Watch how to replace the impeller and pump housing on a Mercruiser Alpha One Gen II stern drive. You can do it the right way and save money. The left over seal was for the oil fill screw
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@alexandercornwallis43293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan for the attention to the details. It's hard to find such high quality instruction videos nowadays. Thank you again!!
@keithdickinson60454 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Finally doing it myself this year. Note: Last impeller change was done by an authorized Mercruiser shop. There was no sealant on any of the gaskets when I removed the old impeller.
@jonparkmac
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, since these don't need to be water tight anyway sealer is unnecessary. Consider replacing the assembly seal underneath the pump as well. There's two orings that wear and will leak eventually. It's very easy to do while you have it exposed. Also ..putting the lower unit back on is a bit tricky. Have to orient the feed tube correctly and put the shifter in forward.
@keithdickinson6045
4 ай бұрын
@@jonparkmac Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to do it. Enjoy!
@garysites34225 жыл бұрын
I like 2 things very much about this vid. first the wooden stand made from scrap wood is awesome. I will be making one of those for myself, and the cut off bolts used as guide pins. I know they are not needed , but I like this idea very much.Thanks for posting.
@ABS72618 жыл бұрын
great video and I appreciate your attention to detail and organization. I did chuckle at the 2 interruptions. It never fails, anytime you do a "how to" video you become a magnent for your wife or kids or the neighbors leaf blower...
@Rampage007694 жыл бұрын
The only vid so far that mentions to make sure the shaft does not touch the housing. There for the only one i will recommend watching for this service. Great job! Those two extra seals are for the upper and lower gear drive drain screws. Well i got two anyway lol.
@michaelthompson14934 жыл бұрын
I wish all DIY videos were of this caliber. Your planning, thoroughness, clear explanations, and caution statements are confidence inspiring to those who believe in doing things themselves. And doing them correctly. Minor details are critical to mechanical maintenance and repair. Now I am hoping that you have posted the removal/ refitting process for the drive. Just a couple of mentions: (1) Since it is important for the shaft not to contact the impeller housing bore maybe a feeler gauge would be helpful. Better would be a piece of thin gauge sheet/roll metal, like deck flashing, that could be wrapped around the shaft as a spacer until the bolts are secured. This would help ensure the best possible coaxial alignment of the bore and shaft . (2) Is it not advisable to use an anti-seize compound on the fasteners in this application instead of marine grease? Knowing that it is not recommend to lubricate fasteners during assembly, anti-seize is made specifically for threaded unions. (3) You began threading the bolts in a diametrically opposite manner, then switched to a circular pattern. I have always stayed with diametrically opposite all the way through. I personally believe that it helps to achieve a better distributed clamping force. And on that note, I think this project is the one that finally sees a 3/8" drive torque wrench that I always said I would buy. (4) Do you recall the diameter and thread pitch of the bolts that you used as guide pins? I like to have everything I need before I begin work. And that will be the one bolt size I do not have in stock at 2:00am..
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for words and glad it helped. Good suggestions. Those pins really are intended to max the alignment accuracy, they are thicker than the the bolts so cover doesn't move. I suppose antiseize would be ok, marine grease won't wash out. I don't recall thread specs, but I took a screw to hardware store and got exact match on a bolt, then I cut the head off. The oring I had was for the fill plug. Good luck.
@benalford6302
4 жыл бұрын
Michael, you’re correct that torquing fasteners in a diametric fashion (star pattern) is necessary to achieve even clamping force; however, once all fasteners are torqued properly it is acceptable to check their torque in a circular pattern because all you’re doing is verifying none of them loosened. If you find any that are loose, re-perform the star pattern.
@mueckenhoeffer4 жыл бұрын
Best replacement video I've seen so far. Thanks.
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Gotta do mine again this winter so I'll be watching my own vidi to remember 🙂
@chloejones59285 жыл бұрын
If the extra piece is plastic and not rubber, it is for the gear lube drain hole. My kit actually came with two -- One for the drain and one for the vent.
@ronpeterson24848 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - very well articulated. I have an older 470 drive which is going through its annual pre-season check-out. The alignment pins made out of commonly available bolts(screws) is a terrific idea. Many thanks for posting your work.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I'm redoing this same exact unit right now, and will also replace the carrier seal
@drcoffee55882 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The Best video I have seen so far on this repair
@edwardmorton67305 жыл бұрын
Nice work on this video! I'm replacing my first Alpha 1 Gen 2 water pump impeller tomorrow morning, and this video was so much more helpful and "human" than the usual Professional Disco Boy (Mika Marine) stuff that Mercury puts out on their website or in their service manuals.
@brandon7867e
5 жыл бұрын
Edward Morton I’m going to do mine tomorrow. I’ve heard something about needing to put the gear selector in forward prior to separating the lower unit. Is this necessary ?
@boxironjoe1624 жыл бұрын
Absolutely best how to description video on water pump l have seen
@erictingler77354 жыл бұрын
If you dont have a tool or washer to seat the gasket on top of the impeller housing the old impeller works perfectly
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip. I've seen people leave the tool on there thinking it was actually part of the assembly lol
@hernangotes3380
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac hi can you please tell me the part number for the impeller kit thanks!!!!
@kevinochoa38618 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to teach this. Excellent job. It made the impeller change a breeze! -- Kev
@richmac9185 жыл бұрын
Good video, well done. Only comment I would make is that rather than using grease on the inside of the pump housing, use dish soap. Some greases will cause the impeller rubber to degrade over time. Dish soap will provide the lubrication you are looking for and wash out the first time the pump is run with water in it.
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It's a good suggestion if you don't have marine grease. I used what is recommended in the manual and by mecruiser. You are correct, petroleum lubes like vasaline can degrade rubber.
@ross520663 жыл бұрын
This video was perfect for me. The only thing that would've also been helpful is if you showed how to detach/reattach the lower drive piece. That part I had to go find on some other KZread videos. But the replacement of the impeller and the details were amazing and I got mine done. Thank you much!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and putting it back on is tricky .. have to position the shift lever or it won't mate
@ross52066
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Luckily I had a buddy tell me about that shift lever so we were good to go! My wife helped me stick a couple bolts back in so I didn't have to hold it the whole time and then buttoned everything back up, filled it with lower gear oil, then ran it with the muffs on. No problems! Thanks again fro the video!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
@Adam Dirks Pump the oil in from the bottom until it overflows out top hole to remove all air, then fill reservoir. Also good to put a good marine grease like Aquaguard on those nuts so the threads don't lock and easier to remove next time. Glad you gott'd done!
@MrCalifornia12346 жыл бұрын
Well done. I would recommend to others you skip buying the extra housing (in most cases) and buy that lower carrier seal below the impeller. Mine started leaking (out the weep hole) with the new fresh thinner oil so I had to take it all part again.
@muddnsnow8552 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial... I wish I would have found it earlier.
@joeyrizk32754 жыл бұрын
Great video brother. Really really helpful to those of us that like to do our own work.
@billybobsowbreath1774Ай бұрын
STEP # 1 on all DIY videos: TAKE PICTURES! Take them before you dissemble anything at every step of the way. Those pictures may save you a ton guesswork or re-work. Just about everyone has a cell phone these days or has access to one to take nice pictures, so there's really no excuse. Trust me on this one folks. TAKE PICTURES! A picture truly is worth a thousand words. Personally I don't use any sealer on the gaskets on the water pump. The latest kit has a steel gasket for the very bottom, then the contact plate, then another gasket that has sealant already on it (face it up when installing).
@jonparkmac
Ай бұрын
Actually you should take pictures anyway .. regardless of making a DIY video. Also, if you are making a DIY video... then you already have a digital record to refer back too and usually don't need pictures 😉. But yes it's a great point, I do it one way other the other .. especially on intricate projects like carburetors and chainsaws. Thanks for the comment!
