MELTING GOLD (fools gold) START TO FINISH WHAT WILL HAPPEN -PYRITE SMELTING IRON ORE
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I was hoping I could melt some fools gold into an ingot of some form but it turns out Fools Gold aka Pyrite is a mineral not a metal 😳. I'll show from start to finish of what to expect and you'll learn along with me 👍🏻😉
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Ha, now this takes me back to childhood. I clearly remember the day where I took my butane torch pen to a piece of pyrite, I'd have been all of 10 years old. Why do I remember it so vividly? Because after a few seconds of heating, the bloody thing popped. Fragments in all directions, with the lucky exception of my hands. I will never forget the sound of bits twanging off the house windows, and a somewhat increased heart rate. Amazing that something that happened 25 years ago, and probably not thought of since, can be brought flooding back by the chance viewing of a video today. Thanks!
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
No worries my friend I’m glad it jogs your memory. Be sure to watch my other videos who knows what memories they will bring back🤔😁
@lazaglider
5 жыл бұрын
bigstackD Casting Oh I’ve been working my way through the videos for about a week. Don’t know what it is, but there’s something very watchable about this topic. Thanks.
@stratiosastero6880
3 жыл бұрын
when we done it with cube pyrite without crushing this ended in injury,hot chunk of pyrite did hit my face.we used 5cm cubes and one of cubes exploded in half,one of halves pierced the aluminium can and hit on my lips.... third degree burn. 2 weeks of healing. when we used "potato" shaped pyrite rocks the explosions didnt occur at all,there did chunks fly but not so many,after crushing it to dust we were able to melt it partially,pyrite is highly unstable,too heated is exploding like grenade. best is to heat up to red our cruicible,ut the pyrite in,close the cruisible and then keep heating it.
@shallnotbeinfringedamerica1683
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@JAMBI..
27 күн бұрын
The same happened with me,(reminiscing)the days when the lil homies and I would hike the mountains in search for this.
Those where cubic pyrite, try it with the small grain pyrite. First you burn off the sulfides at 900-1000 degress. Then take the powder and add add borax and copperoxide (in a 30% pyrite /45% borax / 25% copperoxide, then Heat it at 1100 degress in a closed crucibel. Use a cone shaped cast to gather all goodies in the bottom. good luck.
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Damn that sounds like a lot of work matey 🤔
@gossumx
4 жыл бұрын
That's great.
@nathanielminnick3043
3 жыл бұрын
You like gold that's how you get gold from pyrite lol
@aijazzakiri1751
3 жыл бұрын
what will be the end result after following your procedure sir?
@calicige4197
2 жыл бұрын
Where I shall find coperoxide?
Thanks for making this video! I was wondering if fools gold melted, and it was very cool that I could actually watch someone smelt it instead of just reading the wikipedia page.
I guess you can't melt ALL your troubles away... still very interesting!
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
yeah paul a bit of a let down but hey it keeps me off the streets;)
This scratched the itch in my brain. 🧠 I swore I thought it would melt like metal
@bigstackD
3 ай бұрын
Yes, I thought so as well👍🏻
Wow, that is intriguing!
YOU SIR HAVE HELPED ME WITH AN ESSAY
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
+ZEN X Also that powder left over is highly magnetic👍🏻
Looking forward to showing this video to my students when we learn about metals, non-metals, metaloids.
@bigstackD
4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome my friend hopefully it will generate a whole class full of new subscribers👊🏻😁
Very interesting, lad. Try adding molten aluminum, copper, tin, zinc and brass to fools gold together makes fools gold as realistic as possible.
Matey, Love you Very Much, May God bless you with more❣️
Very cool, good to know what fools gold will do when cooked. very informative.
Thanks for this video. I was wondering about melting pyrite and found this video.
