What do you think about wiping the panel for multiple rounds with the same cleaner (like the cheap Eagle One iron remover), to establish a baseline and easy durability comparison for every product? That Tsunami cleaner ruins the testing, IMO.

This probably a video for the tsunami cleaner lol

Seal and shine is still my go to for my truck and its thanks to you and how you actually break the products down. It's cheap and does very well for the price. I have tho started stacking products like I will wash my truck and apply seal and shine then a week later wash it again but use Maguire's hybrid ceramic as I spray it off as you showed in a previous video. I would like to see you mix some products so we can see what happens when tortured. Just an idea. Great video

WOW! is all I can say... I honestly thought that the M27 would have been quite a bit better than the consumer version but daum! Honest opinion... they are the same product with different M#'s and different colors. They both reacted to the tests the exact same way.. Turtle Wax is still KING!!!

@Carlos.Rivera

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, seal n shine requires few hours than hybrid ceramics and you can spray wax as your sacrificial layer to extend seal n shine life span... with less than 20 bucks

@Spiritcr1jsher

4 жыл бұрын

The turtle wax doesnt last as long in the real world on a car under normal washing and elements vs the others . Its good when fresh and put through this useless test that only shows it resists these tests but not so much the heat and sun light for 1000s of hours. I have them all and the turtle wax doesn't last as long . Its still a good product .

@jdisdetermined

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spiritcr1jsher I'm seeing the same thing in my environment. S&S is incredibly active that first month or two, after that it falls off, goes down to sheeting which gets slower and slower. Next to MHCW on my daily driver, they both go totally flat at about the same time, but MHCW maintains better hydrophobics for that second half of their lifespan. It also seems to work a bit better as a topper for a coating as well. Still testing the TW Hybrid Solutions, but it's still quite active and easy to work with. I would go with S&S over others if I needed that chemical resistance strength to hold up to frequent aggressive washes and decons on a vehicle that gets very dirty frequently but is maintained frequently as well.. it would take a lot of chemical hits that would normally be chipping away at the coating or the clear.. The MHC Liquid Wax and Sealant are not something I would ever buy. Why use a product with a time and labor intensive application if it does not outperform products with quick and easy spray application? But I do it for profit, so my needs are different. I know some people enjoy the hand waxing process itself, and it's always good to have options.. 👍👌✌

@Raptors0524

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spiritcr1jsher so which one do you prefer? I have MHCW on my car and the wife has TWHS and can’t decide. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@Spiritcr1jsher

3 жыл бұрын

@@Raptors0524 the one that seems to last the longest is that Meguiars nxt wax with any kind if spray wax in between waxes . My mustang hasn't been waxed in 8 months and looks glossy and beads water well. A leaf blower dried my whole car in 2 min.

Great test but what I’m more concerned with is durability as far as how it holds up to intense UV light/heat here in TX. Maybe that’s what Megs is referring to

@wyattbarnes5536

Жыл бұрын

Because everyone washes their car with harsh chemicals lol

Why Tsunami on the second test! Idk to many sealants getting through that.

Thanks for the video, I think I need to try these out - this sort of stuff is exactly why i started my little detailing channel.

This is really unfortunate, I had high hopes for M27.

I picked up the consumer version from Wal-Mart today. I applied it on half of my hood over a ceramic coating and it did amazing with the hydrophobics while driving through the rain today.

So basically I'll be sticking with TWSS. Will still use Ultimate Fast Finish, since I have a can and a half, and how easy it is to apply. But won't be trying either of these two products. Thanks Jimbo👍🏽 always appreciate your work

Did you give the M27 the 24hrs cure time that is recommended? I use the M27 on my cars as a top coating to my ceramic. its shine is amazing and really makes the vehicles pop. I have had good luck with the durability as well (Lasted through the winter around 8 months between applications). Not sure if hitting it with Tsunami and saying it dont last is a fair test

This is exactly the video I was looking for!!! Thanks for the video!!!! I have both and got them for great prices. Haven't used them yet but I'm pretty excited too. 👍👍👍

Michael Stoops of Meguiars told me durability would be about the same between the two. He said M27 would have more gloss and slickness than the consumer product.

....annnnnd I will just continue to use TW Hybrid Solutions "Ceramic Spray Coating" on my daily driver. Cheap, easy to quickly apply and remove, durable, and seems to play well when I top it with a gloss enhancer like Bead Maker or Eagle One "Wipe & Shine". I have a ton of more expensive traditional paste and liquid sealants in my detailing arsenal, but freaking Turtle Wax keeps shaming them all. LOL

What is the best Sealant that u recommend?

@Generalkenobi325

6 ай бұрын

A ceramic spray over the top should seal it in nicely something like autoglym ceramic coating

Just received my bottle and it starts raining in so cal 🙄. I’m more concerned on the slickness. Where they the same?

I hope Meguiars watches this

@vincealince_SRT

4 жыл бұрын

Dale Maddox LoL these test are great comparisons, but hold no value based on your area, environment, vehicle(personal or clients) driving habits, vehicle outside/garaged. Prep, condition of surface you’ll be applying and maintenance. I’m sure they’re watching and performed 100s if not thousands of test before releasing this product. I’m hopeful it’ll live up to hype

@Pierre578

2 жыл бұрын

Personally It’s better that a sealant can be removed easily with a chemical than sticking to the car too much especially if you need paint correction

If your not washing it with those products, which you shouldn’t, because you’ve corrected and protected the paint, this test means nothing. I think the best test is just washing it with an apc or stripping soap. But even then you don’t use that regularly

Nice one buddy, that's surprising. At almost twice the price the pro version should be a lot better. Jimbo reveals the truth again.

Yo jimbo, thanks for this! I was gonna buy a gallon of m27 lol. Can you do jescar power lock and wolfgang paint sealant 3.0?

