printer👨🌾
@wesleywhittington8499
3 жыл бұрын
Big stacked forges. I ordered one.
VERY impressive work, very elegant and accurate. Definitely a master at work.
@lisaerrichiello5339
5 жыл бұрын
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@deathtoisrael8422
4 жыл бұрын
When you do it, you do it right.
Very clever! And the quality of the cast is awesome!
@Fahnder99
6 жыл бұрын
I was surprised..! But removal of the excess is missing.
The definition of that part was outstanding, you could even see the grooves from the printing! Very interesting technique to learn, thank you for the knowledge you put out there good sir :).
Amazing work! Imagine how you could easily fit cooling tubes inside an engine or something. I would love to see some more complicated parts!
Exceptional and inspiring mate, thank you. I just stumbled onto your channel and am really pleased that I did. The brain is spinning now with thoughts of what I could make with my little old 3D Printer and your metal working techniques. Thank you so very much, great work and truly inspirational, thank you
Unbelieveable! The most clean and perfect lost PLA I have seen in youtube! God Bless you and your knowledge
Very neatly done, sir. I have been 50 years in the metals craft and i have only just started 3d printing. It is quite exciting and you have shown me a fine example of a home process to add to my workshop. Thank you.
This appears to be a mix between sand and investment casting. Thank you for making this video, it's very informative.
I admire people like you. Smart, resourceful, very well skilled.
Really nice of you to share the process in such detail. Great quality.
I am amazed by the finish quality of that part it is as good as a multi million dollar casting plant thumbs up
10:12 The most beautiful part...
Wow, amazing videos, also great quality finished. I’ve learned and enjoy much watching your videos. Keep up the great work. Thanks from Florida👍
That is one nice looking part mate. Thank you for your time and labor doing these video's. learn a lot watching you work. Over the years you have made some very nice projects, and again thank you.
This is rather clever. With investing casting generally the metal if forced into the investment mold. Either by spinning the mold while casting or sucked in using a vacuum. Placing the open top investment into the drag allows air to escape up through the sand in the cope.
@watchtheskies
5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why he didn't put a vent channel in there somewhere
@luisderivas6005
5 жыл бұрын
@@watchtheskies The part volume doesn't rise into the cope (top of mold); it is essentially flat at that interface, save the gentle slope to the downsprue. This, gives little place for air to 'catch' and displace the molten metal. Most castings displace a significant volume of sand in the cope (for symmetric parts, as an example), that may trap air, hence the need for a vent.
You made my day.. I was struggling to cast a 1/6 scale gun breech.. Many failures. Thanks. Attila
@Szymon_PN
3 жыл бұрын
Did filament form came out after heat it? I want to cast same and it interest to me did it possible
Amazing work, you have true incredible skills and ingenuity!
Awesome work. Loved the simplicity to obtain such complexity.
Beautiful how the filament lines are visible in the aluminium :)
Part turned out great!
You have golden hands! I admire your videos and your works!
You are quite skilled at displaying the methods that can be used to make castings!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
I cant believe how relaxing it was watching this!
@Eden_M
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking 👍
I watched this video and then, to my horror, realised that I wasn't subscribed to your channel! Needless to say, I sorted that out quickly! As others have said, your videos are very well done and the natural soundtrack is all it needs.
this is the best video i have ever seen for teaching casting with best details with easy tools ... you are master
Thank you for this video, looks like a fantastic quality of part! Incredible for at home!
This opens up a whole new realm of desktop manufacturing possibilities. I always thought you needed wax-like material to be able to burn it out and some companies are charging ridiculous amounts for SLA wax-like resins. Assumptions challenged and thank you, sir!
@250tegra
6 жыл бұрын
You are so right! We used to carve stuff in (then new) polystyrene foam when I was an engineering student in the '60s. The metal was mostly 'pistominium' from scrap pistons. Very rough and ready indeed! Health & safety would not have approved of our furnace, never mind the working practices.