I just found this video again lol and Im a lot more experiences with chemistry than I was before. I think what you did was actually decompose it into its main components iron and sulfur (hence the smell of sulfur being boiled away) and the oxygen reacted with the iron to form iron oxide (magnetite). Or maybe it didnt form oxide maybe it’s just pure iron
Aww! Was hoping it would melt into a lovely gooey golden goodness. Now I know 🤔
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
🤔mmm , pretty disappointing but yeah atleast we now know👍🏻
@bashkillszombies
4 жыл бұрын
It would if he completed the process, he just didn't know what he was doing. You can get gold out of pyrite. A small amount, but still a neat party trick.
@Victor-056
4 жыл бұрын
@@bashkillszombies It also involves smashing the Pyrite with a hammer, which is actually pretty easy, as it's very brittle.
@stratiosastero6880
3 жыл бұрын
@@Victor-056 i used hydraulic press and crushed 30kg of pyrite for 19g of gold. ..i tried smelt the leftover and managed to melt pyrite a little but yes its turning black if you do it wrong. 1100-1200c is eoungh to hurt pyrite. but you want preheated cruicible then throw pyrite in and continue heating but yes, NEVER USE CUBE pyrite,they will always burn into powder or explode. its worst type of pyrite to try to melt. high sulphur levels and sush...
@aijazzakiri1751
3 жыл бұрын
@@bashkillszombies plz guide how to separate gold from pyrite? procedure?
I wonder if this can be used as a substitute for graphite in molds and crucibles?
What do you think the powder could be used for?
Man you've done it all bro glad to see you got your recognition
Wow that's crazy ! I'd have never expected that result ! Thanks for sharing !
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
No worries my friend I’m glad you liked it👍🏻. Also that powder at the end is extremely magnetic I forgot to show that in the video😁
@OMNIBOT2000
6 жыл бұрын
That's cool ! I'd like to see that magnetism in another video ! It would also be interesting to know how it became magnetic. Sounds like you discovered a way to create magnetic powder. But kind of reminds me of the ink toner powder in old copy machines sticking to a statically charged drum to make photocopy's on paper. :)
Very interesting and informative. 👍
If you put anything made of iron pyrite near an open fire or flame, would it catch on fire instantly?
Thanks for this experiment sir👍
So, running it through the forge burned off the sulfur, weakened the crystals, and left mostly just iron powder behind?
Wow, thanks. Great video.
Is the powder magnetic?
I love so many elements of this video. On the verge of HowToBasic style-wise. The "why" of it seems to be - just to see what happens. Something I would do. Full sleeve tattoo. Nice. Furnace made out of a keg - the cherry on the top.
So is it basically impossible to reforge?
Can this material use for sword ??
I love your videos.
I always wondered about this! Great video! Thanks for sharing:)
@bigstackD
4 жыл бұрын
Well thanks for watching Joe👊🏻😁
@bigstackD
4 жыл бұрын
And if you got a bit of spare time buddy why not check out some of my newer videos I’m sure there’ll be something that you like👌🏻
I was going to try the same thing and then I watched this video. I wonder if you could take the black sand and extrude the gold in it using a centrifuge or acid????
I like these old videos where you experiment with stuff, Big D. Lately it's been a whole lot of copper, aluminum, aluminum bronze and brass. Would love to see you tackle some other metals alloys like actual bronze or more obscure stuff other then 'nordic gold'. Bismuth looks like is a ton of fun to mess with too.
@Drakuba
2 жыл бұрын
might be interesting, but he needs to finish his hoard goal first so...
Well done video. Good job. Basically, Iron Pyrite is useless, right?
Great video, thanks.
I believe that you just created a video for science class. Well done.
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate I appreciate your comment. I’m just disappointed I left out the bit where I checked the powder at the end and it was extremely magnetic , when I was editing I left that bit out accidentally🤦🏻♂️
But if there was 2000 or 3000 degrees, than steel can not melt them to condition of liquid?
Not what I expected very cool
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hear ya matey , I was pretty disappointed myself but I’ve never seen a video where they actually show the whole process so had to do it myself but disappointed as I would’ve loved To have a fools gold ingot it’s a shame that’s not possible. Also that power at the end was extremely magnetic but I accidentally edited that bit out👍🏻
Thank u I was wondering what would happen if u melting the fool gold.
