I am protestant n I will really like to learn more from u

Hey dr Bird, another great addition to the series. I’d certainly be happy to add that shiny new book to my MTh thesis’ bibliography

@markjacobson2885

2 жыл бұрын

… my thesis which focuses on the self understanding/Christology of Mark’s trial in particular… And I live down the street in mount waverley… About as subtly unsubtle as I can manage at this point so I’ll leave it at that

Is there any difference in the book about the monoteism of Richard Bauckham or continue the same idea?

Will Dr. Andrei A. Orlov come to the Program someday ?

@earlychristianhistorywithm8684

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to!

In Mark 13:14-19 it has the destruction of the Temple followed immediately by "days of distress" which then mercifully get "cut short" (v. 20). Then "in those days, following that distress" there are signs in the sky and then "At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds" (v. 26). These events are all in an immediate sequence, with constant emphasis on it all happening "at that time" and immediately after the Temple's fall. Is this in your opinion evidence that Mark 13 has the final apocalypse happening just after the predicted destruction of the Temple. If so, wouldn't this indicate a failed eschatonic prophecy or was there never really an estimated time for the apocalypse? I've heard some people suggest that the word ‘generation’ genea could be translated as ‘nation’ or ‘race’ rather than ‘generation’. But there is only one other occurrence in the gospels where this could be the reading-in Luke 16.8. Such a view also proposes that, in these verses, we have a confused mixture of predictions about the near and the distant future, which suggests Jesus didn’t really know what he was talking about, or the disciples didn’t, or the gospel writers didn’t-or all three. More seriously, it has made not a few scholars conclude that Jesus thought his return would be within a generation, and that he was clearly wrong-he was a failed apocalyptic prophet, and the writers of the NT tried (unsuccessfully) to cover up the fact. Any help would be much appreciated. bible.markedward.red/p/the-imminent-end-in-new-testament-and.html#paul historyforatheists.com/2018/12/jesus-apocalyptic-prophet/

Great series. Thanks! Does anyone argue that the author of Revelation depended on Enoch?

@earlychristianhistorywithm8684

2 жыл бұрын

Some people do argue that!

Hey Dr Bird, had any issues offloading that spare book? Personally I’m happy to help you bear that burden. Also, anywhere I could read more on your opinion of Jesus’ ‘appointment’ as vice regent as hinted at during the trial etc? Very interested to hear you elaborate.

Monotheism is a term that should be abandoned in favor henotheism or monolatry. Also, it's not like folks walked around with a copy of Enoch or Daniel in their back pocket to quote. Son of Man and other concepts were drawn from the apocalyptic milieu.

@earlychristianhistorywithm8684

2 жыл бұрын

Peter, more on monotheism to come in future episodes.