@rushbuzzy5 жыл бұрын
I am getting ready to attempt this myself. It will be a first for me but your video helped explain a lot. Thanks for sharing.
@edwardlincoln39813 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video tutorial and your time very much appreciated
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@jonparkmac8 жыл бұрын
Figured out what the remaining seal washer was for. Its for the lower oil drain plug. Replace it with the new one, even if you don't think you need to.
@JesterStrike
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly why I was watching the video. I was wondering what those gaskets were for. I had two in my kit. I assume one for the upper vent plug and the other for the drain plug.
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
JesterStrike yes, the upper one is a rubber o ring and it's for the gear oil transfer from upper to lower unit. without it, oil leak and possibly water in oil, both bad.
@frankiewasp39145 жыл бұрын
Great "easy to follow" instructional video. Thank you !
@thomasayers630 Жыл бұрын
You might check to see if it goes to the magnetic oil screw at the bottom of the unit. They usually send you a crush washer for that.
@chrisweis4 жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic video!! Wish I found this two months ago
@christophercarter36855 жыл бұрын
the o ring is for the gear lube hole between the upper and lower drive units
@motor41516 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! So clear to understand. Thank you
@vincesilva11283 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for your help Sir.
@aronbechiom5654 жыл бұрын
Liking that stand frame... getting ready to do mine.
@alvinslovinsky84808 жыл бұрын
Excellent video very detailed in going through the process makes doing the job for a first timer much easier to do.
@ikkebuyckx7 жыл бұрын
nice vid, i would not use the grease on rubber though. it eats rubber just like oil dois. use vaseline on the rubber parst like the rings and the impellor itself... and the insite of the housing. the little o ring is for the gear oil channel that runs up to the control container i guess. cheers. happy boating!
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
jelle buyckx Vaseline is probably ok, I used exactly what the manual specifies which is merc marine lube, not grease
@ikkebuyckx
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its probebly ok. I am just always very carefull whit rubbers. I even saw people use dishwashing soap to put on the impeller. Thats a real big no no. :)
@brobins72
5 жыл бұрын
@@ikkebuyckx why is dish soap a big No-No? Grease is a big No-No of any kind. I'm surprised they recommend Grease. Have you ever seen grease and water whipped together? It basically Foams up and expands. It can clog up passages. The dish soap does the same job of helping the impeller slip in the housing and it simply disappears when the water circulates through. Actually have you ever heard of salt Terminator? Guess what it's made of...
@stevieb2564
4 жыл бұрын
My old auto teacher warned all the guys not to use vaseline on rubbers cuz it would deteriorate the rubber and you’d be a daddy!
@elimonjal7 жыл бұрын
thank you, very good explanation, i have to do this tomorrow.
@jetboy0012 жыл бұрын
That gasket is called quad ring. It provides sealed passage for oil between upper and lower.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
It's was fill screw gasket. The seal you mean is a rubber oring and not a gasket. Thanks tho
@aSkater4Life15 жыл бұрын
The extra gasket is a fiber washer for the lube screw. There should have been 2 of them.
@daytonasunset
3 жыл бұрын
It's what i thought, there's only one in this package though.
@ricardolaureano9839
3 жыл бұрын
I found an area that the o ring fits it's the second groove on the front tube below the first o ring that's where I put mine 😎
@joeyrizk32754 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thank you for posting
@davidjessee77014 жыл бұрын
Good job..I know you put ALOT emphasis on the direction of the veins of the impeller.... But it's really not an issue at all...even if you turned the shaft counter clockwise when pushing down the impeller housing, the first time you turn the motor on the impeller WILL correct itself on the very first rotation .....
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know, always wondered about that
@tjwoolsey4782 жыл бұрын
Loves to hear himself talk
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, it's you that likes to hear me talk big boy 😉
@Imotbro2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Will have to do this one again this year. It's time and I need to do a little fin repair
@russellstone9056 Жыл бұрын
I have a Mercruiser 260 with a Alpha 1 Gen 2 (I thought anyway). The impeller is much smaller with smaller blades. Maybe I have an Alpha 2 pump kit installed? The boat has run great over 10 years even though it's not taken out often.
@russelday19672 жыл бұрын
Those gaskets are for the drain and fill screws I believe
@robertgray65124 жыл бұрын
I made that frame and I love it. Great idea. Question: how do I change the yellow Carrier Assembly? Help?
@robertgray6512
4 жыл бұрын
I remove the yellow part with two long screw drivers - used as pry bars.
@scottgaunt5882 жыл бұрын
thank you! very helpful!
@krosipkosr7 жыл бұрын
the extra O ring is for the gear lube hole (the hole you covered to prevent debris from entering)
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
Keith rosipko actually no, it was for the oil fill plug at the bottom, the oil transfer oring is different and already accounted for. g
@tylermorrison32675 жыл бұрын
The gasket you weren't sure of is the case drain plug gasket. Video is good though!
@vitorodom8232 жыл бұрын
Great video! Helped a ton for my first DIY project. Is it possible to post the specs of the drive holder you made with wood? Thanks.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
I get this a lot. I posted the specs. But it's easy to do with 1 x 2
@robocopdrago4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Video of replacing the bellow on alpha one gen 2?
@jayvette754 жыл бұрын
Small gasket at the end of the video if it is black the gear lube port on the side if it is blue it is the oil drain or vent hole
@hedgepethracing95903 ай бұрын
That sling seal seals oil into the top half as well, it will push itself into place when you slide the shaft into the top half won't it?
@jonparkmac
Ай бұрын
Actually no, nothing touches the top of that seal. That's why they provide that plastic tool. It's not for oil, it's to keep water from spraying up into the upper unit and of course keeps pressure up. It's not supposed press down onto the housing very tight. I see people leave the plastic tool in there thinking it's a part lol
@DIGOLOGIST3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I have to not only do that, I may have to replace the main shaft seal. Somehow gear oil is coming out of my water pick up holes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for the great video.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah replace the seal on the bearing. Also, there is a small rubber oring for the oil channel between upper and lower units, so make sure it's there.
@DIGOLOGIST
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Thanks.
@fredgarvez84326 жыл бұрын
GOOD TIME TO PRESS TEST LOWER UNIT & O ring go to OIL supply to lower unit!
@tragan14763 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out what the extra gasket is for ? I'm thinking maybe the drain plug but who knows....also are there any videos showing that water tube and pocket cover replacement....I'm new to a boat . I like to watch and make sure I do stuff right haha
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was just the lower oil drain plug.
@gman.71232 жыл бұрын
Hi there 👋 by any chance do you remember the size of the glide bolt you use
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
No but take one of the screws to the hw store and match the threads ..then cut the head off with hack saw
@markwhitney5728
Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can let me know the thread pattern when you make your guide bolts?
@markwhitney5728
Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can let me know the thread pattern when you make your guide bolts?
@oswalddesign7 жыл бұрын
Well done. Very clear. The other rubber seal, I believe goes on the stern drive upper section. At least, I believe I watched another guy place one there. Would that be the oil seal you are mentioning?
@ChrisG99782 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video - very helpful! I am in the midst of changing the impeller on my Alpha One Gen 2. When I removed the lower unit from the upper, the entire tube on top of the impeller outlet pulled out from the upper. So I not only had the white plastic sleeve attached, but also a rubber hose of some sort from the upper. Is this normal and can I just press-fit to reinstall that tube into the upper? It appears as though the white plastic sleeve is designed to fit into that rubber hose as the lower is being installed into the upper. Another concern I had was that there was no seal on the main shaft above the impeller housing. It either disintegrated or was never installed (or not installed during a previous impeller replacement by the former owner).
