7 months later Melle Mel still bitter now hating on eminem.

@angelrosario626

3 ай бұрын

Melle Mel is in a fog from steroid use. You heard!

This conversation is definitely needed. This show really keeps hip hop alive

@duffman1876

2 жыл бұрын

I agree,I'm a 90's baby that got into hip hop late 2000's😅 I'm always down to learn🍻🍺

@jimmymack4199

2 жыл бұрын

R.I.POWER A SUN UNIQUE ALLAH WU 4(CULTURE)!!!

@youngc1mission

2 жыл бұрын

@PHARAOH SPEAKS OVER THE TOP IMPRESSIONS hip hop could never die, its “OUR” culture

@fiveonthebeat4654

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely does! We as a culture need to take the influence away from the industry period. They breed fools and fools leading fools= more fools. We need our OG’s and all the wisdom they have as well as we need more unity

@ironlung_era

2 жыл бұрын

Naw, that's a fact bro. Hoffa been silently killing them with success. He deserves his flowers NOW

Melle Mel definitely has a lot of bitter energy. It’s probably partly justified, but that energy is never good-especially when you don’t see guys like Rakim (who came slightly afterwards) act like him.

@quanbrooklynkid7776

2 жыл бұрын

He needs help

@stephenheath8465

2 жыл бұрын

That is why I fuck with Caz more than Mel.When Caz went to Drinks Champ he showed mad love to the new cats

@FinessedAnalyzer

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenheath8465 yup, when I saw Melle Mel go out and slander Rakim for no reason I completely did away with him. That kind of bitterness is sickening

@poetparagraph

2 жыл бұрын

He's not bitter, he just didn't like the fact that 90s rappers were being used to push negativity and degenerate lifestyles to the youth....for instance being on drugs, being an alcoholic, disrespecting women, and destruction.

@FinessedAnalyzer

2 жыл бұрын

​@@poetparagraph His comments about Rakim and KRS-One were even more disparaging than his ones on the 90s and after rappers. Anyone who came after him and received more props than him is worthy of slander in his eyes. That's being the voice of bitterness instead of reason, which an elder like him should be.

Meth mentioning Melly Mel shows how real and in tune he really is‼️💯

...and a year later, Mel showed us... that he was a one hit wonder that stuck in the 80's.. Meth is 10 times the emcee.. Mel just got there first.

@MisterB2eternity

Ай бұрын

Actually he had more than one hit.

B/c it’s a distinctly fatherless culture. Real legacy, culture and history is passed down in families around the dinner table and on road trips. Not from watching MTV and BET. Elders aren’t respected b/c the concept of being “fathered” is lacking in the culture tremendously.

@smoothmcfadden8321

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis and food for thought!

@michelleowens3998

2 жыл бұрын

Food for thoughts 🤔

@MMM0824LA

2 жыл бұрын

Big Facts!!!

@KtotheG

2 жыл бұрын

I rebuke the matriarchy... but we have a lot of simps and son-husbands who uphold and enforce these broads phuckery.

@blankplank2181

2 жыл бұрын

Bars

Nas & ASAP Rocky single is a perfect example of how it takes Visionaries to move beyond the Execs.

The title perfectly sums up why the o.g.s don't retain nearly the same respect as old heads in other genres of music. Unlike Melle Mel, Method Man IS one of those older dudes who continue to be respected and everyone knows why that's the case.

This is Math's strong point. Make sure the guest has time to gather his/her thought👍👍👍

@lesson6053

2 жыл бұрын

EGG ZACK LEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Melle Mel need to see this ASAP. Because sometimes he comes on peoples platform like a major hater. I mean I don’t agree will the billboard top 50 rappers or MC’s list. He just seems bitter on all rappers after him. Method Man is right about him.

