Tbh it's very nice to see videos about exotic characters like Meta Knight or other mid tier everybody forgot !

@thanks721

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like meta knight is rarely used because of his hard to master game play. If you play meta knight well he can become a quick finishing machine.

@ezrampearce1401

4 жыл бұрын

Excuse me? Mid tier? *um, sir, this isn't Brawl... So? *well, not everyone has the same opinion of the masked swordsman that you have... Fight me. (Vicious battle) Come back when you can put up a fight.

yoooo that me at the beginning

You don't have to follow DI with Meta Knight's ladder combos, especially when the opponent begins to tumble. The only type of DI'ing involved is when the opponent suddenly shifts to the opposite side of where you're laddering them to, but by that point, they're usually at up b kill range in all my experience and from MK gameplay that I've seen, so that info in the video is false in my opinion. Other than that, the most complex thing about ladders are whether you should short hop or not, and I think you showed that off well for people wanting to pick up the character and practice ladders. I hope that in the future, you also talk about Bridge Combos, which involve the use of Dair. We don't get to see many Meta Knight guides so I hope you guys can keep this up! ♡ Edit: One more thing. Up tilt > Up air isn't true unless you're up tilting at 0%, but you're not gonna get a ladder at that low a percent and knockback. If you get an up tilt, you can certainly set up for one, but characters like, say, Luigi, Yoshi, etc. can nair and possibly break your up air attempt after up tilt. Another edit, I apologize. You didn't cover Ladder Resets, where is when you begin a Ladder Combo and fast fall to the ground while hitting another Up air, and then hopping back up to continue the ladder after reseting your jumps. It's useful for stages with platforms or if you think the extra height is enough for shuttle loop to kill. Oh, and you didn't talk about how Up air > Nado is a true, but tight combo ender if you if you wanna kill but not suffer the consequences of up b'ing offstage and sd'ing as a result. I know this is a beginner guide and that I'm being too nitpicky, I apologize.

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

can you message me in the discord? I actually haven't been able to figure out bridge combos at all, I know they exist and I think you use dair and finish with tornado or bair? Id like to talk more

@novelgiani

4 жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash Sure! Discord name is MKGiani #7099! The MKCord is also always open, as I'm am active there the majority of the time!

@ezrampearce1401

4 жыл бұрын

I might get Discord just because of this thread. Been an MK main since Brawl. What they did to him is really a shame, especially with the derpy new Final Smash. Would like to learn more as I mainly have a strategic button-mashing technique (I know, stupid, but I generally get second to my Toon Link master friend), and would totally love to develop in my strategies and tactics. I love the series (still hold Brawl as my fave) and want to get better. At this point, I would be totally crushed by any experienced player (especially a heavy damage heavy knockback fighter). People like you two could really advance my game skill. I just have to get a system to play any smash game on first... and a Discord... I just recently got a phone, so I've got some ground to cover. It's encouraging to see cultured, strategic players out there. Keep up the good work. I would love to see some character-specific strategy videos. Congratulations. You just got a young Star Knight subscriber.

@sauceman5337

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Giani, I'm picking up meta knight and also wanna ask some questions about ladder and bridge combos, can I add u on discord?

@brucemeier8624

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you do have to follow di with MK’s combos, if you just keep going in one direction, and they go the other way, you will miss, also, tumble makes them escape if they di, they will drift too far and get out. But it’s completely true when not in tumble(even if they sdi), but tumble is not terrible, because if your opp is in tumble you will be able to connect nado. A good guideline for this is if the last 2 u airs in the combo connect, nado will be true Ladders work even with di out there is also a third option other than sh or fh, you can also idj, which is important sometimes when you need to get in between sh and fh height. U tilt > u air doesn’t even work at 0%, it most of the time just doesn’t work period, when it does work, it works around 20-40%

I really like using Meta Knight but I hate how his hitboxes are so miserable, I can't even sometimes connect down air and back air sometimes whiff.

@Erix963

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@blizzaricity7521

4 жыл бұрын

His hit boxes are so distorted sometimes.

@iancampbell4225

4 жыл бұрын

you get set into freefall after you do Side b upwards

@wookiecommander4554

3 жыл бұрын

A great drinking game for meta knight mains is drinking every time you see the sparks of the near miss hitbox

been playing MK since day one, he needs more love

@MrJhwan

4 жыл бұрын

Avakrr I was playing MK from the start but honestly I’ve dropped him in favor of my secondary dark pit. I love MK but he feels like discount smash 4 meta with a worse neutral and combo combo game. Mad respect for you keeping with him though. I really hope he gets buffs. If he does I’ll probably try my lot with him again.