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
The inner tube is actually the water feed and ok to take out and put back in. It has a curve so don't get it backwards or you'll crimp it. The white PVC is only a guide. You want the inner tube up in the upper and white on the lower. Put gear shift in forward and make sure the shift lever sits in the saddle. Also connect the speedometer tube. Use grease on the bolts and nuts. Don't forget the oil oring. It should go together easy no force. Pump oil backwards from very bottom till it comes out top hole, then put top screw in and keep pumping till it comes into reservoir. Small seal above pump housing should be in your kit ..there are orings up in the upper unit. You need the seal or it will spray water up into the upper unit. Grease the splines and little grease on shaft. Don't leave that plastic ring from the kit on the shaft. It's a tool to seat the seal and not a part.
@ChrisG9978
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan! One question on the water feed tube - should the curve go toward the stern of the boat or out toward the prop? Wanted to double-check before I reassemble the lower later today. The other question I have is why can't the gear oil be poured in through the Reservoir on the engine? I understand it's there as an indicator and gear oil can be added through there if it ever runs low, but was confused as to why the gear oil can't be poured back in through that reservoir in the engine. I do have the Quicksilver quart bottle hand-pump however and know that I need a bit more than 2 quarts of gear oil to top it off. I replaced the oil O-ring with the one in the kit, and knew that plastic ring was a tool thanks to your video. I also replaced the orange O-rings inside the plastic outlet that connects to the impeller housing since the kit included them. I always grease the new O-rings before fitting them back in. I put generous amounts of 2-4-C Quicksilver grease on the shaft spline as well as the main shaft, and greased the bolts (I generally do this to prevent future seizing, but you have to be careful torquing them down as grease makes the bolts much easier to torque). I'm not sure which tube is for the speedometer - is it that small black tube on the lower with the O-ring? Otherwise I didn't see any other tubes on the lower.
@ChrisG9978
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Figured it out...tube had to curve inward toward the boat, behind that plastic insert inside the upper housing. Got the lower back in no problem, started the engine, new impeller seems to be working perfectly. Thanks again for the video tutorial!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisG9978 glad to help. The reason you shouldn't just pour it in from the top is because you'll trap air pockets in the oil system and you cannot know where those are. Can lead to a lack of oil when you need it most
@chrisaz75674 жыл бұрын
Thanks, nice video. I thought you were not supposed to use vaseline or petroleum-based grease on the impeller as install lube because they might not be as safe for rubber. I have used water-based lube (e.g. KY jelly) although it dries kind of fast. You could probably use silicone lube (such as for plumbing seals) also.
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Best to use what manual says. I used endorsed marine grease by mercruiser. Don't use petroleum like Vaseline as I to will break down rubber.
@chrisaskme811
2 жыл бұрын
I broke a rubber once using KY, now he’s all grown up and helping me with my lower unit rebuild
@tyleredelsberg12073 жыл бұрын
could someone please provide a link to the kits you or mr mcclure have used? quite a few on the market that all seem to have different components. 1995 alpha 1 gen 2. thank you
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Part number was 154481F. But it was a while ago now.
@santiagomosti1613 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Could you provide the Quicksilver part# por thr repair kit? Alpha One Gen 2. Thank you!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Im afraid I gotten this from a supply company that no longer has the part.
@davidhuybers65016 жыл бұрын
What part number, manufacture, and who did you purchased the parts from?
@raulfernandez91112 жыл бұрын
What is the part# impeller kit for this exact gen 2 stern drive?
@jjsmith39655 жыл бұрын
I need to do my impeller. Can you share the specifics on your lower unit cradle that you made? Thanks
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It'll be a week before I get to it, but basically you build two squares with height 1" taller tgan the length between bottom of rutter and the lower horizontal fin. Then set the prop on those and put 2 cross mbrs on each end to secure it. I drilled and used wood screws.
@wesleyadams54333 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. What was the bolt size / thread pitch for the impeller housing "alignment studs"?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall but I took the actual bolts to hw store and matched the threads on a long bolt, then cut the heads off with hacksaw.
@jeffgranger1283
2 жыл бұрын
M6x16x1 is the bolt size
@chuckque6234 Жыл бұрын
If the shaft spins either way (forward or reverse) why does it matter which direction the impeller fins are placed? they are going to move in either direction depending on if your in drive etc
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
The down shaft always spins in the same direction. Shifter is below the pump to change direction of the impeller shaft at the 90 degree junction joint. In fact I suggest testing that manually just so you learn how the shifter operates
@tomhause8365 Жыл бұрын
I will be doing this myself not sure I ordered right part. Got part number from serial number on drive.
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Consider replacing the drive seal too android don't bend/pinch the plastic tube that connects to the upper unit. Good luck brutha
@billsouthard43463 жыл бұрын
Hi just wondering about the yellow dome looking thing under the water pump gaskets. Picked up my rebuild kit the other day and that part was included and I can't find any videos that explain how to remove and replace this part. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That seals the bearing underneath and is not part of the pump assembly. You don't need to replace it unless it's several years old with a lot of hours. And if you do, may as well replace the bearings.
@jeffreymolinaro70124 жыл бұрын
Hey John, I just did impeller, gimbel bearing, a few o rings out everything back together filled with gear oil, took a look and noticed water leaking from top cap of outdrive. I noticed the guide tube was a little cocked. Not sure if that was the problem? Another thing my impeller gasket kit didn't come with 2 paper gasket it was one paper, the plate then a very thin plate?
@BlackheathTownhouse4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Anyone know what gasket sealant he used on the gaskets?
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
No sealant on the housing gasket. Didn't have any sealant from factory and not in solec manual either.
@rubes1688
4 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac you must be mistaken on the question or maybe he worded it wrong but you put on some gasket sealer with a paint brush while putting on the gaskets
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
No mistake. No need for sealant. The gasket is for adequate pressure and not for absolute leak prevention because both sides are in contact with water anyway. So adding sealant doesn't add any protection or value. Use if you like. Really is unnecessary.
@groovymoon4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. What are the inside dimensions of the top of that stand you built? What is it's height.... thanks
@gatornation38893 жыл бұрын
The extra gasket is for either the drain plug screw or the vent hole screw.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Drain plug. No such thing as "vent hole"
@gatornation3889
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmacnot sure what out drive you have, but my alpha one gen 2 has a drain/fill plug on the bottom of the skeg and a VENT hole in the upper portion of the out drive. It's the screw you remove when you are filling the outdrive with gear oil that tells you the drive is full....buy an actual Manuel, but please don't stay things that you have no idea to what you speak.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That's on the upper unit. The pump is in the lower unit so the kit doesn't come with upper unit parts. I have the Manual, but not the 'Manuel' lol
@dwetick17 жыл бұрын
My Chriscraft has a raw water thru-hull intake and belt driven pump to cool the engine. It also has an Alpha 1 outdrive and pump that does nothing...or maybe cool the outdrive? I've never really found out. When running on land, I've always connected two hoses, one for the engine and another for the outdrive. Am I doing this correctly...I've never really found out?
@dennisbrancato61212 жыл бұрын
I have the same lower unit and I had to remove it for a skeg repair. However, there is a part that came out of this unit that I cannot see on any parts list I cannot remember how it went in. The part is a white rectangular piece of plastic about 4x3 inches with an X from corner to corner on one side. Anyone know anything about this part?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with out drive
@andersbuch94593 жыл бұрын
Hey - great really helpfull video. Could you perhaps write the dimensions of the wooden frame you cuild? thanks
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I'll post the dimensions but it'll be a week. Honestly, have a bunch of 1x2 a drill and some wood screws and build it on the spot. That's what I did as sort of a last minute thing.