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Correct

Hope you get Redman on soon.. Reggie one of the only rappers in the game that always went back to his hood and is loved by his whole city. Dudes on the other side of Newark got stories of Redman coming through showing/receiving love

@6thbr871

2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching the beef dvd back in the day and they was talking about having security and entourage’s. Redman was like “I ain’t worried about none of these MFS mannn, I walk with god, word up” 😂😂😂

@brooklynboiprod

2 жыл бұрын

He had mad love in Queens Bridge too when he was living there and I'm sure he still does

Salute to Method man. He’s a phenomenal interview. He articulates his points well, and resonates with people. We need more interviews with him

@stephonlamar1815

2 жыл бұрын

METHOD MAN'S A BUM‼️He was scared of Joe Budden, that's why he got him beat up, to OVERSHADOW the fact that He would've BODIED HIM on LIVE RADIO and METHOD Man would've lost that Aura about him‼️

@bigA-cy3he

11 ай бұрын

You're right

If there was poster for bitterness Melle Mel's face needs to be on it! End of Chat😤

@dassolosyndikat5113

2 жыл бұрын

Without him there's no rap you herb

You guys are definitely making an impact. 15 hours ago Beyonce's mother acknowledged the apology given by Meth.. Conversations are always engaging. My eyes and ears are glued for the entire time. You never know what lessons you're going to learn from these conversations. Much respect to all the gentlemen in the room and all the artists and guest appearances that you have on the show.

@benjamintribe4652

2 жыл бұрын

People are watching that means Math's platform is glowing up fr fr!!!👍🏾✊🏾👊🏾💪🏾🙏🏾👑💎🔥🗽💯

@osiosheku8845

2 жыл бұрын

. As a ex

@Jayisinvisible

2 жыл бұрын

I hope they gave it up to Math’s platform when these journalists are repeating this story!

@lesson6053

2 жыл бұрын

nnnnnniCE!🙏🏽👍🏽👊🏽💚

@m.m4982

2 жыл бұрын

@Soca-Samuel The Red Indian method man was in a bad mood at some awards show. He tried to say hi to destiny's child. Apparently they didn't hear him or acknowledge him. Later that night, someone introduced them to him and they were nice and tried to shake his hand. In that moment he thought they were just acting as if they didn't purposely ignore him so he refused to shake their hand and was rude. It wasn't til later that he figured they probably didn't hear him the first time.

Melle Mel still doing that hater ish to this day, talking crazy about old heads too now

@seancagney8897

Жыл бұрын

When he dissed Nas he was crossing the line IMO, he just sounds bitter at this point that other rappers get more respect then he does and are higher on some "lists" people make like Billboard.

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Sad but true

Never heard melle mel speak positively about any rapper after him accept for pac and I know pac showed him alot of respect and also was trying to help him get a record deal in 96 before he was killed

@mostmost1

2 жыл бұрын

Mel comes from a battle rapper from the 70s mindset. A diss from him is a compliment. 😆

@mikegillins4992

2 жыл бұрын

@@mostmost1 I don't see caz and mo dee doing that and they from the same era

@generalinformation3507

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 56 years old so I remember a time when every rapper or rap group was compared to melly Mel and the furious 5. When the message came out the record label instead of paying them gave them mopeds. So Mel has been bitter for a very long time about rappers he feels are not as skilled as he was making more money than he did. And I totally agree

@mostmost1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikegillins4992 they both his children. He inspired them to rhyme. However his arrogance is no excuse. Caz is smooth and Moe's Dee is a great thinker. They moved on from 79. Mel ain't moved on he don't wanna pass that crown.

@KtotheG

2 жыл бұрын

@@generalinformation3507 That's his fault. LL came out in '85, about a decade or so after Melle Mel, and he was able to keep himself relevant and market his talents to sustained wealth to this day. I don't like hearing crying broke dudes. Get out there and get it. A lot of BP just don't want to compete. They want shit handed to them.

Method dropping tons of jewels on this interview. Great job Math.

This aged like fine wine. RIP Melle Mel Kids have no respect anymore, unless their parents reel them in. Believe it or not this is almost entirely due to a lack of parenting. A good example is NLE Choppa. That kid has given endless respect to the OG's. What makes him different? His moms taught him to respect his elders. His mom grew up on the OG's and put NLE on.

I can listen to Method Man talk all day he keep it real like he's a legend I love this podcast y'all keeping it real

@EnlightenedCAFE

2 жыл бұрын

Werd

It’s a two-edged sword. The younger generation don’t feel respected by their elders and is often told they have to earn that respect. Meanwhile, the elders expect that respect because they’ve laid the foundation. That much is true, but it’s hard to respect a person that shows you no regard, even if they made it possible for you to do what you do. For example, a teacher has gone through years of schooling, countless hours of studying to become a professor. They deliver the educational material to their class in a certain way. In what is viewed by their colleagues as one of the best ways to deliver the material. Still, if this professor spends a large chunk of their time criticizing and ostracizing former students who are now teachers, for finding a different way to deliver the material to a new generation, even if it’s not the exact way it was taught to them by said instructor, there will be no acknowledgement of the original instructor as the new instructor will feel undermined and slighted. But if that original professor shows respect for that former student’s ability to adapt the material and still make it work for them (not necessarily having to like or agree with the method rather than accepting and respecting that it’s just a different method), it would make it easier for the former student to reach out to the original professor to build. Instead, the original professor calls the former student’s teaching method trash.

