Mesa had that guttural grunt. Brutal. EVH has the glassy modern attack. Another flavor of brutal.

@greham

Жыл бұрын

Guttural is definitively the right keyword here. Reminds me of the Savage 120 in the character.

@mikeg6666

Жыл бұрын

Perfect description!🤘

@jav6665

Жыл бұрын

Together they would be amazing

@thegoodfoke3606

9 ай бұрын

is it me or the badlander sounds like a boosted krank revolution?

Love this new series. Having the opportunity to have a dedicated video from a professional? This is just another level of greatness.

The Mesa has more grind to it which is crazy awesome! The 5150 has a lot more gain to it. For me the go to amp for Lead guitar is the 5150. For Rhythm is going to the Badlander for the gritty rectifier distortion tones 💀

Not a massive tone shift between them and once the TS-808 was engaged I'd be lying by saying I could distinguish who's who. Great video series!

@Sadix99

Жыл бұрын

that's because 2 amps on one same will sound very similar... want a massive change ? same amp, different cabinet (speaker).

@6695John13

Жыл бұрын

@@Sadix99 That's right, I never understood why people get so obsessed about amps since the cabinet makes for about 70% of the sound. You see so many different videos comparing amps and pedals and far less about cabs.

@pauld1568

2 ай бұрын

Yeah just get a Harley Benton cab loaded with DV77’s and a decent amp and you are slaying!!😁

That Mesa was crushing! Really thick sounding. For the same price, I'd go Badlander every day between those two.

@mikeg6666

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@mikeg6666

Жыл бұрын

@vagabondlars Yeah that Badlander is nasty!🤘

@0megalul309

Жыл бұрын

esp with the evh now using even thinner and thinner pcb's.

The Badlander is the one I would want just sounds more like what I would want

That EVH is basically "instant meshuggah" I love it! Badlander sounds thick and perfect for boosting, while the IIIs doesn't need one IMO.

@AlexH8280

Жыл бұрын

Eh, they benefit from a Tubescreamer being on for sure. I remember I used mine for rhythms on a track, and forgotten I'd turned my TS9 off, and when I listened back, I was like "There's something underwhelming about this..." It was lacking that bite that OD pedals give. Had to re-do the tracks.

@plumbummusic2051

11 ай бұрын

@@Nick-rf5we that wasn't actually what I meant to say with my comment, but I'll tell you this: Marten Hagström said he tracked Immutable using the preamp or a 100w EVH III into a mesa roadster power amp driving EVH cabs. So I wasn't too far off with my statement.

OLA PLEASE RESPONG! Put your questions in the comment section!

Awesome! Excellent! Thanks! I have no other words to describe how grateful I am! This answers my question in full! Please continue with the hashtag, that's a great idea! And continue working on the channel, I love what you are doing!

The Badlander is just such a classic sound. It may come and go in and out of fashion from time to time, but it will be around forever. As great as the EVH sounds, I'm not sure you could say the same.

@ryanshook8284

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes we could say the same.

@brandonbryson3317

Жыл бұрын

Considering how long the 5150 has been around…you can definitely say the same.

@n1ckn4m3zz4

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I don't get this comment... The 5150 and its variations have been widely popular for a loooong time. So yes, you could say the same very easily

@Aggrovious

Жыл бұрын

The Badlander is currently a more vintage sound vs the 5150 that is more modern. I get what you're saying. However, the 5150 will be around to stay maybe even more than the Badlander.

@ryanshook8284

Жыл бұрын

@@Aggrovious Agreed

I actually prefer the Mesa Boogie, however slightly. They're both dope, but the palm-muted chugs sound better on the Badlander. The 5150 just sounds a little brittle to me when chugging. I'd like to try panning one of each to each side - they probably sound great together.

Nice comparison. I own a 5150 IIIS and a Tube Screamer in front of the third channel isn’t really necessary even with the gain below 12 o‘clock. The third channel has more than enough gain stages and diode clipping. For the Badlander it makes sense to get rid of some of the bassy flubbyness. The second channel of the Stealth is really what distinguishes it from the basic 5150 III, since it’s first gain stage is the first triode of the third channel with a different coupling cap and voltage dividers following.

