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It would be nice if HoD has a small scene where a baby is born and it's given the name of Melesandra
@marwanali4878
Жыл бұрын
Melisandra is most probably from hardhome. There is strong evidence that hardhome was attacked by Valryians and she has visions of a child called "Melony" in her pov chapter so it's safe to say that she's probably a wildling which is why her magic is stronger than Thorros(of course other factors may apply)
@mrender1016
Жыл бұрын
Shed be atleast 20-30 in hotd
@jacobviator3118
Жыл бұрын
@@marwanali4878 there is absolutely nothing suggesting she was born at Hardhome..
@jacobviator3118
Жыл бұрын
@@mrender1016 and again, you just made this up in your head, there is nothing giving us any indication of her age. She could be not born by HoT, or could be 1000 years old, we have no idea.
@mrender1016
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobviator3118 the guy in the vid says the books say she was born about 200 years before the main story hotd takes place about 170 years before the main story meaning she must've been 20-30 its simple math
I loved the actress who played her in GOT. she did it so well!
@marydegruchy201
Жыл бұрын
She did a commentary with the Onion Knight on one episode. Fun to listen to that...
@nasis18
Жыл бұрын
And she's smoking hot as well.
@SOB-FahadQayam
Жыл бұрын
@@nasis18 hottest in got
@nasis18
Жыл бұрын
@@SOB-FahadQayam There's quite a few beauties in the series.
@SOB-FahadQayam
Жыл бұрын
@@nasis18 name one that surpass her in beauty. I dare you
My personal favorite actress on GOT
@sit-insforsithis1568
Жыл бұрын
Carice van houten !!
@cossackbrotherhood5772
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@YourGraceMyLady
Жыл бұрын
Her and mirri maz duhr were both so good for the roles. Osha as well
Undead fire Wight! I never thought of that or heard of that before thats really something to think about. But she doesn't behave like the ice wights she's completely lucid and seems to have held on to her humanity. The ice ones seem just like killing machines of flesh.... but maybe that's just because we only see them in battle?
@nacereddinechallal4405
Жыл бұрын
We actualy saw the wights standing still doing nothing as long as the Other who ressurected them didn't order them (when Sam saw them) . But then we saw the wight who was taken to King s landing acting lkke an animal .... It doesn't make alot of sense ; but i guess that s the Tv show adaptation fault.
@nordette
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmswenko8292 very good point about the wight that tried to kill Jeor! Thanks so much I'll definitely check David's channel and series out, this idea is so fascinating to me. I hope George can find it in himself to finish the books I would love to see the idea of Jon as a fire wight fleshed out
@peacebuddha96
Жыл бұрын
The ice wights are nice guys for sure privately 😂
@jeambeam3173
Жыл бұрын
That's a show thing. In the books other then being rotten looking and trying to kill you the Others Wights have culture and do communicate with each other
@trence5
Жыл бұрын
Awesome concept.
One of the coolest characters in my opinion. It would be awesome to see her in HotD since she’d be alive around that time
The woman who play the role in the series is a famous actress from the Netherlands its kind of weird for someone so well know for Dutch movies to be in a big show/movie from the United States the only Dutch actor similar is Rutger Hauer
@The.Usurper
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Game of Thrones isn't from the United States, I may be wrong but I know most of the cast isn't from there.
@jimeno726
Жыл бұрын
@@The.Usurperthe author is American. And HBO is an American company. But most actors were from the UK and most of the filming was done in Europe.
@Aidencros
Жыл бұрын
Famke Janssen is probably more famous than both
@williamwright9344
Жыл бұрын
Was , Mr. Hauer passed on.
@Ed19601
Жыл бұрын
Well, maybe she is 'famous in the netherlands' because we only have a few decent actors. Also, her fame is from days well on the past. Ask dutch people to mention any of her films, they might mention 'zwartboek' maybe some know 'valkyrie' and that's about it. I didn't find her particularly good in GoT. Any actrice could have played it.
She was 400 years old in GOT and at the time of dance she was 220+ years old
@T-h-a-t_G-u-y
Жыл бұрын
What….
@smitprmr
24 күн бұрын
Wait! She saw the doom of Valyria?
@Spk2323
24 күн бұрын
@@smitprmr doom happened 100 years before the conquest so it's hard to tell but I think she didn't cos at that time she must have been in temple or maybe ae slave but who knows
I read a theory that actually Melisandre can be Alys Rivers. That would be interest to see.