@eddied6807

2 жыл бұрын

Yo this example is legit spot on💯

@jamaalhorton2343

2 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent point!! But fuck the younger generation they not as talented, fundamentally sound, and don’t listen!

The problem is a multi faceted one. When the respect for financial gain, earning potential and how much you’ve already made is greater than the respect for those that paved the way for you, we end up here - at a gap that seems unbridgeable. Great show Math. Continued success to you and yours.

@bluecollar825

2 жыл бұрын

Well put. I never heard it put like that. It is hard to listen to someone who your way richer than.

@chriswatson425

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks @@bluecollar825 . Pride and Ego won't allow it. There's the rub. If one did listen, the jewels would or could be invaluable.

@chriswatson425

2 жыл бұрын

@Vevo Music ➐ This isn't my type of vibe. I'll pass. Good luck on your endeavors.

@niccomakk

2 жыл бұрын

Good point and your exactly right we revere money and status over impact cause if your not rich your not relevant!

@adgee5401

2 жыл бұрын

It’s goes hand and hand with the age of attention with social media.

Being a producer from the 90s , this really hit home for me.

I've met Melly Mel on a few occasions and I agree he is quite arrogant

@mosthatedny2243

2 жыл бұрын

He go to my gym dude cool but he def hate on the younger artist I never heard him shout out artists after him

@antoniohoward981

2 жыл бұрын

@@mosthatedny2243 that why Willie D knock him out in the ring

@johntucker4056

2 жыл бұрын

Iv met melle mel before and I know some dudes close to him listen he had a message when he came out he wanted to send the positive message with his raps! Now all he hears is murder death killl drugs murder murder. So his ignorant because he wants better for his people? We are so numb and lost as a black race to negativity we don’t want a change we cry and moan but really we love it we love being ignorant and dumb

@onceagain6184

2 жыл бұрын

@@johntucker4056 You can't be serious but if you are work on your reading comprehension !

@johntucker4056

2 жыл бұрын

@@onceagain6184 let’s talk about it!! What is it that I am saying that’s wrong! I was born in the 80s I seen how hip hop went left! Nwa ice t etc was on some gangster vibe then the rest was history! That was never melle mels plan lyrics was alll about talking about the struggles in the hoods period

I love these types of conversations and perspectives. They are definitely needed to keep Hip Hop Alive!

Im just here to show my appreciation for Method Man, I got to meet him and Redman in person a few years ago in Barrie Ontario, it was a pre-show meet and autograph session, my GF and I were the very last in line, and despite likely being bored and tired of meeting fans, Method Man was real cool to us and he gave me this big autograph with the Wu-Tang Logo and wrote down "Whateva Man" after I requested it, Redman was pretending like we didnt exist but Method Man was real cool and posed for our picture with us, Just wanted to show some appreciation for that.

This was one of the realest conversations I've seen by far on this platform, keep doing ya thang Math💪🏽💪🏽👑

I’m 20 and appreciate old school and still listen to new stuff that’s good I fw old school most def

“Kool Herc ain’t never get a royalty check” -Black Thought

One thing alot of older hip hop heads gotta understand is respect is a 2 way street. You can't call everybody trash and shit on their generation but then expect to receive and get love and respect from them. The generation gap is a issue not only in hip hop but in our community overall.

@gweah7821

2 жыл бұрын

This is so true. I love Method Man, I deeply love his music and what he represents, I love how humble he was during his whole career, and I love how articulate he is in these interviews. However listening to these type of conversations, I can definitely understand how the newer generations might feel. Yeah, it goes both ways.

@TisGOBBLEdeGOOK

Жыл бұрын

When you disrespect and poison the game you don't deserve respect. Nobody has to accept your world view

@hooptastic_hippie8522

Жыл бұрын

well said

@shawnhudson6649

Жыл бұрын

@@hooptastic_hippie8522 thank you it needed 2 be said.