@leonardpearlman4017
5 жыл бұрын
@@250tegra That sounds great! I've heard that in "lost foam" casting the hot metal just does the burnout itself. This makes a lot of sense, since there is plenty of styrofoam around, and it's easy to work with the hot wire saw, hot tools and so on. This seems like it would be just the thing for a certain size and not too much detail.
Very interesting, thankyou for sharing.
Brilliant clip, brilliant work. Thanks for your efforts.
Found your blog, answers A LOT of my questions. Wow. What a treasure trove! Stuff you don't learn in school and plans that are not found anywhere else. Thank yo!
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
Franklin Moore Glad you like it.
Ye good olde table leg tamper, love it!
It is important to note two things: One must use the correct plaster, and heat it slowly in order to avoid cracking.
Wow thats impressive quality. Nice work
Never get bored of your videos. Thank you
I’m showing the guys at my local foundry this technique tomorrow! Brilliant. And what a high quality casting.
Never seen this done before with the combination of the plaster and green sand. Hope to some day start learning to do this - I've started to love working with metals.
Very much enjoyed your video. I too appreciate the simple live audio and especially appreciate that you held the camera still. Good content, good video. Excellent. Thanks.
Greetings from Canada. My I add my congratulations for your fine and inspiring work.
Gorgeous work as always! Looks like it might be time for a new quenching bucket, though... ;)
So this is really a hybrid investment/sandcast technique. Great job. I use a little soapy water or hairspray on the pattern - helps the bubbles lift away.
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
I have heard of using the soapy water, I'll try that next time.
This video is a gem. It's concise and all the important bits are covered. Thanks!
I thought I had seen awesome until this video. Thanks for taking the time to create and share it.
Sir, it a well explained video. Please, could you tell me what machine did you use for vibration to make the air bubbles go out.
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
It was an orbital sander.
@westpearson6759
4 жыл бұрын
Great work! What software did you use to design your plug mold for 3-d printing?
In the post-apocalyptic world to come, I'm definitely looking you up!
@treasurecoastanglers1003
4 жыл бұрын
I notice your comment was 1 year ago. Looks like you were not too far off. But who knew It'd be toilet paper lol
oh, thats perfect sand mold Sir, very satisfied to see !
What an amazing combination of investment and sand casting all in one
Thank you for that video. I learned a lot. 2 questions: 1. Could you leave the plaster away and sand form it right the way? 2. Does the first electric oven melt the aluminum too? I reeeaally appreciate your work in silence - by the way!
@myfordboy
4 жыл бұрын
Due to the shape this particular one could not be removed from a sand casting mould hence this method. The oven will melt aluminium and brass too.
@stephencram3940
4 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy thanks great video this answered my question to
yesssss! No porn-music! Thank you so much! And I will try myself, what you did here! thanks for posting! This investment how you call it is a game changer!
@Szymon_PN
3 жыл бұрын
Did you try yet? Can you share with me a result of it?
Best demonstration video ever. Exactly what was needed, no more no less!
Excellat creation. Idea enthusiasm focus and patient execution is appreciated
Investment plaster is so weird; somehow "able to withstand the temperatures of molten aluminum" and "water soluble" seem contradictory.
brilliant! i've been wondering about "lost pla" for a long time, I can't believe how clean it looked after the burn-out. Did you use and especially low infill? i love to 3D print and i'm building my own foundry right now (incidentally love your videos on burners - i came up with a simple design for a central heating nozzle burner and in researching some porblems with it, I saw you'd allready done it, but better!, I'm hoping to branch out from just Painting Videos to other interesting things i do too. You're an inspiration! thank you so much for making all these videos. o/
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
I used 10% infill. If you want to use waste oil you need a siphon nozzle. Central heating one would be OK for a pumped kerosene burner.
@JulianMakes
5 жыл бұрын
ahh 10% yes thank you. I'm using diesel at the mo (with the siphon nozzle) it seems to work well, but i've not added the forced air part though. It's early days yet, thank you for your reply!