The narrative purpose for her age is to tell something important about the past, something that she has experienced first hand. It's going to be a massive revelation that will blow people's minds, so what is it exactly? Maybe the red priesthood was originally created to ensure and oversee the purity of the Valyrian blood. After the creation of the first firebloods that ended the Long Night and resulted in the creation of the Valyrian Freehold far away from the greenseers sight, Valyrian blood became highly valued. To maintain and oversee the purity of the firebloods they created a priesthood. Maybe Melisandre knows this.
She was super hot in GOT
The oldest living characters and by far are the children of the forest
@glasbolyas9549
Жыл бұрын
Not really children of the forest have limited lifespans aswell albeit longer then humans which is why there numbers are so small
@jradjj2988
Жыл бұрын
@@glasbolyas9549 well then we have yet to know what age that is. So far they do seem to be immortal as the ones that met brand were still alive and part of the ones that were there before the first long night and first men which would make them thousands of years old.
@adc1222
Жыл бұрын
Well she's at least the oldest of the human characters that we know about
@hoesmad8445
Жыл бұрын
@@glasbolyas9549 aren't the ones that met bran also the same ones who created the night king all those years ago?
@hermitofswords
Жыл бұрын
That's not really a specific character that we see regularly or even have names for. We barely get a decent look at them, and they seem more like random fae-type creatures just in the background, instead of characters in themselves. Doubt they really even count to be honest.
I wish they didn’t completely toss out her shadowbinding abilities after Renly’s death on the show. It’s literally the only time we see her do something like that, even though it’s what she trained for years to perfect.
the hottest actress on the show
@SOB-FahadQayam
Жыл бұрын
💯
@cristiancervantes3088
Жыл бұрын
Missande is finer.
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt
Жыл бұрын
*As long as she keeps the necklace on..*
@grandmabecky7984
Жыл бұрын
Literally
@goldmantis5850
11 ай бұрын
@@cristiancervantes3088ugh Missandei is 🥵
Sheeran Seastar might had use glamor magic as well with her necklace.
Maybe I missed it... But in the books her age or her history is not mentioned... And she is not that good a reading the flames, she interpreted incorrectly a couples of times and the sword given to Stannis is not even hot.
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
Her history is in her POV chapter in A Dance of Dragons. Although her exact age is unknown, the numbers people come up with stem from different theories, but pretty much all agree she is way older than she looks.
@Ilivedbih
Жыл бұрын
@@TemariNaraannaschatzWait she's in Dance of the Dragons?
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
@@Ilivedbih She has a POV chapter in A Dance of Dragons, the fifth A Song of Ice and Fire book. She is not in any material that covers the Dance of Dragons. Hope that clears it up.
Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar would be old as bones too. Maybe like 150 or so I think
One of my favourite characters in the books (that I read before the show aired) and show. Such an interesting woman... I also loved the actress that played her.
I would love to see a wizard’s duel between Melisandre and BloodRaven.
The ruby necklace glamour was exclusive to the show. She looks young because she's spent centuries morphing into a fire being
I wish rhollor was covered more 😔. I just wanted to what was up. Like I felt there was so much more to unravel. The way the guy who cut Varys spoke into the flames and heard back. Also that means Varys might have had royal blood. 🤷🏽♀️. I miss got.
My absolute favorite character. She is sooo underrated.
She was one of my favorites!!!
Can Next you make about House Rogare of Lys who Take inspiration of House Medici on Milan. Please 🙏🙏
I think she's changed, but not undead. In the books, the dead can't cross the wall, but Melisandre crosses through the gate at Castle Black, doesn't she? Been years since i read it.
My own theory is that Milisandre is a mage, and she has perfected magic in an mage academy somewhere in Asshai.
The oldest living thing was the children of the forest who created the white walker that little girl was more than 10000 years old.
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
9 ай бұрын
Yes, correct! Leaf, who Bran sees in a vision helping the other children of the forest create a blade of cursed dragonglass and then plunging it into the chest of one of the First Men, thus creating the Night King, IS the oldest living character. He is 10,000 years old and Leaf is older than THAT.