@Ijbvfknnn

Жыл бұрын

​@@TisGOBBLEdeGOOK literally goes both ways as bro said

Wow this aged incredibly well😂

Math you came a long way. Meth lowkey your acting skills on power makes me want to become a lawyer

Math!!!! This content is needed so desperately. Watching/listening to educated brothers speak so much knowledge is a welcome change. Keep feeding us positive energy brother. Shout to the whole crew!!!!

DIVIDE AND CONQUER ON A HIGHER LEVEL

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

Math y’all content is needed and appreciated!!! Y’all killing everybody!!!!

Hip-hop fans call you old at 30 and washed up. Country singers and Rock roll artists still be popping at 75 years old and their fans still support. 🤔. Shit crazy AF.

@freddavis5978

2 жыл бұрын

2 chains came up in his 30’s, jay z went platinum multiple times after age 30

@jman1562001

2 жыл бұрын

Keyword: FAN SUPPORT You got to keep your core fanbase or they move on. Rap Fans be fickle as hell if you ain't coming correct and that's for every artist, no exception, you have to show and prove every time out. Standing on legacy will only take you so far. Just look at jay z and nas.

@chrisrobinson8339

2 жыл бұрын

Right and most rapper's don't get popping until 26ish

@ALexander-ue3kj

2 жыл бұрын

@@jman1562001 Well Nas fell over after God's Son and made a great comeback with KD1.

@RenoAproblem

2 жыл бұрын

@@freddavis5978 Absolutely right. Which Doesn't happen to often nowadays.

Melle Mel is the biggest old school hater

Really feel like this channel lives up to the content. True expert opinions and information. I really appreciate all the work you guys do 💯

I love how this show has evolved!!! HOFFA... you're on your way

It’s a disconnect with the young and the old. No respect for each other. The old think the new is wack. The new thinks old is lame.

Really dig the mature, intelligent exchanges. Keep the bangers coming, Math. Cats like Meth and Joey Crack never ever disappoint and always keep it a buck. Salute…

A lot of the pioneers mad cuz they didn't get the type of money the newer generation getting & they blew theirs & not being look to for advice & acknowledgment 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jman1562001

2 жыл бұрын

Caz signed his publishing away to hank and hank capitalized. Imo that is on him. Melle Mel got jerked by the Robinson family. Moe dee lost the battle to LL and dint recover musically. Mc shan git jerked and def became bitter after labels no longer supported. The pioneers all have their stories and I think Math needs to bring them on these shows to express themselves as well.

@ALexander-ue3kj

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@stephenheath8465

2 жыл бұрын

Caz ain't mad.Caz big up the newer heads over the years.He was on Drink Champs not to long ago and He was up on eveything currently with the game,but I understand where Mel is coming from though

@Bcilloz

2 жыл бұрын

Money isn’t the issue. I think it’s the fact that the youth don’t respect the history or the culture of Hip Hop. The issue has been about the material being put out by the youth. It’s been seen as lazy, dumbed down, and without substantial content plus it all sounds the same. My personal gripe with it is similar in that how can these young bucks call themselves artist and they all look and sound exactly the same. In Hip Hop , the goal is to outshine the competition when your own the mic and staying true to yourself and your art form. It’s hard to do this if your copying what another artist do which is something mumble rap does a lot.

Great conversation...with that being said...get some of the younger rappers on here! That 21 interview was dope!

Respect the history and culture. Back in the 90’s we respected the 80’s rappers and music. We used to buy old school mixtapes. Flex would do old school mixes, Fat Joe had a song called dedication, Nas where are they now? Pac had a song dedicated to the pioneers.

@Bcilloz

2 жыл бұрын

What more can I say, I wouldn’t be here today, if the old school didn’t pave the way! Talkin bout the old school- 2Pac

@elijahstraight402

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bcilloz That was actually sampled from Grand Puba while still with Brand Nubian, but we get your point

As much as I love hip hop, Ice T said it best in a recent interview. The first word in the genre is "hip" and you can't be older and be that. One of the most profound statements from a legend. Unfortunately our culture was birthed during a time where we had fatherless children due to oppressive circumstances (prison, crack, violence, gangs, government incentives to keep men out the household,etc). In some ways it's a reflection of itself...