I love your videos cuz you don’t show crap that doesn’t have to do with the video
Interesting video Mr
question answered at least - thumbs up
Would using borax help?
thank you this video answered a lot of questions.
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always wondered myself . Also all that powder that was left is highly magnetic. 👍🏻
I found it amazing how the crucible was glowing past red... almost a yellow white - but still has strength to be tapped on brickworks -- entertaining even if the result wasn't to be expected - keep up the videos mate as always!
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
+Pillobird cheers buddy👍🏻. I am aware that any sharp blow or tapping of really any kind of crucible is asking for trouble especially a glowing hot one but I had me protective stuff on and didn't care if it shattered . Might have looked cool?
@pillobird
7 жыл бұрын
as long as your looking after yourself mate
Do you have a video of the pirate key? (Goonies)
Wow thats crazy I didn't know anything about fool's gold....
Thank you for posting this so I didn't waste my time and fuel. I guess it makes sense.
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped matey 😁👍🏻
So, if I heat the pyrite sand particles with an open flame, it pops. Will gold do the same thing, or will I end up with remaining gold particles while the pyrite will have blown out of the ceramic cup? Just asking... I have dirty gold ore with pyrite and quartz. Did the muriatic acid bath and removed the magnetic particles. The remaining ore is still very dirty. Any suggestions?
@FlaminTubbyToast
5 жыл бұрын
You'll need aqua regia to get the gold.
Very interesting.
Thanks. Indeed to see this one. Can I request a generic video on fluxes?
Neat, would you smelt the powder and turn them to iron bars or something?
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I can’t even get my furnace close to hot enough to melt iron . That’s around 1530°C I think . My furnace only gets around 1200°C👍🏻
Thanks for sharing
Amazing
I always wondered, now I know..... 👍
Cheers my friend... another new video... and new idea...!
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah bit of a disappointment but at least now I know why you never see fools gold bullion or ingots😉
I read that one has to crush the pyrite and combine it with carbon powder. When the mixture is heated, the sulfur combines with the carbon, leaving the iron free.
hmmm? iron and sulphur separated? any chance of a spectrometer test on the powder?
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
i wish i had 1 of those that would be great. Im in no way an expert and for all i know there could still be 50/50 iron sulfur mix in the end result ,i just say it as i see it my friend;)
First, 4FeS2+11O2=2Fe2O3+8SO2 Also, since you closed the lid, after the oxygen in there all reacted, the rest of the pyrite became Iron and sulphur: FeS2=Fe+2S That’s also why the black powder you got is highly magnetic.
I've got a piece the size of a golf ball in my truck all time I do feel some something?🤔
Educational
4:04 Perhaps you could cast a pestle for grounding up stuff like this in the future
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
maybe one day buddy . I do have a ceramic one in me kitchen but ill get in trouble if i used that in my shed. 😁
So, is this why you don't melt iron (minus the sulfur stench, of course)?
thank you. I also did all these procedures and the end result was nothing just black powder.
Yeah wow, I have been saving up my pyrite that I will crush and send, I have no clue on melting, but I think it needs to be roasted before actually melted, i know my pyrite has gold 😊
Nice
Let down at the end, but extremely interesting. Wonder what happened chemically? Sulfur just evaporated & left the raw iron behind? Wonder how it forms naturally if this is the case when it's heated.
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
god knows mate ? for all i know there could still be a heap of sulfur left in the powder, i just say it how it looks to me.Im usually wrong but my vids arnt very popular so i wont be upsetting too many people if i get it wrong ;)
@SkylordJoe
6 жыл бұрын
From what I know this stuff can only be made in environments without oxygen
@shaggy_e210
6 жыл бұрын
RealRuler2112 I'm guessing it left iron oxide behind because the sulphur has a lower burning temp?
@ChrisTheGregory
6 жыл бұрын
At a guess, the FeS2 underwent thermal decomposition into iron (II) sulfide and elemental sulfur, which then oxidized into sulfur dioxide.
how much the value of that pyrite (fools gold).?