@thewizward8471

4 жыл бұрын

MK is always who I return to in my times of character crisis, but most of the time he feels like dash attack the character

@K1ng.lizalde

4 жыл бұрын

Avakrr same used him in brawl (didn’t know he was broken I wasn’t into competitive and didn’t really notice his Op-ness) and will keep on using him, his nice recovery and his jumps help me go back on stage every time and don’t get punished when I go deep for edge guarding

@TheWeedIsland

4 жыл бұрын

yeah more love... from the developers

@CGFillertext

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve mained Meta Knight since Brawl. but even though he’s nowhere as good as then and his hitboxes kinda suck now, I still main him out of respect

I always had trohble with these, but fast falling made it easier for me

I’ve always wanted to learn this character but there was no good guides on him. The next guide that would help me a lot would be a guide on his neutral. I hope the meta on this character gets pushed to the max!

@mms7328

4 жыл бұрын

just jab my friend

@1archmage

4 жыл бұрын

Sick thanks

@Glacey

4 жыл бұрын

hopefully in the future i'll have more streamlined resources for people like you. makes me sad cause ik how you feel from when i first picked up mk in smash 4 years ago

@mms7328

4 жыл бұрын

if u want to know how to play mk neutral it like how bayo plays her neutral. ur job is to move around and pressure the opponent with movement like pretending to walk away then punishing them, overshooting, taking advantage of stage control, and just general walking. Then u want to punish them with a combo move like dash attack, dtilt, grab, or jab for early tech chases. The main ways ur getting kills is either ladders or edgeguarding. Also why i said just use jab because jab is broken on mk because it completely safe on some char shield, set-ups up well into tech chasing, can set-up edgeguard, catches jumps and landing it just the end all be all

@1archmage

4 жыл бұрын

Wow that was really helpful thanks

I genuinely did not know you could just hold down jump for these. Thanks, you just made my life a little bit easier.

Good job covering all the variables and small but useful tips in this video. This is great actually and I have a friend interested in Meta Knight so I’ll show him.

Great video hope to see others with the same level of quality. Meta knight has always been a character I’ve wanted to secondary but I never knew how to do much with him so it’s great that you’re making guides for the character.

Bruh just omg 🤦‍♂️. I have played many characters and loved meta knight but just couldn't figure out how to do this combo. Come now I'm back into the game and suddenly this guide pointed out this auto jump.... I didn't even know this existed I'm blown away thank you I will put down my cast for a while. Thank you 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

@kingyayofficial3290

Жыл бұрын

does it work

Yessss I've been waiting for this. Thanks for making it!!!

Thanks so much! Metaknight is starting to make so much more sense now

This is very well done! It reminds me of the intricacies of a 10-hit combo video Rishi did a while back. Really makes you appreciate how much goes into something that looks so simple(or sometimes not) at a first glance. Keep them coming!

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great feedback 👍

No wonder I couldn't do this normally! Thanks for the info!

As a MK main I appreciate how this underrated character is finally receiving more attention and some good videos. Btw you should check abadango's guide it can help you get more info, its on youtube

@DaPoptartLord

4 жыл бұрын

Ese Chepe abadango is the best meta knight player

@DaPoptartLord

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely check out his guide like you said

Best ladder combo guide ever. The 45 degree and what percents to do it really helped.

Nice guide dude, very in depth and very good tips as well.

Oh my gosh I have waited for years to have this guide

"if meta knights eye level is with the opponents eye level" Laughs in Piranha Plant

I’m so thankful for this guide

I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with Meta Knight and learn some new things like always. This looks very cool and I'm going to try to master this one day.

Great guide and FIRE new intro ;)!

Good video my man, imma start working on my MK.

this video came way sooner then i expected

Thank you so much this will really help out a lot!

I was curious, thanks for explaining

Love the new style

Dude this helped me so much and it’s really easy that’s to you cause I never knew there where different hit boxxes in his dash attack and that’s what I was doing wrong the whole time

1:02 I seriously had 0 idea about this and it changed alot for me

I'm making a metaknight montage and found this helpful. Thanks

Nice vid bro!! Next you should do neutral air to back air from bowser

This is awesome as always! I would love to see a peach video :)

the best dash attack to get is tipper dash attack because the other dash attacks get more heavily influced by di making it harder to get the first up air

Really nice guide, I am really suprised you started with ladders tbh. One thing you forgot to mention are ladder resets. Dont know if you didnt know about resets or if you just wanted to put them into another vid. Keep it up 😁

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

im thinking im gunna do a second guide talking about them, cause I know that if you get crossed up its also possible to fix that too if you are ready for it, that's more advanced tho than this id say, I also didn't cover anything with starting or getting around platforms

LETS GO BABY I GOT IT THANK YOU SO MUCH

@MetaOfSmash

Жыл бұрын

Let’s gooooo

Meta Knight is just Kirby's excuse of letting off his rage. Edit: Why do edits exist?