@stayready4017

Жыл бұрын

3 Stacks said that over 7 years ago.

@biguglymandoll

Жыл бұрын

Not facts at all, bein hip aint about being young its about understanding. You can be old and do that

@Savage_to_Sage

Жыл бұрын

Hip came from Hep or Hepicat a Wolof term meaning in the know or you know what's up and Cab Calloway used that term in the 30's... Then Miles Davis (that cat is hip or that's a hip cat) from the Bebop era... Then Hippies, Hip Hop and Hipsters....

@mumuseer87

11 ай бұрын

@@Savage_to_Sagegood break down of the word.

@Savage_to_Sage

11 ай бұрын

@@critiqueeverything3297 If that were true then y'all should have been true Griots and shared that info with the rest of us...

THIS SHOW NEEDS TO BE ON TV OR STREAMING BROADCAST LIKE DRINK CHAMPS-LOVE THE KNOWLEDGE BEING KICKED AND THE NO FILTER QUESTIONS

@jonathancoleman6482

Жыл бұрын

I like it how it is like a underground feel too it

Because Hip Hop, unlike rock, was built upon competition. Giving flowers in a competition isn't always easy. Also, people who barely understand hip hop history can become rappers with little to no studying. You dont get that with musicians; studying those who came before you is a fundamental foundation. But I think Hoffa and Meth are spot on, too.

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Very valid point

Great conversation. Very needed.

Great convo. Great edit. Great show. Great people. ☝🏽💯

When the next generation after Melle was coming up family was basing and missed out on a lot of opportunities. I think he's bitter about what HE did and never learned how to express it. He's in my top 5 because he's the archetype for all MCs

I rock with and appreciate every era of hiphop . This convo was fire

Conversations as these is Why I want to build fam . Good one

Fiyah so many jewels and gems dropped!!!👍🏾✊🏾👊🏾💪🏾🙏🏾👑💎🔥💯

This was the realest conversation of that interview 💯

Melle Mel is the "mad rapper" who Biggie and Puff were mocking on Life After Death.... notice how Mel celebrates Pac over Biggie. He disses Big, even in death. That's why I'm glad Willie D knocked him seriously. Dude 70 years old and still dresses like a 20-something in 2003.

@legendary9689

2 жыл бұрын

He dress like 50 cent 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I think 50 is low-Key his favorite rapper cuz he definitely took his swag on how he dressed like you said he just like it’s 2003

@erichawkins7305

2 жыл бұрын

If he celebrated pac how is he a mad rapper then.

@KtotheG

2 жыл бұрын

@@erichawkins7305 He's mad about not blowing up and making money like all the other rappers who came after him. The only rapper I ever heard him praise is Pac and it's not like Pac is the only rapper who has ever paid him homage.

@KtotheG

2 жыл бұрын

@@legendary9689 😁😁... I mean, he's a Boomer. You would think he would dress more like the '70s, which is his generation's heyday... not the '90s or '00s, which is GenX and Millennials heyday

@legendary9689

2 жыл бұрын

@@KtotheG Lol bro I just found a interview where Melle Mell said 50 is nice imma send you the link see I told you I can tell he likes 50 cent just by the way he dress.

THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION RIGHT HERE.

Thanks for the intelligent conversation gentlemen 👊🏽

Love this channel! To the point that this is my new favorite channel. There's so many things/topics that you guys touched on, that I've actually lived & have gonna thru. Thanks so much, for not only keeping everything a buck, but for also giving heads the BTS [behind the scenes] happs on the hip hop game on what it takes to make the machine work, the collabos, etc. Lastly, thanks for keeping everything 100% authentic. Keep up the great work guy's

Old Rappers are Defensively Jealous.

Really appreciate this conversation.

These older rappers failed to adapt to the evolution of rap, yet they point fingers at the younger generation bc they're more relevant.

42 year old Hip Hop head here I will keep listening to the older MCs as long as they keep making great music.

@DutchWeazel

2 жыл бұрын

There's a couple of rappers I'm listening to (who are younger than me), but most of 'em are in their late 40s and 50 something. Well Some are in their 60s hehe I assume Hip Hop will be fine in the future 🔮

Been on you on smack , but when I heard that outro , hoff gang , oh my God, straight to spotify , everything in rotation now G , love fam good positive shit G , keep doing ya thang

Ticaaaal, I love this show, I really enjoy these in-depth barbershop talks about hip Hop......

Older rap dudes do hate on younger rap dudes, the same way New York hated on the SOUTH.