I'd like to hear both simultaneously on a track, that'd be a SERIOUSLY thick sound

@BeanSniffles

Жыл бұрын

I use a Badlander in a stereo setup with a Victory Super Kraken and it's thick as hell.

@MrHaggyy

Жыл бұрын

Tremonti does use pairs of amp. Last time i saw a stage it was a Dual Rectifier and a Diezel. Parkway Drive does use the 5150 for their base sound. But they highly modify the amp befor they capture it with the Kemper, and sadly they don't tell people what they do by now.

Mesa Badlander was 🔥🔥🔥 found the high end had more bite and the overall notes more attack.

I have a Badlander 100 and it’s super percussive. I love it. And it takes boost very well.

I always love that Rectifier sound. But the attack on that EVH really hits hard for the modern feel.

Literally have been researching this for the past week. Talk about a big coincidence! But I'm set on buying the Badlander. To me it seems it has a better low end sound. The EVH sounds a little thin. Thank you for this though! Love the new playlist idea!

I've never liked dual or triple rec's. Owned each twice. Other than the old tremoverb dual that's much tighter and more Master of Puppets-ish. (Never owned only played) The badlander seems to have nailed what i had always hoped the rectifier metal tone would be

Both sound good but I like the mesa,just a bit brighter to my ears.

My ears like the MESA here, good demo Ola!

Definitely two different amps but I would take the EVH every time 🤘🏼 Thr Badlander needs pedals, the EVH doesn’t need anything, like Ola said.. it’s a complete package.

The new series is of to a good start! great video

Great new series! Love it! Got an 5150III 50W Version and for rythms i use the blue channel. Just increase the gain until it becomes chunky (in my case around 11 o clock) and then Kick a TS9 with Drive at 0 and volume fully open in front of it. Adjust the TS9 tone knob up to your taste and Enjoy! :D would love to hear this settings in comparison to the badlander. Stay Heavy my Friends 🤘

Badlander with the TS was my favorite tonally in this instance. The 5150 would be my preference if I was using a 7 string or any tuning A and below I'd probably go that route.

Both are awesome, but I really like the responsiveness of the Mesa Badlander.

In my band I play a Mesa (rhythm). Lead plays a 6505. Sound good together

my God... both of them are gold

IMO the Mesa has plenty of natural low end that really wouldn't benefit from a resonance control, so I don't consider that a negative. The EVH benefits from it because it's a little thinner by design. With a boost, it's the opposite... the Mesa benefits more from a boost and the EVH has so much gain on tap that it doesn't need any help other than maybe to tighten it up a bit. Both are crushing but I lean towards the Mesa (own both as well as other Mesas and EVH's).

the thing about the mesa was the mids grunt and i recon it would sit better in the mix, with something to tighten the bottom end. i'm of the opinion that it's easier to take something out of a sound than to add something thats not naturally there. to me the evh was scooped and tight but lacked personality.

This is an excellent way to kick off the new series! Hope we'll see more gear comparisons in the future... lots of gear reviews out there but not as many videos putting similar products head to head to decide the absolute best :). Loved it, can't wait for more!

I've been on an early 2000s kick lately and the Badlander would do perfectly.

Through headphones listening to the video; it seemed the MESA had a bit more growl, mid seemed beefier. But I am sure anyone would be thrilled with either. 😊

@gordon5064

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, to me the Badlander had more grittiness/rawness which I preferred over the EVH

I prefer the sound of the mesa badlander, probably because I dont listen to a lot of modern metal though

Between these two and the way they were dialed in this video, I actually prefer the Mesa

Both of them sound great and have their place. If I could only have one I'd take the EVH.

Love the classic amp/gear reviews. The good stuff not just the new stuff 😊

The blue channel on the 5150 might have been a better comparison against the badlander.

luv the rec! seems tighter.🤘🤘🤘

One thing that jumps out at me right way as a gigging musician is the size difference. I love the compact size of the Badlander. Much easier to carry around, and it'll fit on a 24" wide 2x12 cab. I have the 50 watt version. Kinda wish I had paid a little extra for the 100 watter since they're the same size. Both these amps sound killer though. Thanks Ola!

Yes to both of them. Killer riffs Ola!!

Never really liked Mesa but in this case i would surely chose the Mesa as it sounds more mean to my ear.

I'm a huge 5150 fan.. But for some reason I'm digging that Mesa more between the two!!!!