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
To me It’s basically worthless. People sell it on eBay but I think it’s just bought for the novelty of owning some Fools gold. It’s quite cheap if you want just a little bit for yourself on eBay👍🏻😁
Is the iron ore powder magnetic?
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
+Blast Wave Sure is matey I just checked it. Extremely magnetic 👍🏻
That's cool it looks like black sand
Very entertaining if not quite what you planned for :)
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was hoping the iron ore would go molten but i was way off. i have been told the powder once heated up to around 1540 Degrees Celsius will become molten but my furnace cant get that high not without a 2nd burner atleast.
Never seen that before. 👍
Those rocks look like the same they use on older railroad tracks
Will commenting on all 250+ vids get me a solid chance in the giveaway? I love your videos 😁😎. Ingot is my favorite pupper on the tubes!
I tried to hammer a piece once and it just exploded into dust and very small pieces.
The reason the fools gold was popping is because of the liquid/moisture in the mineral it's self. Since the moisture is trapped in there it pops. Same thing with salt
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
Ok cool I had no idea👍🏻
@leprechuan9393
6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the sulfer
@dannyt2951
6 жыл бұрын
It was actually the sulfur durrr
@xxlegolas
5 жыл бұрын
Fool's Gold, AKA Pyrite, AKA Iron (II) Disulfide is anhydrous: there's no water in its structure at all. It's popping because of the release of Sulfur Dioxide gas as the ore is heated, leaving behind a non-homogeneous Iron slag (Elemental Iron, Iron Oxides, and probably some remaining Iron Sulfides, though not many). It's also possible that soot created from incompletely-burned fuel has been left behind, though that's not very likely since this furnace appears to have extra air injected to increase the burn temperature.
@mindofmadness5593
5 жыл бұрын
@@bigstackD that's no fun-do you realize how many things on the Streets there are to melt? Copper and Aluminium power cables, street signs, cars and people? [[Some of them have Gold Teeth you know-use the leaf blower to send their ashes into the wind]], as Paul would say "HEAT! FIRE! XCHAOS!"
sulphur smell was caused by the sulphur in the FeS2
where do you get those white dishes
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
Ebay my friend the links below 👍🏻 www.ebay.com.au/itm/282268189355 Quartz Melt Dishes Pot Crucible Casting for Gold Platinum Refining White
Cool video man. Appreciated!
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers matey thanx for watching 👍🏻
@natertater4024
5 жыл бұрын
It sure wasn't what I expected at all to be honest.
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah me either and I couldn’t find fools gold melting anywhere on youtube so thought ide do it myself🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
This is actually how you can collect sulfur. Put a bunch of fool's gold in a pot, connect it to another pot with a pipe and then superheat the fool's gold until all the sulfur heats out of it, leaving behind only iron! End result is two very useful elements instead of a single seemingly useless one.
Fools gold is actually pyrite which forms in cubes big chunks are really cool
Nice video. I have heard there is gold in pyrite's? I keep tossing my pyrite's. Am I tossing away gold? I have truck loads of pyrite's. Nice forge set up.
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly mate i have no idea but if there is that would be great , Maybe do some more research before you throw any more out👍
@1hardman161
6 жыл бұрын
Just had a guy from Tennessee email me, called refractory ore. Pyrite and sulfides. It depends on the quartz, not all has gold content. He said you crush real fine and there is roasting flux at 1,000 degree, then smelt. So guess I got to look into this. Do a small amount to see.
@jochew
6 жыл бұрын
migel reyas Sell some to me.
I reckon you synthesised magnetite from your pyrite using the process of calorgenation: imbuing the composition of the rock mineral with the surrounding 'air' using heat. The surrounding air replaces the lost sulphur. Understandable why iron pyrite is not magnetic before heating yet after heating it is very magnetic. I notice also the pyrite was unable to be poured from the crucible so was not imho molten. All good stuff nevertheless.
@bashkillszombies
4 жыл бұрын
Calorgenation? You mean reduction and oxidation. Half of the process used to extract gold from pyrite. The only instance of the word 'calorgenation' on the entire internet stems from your channel, which appears to be full of pseudoscientific woowoo and nonsense.