Meta Knight mains: I feel rewarded for putting up all my time and effort into these ladder combos. Next smash game: replaces current up air with Star Allies up air. But in all honesty, I don't care if Meta Knight is the worst or best character in the game. I just want to see his moves align more with his canon moveset. The canon moveset has a projectile, a low-lag side-b, and a counter instead of a teleport. Might I mention that his canon up-b is like Brawl's?

I would have liked to see something for fair 1 as a ladder starter but great video. Would love to see one for MKs bridge combos

Down throw does work for starting ladded if they di in fullhop up air If they di away dash forward shorthop up air, you can also get a forbidden reset if they do di away

Personally I like to do this combo with Tap Jump on, but that's because I use Tap Jump since Brawl, basically 10 years. That's also the reason why I don't play certain characters like Yoshi.

@epistarter1136

4 жыл бұрын

This is a dumb question sorry but would tap jump for meta be pressing y/x multiple times instead of holding it?

@yusukeurameshi8503

3 жыл бұрын

@@epistarter1136 it's when you tap the stick to jump

Nice video but you really should have mentionned the sweetspot on the first hit of shuttle loop because it helps a lot when you want to kill without platforms extensions which is important because the ladder isnt safe on hit most of the time if it doesnt kill. (to get sweetspot upB 1 you need to be close horizontally to your opponent and around the same height so its usually just one double jump in and upb, this kills MUCH better than an additionnal dj uair->upb)

If anyone wants to practice using fast fall for meta knight ladder combos, just go to training and make your cpu donkey Kong. Put him at 20 % and practice your ladder. You’ll have to fast fall to complete the combo by using this.

Thank. Meta knight is my main 😁

Mained meta knight since brawl and have never found another character just as fun and fast I don’t care about if he’s good or bad any character can be good if the player is good

I’m not even planning on picking up meta knight really I just think he’s fun but this is a pretty useful video

@MetaOfSmash

2 жыл бұрын

He’s actually hype. I wish more people played him

@insertnamehere259

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash me too

This was a really good start, i hope you go deep about meta knight's setups in the future. Also, does anyone know the music used in this video?

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

the music was a trap beat, ill have to look it up, but I cut it up all over the place cause it really was a weird song and only had some good parts

Thank you, subbed and liked. Another thing: Can you tell me the inputs at the beginning with a Pro Controller?

That's cool

I just did this in a smash tournament in university to win the match, felt really good

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

That's amazing bro! Congrats on the win!

@Bangke55555

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, i appreciate it

Yeeeeaah I think I'll just stick with dash attack to up-b thank you very much.

👏 thank u

Okay, so meta knight is a good character and I main him. I do agree that his timing for the combos is very hard to learn. I’ve been playing him since Brawl and had to learn how to play a whole new character. If you do decide to play him, I suggest you do training a lot to get the timing right. Meta knight is a fun character, but very hard to use.

I’m practicing now but I have a hard time connecting up tilts. Wish me luck :)

So do you keep holding down the jump button for auto jump while doing the fast fall or do you need to let go?

My boy

How would you perform a fast fall in the middle of the ladder combo?

Question. On the fast fall do you need to let go of jump or just keep holding it?

Nice

nice

I've been maining him since the first day of brawl and smash 4, but I always struggle with this combo. I always end up with forward air after 2 or 3 up airs. I dont know in which direction I have to put my stick. This is really frustating. Any tips plz?

I wish you talked about how to even practice the combo, which is the hardest part

When you fast fall do you let go of jump?

Any prefered grip/control changes you guys have to make this easier? Doing y+a for jump attacking.

The part I’m bad at is the fast fall up air because after a few hits I miss cause I ether don’t do it in time or I do something else

The secret is out bonk_MK

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

👀

do you need the controller that youre using or does this still work with a pro controller

rly enjoyed the video, i watched apa's guide yesterday he also went very indepth, maybe look at his video and learn some things that you can present aswell?

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

I just got off a call with a mk player and we have a crap ton of great information coming or soon!

@ItSaHeAdEr

4 жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash sounds good! rly looking forward for the upcoming content then! HYPE

Does anyone have any tips for doing the fast falls i all ways mess them up

Can you make a video that helps me with Lucas’s dair loops?

After the first two up airs when you fast fall you can go to the ground and get a full combo. Btw you can also finish with make or neutral b if you are far off the stage.

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

Join the server let's talk about this further. Im gunna be doing an extensions guide in the future

Brawl is coming back

it gets 5 times more complex when talking ab extensions too

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

Join the discord let's talk about all that too. That's gunna be a future video but i need some help 👀?

I recently get used so much to Up-/Down Air combos with him. Honestly the pure Up Air into Shuttle Loop combo is too niche and unreliable while dragging off stage and finish with nair, fair or tornado feel significantly more consistent.