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Make a video about melisandre comparing her to Rasputin. They are extremely similar
Hmm I wanna know more about this glamor magic 🎩 ✨️
I think the show was typing to suggest that she was there with the wizard, when Varyes was 'nicked' - she seemed to be the only one that scared him to his core
I'm pretty sure the children of the forest were older tho
I wonder if she related to Targaryen at all I know she's a priestess but targaryens have visions and so did she among a few other power she has obviously
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
9 ай бұрын
And her predilection for fire and ability to utilize it for religious and power purposes, is rather Targaryen-like.
what about the high priest benero or the one in the series where she tells varys about his past who was she again i think they are higher in terms of sstatus than mel and maybe even older than her
She is the same woman from the movie blackbook
She does eat, just not very much ans not as often as people do.
according to the ice and fire wiki three eyed raven is over 1000 old, so it's unlikely that Melisandre is the oldest
What happened to her shadow baby after it killed renly
@sophiawilson8696
Жыл бұрын
it disappear into dust.
She could not foresee the horrible ending of GOT.
Please check Kinvara age. 1st place red witch.
The dark is night and full terror
Bloodraven and Maester Aemon were also extremely old.
She and the warlock are the only ones that uses magic restrictions by the show runners
What about the 3 eyed raven
How old is the three eyed raven before Brann?
@glasbolyas9549
Жыл бұрын
150 years old
She's definitely a fire wight.
Like the darkling?
That's cool...
Something in me wishes that Melissandra would actually be Vysenia that made the spell to live long since she was into sorcery herself 😩 THAT would’ve been EPIC
@jamesmswenko8292
Жыл бұрын
That would be so dumb; Mel was a slave named Melony & was sold to a red temple at an early age, where she learned the Common Tongue, High Valyrian, magic...
@MiguelGarcia-hl5jo
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmswenko8292 I’m just saying it would’ve been cool to see Vysenia in Game of Thrones as the witch… just saying …calm your titts
So your sayn she can. Make an appearance in HoD..... that would be awsome
@TJ-fe7rr
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be the actress though
She was the hottest woman of GOT
Bloodraven might be older though
I think she is Allys Rivers
Unknowen 🥰
Something tells me that she is just an old woman. 100 maybe. But when the dragons came back. Her glamour magic started to work.
As a middle aged man, hottest character by far 😋…thumbs up if your with me!
Admits to knowingly squeezing her injured hand… he seemed way too comfortable with that admittance. Not a hint of guilt.
I think she's either Shiera Seastar, or Shiera's daughter with Bloodraven
What’s the use ?
The red priestess' have ruby necklaces
Who would have dreamed her and I had so much in common.
Wasn’t the Red Priestess Kinvara, who helped Varys and Tyrion in Meereen the oldest and first servant of the Lord of Light? So…
Wait a second, so Jon Snow is also a fire wight?
Is it possible Melisandre could also be Alys Rivers? Both were insanely beautifull and both were followers of Rh'llor.
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
Alys was not a follower of Rh'llor as far as we know, she could see visions in flames yes, but also in clouds and water. And being able to see visions and the likely magic she practices when killing the messenger does not make her a follower of Rh'llor either, just makes us know she uses magic. Her actual believes are unknown and House Strong, which she is likely related to are decendents of the first men, so it's probably the magic of the old gods she uses. That aside we do have Melisandres POV in the books, you'd think she would at least allure to being Alys in any way, especially given her prophecies and that's not the case.
Bloodraven?
After the mannis because Stannis was there from the beginning
Me wondering if she was alive during dance of the dragons and why she didn’t save the dragon eggs
I think she was counseling the mad king in secret
So does she only age whenever she has the necklace off?
to 💅🏼slay💅🏼 Renly
Even now I hear her theme from got
Still hit
Three eyed raven is older no?
I have to say, I like the low key magic system from GOT way more than the usual high fantasy stuff from the likes of Dungeons and Dragons. It's powerful, but heavily restrictive and comes with terrible consequences, it's not overly flashy or based on visual effects, but more subtle in it's appearance. Classic Sword & Sorcery magic, like Conan...
@riveraharper8166
Жыл бұрын
It was also potent in Conan. Conan usually fought with some trick or the help of other wizards.
@robertnett9793
Жыл бұрын
@@riveraharper8166 Yes.. but subdued compared to worlds like D&D ... more mysterious.
Can someone answer this, I never read GOT books. In the show, she takes off her ruby necklace and we see her become very old. BUT in another scene. She's taking a bath when, Sleyse Baratheon walks in. Again, Melisandre is not wearing her necklace, but looks young. Why is this???