@PeterPete
4 жыл бұрын
@@bashkillszombies nooooo Calorgenation is a process by which a substance is imbued by the srrounding 'air through heat! Think of heating a metal in an environment filled with nitrogen. The substance will be imbued with nitrogen - can't be down to oxidation because there is no oxygen in that environment!
Very interesting. Would have been a cool ingot if it had melted into liquid.
I just wonder if bring the temperature up to Iron smelting temperature would make an ingot. Might have to use a sealed crusable. If I had the equipment I would try it.
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
+wolfman887 yeah I'm thinking it might but my crucibles are rated to 1500 degrees Celsius and I'll be going a bit higher than that to melt it. I have the powder set aside so maybe at a later date it's something I can look at. It would be pretty cool turning powder into an ingot.👍🏻
@wolfman887
7 жыл бұрын
bigstackD that would be wonderful to watch. Might be able to make somthing useful out of it if the ingot takes.
Wow....some of that is worth some good money man! Especially in crystal form. Some people crush it first then roast it and THEN smelt it (with a cone shaped mold!) And what you're left with can be a nice little picker of real gold. Just be careful what kind of pyrite it is. Some have arsenic and you have to be very careful not to breath any fumes in! Happy hunting buddy!
No one has said that per Wikipedia FeS2 decomposes into FeS + S at ~ 540 C yet?
You could try and use it for thermite. I'm sure you have access to aluminium dust...
@bigstackD
5 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm interesting 🤔
Cool! It’s black sand!!!
Looks like Some kind of Ayurvedic Medicine 😁
I see we're having the same thing for dinner.
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
well im having steak tonight👍
Got to do a second try with chemicals and acid and all that good stuff
Always use a conical mould, that way if there's any gold present it'll collect at the bottom. The gold amount in iron pyrite is like 0.01% to 0.25% by weight so it's not really worthwhile. Edit: My bad, I thought you knew what you were doing. You got half way through reduction, but never continued on to extraction to get gold out of it. (For those curious this is how it's done; watch?v=AfDKQus3qfE )
@bigstackD
4 жыл бұрын
nah matey if you see any of my vids i dont know bugger all about this stuff but i still make some cool shit👌😁
You oxidize it first and then you reduce it with flux.
I love experiments and this is a good one! Now we know that we shouldn't use pyrite in casting of some stuff.... :) It's interesting if this mineral exploded because of moisture or something else.
@bigstackD
7 жыл бұрын
kleadus gaming said and i quote ''The reason the fools gold was popping is because of the liquid/moisture in the mineral it's self. Since the moisture is trapped in there it pops. Same thing with salt" . An interesting experiment if nothing else ;)
@DuralMetalurg
7 жыл бұрын
Cool. I thought the same. :)
Okay so I had something interesting happen with pyrite. I thought it was meteorite and mostly iron, so in a crucible I put old drill bits and some bits of 1095 and a chain. I crushed it up and used it as iron powder, then added some graphite and then crushed glass so its air tight. The steel didn't melt, but the pyrite actually did, and fused to the steel. It is incredibly beautiful but I don't know if the iron is pure, i've yet to work the pieces yet.
@kamelsamer5768
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I was looking for a quick solution to convert lead into golden lead by transferring the paint of pyrite to lead. By the way gold and silver are mix of lead + copper + sulfur, that clarify why gold is resistant to acids and alkalis. it also explain the softness of gold.
The black powder is probably the same stuff that you find when panning for gold. I’ll bet it’s magnetic. It’s a type of iron oxide
@bigstackD
6 жыл бұрын
Sure is mate very magnetic I forgot to show that in the video 👍🏻
It’s a fools errand. Lol
Sometimes you just have to experiment. Hey I would have tried it.
Sharing video to facebook.
Should have panned it out just to be thorough ....ya never know what if there is fine gold hidden in it?
I wish you'd been able to cooperate with a chemist, like Cody from CodysLab.