@TheThingThatShouldNotBe

Жыл бұрын

It's what happens when fender buys a company they ruin it and it sounds like dog shit.

@joshuapitz4906

Жыл бұрын

@@TheThingThatShouldNotBe I own an original 5150.. amazing amp.. idk why but that new Mesa sounds fukn crushing!!!! I think im gonna go try one out..

@TheThingThatShouldNotBe

Жыл бұрын

Original as in the peavey?

@joshuapitz4906

Жыл бұрын

@@TheThingThatShouldNotBe yes sir!!!! The OG.. I believe it's from 95..

@TheThingThatShouldNotBe

Жыл бұрын

Now that brings me back!!!! Take my upvote

I gotta say, I actually dig the badlander. Something just guttural about the way it sounds and I want it

Having an EVH5150III 50 Stealth and a Mesa Dual Rectifier, I can't choose between those guys ! They are extremely complementary for all type of Metal stuff, even if the Mesa is more versatile. But the precision and the brutality of the EVH fits perfectly with the darker and wilder side of the Mesa... Last but not least, as Ola said, the EVH is much easier to dial with to get a very good sound while the Mesa requires a little work...

@joelohr3414

Жыл бұрын

Either one will do the job.

I prefer the rawness of the mesa it would also cut through a band mix well

That Mesa can be inserted into modern music, np. Much more open with a wider dynamic / tonal range and without that narrow *squawk* of the 5150.

Hey Ola, love the series. Does removing tone pot/pots from the circuit make the pickups hotter, and if so is the difference really that audible. Wish you all the best in 2023, and maybe 1 mill, who knows...

@Sperzel

Жыл бұрын

I’m not Ola, sorry, but yes. Removing the pots does increase the output a little, you’ll also get more high end. You can install a blower switch on a push pull or toggle switch to bypass everything and just go straight to the output jack.

one in right channel, other in left channel. Amazing combination for recording

Thank you Ola for all that you do man!! Also keep kickin A$S. Gethchapull 333🤘🏻🎸🍻

Great Respongse 🤘the Mesa Badlander 25 lunchbox is on my buy list… I have the EVH 5150III stealth LBX and love it ❤️ awesome video Ola 🤘🔥🤘 I think both amps sound awesome in their own ways 🤘🔥🤘

Is it just me or is there a weird slap back, doubling sound?

@alisynn

Ай бұрын

yeah it’s just that the room mic is too loud

I like the way that the Mesa sounds in this video but usually I prefer the 5150. Usually the 5150 sounds tighter I think.

Cool Video, Thanks Ola excellent playing, I have both amps but Mesa Badlander through Mesa Cabinets V 30's and the EVH 5150 IIIS through the EVH Cabs & Greenbacks, there's the difference and how I think they sound the best and different.

This is like FAQ on steroids, really like it!

I prefer that badlands, that thing is sick!

Cool new series! Both sounded great. I could see/hear both together in a band setting.

i sold my EVH 50w stealth to get a badlander 50W...the EVH had kind of a "sterile" sound to my ears...plenty of gain but just wasn't my thing after a while...i pair the badlander with my mesa mark IV in a stereo rig with a little pepers dirty tree mixed in (TC mode) and i'm all set!!!

I liked the Badlander, without the TS, a lot. Not so much the EVH. However, I liked the EVH with the TS a lot better than the Badlander with the TS.

Ola ! Would like to see how you record. The process ( short version). Going from either tube amp or plug-in's. Also what new interfaces do you think are good for less than $1000. Avid, Universal Audio, Apogee and etc. Maybe a 2023 in-depth studio desk review?? Thanks again for the great content !!

Both amps are completely viable, you'd do well to have both in your studio, but coming from someone who doesn't have any amps yet, I'd probably buy an amp from the 5150 line, just because of the sheer versatility in them. That and at least 70% of my favorite tones were made with some variation of that amp.

@jasonday8334

Жыл бұрын

I dig my 5150, great for gigs, it’s as heavy as a small car, thankfully for caster wheels. But an excellent amp.

I had the EVH IIIS and sold it to get the Badlander 100w, it has a more gut wrenching punch. No regrets!

This is a really cool series,I'm Loving it!!!lol damn,now I want a big Mac.😜🤘

Respong!