Without No community there’s no respect for community. It’s a deep problem.

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

Very good content guys !! Big ups from Paris !! ESH

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Especially the break down of the Label focus on the $_$ not the artist

This was 8months ago ? Either way it's mad relevant seeing how Melle Mel is literally discrediting rappers that were over him on that list of all time rappers. Lmao

Probably the most authentic podcast in relations to our culture . 💯

🤯MG . .. imagine Melle Mel as the next guest on this jawn' !!!!!

The hate is real with some old school hip hop legends hating on new school rappers today,it's 50 years the culture survives let's show love for all MC's who contributed to hip hop

There was a time I didn’t rock with Hoffa…The brotha has surprised me. This show is so Hip Hop it’s crazy. Respect Math !

Lmao I done seen some Melle Mel interviews and he definitely be shitting on everyone

@AbrahamPalmer-wj5cb

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

I say this all the time…our folks are “old school”, their folks are “legends and classic”

This episode made me subscribe. I’ll definitely support you now. Thank you.

Melle Mell Said: - He'll Beat Eminem Easily. - Jay Z Is Overrated. - Biggie Not An All Time Great.

@6thbr871

2 жыл бұрын

He also said run dmc was the begging of the end of real hip hop lol

@MrWARBUCKS24

2 жыл бұрын

@@6thbr871 that’s because RUNDMC didn’t wear the boots spikes and feathers

@antoniohoward981

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrWARBUCKS24 that why Willie D knock melle mel out

@bigj6706

2 жыл бұрын

All 3 statements are FALSE!!

Think mels latest interview proves this right he's bugging

There is a MUTUAL disrespect between generations of hip hop and it's sad to see.

Add up THE MATH!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Blessings BRUTHA!!!

Melly Mel just hated on Meth again and shitted on Wayne 😂😂😂

Here's one more reason: Hip-Hop changes dramatically every decade or so, while genres of those "revered old artists" mostly stay the same, this makes their careers last a lot longer while in Rap it's very hard to stay on top if your wave is no longer what's popin, unless the artist is willing to keep changing and ridding all the new waves but it's usually goofy to see a 55yr rapping the way 17yr rap... 🤷‍♂

@TollFree999

2 жыл бұрын

Rap has been around long enough to have an audience old enough to support the older artists. But older rap fans only buy their favorite artists older stuff. I see it all the time when someone like Meth drops an album but no one in that age group I know actually supported the project even when it's solid. So then they have to rely on the younger fans supporting them which doesn't work as well, since they'd understandably rather support someone in their age bracket first.

@sgtslaughter573

2 жыл бұрын

@@TollFree999 this is what y'all don't understand these older folks you speak of don't buy cds or pay to stream music and give their hard earned money to people who already rich 😂 things always change it's still the same game most older artists stuck in the past you literally can blow up off KZread the younger generation are the sheep who artists should always focus and prey on to have success being salty at the younger artists not gonna help you in no way you Collab and capitalize put your feelings aside its all business at the end of day

@D-One

2 жыл бұрын

@@TollFree999 I also sort of see that around my circle, i'd say it's 50/50, half of the ogs still listen to new stuff from guys like meth the other half only listen to the old joints... Tie that to the fact that back when Meth was popping the amount of people listening to hip-hop was tiny compared to now, that also plays a part because like you said new fans tend to relate more to their age bracket with a few expectations like Jay-Z, J Cole, etc... It's really a lot of factors that contribute to OG's not having the deserved attention and let's face it, many of them lost also lost that youthfull hunger and fell off.

@edwinotieno9470

2 жыл бұрын

UNTRUE Reggae changes dramatically too but they revere the older generation

@D-One

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwinotieno9470 I was generally refering to Pop/Rock/Top-40 genres since that is referred in the actual conversation. I can't possibly know the detailed history of all the genres out there bro. To me raggae sounds the roughly the same if anything changed in that realm it was dancehall which absorbed the trap sound lot in the last decade but I am no expert to have an opinion about that anyway, I admit my ignorance here.