@jaroslaw9596 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@GreenOval_Adventurers3 жыл бұрын
What happens if you forgot to put the sling seal on? should the unit work okay?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I'd think you might loose a little pressure and water will spray inside the compartment. But I don't know if it would cause damage.
@nazmen0406 жыл бұрын
Just fininshed my winterization about 2 months which included changing the lower unit gear oil, always a bit messy. Was recently checking my maintenance records and think its time to replace the impeller which was done 3 years ago. Some other videos direct you to drain the lower unit gear oil prior replacing the impeller. Do I need to do this? Seems to me that if I take care to temporarily cover the gear lube transfer hole from the upper supply reservoir I save myself from having to drain and refill the unit. Can you comment. Thank you for a well done video.
@jonparkmac
6 жыл бұрын
nazmen040 good question, definitely drain it. Gear oil is relatively cheap and good to change anyway. Remove the top vent screw, then the bottom and let it all out.
@drcoffee55882 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, what sealer dod you use for the o-ring on the gear oil passage?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
None. The rubber oring IS the seal.
@alfredoalvarez42595 жыл бұрын
Talk as you do your work
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
Or even eat as you work, that's what I do
@123antres8 жыл бұрын
Please tell me in what osition the front controller is in ? Do you squeeze handle and push all the way forward before you start lower drive removal ? Thx in advance.
@jonparkmac
8 жыл бұрын
yes, I put it in forward gear first. You can actually see where the lever mates with shift cradle and see if it detaches. Patience and even downward pressure is key..just don't beat with a metal mallot
@chadpapineau9209
3 жыл бұрын
Is it critically important to put it in gear before taking the lower unit off? I took mine off while gear was in neutral and am worried I might have screwed this up by not putting it in gear....
@scotttuley8347
2 жыл бұрын
@@chadpapineau9209 just put it in gear before putting lower unit back on. It’s nice to have another person helping that can turn prop shaft for alignment.
@jrrains2 жыл бұрын
Do you drain all the gear lube out of lower unit before removing?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Yes or it will come out anyway and make a mess. I empty the reservoir too since it will drain all the way down and takes a while. When you reinstall you have pump the oil backward from bottom to top until it comes out plug in upper unit. Otherwise air trapped, no oil .. bad news.
@scottgibbons58625 жыл бұрын
That little o ring I believe is for the speedo cable did you find out or not because I'm doing mine?
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It's was actually a seal gasket for the lower drain plug. Technically not a rubber o ring
@zacatecano19863 жыл бұрын
How does the impeller stay with thhe shaft ? Os there a keyway or is it pressed on with pressure
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Keyway, it's in the video
@tunercars35 жыл бұрын
Does the impeller move when not in gear as in forward or reverse position it seems like fish after that is turning turns the prop as well and what have to be in gear to turn so how does the engine get water 1 in neutral is it sucking it impeller is only used for when the boat is in motion this might sound like a stupid question but I'm new to boating
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
t's not a stupid question at all. The impeller is always turning so water is always impelled to your engine water pump. The shift tongue on the lower unit moves the gears to be in forward, reverse, and nutral. When you have it off, you can move that tongue back and forth and then twist the shaft to see the prop shaft rotation to see how it works. Your shifter cable connects to that tongue.
@tunercars3
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac I appreciate your reply I was using text-to-speech so that's why there are some typos in there but none the less I sort of figured that but I assumed since the engine has a sea water pump on that would not emotion that would pull from that I made an observation of it not being in motion when it's not and gear because I noticed that the shaft turns and the prop turns with it but it may have just been when the lower unit was taken apart it was put into gear someone that is put back together it goes together correctly
@kevinmccarey50154 жыл бұрын
Hello Jonathan. Terrific job on your part. Very helpful for me with my same unit. Can you tell me how long between changing water pump and how will I be able to see your comments after I sign off here. Thank you
@ross52066
3 жыл бұрын
I have had friends recommend just changing your impeller yearly. It's cheap insurance.
@ryansimnacher54592 жыл бұрын
Could you provide the alignment bolt thread pitch used in the video please. Thank you.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Been so long I don't know, but just take the orig screw to hw store .. always a thread checker right there .. that is what I did
@ryansimnacher5459
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac thank you, also, I noticed you didn't replace the carrier seal. Is that recommended to be changed also?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryansimnacher5459 most definitely .. I'm doing that right now in fact. I didn't in the vidi only because it was brand new. Use the one made by mercury .. part is 807929A1.
@davidjessee7701 Жыл бұрын
The extra gasket is probably the drain screw gasket
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
It was. The ones in that kit leak. So I now use ones that have thin rubber coating and a tad thicker. I also replace that yellow assembly seal each time now too.
@diydadsht97852 жыл бұрын
Is your unit a RH propeller version? I'm trying to make sure this impeller I'm working on is facing the correct direction.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Check the shape of the old impeller .. it will bent in direction
@diydadsht9785
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Even if the last guy possibly installed it wrong?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@diydadsht9785 yes. The engine would have forced it the right way
@rydr795 жыл бұрын
Why after reinstalling gearshaft housing, my reverse won't engage
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
Check to make sure the shift tab is aligned. I think you have to put the shift in forward position when you mate the lower unit back on to the upper unit. I think you need to take it off, shift, and out it back on.
@shawn_hu Жыл бұрын
that washer is for gear oil screw
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. You know tho I ended up using a better thicker one that has a rubber film on it. Way better than the one in the kit.
@shawn_hu
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac That washer better to be good as these are underwater. Thanks for sharing this information
@stevenbuteaux3 жыл бұрын
Whats the part number for this kit?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
I got it from go2marine 154481F but may not be available
@johnm5141 Жыл бұрын
Hey I removed lower unit in neutral and then shifted in forward now I can’t get it to shift back in neutral or if I redo it goes to neutral but not reverse please help
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
You'll have to take it back off and orient the shift tongue forward which is FWD. Then put your console shifter in FWD. Then reassemble and put your eyes on the tongue to make sure it mated ok. The shift tongue rotates from strait ahead to one side going thru neutral and reverse ..so it's not left to right ..it's 12, 1, 2 o'clock for fwd, neutral, rev.
@johnm5141
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac how do I align the upper from where I’m at to the right 12-1-2 does shifting cable need to be disconnected?
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Take the unit off and rotate it to 12:00 with your hand ..that's FWD. Play with it by grabbing the shaft with a rag and twist it to see which way the prop is rotating and then move the lever by hand from 1 to 2 and observe how it works. You'll see it change direction. Move it back to 12
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Also ..don't get that plastic water pump tube in there wrong or it will bend and pinch ..I did that once. Use marine lube on the threads and flange so it will come off easier next time.
@johnm5141
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac the clutch itself I know how to move but it doesn’t line up with the female part in the upper unit
@helloproject56986 жыл бұрын
very help full video, can you describe the brand name of the kit and part number? i try to find the same kit but nothing come up complete..
@jonparkmac
6 жыл бұрын
Part is Sierra 18-3570 from wholesale marine. www.wholesalemarine.com/sierra-18-3570-water-pump-kit.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwssvPBRBBEiwASFoVdyU8gPXgMcJj8fQUpxWmQtYoyy1MQIRkSSZx_2z9wVSfkcQbgvz7JxoCjzUQAvD_BwE
@stevieb2564
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Is the 2” thin O-ring in the parts kit for the shaft seal below the impeller housing?