EVH 5150 III 100w el34 & 100w stealth have a secret function. Blue gain pot effects a gain structure of red channel. Try change blue gain while you are in red channel. When pot is higher it cuts the bass and gain is stronger. When pot is lower bass are boosted and gain reduced. For almost same gain structure as 50w version or original 100w you must set blue channel gain pot on 3,5.

@truckguy3

Жыл бұрын

A definite unheard of little secret with these for sure, he’ll even I forgot about it almost!

The EVH just because I think it sounds just way angrier and nastier. The badlander still sounds dope though and would still be stoked to have one.

Great new series!!! Need more!!!

I prefer the mesa, which is interesting because the last mesa I played, I didnt like it, it wasnt very clear, kind of muddy, and I didnt have time to dial it in for something I liked, so I kind of wrote it off. It was a mark 5.

Badlander for me. For some reason the EVH lacks definition, when Ola is doing fast changes it just seems to get lost, whereas the badlander I can hear everything very clearly. Maybe it’s just the way Ola has it dialed in on the EVH. I’d still rather have the badlander though.

Seriously that badlander my new favorite amp

I really like the MESA tone. non boosted.

Yeah, interesting, I'm also drawn more to the Badlander sound here...

The Testament-riffs sounded best on the Mesa (to my ears). But that's possibly a given :D

I feel the Badlander is the more pleasing sound to my ears. I hate my 5150 and love my Mesa F50. Just my 2 cents

No question for me, the Badlander.

Ok that's what we need next time: Guttural amps, Badlander vs Savage 120

Everywhere is on about the new katana artist mk2 . Can you do one of these shootouts with one please 🤘🏻

The difference is so small & insignificant through my Samsung Galaxy's speaker. I wish I could tell. Both sound fine.

Please Respong! Best heavy tone. Hesu Demon vs Eminence DV-77.

Oh My Googily moogily,That BadLander was Gorgeous!!!🤘😜👍

I love these type of videos

The election go to depend of you are looking for, both amps are amazing. Me, I would choose the badlander, because I like so much the sound of rectifier and you can get amazing sound with a good equalization in the channels.

#pleaserespong Choosing mic set ups, one mic or blending more than one mic together. What is your thoughts and process for this. Or do you ever blend more than one amp together?

Im floored i thought there would be a bigger difference. It feels like the bad lander was made to handle pedals seems like it has a lot of headroom. EVH seems to pierce through more but a bit thinner.

Hi Ola, great video idea. Its an FAQ with „life“.

I’ve got a badlander and paired it with the mudkiller and wow amazing combo

I'd prefer the Mesa even if I was into drop tuned metal. To me it just sounds better. Maybe I'm not a big fan of the "modern" metal voicing so much. Yeah, I'm sure of it.

Mesa for me (if I could afford it) EVH sounds much thinner and compressed to my ear

Badlander for me, sounds more balanced overall. The 5150 III's pre-gain shaping boosts the high mids a bit too much, and the final tone sounds a tad blanketed.

Great series concept!

Really like this Support-type content, hopefully you'll have the Kemper back at some point :)

the EVH is half the price of a badlander here in europe so just a no brainer for me... but i also prefere the EVH 5150III 50w stealth and the good old much underrated roadster 🦾🦾

Both sound amazing. The Mesa, for these settings anyway, has a darker metal tone and the EVH has a little more brightness to it. I'm sure the EVH can be EQ'd to get that darker tone but I think overall you have more diversity with the EVH. I bought an Iconic and could not believe what a wide range of tones it has. My Marshall JCM 900 and my modded Blue Voodoo are nowhere near the Iconic for range. Good job Ola!

Hej Ola! Could you show us the proper way to capture a speaker IR. Always been curious what the process is like. Love this new format btw🤘🔥.

Oh man, that Badlander is brutal, holy! I want one bad.

TS into Badlander or 5150 just on it's own, 5150with no OD is my preference because it's more grindy.

A year ago I had to decide between the two of them. I took the EVH though I also very much like the Badlander tone. But the EVH is not just cheaper its also more "my" tone ;)

Both great. I'd have to go with the Badlander.

This is a badass comparison 👏

Great vid. Hard to decide on new amps sometimes lol

Badlander sounds like the world is ending neatly. 5150 sounds like the world is ending up in chaos.