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
In the books she wears a ruby necklace that glows and burns and it does have magical properties (she drinks poison and is fine, but the necklaces glows, she disguises Rattleshirt to look like Mance) but she is never seen without it. It is theorized, but not yet confirmed that the necklace also works as a glamor to make her look younger. In the show they screwed up, simple as that. They made the bath scene without having planned on making her old and only appearing young via necklace.
@mamamillwright458
Жыл бұрын
@@TemariNaraannaschatz Thank you very much
might! there are children. and the man in the cave who ever that is?. the ice beings.
isn't bloodraven older?
@randomelite4562
Жыл бұрын
Do you not know what the word “might” means?
For some reason I just don’t think she’s originally from Asshai. Maybe she’s lying or something.
No the oldest the high priestess of the god of fire in red tower of Votaria in the great desert I’d Essos
Older than the tree guy?
She was MVP in the Long Night. W/o her the living would be all dead. Another reason why I despised boring Davos.
@randomelite4562
Жыл бұрын
You’re joking right
@riveraharper8166
Жыл бұрын
@@randomelite4562 no
@riveraharper8166
Жыл бұрын
@@randomelite4562 Most boring character in the book and in the show. And in the books Melisandre didn't sacrifice Shireen.
What about BloodRaven even he's pretty old
@glasbolyas9549
Жыл бұрын
He is 150 years old so he would still be younger than Melisandre if she indeed as old as in the theories
She didn’t have her necklace in the tub seen and still young wtf 😳 😅
That means she was alive for the dance of the dragons
A gorgeous young looking religious zealot who constantly proclaims you are the mesiah reborn, no wonder Stannis found religion
Unknown-en? Lol! 😆
She seems to enjoy herself as a younger woman, too.
Hear me out.....
she's around 400 years old, meaning she would have been around 200 years old in house of the dragon
@jerome0929
Жыл бұрын
So you just think a number? No one has ever said she’s 400
@lucifersfavoritemortal6973
Жыл бұрын
@@jerome0929 No, multiple people have said and speculated this. it's not confirmed and until it is no one knows how old she is.
Undead what?
Except she takes a bath in season 2 without her necklace, and dosen't appear older then usual. Oups
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
From all the things the show screwed up, I think this is one of the more harmless screw ups.
Would her youthful form be what she actually looked like when she was young, or just some random 30-something?
for prostitution. that is evil
If she's over 200 years old, well then she witness the arrival of Aegon the conqueror or even the age of heroes! Now I get it why she turned into very very old hag after the battle for winter fell.
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
ASOIAF starts in 298 After Conquest. She'd have to be over 300 years old to witness Aegon and even then she was sold as a child to the temple, which we know from her POV chapter and then she studied there for a very long time. So she'd have to be far older than that to witness Aegon herself outside from hearing about him.
@joelalcantara8068
Жыл бұрын
@@TemariNaraannaschatz however, they said that Melisandre will be appearing in Season 2. Therefore she's 400 years old according to them.
@TemariNaraannaschatz
Жыл бұрын
I could not find a single official source stating that Melisandre will appear in season 2, only fan speculations. Alys Rivers is confirmed for season 2, alongside Cregan and Daeron.
I will never forgive her for convincing that idiot to sacrifice his Precious little girl For Nothing because surely they were All Doomed after that..
@jamesmswenko8292
Жыл бұрын
That's fan fiction, in the novels Stannis, Mel, Shireen, Selyse etc, still live, the writers didn't know what to do with them and so were killed-off.
@BiGMamaaTee
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmswenko8292 smh so many missed opportunities with amazing storylines from the Books it’s so sad but thank you for that!
She can get married and have children like a normal woman or not?
@TJ-fe7rr
Жыл бұрын
Marriage and pregnancy are two different things. I doubt she can get pregnant. With a normal baby, that is.
@Efra21
Жыл бұрын
@@TJ-fe7rr Marriage and pregnancy are two different things, don't tell me👀
@TJ-fe7rr
Жыл бұрын
@@Efra21 you asked the question, not me.
@Efra21
Жыл бұрын
@@TJ-fe7rr And that has to do??
Nah it’s obviously old nan
Half this information is false for book readers. But for the show yea.
Still the worst red priest ever 🤣
Sexiest character on the entire show.
No worries, her character played by the Scarlet Bitch will explain her origins