@mrpowdercoater2 жыл бұрын
Is it ironic that I'm going to get seasick from him rocking back and forth?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Lol .. no it just means your a soft bellied green horn ✌️
@onemoreboat2 жыл бұрын
What impeller kit did you use?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
New Mercury Mercruiser Quicksilver OEM Part # 47-8M0100527 REPAIR KIT - IMP www.amazon.com/dp/B01BNSZQ9W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_1PVYS50E6BSJRD6NN71Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@andresnieves54285 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@billl39364 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase the pump kit from?
@djkennedy96192 жыл бұрын
Anyone make the wooden box stand, and what dimensions? Thanks!!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
You guys love that stand. Sorry I don't have dimensions. But you just cut to fit. Take some 1" x 2" pine and just cut it and screw it together. Measure thickest, by width and height on unit, and then add 1" to all 3 for inaide dimensions
@christophercarter36856 жыл бұрын
the gasket is for your gear case fill bolts and there should be two of them
@mattshackleton340
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I have been searching all of these videos to find what the hell these 2 extra seals were for - hadn't got to refilling oils yet, so didn't see the old ones come out! Thanks.
@researchcapt3 жыл бұрын
You never want to keep your old impeller. Rubber gets brittle over time which increases the chances of the impellers lobes to break off. Lube the impeller with a bit of silicon grease, not petroleum based grease which encourages rubber to swell, when installing the new impeller.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
You must not have actually watched the video brother. The whole point is to replace it, not reuse it. But thanks for the comment.
@daisy8luke2 жыл бұрын
That extra gasket goes on the drain plug.
@AdventureswithGB5 жыл бұрын
What size were those guide pins you bought?
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
They were just long machine screws I cut the heads off. I don't recall the size, I just matched the actual screws at the hw store
@AdventureswithGB
5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan McClure thanks. Great idea cause those pins are like 30 bucks.
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Thank you Jonathan for the attention to the details. It's hard to find such high quality instruction videos nowadays. Thank you again!!
Thanks for posting this. Finally doing it myself this year. Note: Last impeller change was done by an authorized Mercruiser shop. There was no sealant on any of the gaskets when I removed the old impeller.
@jonparkmac
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, since these don't need to be water tight anyway sealer is unnecessary. Consider replacing the assembly seal underneath the pump as well. There's two orings that wear and will leak eventually. It's very easy to do while you have it exposed. Also ..putting the lower unit back on is a bit tricky. Have to orient the feed tube correctly and put the shifter in forward.
@keithdickinson6045
4 ай бұрын
@@jonparkmac Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to do it. Enjoy!
I like 2 things very much about this vid. first the wooden stand made from scrap wood is awesome. I will be making one of those for myself, and the cut off bolts used as guide pins. I know they are not needed , but I like this idea very much.Thanks for posting.
great video and I appreciate your attention to detail and organization. I did chuckle at the 2 interruptions. It never fails, anytime you do a "how to" video you become a magnent for your wife or kids or the neighbors leaf blower...
The only vid so far that mentions to make sure the shaft does not touch the housing. There for the only one i will recommend watching for this service. Great job! Those two extra seals are for the upper and lower gear drive drain screws. Well i got two anyway lol.
I wish all DIY videos were of this caliber. Your planning, thoroughness, clear explanations, and caution statements are confidence inspiring to those who believe in doing things themselves. And doing them correctly. Minor details are critical to mechanical maintenance and repair. Now I am hoping that you have posted the removal/ refitting process for the drive. Just a couple of mentions: (1) Since it is important for the shaft not to contact the impeller housing bore maybe a feeler gauge would be helpful. Better would be a piece of thin gauge sheet/roll metal, like deck flashing, that could be wrapped around the shaft as a spacer until the bolts are secured. This would help ensure the best possible coaxial alignment of the bore and shaft . (2) Is it not advisable to use an anti-seize compound on the fasteners in this application instead of marine grease? Knowing that it is not recommend to lubricate fasteners during assembly, anti-seize is made specifically for threaded unions. (3) You began threading the bolts in a diametrically opposite manner, then switched to a circular pattern. I have always stayed with diametrically opposite all the way through. I personally believe that it helps to achieve a better distributed clamping force. And on that note, I think this project is the one that finally sees a 3/8" drive torque wrench that I always said I would buy. (4) Do you recall the diameter and thread pitch of the bolts that you used as guide pins? I like to have everything I need before I begin work. And that will be the one bolt size I do not have in stock at 2:00am..
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for words and glad it helped. Good suggestions. Those pins really are intended to max the alignment accuracy, they are thicker than the the bolts so cover doesn't move. I suppose antiseize would be ok, marine grease won't wash out. I don't recall thread specs, but I took a screw to hardware store and got exact match on a bolt, then I cut the head off. The oring I had was for the fill plug. Good luck.
@benalford6302
4 жыл бұрын
Michael, you’re correct that torquing fasteners in a diametric fashion (star pattern) is necessary to achieve even clamping force; however, once all fasteners are torqued properly it is acceptable to check their torque in a circular pattern because all you’re doing is verifying none of them loosened. If you find any that are loose, re-perform the star pattern.
Best replacement video I've seen so far. Thanks.
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Gotta do mine again this winter so I'll be watching my own vidi to remember 🙂
If the extra piece is plastic and not rubber, it is for the gear lube drain hole. My kit actually came with two -- One for the drain and one for the vent.
Excellent video - very well articulated. I have an older 470 drive which is going through its annual pre-season check-out. The alignment pins made out of commonly available bolts(screws) is a terrific idea. Many thanks for posting your work.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I'm redoing this same exact unit right now, and will also replace the carrier seal
Thank you. The Best video I have seen so far on this repair
Nice work on this video! I'm replacing my first Alpha 1 Gen 2 water pump impeller tomorrow morning, and this video was so much more helpful and "human" than the usual Professional Disco Boy (Mika Marine) stuff that Mercury puts out on their website or in their service manuals.
@brandon7867e
5 жыл бұрын
Edward Morton I’m going to do mine tomorrow. I’ve heard something about needing to put the gear selector in forward prior to separating the lower unit. Is this necessary ?
Absolutely best how to description video on water pump l have seen
If you dont have a tool or washer to seat the gasket on top of the impeller housing the old impeller works perfectly
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip. I've seen people leave the tool on there thinking it was actually part of the assembly lol
@hernangotes3380
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac hi can you please tell me the part number for the impeller kit thanks!!!!
Thanks for taking the time to teach this. Excellent job. It made the impeller change a breeze! -- Kev
Good video, well done. Only comment I would make is that rather than using grease on the inside of the pump housing, use dish soap. Some greases will cause the impeller rubber to degrade over time. Dish soap will provide the lubrication you are looking for and wash out the first time the pump is run with water in it.
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It's a good suggestion if you don't have marine grease. I used what is recommended in the manual and by mecruiser. You are correct, petroleum lubes like vasaline can degrade rubber.
This video was perfect for me. The only thing that would've also been helpful is if you showed how to detach/reattach the lower drive piece. That part I had to go find on some other KZread videos. But the replacement of the impeller and the details were amazing and I got mine done. Thank you much!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and putting it back on is tricky .. have to position the shift lever or it won't mate
@ross52066
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Luckily I had a buddy tell me about that shift lever so we were good to go! My wife helped me stick a couple bolts back in so I didn't have to hold it the whole time and then buttoned everything back up, filled it with lower gear oil, then ran it with the muffs on. No problems! Thanks again fro the video!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
@Adam Dirks Pump the oil in from the bottom until it overflows out top hole to remove all air, then fill reservoir. Also good to put a good marine grease like Aquaguard on those nuts so the threads don't lock and easier to remove next time. Glad you gott'd done!
Well done. I would recommend to others you skip buying the extra housing (in most cases) and buy that lower carrier seal below the impeller. Mine started leaking (out the weep hole) with the new fresh thinner oil so I had to take it all part again.