Thankyou and well done, you know your stuff, lovely to watch such craft
Best I've seen so far, nice work!
What is the purpose of the well in the cope?
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
It's not a good idea to pour directly into a mould. if it were a greensand one the metal could damage the mould. The well traps any debris in the metal.
@N1FNE
6 жыл бұрын
Any greensand that fell down the cope would fall into the well, not out horizontally into the mould. (one hopes.)
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
Still would not work.
@bryanelliott2107
5 жыл бұрын
It's more about the fluid hammer than the heat (the mold's already been proven at close to aluminum's melting point in the oven, and should be fully dry). Aluminum isn't dense for a metal, but it's denser than water - so when it drops into the molding height, it _hits_, causing the potential for erosion and/or cracking. The well prevents damage to the mold by absorbing that impact, and limits the inclusion of eroded sand into the investment.
@garywheeler7039
5 жыл бұрын
There is also a recent idea that ideally hot metal should come in from the bottom. This almost achieves that idea but keeps a more standard method of working. Doesn't require an opening in the bottom that would have to be cut either.
Interesting! Never seen it done like that.
@vinnycordeiro
6 жыл бұрын
This is a variation of the millennia old lost wax casting technique, used in the Antiquity usually to cast statues.
I devised this process for soluble filament but I have a toddler and limitations atm; however, I'm glad I saw this for my future projects. You are a scientist and a scholar.
You have hands down the best channel for casting on youtube. Cheers!
Your wife already know that you stole her tupperware and ruin it...? Beyond the joke an excelent work, very clever.
Excellent cast resolution! Very impressed
You just learn so much with this guy, amazing stuff, all that firing of the plaster and its still soluble.
hello Sir how many hours you left the plaster mold in the oven .?
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
It was in the oven about 2 1/2 hours from cold. When I checked it after that time all the PLA had gone so i knew it was ok to cast.
@boudchichemohammed9066
6 жыл бұрын
thanks master i hop all the best for you your friend from morocco
7:11 - I've never seen that done before. What does the well do?
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
Pouring directly into the mould is not a good idea. The well traps any debris. If it were a full greensand mould it would also prevent the force of the metal damaging it.
Thats an excellent piece. Look at those edges!
I got a 3D printer. Now the only thing I miss is a metal melting oven... and a backyard. I enjoyed sir.
MFB I notice you only have a feeder hole but not a vent for exiting gasses or putting various wire punctures around the mold also for venting the gasses I have seen just about all your videos and am extremely impressed and I know the way you do it does give you excellent success rates I am just curious to why you dont use them a lot of the other foundry / metal casting folk all use them IE Olfoundryman Brian Oltrogge swdweeb sandrammer Love the idea of the investment for a smoother end product between the 3d printing and investment you have got the process down pat Tony From Western Australia
@danharold3087
6 жыл бұрын
Any layer lines or other artifacts from the 3D printing will show up in the cast aluminum. That kinda negates the good finish. The real advantage is you can cast parts without worrying about draft and undercuts.
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
I have not found it necessary to add vent holes in any castings. The sand porosity takes care of venting.
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
I am going to machine some surfaces for a top finish and fit to matching parts. The part was printed with a 0.2mm layer height. it could have been printed finer if i needed a better finish.
@MoondyneJoe
6 жыл бұрын
Dom Reale SV Seeker ( Doug Jackson ) has done a lot of Sodium Silicate casting of stuff for their 74 foot sailing Junk kzread.info/head/PL8E01EB3F0312D0A3very interesting work But it seams like you cant use the sand a second time though I love your term For MFB Silent Bob LOL I think he has Just been given a MEME ! What do you think MFB? Tony from Western Australia
@myfordboy
6 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with the silent comment.
amateur question: could you not have done this without the sand? seems like you could have just poured the metal into a plaster mold... no?
@myfordboy
5 жыл бұрын
The sand could be replaced with all plaster mould without any problem. My oven would not allow for this and i have plenty of greensand. . You do need the height of the feeder for aluminium to give "head" to the metal.