Does this still work as of 7.0? I'm trying to pull it off but maybe I'm just bad

Isn't there a variation of this where you carry your opponent off stage with U-airs and D-airs, finishing with neutral-B?

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

spoiler alert 👀 that video is coming soon. Those are known as bridge combos

Man no wonder people don’t play him he actually requires skill and effort😭 I’m a hero main just trying pick up a secondary against my bad matchups. I’m used to killing people at 30 and using my large hit boxes and disjoints to do massive damage! This guy is the complete opposite I actually gotta put in work with him

How long does it take to learn the combo?

Wait a fuckim minute, Up air ladders exist. *Prepares controller* Za warudo...

Thanks so much. But I would like to point out that shuttle loop has like the worst aerial drift in the game so if you use it off stage you will die. No question. That is why the tornado finisher is so important. Because up special does not really kill and if it does not you die.

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

I'm going to add that in a future guide with extensions

@cameroncurtis5114

4 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh. You are amazing. The fact that I'm actualy heard by someone is amazing. I'm the best meta knight in Utah and still only 120th. It's nice for mk to get some love. This brings me great joy.

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

Cameron Curtis join the discordd dude. Let's talk. I'm defs not a pro mk player so i could use some help 👍

Been practicing attack cancel on handheld while smoking cigs ... came back in and tried in on the GameCube controller ... I feel as if I just forgot how to play the game 🤦‍♂️

Can you make a vid (nail the trick) about jigglypuff? Plz

They should honestly put some sort of limit on grabs cuz that shit is broken as fuck

@MetaOfSmash

Жыл бұрын

Cancel grabs

@Reaper-xm3rp

Жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash I shouldn’t have to cancel a move that’s unblock-able over and over and over lol I know how to cancel it, its just that grabbing is such a take over move that it should have some sort of punishment or limit if that’s all your do for 3-5 moves in a row. Canceling isn’t hard, but this game is a combo game, not a grabbing game. Nice try tho 👍

FIrst of all great video. I'm planning to purchase Nintendo Switch and SSBU soon and therefore I don't have any experience with the adjusted mechanics or the heavily nerfed Meta Knight since I've only played Brawl for 5 years. But with this I would be able to execute the ladder combo more quickly. Controller cam and everything else was pretty helpful. But I just can't understand how I am supposed to fast fall while holding the jump button. I understand that in order to avoid buffering you must hold the control stick upwards(in order to jump) but doesn't fast falling require you to tilt the control stick downwards for at least a moment? Then how am I supposed to hold the control stick upwards when I have to fast fall in order to adjust my position to the 45 degree line???

@fallingsky7330

4 жыл бұрын

이민재 you assign the jump option to another button (like x, L, ZL or any other confortable option for you.)

@user-by9ks6nc9t

2 жыл бұрын

@@fallingsky7330 oh Thank you I never knew that ssbu allowed me to assign commands to certain buttons I'm gonna try it out now lol

@user-by9ks6nc9t

2 жыл бұрын

@@fallingsky7330 Am I supposed to input fastfall while still maintaining my hold of the jump button?

Bro you completely forgot about the other possible finishers to his ladder combos.. sometimes neutral b or nair are much more optimal to go for at th end of the ladder

Not it is the Meta of knight channel

Every time I try this combo I’m near the top and a fair comes out sooooooo sadddddd

@PiegiXD_2319

3 жыл бұрын

It happens to me too… Sadness.

Being laddered to death and being able to do almost nothing about it physically hurts

man i just want a meta knight tech combo

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

Tech combo you say?

@beeffilledshark1714

4 жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash a tiny morsel of a tech video sir

@MetaOfSmash

4 жыл бұрын

I got something kinda cool i could show you guys actually 👀 keep an eye out for it!

Does the auto jump mechanic still work ?

@MetaOfSmash

Жыл бұрын

Yes you need to do one double jump though first. If you just full hop and hold it down, it won’t work

@regi9192

6 ай бұрын

Idj?​@@MetaOfSmash

What happen to shadows?

Hey, do you still respond to comments? Because I’m curious on wether or not holding the jump button is optimal, because I recive better results by timing it

@MetaOfSmash

2 жыл бұрын

It is definitely better to time it but you just need to practice it more and it’s another input to manage. But yes both ways are viable

@YourMom-wi5to

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetaOfSmash alright thanks! As an ex Ice climbers main I’m used to handling multiple inputs lol

Dude these would be so cool if it were true

Meta knight secondary hmmmm and what's the song?????????

4Algo

whens the ridley shit dropping

"Ban Meta Knight."

To bad Abadango doesn't use him to his full potential.

@brucemeier8624

3 жыл бұрын

Aba Isn’t even the best MK, BONK! is

@mandalorianhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucemeier8624 what?

man i suck at this

holding jump doesnt do anything at all for me