Excellent tutorial... I wish I would have found it earlier.
Great video brother. Really really helpful to those of us that like to do our own work.
STEP # 1 on all DIY videos: TAKE PICTURES! Take them before you dissemble anything at every step of the way. Those pictures may save you a ton guesswork or re-work. Just about everyone has a cell phone these days or has access to one to take nice pictures, so there's really no excuse. Trust me on this one folks. TAKE PICTURES! A picture truly is worth a thousand words. Personally I don't use any sealer on the gaskets on the water pump. The latest kit has a steel gasket for the very bottom, then the contact plate, then another gasket that has sealant already on it (face it up when installing).
@jonparkmac
Ай бұрын
Actually you should take pictures anyway .. regardless of making a DIY video. Also, if you are making a DIY video... then you already have a digital record to refer back too and usually don't need pictures 😉. But yes it's a great point, I do it one way other the other .. especially on intricate projects like carburetors and chainsaws. Thanks for the comment!
I am getting ready to attempt this myself. It will be a first for me but your video helped explain a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video tutorial and your time very much appreciated
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
Figured out what the remaining seal washer was for. Its for the lower oil drain plug. Replace it with the new one, even if you don't think you need to.
@JesterStrike
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly why I was watching the video. I was wondering what those gaskets were for. I had two in my kit. I assume one for the upper vent plug and the other for the drain plug.
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
JesterStrike yes, the upper one is a rubber o ring and it's for the gear oil transfer from upper to lower unit. without it, oil leak and possibly water in oil, both bad.
Great "easy to follow" instructional video. Thank you !
You might check to see if it goes to the magnetic oil screw at the bottom of the unit. They usually send you a crush washer for that.
Wow fantastic video!! Wish I found this two months ago
the o ring is for the gear lube hole between the upper and lower drive units
Excellent video! So clear to understand. Thank you
Great video, thanks for your help Sir.
Liking that stand frame... getting ready to do mine.
Excellent video very detailed in going through the process makes doing the job for a first timer much easier to do.
nice vid, i would not use the grease on rubber though. it eats rubber just like oil dois. use vaseline on the rubber parst like the rings and the impellor itself... and the insite of the housing. the little o ring is for the gear oil channel that runs up to the control container i guess. cheers. happy boating!
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
jelle buyckx Vaseline is probably ok, I used exactly what the manual specifies which is merc marine lube, not grease
@ikkebuyckx
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its probebly ok. I am just always very carefull whit rubbers. I even saw people use dishwashing soap to put on the impeller. Thats a real big no no. :)
@brobins72
5 жыл бұрын
@@ikkebuyckx why is dish soap a big No-No? Grease is a big No-No of any kind. I'm surprised they recommend Grease. Have you ever seen grease and water whipped together? It basically Foams up and expands. It can clog up passages. The dish soap does the same job of helping the impeller slip in the housing and it simply disappears when the water circulates through. Actually have you ever heard of salt Terminator? Guess what it's made of...
@stevieb2564
4 жыл бұрын
My old auto teacher warned all the guys not to use vaseline on rubbers cuz it would deteriorate the rubber and you’d be a daddy!
thank you, very good explanation, i have to do this tomorrow.
That gasket is called quad ring. It provides sealed passage for oil between upper and lower.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
It's was fill screw gasket. The seal you mean is a rubber oring and not a gasket. Thanks tho
The extra gasket is a fiber washer for the lube screw. There should have been 2 of them.
@daytonasunset
3 жыл бұрын
It's what i thought, there's only one in this package though.
@ricardolaureano9839
3 жыл бұрын
I found an area that the o ring fits it's the second groove on the front tube below the first o ring that's where I put mine 😎
Very good video. Thank you for posting
Good job..I know you put ALOT emphasis on the direction of the veins of the impeller.... But it's really not an issue at all...even if you turned the shaft counter clockwise when pushing down the impeller housing, the first time you turn the motor on the impeller WILL correct itself on the very first rotation .....
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know, always wondered about that
Loves to hear himself talk
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, it's you that likes to hear me talk big boy 😉
Excellent tutorial!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Will have to do this one again this year. It's time and I need to do a little fin repair
I have a Mercruiser 260 with a Alpha 1 Gen 2 (I thought anyway). The impeller is much smaller with smaller blades. Maybe I have an Alpha 2 pump kit installed? The boat has run great over 10 years even though it's not taken out often.
Those gaskets are for the drain and fill screws I believe
I made that frame and I love it. Great idea. Question: how do I change the yellow Carrier Assembly? Help?
@robertgray6512
4 жыл бұрын
I remove the yellow part with two long screw drivers - used as pry bars.
thank you! very helpful!
the extra O ring is for the gear lube hole (the hole you covered to prevent debris from entering)
@jonparkmac
7 жыл бұрын
Keith rosipko actually no, it was for the oil fill plug at the bottom, the oil transfer oring is different and already accounted for. g
The gasket you weren't sure of is the case drain plug gasket. Video is good though!
Great video! Helped a ton for my first DIY project. Is it possible to post the specs of the drive holder you made with wood? Thanks.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
I get this a lot. I posted the specs. But it's easy to do with 1 x 2
Thank you. Video of replacing the bellow on alpha one gen 2?
Small gasket at the end of the video if it is black the gear lube port on the side if it is blue it is the oil drain or vent hole
That sling seal seals oil into the top half as well, it will push itself into place when you slide the shaft into the top half won't it?
@jonparkmac
Ай бұрын
Actually no, nothing touches the top of that seal. That's why they provide that plastic tool. It's not for oil, it's to keep water from spraying up into the upper unit and of course keeps pressure up. It's not supposed press down onto the housing very tight. I see people leave the plastic tool in there thinking it's a part lol
Great Video. I have to not only do that, I may have to replace the main shaft seal. Somehow gear oil is coming out of my water pick up holes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for the great video.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah replace the seal on the bearing. Also, there is a small rubber oring for the oil channel between upper and lower units, so make sure it's there.
@DIGOLOGIST
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Thanks.
GOOD TIME TO PRESS TEST LOWER UNIT & O ring go to OIL supply to lower unit!
Did you ever figure out what the extra gasket is for ? I'm thinking maybe the drain plug but who knows....also are there any videos showing that water tube and pocket cover replacement....I'm new to a boat . I like to watch and make sure I do stuff right haha
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was just the lower oil drain plug.
Hi there 👋 by any chance do you remember the size of the glide bolt you use
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
No but take one of the screws to the hw store and match the threads ..then cut the head off with hack saw
@markwhitney5728
Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can let me know the thread pattern when you make your guide bolts?
@markwhitney5728
Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can let me know the thread pattern when you make your guide bolts?
Well done. Very clear. The other rubber seal, I believe goes on the stern drive upper section. At least, I believe I watched another guy place one there. Would that be the oil seal you are mentioning?
Thanks for the detailed video - very helpful! I am in the midst of changing the impeller on my Alpha One Gen 2. When I removed the lower unit from the upper, the entire tube on top of the impeller outlet pulled out from the upper. So I not only had the white plastic sleeve attached, but also a rubber hose of some sort from the upper. Is this normal and can I just press-fit to reinstall that tube into the upper? It appears as though the white plastic sleeve is designed to fit into that rubber hose as the lower is being installed into the upper. Another concern I had was that there was no seal on the main shaft above the impeller housing. It either disintegrated or was never installed (or not installed during a previous impeller replacement by the former owner).