@ray-charc3131
5 жыл бұрын
How to let the air out when molten metal fills into the moid?
@chrisvickery445
3 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy Can you explain a little further? I was wondering why your feeder attaches from the side. I've done some aluminium casting at university and with blacksmithing groups. They all had some problems with gas as well as the aluminium sometimes cooling before it got to the edges of the mould. Each time the feeders went straight into the mould void. If we'd had larger and taller feeders that would have held the heat better and the weight of the metal in the taller feeder pushes more metal into the mould form? Is that what you've done here? Great video and cast by the way.
@myfordboy
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvickery445 You need the extra height and volume of metal to feed the mould as the metal cools and shrinks. It's bad practice to pour directly into the mould. The well I make slows the flow and catches any debris.
Superb work. Great results. Thanks for videoing and sharing.
was looking forward to the machining part...beautiful casting!
dang I need to make some parts....if I only had a 3d printer....&furnace...and green sand....and....
@Kamal_AL-Hinai
5 жыл бұрын
Skill
@bernardnyacuma9858
5 жыл бұрын
and some will.....huh?
@MCsempfi
5 жыл бұрын
buy an Anet A8 3d printer. youll have to build it, but I built mine and had it printing in 12 hours. its only 150$ USD
@domentrontelj2148
4 жыл бұрын
@@MCsempfi or spent 50 bucks more and buy ender 3 pro...man the creality one is much better than this Anet A8 thing
@onepunman2744
4 жыл бұрын
@@domentrontelj2148 the standard ender 3 is good enough and it's only 10 dollars more than the anet
Greensand: Im pretty sure the guy who named it was Daltonic.
@arielignacio9234
3 жыл бұрын
jajajaja
@olavodias
3 жыл бұрын
I am colorblind (aka Daltonic) and it looks very green to me hahaha
Wonderful. I have used investment plaster to do lost wax casting in bronze in a centrifuge , to make masters in a figurine factory. Brought back many memories.
That was awesome! I didn't know that plaster could be used that way! Thank you!
Hey! That wasn't green sand, it was clearly red. Haha ;-) Thank you for the great video.
@andriyshapovalov8886
4 жыл бұрын
It was definitely green,man, gotta get that eye exam ;)
@Vinwelder
4 жыл бұрын
@@andriyshapovalov8886 What are you talking about m Are you color blind? It is brownish redish in color, just like most "greensand" is nowadays. Greensand isn't always green, especially nowadays when used for casting since other stuff is added to it...
@philliptillery9760
4 жыл бұрын
Vinwelder he was being facetious....
Show the machining of the part you just made
@JamesDoylesGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Yeap Indiana, thats exactly what I was thinking lol
@BenWillBarrows
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, please do.
This is awesome. We've tested making vacuum formed moulds from 3D printed parts using the FormBox but this is on another level!
One of my preferred videos on KZread!
Yeah, my investment also solubilize every time I do.
I swear you don't see the face I. The video, but the legs and hands look like Michael Meyers.
Great video. I'm collecting some of the tools to start casting aluminum myself. This is extremely helpful.
Really enjoyed your video. I remember during the late 80's when i was in Junior high we had shop class and learned woodworking, welding etc. This was demonstrated to us by our instructor but I never tried it. I have Adult ADHD (ADHD) back then, but that was when it wasn't even heard of. The point is I could not focus on things as paying attention to the instructor describing the technique or the type of sand. So I was apprehensive. Now that I self-manage my ADHD I look back and see how I did not understand, but yet when I was focused on something I liked, my mind went wild with it. Now I have embraced my learning condition. Not that this means anything other than the point that I remember this being done. To do this at home though. I would need a refresher and where to get the materials. Finally, with all the different casitng methods I have seen people demonstrating and talking about bubbles in their molds. I am thinking to myself. "Why are they not using a massaging vibrator to get the bubbles out. And you sir are the first to do that. Yay! Again, Great video.