Some Great interviews on this channel, fascinating insights into the industry and how it works aswell… keep it Going

I forgot my point...that's trees... hilarious 😆😆

3:50 I'm one of the 24 year olds who saw this all happening real time growing up and just feeling like all of my peers are ignoring the difference in quality and competitiveness. Going as far as having to look deep inside myself and contemplate whether I'm just being racist and trapped by early childhood nostalgia is the only reason I like 90s/00s hip hop so much I eventually came to the conclusion that Rap is more white than it has ever been in terms of artists and Fans (so my hate is probably not related to being white) and that I'm extremely hopeful for these new guys coming up like J.I.D, Griselda, Dax etc. So I've become more comfortable in my dislike of practically anything 2010s style .

Meth said it best. Melle is Rotten!

"Damn...I forgot my point...that's trees.." Hilarious!! That's the realest sh*t ever!

Dope convo fr

Didn't Krs one destroy Melle Mel in a face to face battle at the Latin Quarter in New York??

This was amazing!... I'll never give in to mumble rap because I'm too deep of a thinker to be dumbed down or follow the modern day trend 🤷‍♂️ If you not on topic, spitting lyricism & bars , nor have a message in your music I cannot relate to you. You can't turn up all day long because in 24 hours you should learn something or be inspired by something positive or informative.

@gregorygriffin6341

2 жыл бұрын

I echo those very same sentiments, homie. My theory on that is "CANDY vs FRUIT". Candy is good and satsifies the taste buds, but you cannot feed on a steady diet of fucking candy. However, fruit is also good. And to feed on that, of course, is beneficial to your health. Sure, you could eat both, but in the end, if given a choice, what would a wise person choose? Which brings us to your point of mumble/trap vs lyricism. I LOVE LYRICS!!!

@ChiChi-jg1ch

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, a lot of people should go look up LL Cool J on posse joints, he actually made newer artists at that time raise their pen game! That should still be happening now as a right of passage. Or look up a track like 'Classic' which had a young Nas, Kanye as well as Rakim and KRS One or a young Nas and Kool G Rap... Or an older Nas who has made tracks with Joey Badass, ASAP Rocky and ASAP Ferg and other newer artists like Cordae and Freddie Gibbs.

@davidmurray6949

2 жыл бұрын

@Far7rom this is just a few questions not bullying or anything like that. (1) are you a fan of mumble rap? (2) In school when you wrote 5 paragraphs didn't you have to stay on subject or you'd fail that paper & (3) in 20 years will this music be relevant when the now 18 to 25 year olds say to themselves ' I actually used to listen to this trash" after life has gotten real and that music they used to listen to is none relatable to their lives , just a few questions I have to ask 🤷‍♂️ In the 80's & 90's people wore their favorite rappers shirts you don't see that at all today. Walmart still sales 2pac, Biggie &Wutang shirts and it's been 25+ years since they came out. Will see what stands the test of time!

Great points made in this interview.

bro me as a 90s kid from new Zealand only finding out this year all the real PAC CHECKS and the beefs being real excites the child in me again and now I see those songs in a whole new way thanks guys

I don't think "older" rappers are haters, I think just Melle Mel is one. "Hip hop is young." THIS is what most people don't get. It is a few decades old genre.

@louievasquez2381

Жыл бұрын

What about Lord Jamar???

@murk4552

Жыл бұрын

​@@louievasquez2381 he is a hypocrite

Crabs in a bucket is what Hip-Hop is

@jawnkandy

2 жыл бұрын

Corporate Hip-hop

can we get a playlist about all the music you mention please 🙏🙏🙏

MATH HOFFA your show is needed and keep it going by any means don't worry about no hatters lol!

Method Man was always a top 5 East Coast Emcee to me. Living legend!

Melle Mel has always been jealous of rapers that came after him. even 30 years ago during the golden era, he was jealous of Kane, Rakim Slick Rick, everybody. Now he's been on ROIDS so long, I think his mind is totally gone.

@damiendsoul360

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I listened to his VladTV interview and he was shitting on Biggie, Jay-Z, and Eminem for no reason besides being salty.

@antoniohoward981

2 жыл бұрын

@@damiendsoul360 melle Mel mad Willie D knock him out In the ring

@damiendsoul360

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoniohoward981 FOR REAL??!!!? When did that go down? I never heard about it.

@antoniohoward981

2 жыл бұрын

@@damiendsoul360 you tube Willie D vs melle mel

@afreeman69

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment bro. You beat me to it with him being on Roids take LOL!

Great vibes my brotha’s

"Damn i forgot my point. Thats trees" hahha

Rap was birthed from competition through battling. I guess the battle portion carried over outside the ring.