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
The inner tube is actually the water feed and ok to take out and put back in. It has a curve so don't get it backwards or you'll crimp it. The white PVC is only a guide. You want the inner tube up in the upper and white on the lower. Put gear shift in forward and make sure the shift lever sits in the saddle. Also connect the speedometer tube. Use grease on the bolts and nuts. Don't forget the oil oring. It should go together easy no force. Pump oil backwards from very bottom till it comes out top hole, then put top screw in and keep pumping till it comes into reservoir. Small seal above pump housing should be in your kit ..there are orings up in the upper unit. You need the seal or it will spray water up into the upper unit. Grease the splines and little grease on shaft. Don't leave that plastic ring from the kit on the shaft. It's a tool to seat the seal and not a part.
@ChrisG9978
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan! One question on the water feed tube - should the curve go toward the stern of the boat or out toward the prop? Wanted to double-check before I reassemble the lower later today. The other question I have is why can't the gear oil be poured in through the Reservoir on the engine? I understand it's there as an indicator and gear oil can be added through there if it ever runs low, but was confused as to why the gear oil can't be poured back in through that reservoir in the engine. I do have the Quicksilver quart bottle hand-pump however and know that I need a bit more than 2 quarts of gear oil to top it off. I replaced the oil O-ring with the one in the kit, and knew that plastic ring was a tool thanks to your video. I also replaced the orange O-rings inside the plastic outlet that connects to the impeller housing since the kit included them. I always grease the new O-rings before fitting them back in. I put generous amounts of 2-4-C Quicksilver grease on the shaft spline as well as the main shaft, and greased the bolts (I generally do this to prevent future seizing, but you have to be careful torquing them down as grease makes the bolts much easier to torque). I'm not sure which tube is for the speedometer - is it that small black tube on the lower with the O-ring? Otherwise I didn't see any other tubes on the lower.
@ChrisG9978
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Figured it out...tube had to curve inward toward the boat, behind that plastic insert inside the upper housing. Got the lower back in no problem, started the engine, new impeller seems to be working perfectly. Thanks again for the video tutorial!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisG9978 glad to help. The reason you shouldn't just pour it in from the top is because you'll trap air pockets in the oil system and you cannot know where those are. Can lead to a lack of oil when you need it most
Thanks, nice video. I thought you were not supposed to use vaseline or petroleum-based grease on the impeller as install lube because they might not be as safe for rubber. I have used water-based lube (e.g. KY jelly) although it dries kind of fast. You could probably use silicone lube (such as for plumbing seals) also.
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
Best to use what manual says. I used endorsed marine grease by mercruiser. Don't use petroleum like Vaseline as I to will break down rubber.
@chrisaskme811
2 жыл бұрын
I broke a rubber once using KY, now he’s all grown up and helping me with my lower unit rebuild
could someone please provide a link to the kits you or mr mcclure have used? quite a few on the market that all seem to have different components. 1995 alpha 1 gen 2. thank you
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Part number was 154481F. But it was a while ago now.
Excellent video! Could you provide the Quicksilver part# por thr repair kit? Alpha One Gen 2. Thank you!
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Im afraid I gotten this from a supply company that no longer has the part.
What part number, manufacture, and who did you purchased the parts from?
What is the part# impeller kit for this exact gen 2 stern drive?
I need to do my impeller. Can you share the specifics on your lower unit cradle that you made? Thanks
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It'll be a week before I get to it, but basically you build two squares with height 1" taller tgan the length between bottom of rutter and the lower horizontal fin. Then set the prop on those and put 2 cross mbrs on each end to secure it. I drilled and used wood screws.
Great video, thanks. What was the bolt size / thread pitch for the impeller housing "alignment studs"?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall but I took the actual bolts to hw store and matched the threads on a long bolt, then cut the heads off with hacksaw.
@jeffgranger1283
2 жыл бұрын
M6x16x1 is the bolt size
If the shaft spins either way (forward or reverse) why does it matter which direction the impeller fins are placed? they are going to move in either direction depending on if your in drive etc
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
The down shaft always spins in the same direction. Shifter is below the pump to change direction of the impeller shaft at the 90 degree junction joint. In fact I suggest testing that manually just so you learn how the shifter operates
I will be doing this myself not sure I ordered right part. Got part number from serial number on drive.
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Consider replacing the drive seal too android don't bend/pinch the plastic tube that connects to the upper unit. Good luck brutha
Hi just wondering about the yellow dome looking thing under the water pump gaskets. Picked up my rebuild kit the other day and that part was included and I can't find any videos that explain how to remove and replace this part. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That seals the bearing underneath and is not part of the pump assembly. You don't need to replace it unless it's several years old with a lot of hours. And if you do, may as well replace the bearings.
Hey John, I just did impeller, gimbel bearing, a few o rings out everything back together filled with gear oil, took a look and noticed water leaking from top cap of outdrive. I noticed the guide tube was a little cocked. Not sure if that was the problem? Another thing my impeller gasket kit didn't come with 2 paper gasket it was one paper, the plate then a very thin plate?
Great video. Anyone know what gasket sealant he used on the gaskets?
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
No sealant on the housing gasket. Didn't have any sealant from factory and not in solec manual either.
@rubes1688
4 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac you must be mistaken on the question or maybe he worded it wrong but you put on some gasket sealer with a paint brush while putting on the gaskets
@jonparkmac
4 жыл бұрын
No mistake. No need for sealant. The gasket is for adequate pressure and not for absolute leak prevention because both sides are in contact with water anyway. So adding sealant doesn't add any protection or value. Use if you like. Really is unnecessary.
Nice video. What are the inside dimensions of the top of that stand you built? What is it's height.... thanks
The extra gasket is for either the drain plug screw or the vent hole screw.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Drain plug. No such thing as "vent hole"
@gatornation3889
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmacnot sure what out drive you have, but my alpha one gen 2 has a drain/fill plug on the bottom of the skeg and a VENT hole in the upper portion of the out drive. It's the screw you remove when you are filling the outdrive with gear oil that tells you the drive is full....buy an actual Manuel, but please don't stay things that you have no idea to what you speak.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
That's on the upper unit. The pump is in the lower unit so the kit doesn't come with upper unit parts. I have the Manual, but not the 'Manuel' lol
My Chriscraft has a raw water thru-hull intake and belt driven pump to cool the engine. It also has an Alpha 1 outdrive and pump that does nothing...or maybe cool the outdrive? I've never really found out. When running on land, I've always connected two hoses, one for the engine and another for the outdrive. Am I doing this correctly...I've never really found out?
I have the same lower unit and I had to remove it for a skeg repair. However, there is a part that came out of this unit that I cannot see on any parts list I cannot remember how it went in. The part is a white rectangular piece of plastic about 4x3 inches with an X from corner to corner on one side. Anyone know anything about this part?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with out drive
Hey - great really helpfull video. Could you perhaps write the dimensions of the wooden frame you cuild? thanks
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I'll post the dimensions but it'll be a week. Honestly, have a bunch of 1x2 a drill and some wood screws and build it on the spot. That's what I did as sort of a last minute thing.
Nice job
What happens if you forgot to put the sling seal on? should the unit work okay?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I'd think you might loose a little pressure and water will spray inside the compartment. But I don't know if it would cause damage.
Just fininshed my winterization about 2 months which included changing the lower unit gear oil, always a bit messy. Was recently checking my maintenance records and think its time to replace the impeller which was done 3 years ago. Some other videos direct you to drain the lower unit gear oil prior replacing the impeller. Do I need to do this? Seems to me that if I take care to temporarily cover the gear lube transfer hole from the upper supply reservoir I save myself from having to drain and refill the unit. Can you comment. Thank you for a well done video.
@jonparkmac
6 жыл бұрын
nazmen040 good question, definitely drain it. Gear oil is relatively cheap and good to change anyway. Remove the top vent screw, then the bottom and let it all out.
Jonathan, what sealer dod you use for the o-ring on the gear oil passage?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
None. The rubber oring IS the seal.
Talk as you do your work
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
Or even eat as you work, that's what I do
Please tell me in what osition the front controller is in ? Do you squeeze handle and push all the way forward before you start lower drive removal ? Thx in advance.
@jonparkmac
8 жыл бұрын
yes, I put it in forward gear first. You can actually see where the lever mates with shift cradle and see if it detaches. Patience and even downward pressure is key..just don't beat with a metal mallot
@chadpapineau9209
3 жыл бұрын
Is it critically important to put it in gear before taking the lower unit off? I took mine off while gear was in neutral and am worried I might have screwed this up by not putting it in gear....
@scotttuley8347
2 жыл бұрын
@@chadpapineau9209 just put it in gear before putting lower unit back on. It’s nice to have another person helping that can turn prop shaft for alignment.
Do you drain all the gear lube out of lower unit before removing?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Yes or it will come out anyway and make a mess. I empty the reservoir too since it will drain all the way down and takes a while. When you reinstall you have pump the oil backward from bottom to top until it comes out plug in upper unit. Otherwise air trapped, no oil .. bad news.
That little o ring I believe is for the speedo cable did you find out or not because I'm doing mine?
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
It's was actually a seal gasket for the lower drain plug. Technically not a rubber o ring
How does the impeller stay with thhe shaft ? Os there a keyway or is it pressed on with pressure
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
Keyway, it's in the video
Does the impeller move when not in gear as in forward or reverse position it seems like fish after that is turning turns the prop as well and what have to be in gear to turn so how does the engine get water 1 in neutral is it sucking it impeller is only used for when the boat is in motion this might sound like a stupid question but I'm new to boating
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
t's not a stupid question at all. The impeller is always turning so water is always impelled to your engine water pump. The shift tongue on the lower unit moves the gears to be in forward, reverse, and nutral. When you have it off, you can move that tongue back and forth and then twist the shaft to see the prop shaft rotation to see how it works. Your shifter cable connects to that tongue.
@tunercars3
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac I appreciate your reply I was using text-to-speech so that's why there are some typos in there but none the less I sort of figured that but I assumed since the engine has a sea water pump on that would not emotion that would pull from that I made an observation of it not being in motion when it's not and gear because I noticed that the shaft turns and the prop turns with it but it may have just been when the lower unit was taken apart it was put into gear someone that is put back together it goes together correctly
Hello Jonathan. Terrific job on your part. Very helpful for me with my same unit. Can you tell me how long between changing water pump and how will I be able to see your comments after I sign off here. Thank you
@ross52066
3 жыл бұрын
I have had friends recommend just changing your impeller yearly. It's cheap insurance.
Could you provide the alignment bolt thread pitch used in the video please. Thank you.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Been so long I don't know, but just take the orig screw to hw store .. always a thread checker right there .. that is what I did
@ryansimnacher5459
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac thank you, also, I noticed you didn't replace the carrier seal. Is that recommended to be changed also?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryansimnacher5459 most definitely .. I'm doing that right now in fact. I didn't in the vidi only because it was brand new. Use the one made by mercury .. part is 807929A1.
The extra gasket is probably the drain screw gasket
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
It was. The ones in that kit leak. So I now use ones that have thin rubber coating and a tad thicker. I also replace that yellow assembly seal each time now too.
Is your unit a RH propeller version? I'm trying to make sure this impeller I'm working on is facing the correct direction.
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Check the shape of the old impeller .. it will bent in direction
@diydadsht9785
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac Even if the last guy possibly installed it wrong?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
@@diydadsht9785 yes. The engine would have forced it the right way
Why after reinstalling gearshaft housing, my reverse won't engage
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
Check to make sure the shift tab is aligned. I think you have to put the shift in forward position when you mate the lower unit back on to the upper unit. I think you need to take it off, shift, and out it back on.
that washer is for gear oil screw
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. You know tho I ended up using a better thicker one that has a rubber film on it. Way better than the one in the kit.
@shawn_hu
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac That washer better to be good as these are underwater. Thanks for sharing this information
Whats the part number for this kit?
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
I got it from go2marine 154481F but may not be available
Hey I removed lower unit in neutral and then shifted in forward now I can’t get it to shift back in neutral or if I redo it goes to neutral but not reverse please help
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
You'll have to take it back off and orient the shift tongue forward which is FWD. Then put your console shifter in FWD. Then reassemble and put your eyes on the tongue to make sure it mated ok. The shift tongue rotates from strait ahead to one side going thru neutral and reverse ..so it's not left to right ..it's 12, 1, 2 o'clock for fwd, neutral, rev.
@johnm5141
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac how do I align the upper from where I’m at to the right 12-1-2 does shifting cable need to be disconnected?
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Take the unit off and rotate it to 12:00 with your hand ..that's FWD. Play with it by grabbing the shaft with a rag and twist it to see which way the prop is rotating and then move the lever by hand from 1 to 2 and observe how it works. You'll see it change direction. Move it back to 12
@jonparkmac
Жыл бұрын
Also ..don't get that plastic water pump tube in there wrong or it will bend and pinch ..I did that once. Use marine lube on the threads and flange so it will come off easier next time.
@johnm5141
Жыл бұрын
@@jonparkmac the clutch itself I know how to move but it doesn’t line up with the female part in the upper unit
very help full video, can you describe the brand name of the kit and part number? i try to find the same kit but nothing come up complete..
@jonparkmac
6 жыл бұрын
Part is Sierra 18-3570 from wholesale marine. www.wholesalemarine.com/sierra-18-3570-water-pump-kit.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwssvPBRBBEiwASFoVdyU8gPXgMcJj8fQUpxWmQtYoyy1MQIRkSSZx_2z9wVSfkcQbgvz7JxoCjzUQAvD_BwE
@stevieb2564
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Is the 2” thin O-ring in the parts kit for the shaft seal below the impeller housing?
Is it ironic that I'm going to get seasick from him rocking back and forth?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
Lol .. no it just means your a soft bellied green horn ✌️
What impeller kit did you use?
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
New Mercury Mercruiser Quicksilver OEM Part # 47-8M0100527 REPAIR KIT - IMP www.amazon.com/dp/B01BNSZQ9W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_1PVYS50E6BSJRD6NN71Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you 🙏🏻
Where did you purchase the pump kit from?
Anyone make the wooden box stand, and what dimensions? Thanks!!
@jonparkmac
2 жыл бұрын
You guys love that stand. Sorry I don't have dimensions. But you just cut to fit. Take some 1" x 2" pine and just cut it and screw it together. Measure thickest, by width and height on unit, and then add 1" to all 3 for inaide dimensions
the gasket is for your gear case fill bolts and there should be two of them
@mattshackleton340
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I have been searching all of these videos to find what the hell these 2 extra seals were for - hadn't got to refilling oils yet, so didn't see the old ones come out! Thanks.
You never want to keep your old impeller. Rubber gets brittle over time which increases the chances of the impellers lobes to break off. Lube the impeller with a bit of silicon grease, not petroleum based grease which encourages rubber to swell, when installing the new impeller.
@jonparkmac
3 жыл бұрын
You must not have actually watched the video brother. The whole point is to replace it, not reuse it. But thanks for the comment.
That extra gasket goes on the drain plug.
What size were those guide pins you bought?
@jonparkmac
5 жыл бұрын
They were just long machine screws I cut the heads off. I don't recall the size, I just matched the actual screws at the hw store
@AdventureswithGB
5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan McClure thanks. Great idea cause those pins are like 30 bucks.
@stevieb2564
4 жыл бұрын
They are metric 6mm diameter with 1mm pitch