You just save alot of people some money

Thought the M27 would last longer. Disappointed, was thinking of buying some. Not now.

M27 good for garage queens damn shame turtle wax seal n shine outlasts both.

@gtbigdog3507

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Scott Seal and shine isn’t as shiny

@michaelscott7706

4 жыл бұрын

@@gtbigdog3507 the flip side to this is How many of us is going to spray I iron removers on a car we just spent 10 to 12 hours polishing?

@johnnelson9742

4 жыл бұрын

TW seal and shine is only my topper, I still use premium paint sealant base. Can't beat the price by the gallon

@DeusKDuo

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnelson9742 may i ask which sealant you use.

@gabevillarreal96

4 жыл бұрын

@@gtbigdog3507 There has to be a compromise for that level of durability. And on my white orchid pearl paint seal n shine is brilliant in the shine department! Durability is hard to beat!

Proving once again there is no need to use any type of "wax". Why would you use anything other than a spray on wipe off coating????

@souly3169

4 жыл бұрын

What about compounding heavy oxidation there’s still a need for wax

100% won’t be buying the M27 😂

I have a 43' Toy Hauler with custom paint. I'd like to be able to wash it without having to come back and dry it to avoid streaks and water spots. Meguiars products seem to be a good start.

I would love to see Adam's Ceramic Paste Wax torture test!! They claim 12 months of protection....would be cool to see you apply a "wax" that flashes like a true coating

So what are you going to do with that gallon of it?

Wow..........a no go for these products.

@michaelh4027

4 жыл бұрын

He basically threw acid on it

Wow! The Tsunami Cleaner is great!

I really believed the hype. I wanted it to be my new fav. I’m guessing it won’t even get the honor of taking on seal and shine. What a shame. If I would buy either is buy the consumer yellow version. Similar durability and performance for lower cost.

@8:28 The result of M27 seems like “cool” and the result of Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax seems like “warm”, or it is just because of the camera angle?

@autodetailingpodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Might just be the angle

Jumbo put one these waxes against a spray on just to see difference. Is it really necessary to use liquid wax and machine when simple spray on will do

Honestly, I don't expect waxes or sealants to be bullet proof. They should last their good couple months or so and be easy to remove quickly to wash, polish, reapply, whatever. I think seal and shine is impressive but that's really the limit of what durability should be for these products.

So disappointed to see M27 perform so bad. Had high hopes from this product. This product is definitely less durable than Fast Finish. I wonder why Meg removed Fast Finish from counters so they could sell an inferior product (M27) at higher price. For me the best sealant is still the TW Seal N Shine. That thing is easy to apply, very good price, durability, slickness and gloss. Do compare M27 with Fast Finish or Seal N Shine

@vincealince_SRT

4 жыл бұрын

Fahad Ali did they pull from shelves or individual parts store stop ordering

@devn3813

4 жыл бұрын

Fahad Ali that’s what happens when you design 3000 of the same products.

What ceramic sealant will perfom the best? I wanted m27... but now i feel maybe i should get youre very best choice?

I think, You should try some sealants again using that Tsunami to have a baseline

WOW!! Megs just got chin checked!! Maybe Turtle wax can release a pro line!!!

I just used the m27 on my red vw polo.. its just shiny AF right now. How does the m27 compare to the m688? Could u do a video on that maybe?

Do I have to buy a water filtration system in order to use a blow dryer to dry my car? Or can I do it without the water filtration system?

Have you ever tried dish soap as a torture test application? Everyone says it’ll strip wax lol idk

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It doesn’t imo

The idea of torture test is good.. I'm not sure the way you go about it tells us anything that useful. Apex detailing using a consistent repeatable hit of chemical so we can see how many rounds a product can take tells us more.. your test since it was inconsistent in the products used showed these two to be the same but the suggestion of just using the first product was that it effected the consumer more that the pro product.. I like the channel though and keep up the good work.

Did you dilute the Tsunami? Could you use the Tsunami as a paint prep?

So is Jeremy correct? Turtle wax is the best. Tell us your opinion. Sorry I don't want to see all the comparisons. I just want to buy the best one.

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

It’s undoubtedly in the top 3

how do these products compare to the To the Max Wax from turtle wax, the one that is graphene? I hated using that cuz it always streaked and I had to get a damp mf towel and buff more than I would for meguiar's hybric ceramic wax.

@autodetailingpodcast

8 ай бұрын

I haven’t tested them against each other yet. But like you said the max wax might be a little harder to remove but maybe more durable. I would need to test.

The untreated side sheets WAY faster than both the treated sides ... it would probably get less water spots

To me the torture with chemical is irreveleant because a good product need to be removed easily for paint correction for exemple .

Wow, was definitely excited for m27, pretty unimpressed with it....what would you consider the best option for an easy on/off sealant? 50 bucks or so max for a bottle....

@24skeemers

4 жыл бұрын

john held powerlock plus

Honestly thought both products would last better, especially the pro version! TW Ceramic spray coating, and Seal n shine!!🐢🐢

@Fernando5455Jr

4 жыл бұрын

404 not found Biggest problem is the spray application doesn’t last as long.

Work the same imo. Looks like a decent product.

I always laugh when I see these awesome videos. If my car gets caught in a sun shower or gets hit by sprinklers in the parking lot at work, I want what's going on in the control section 1000% of the time. I don't want beading so the sun can etch the crap out of my paint, I just want the water to disappear. Give me a product with protection and extreme slickness but 0 hydrophobic properties and I'm happy. Such a conundrum

@TotalDetailing

4 жыл бұрын

k.

@derek723

4 жыл бұрын

@@TotalDetailing k.

@derek723

4 жыл бұрын

@C-Bomb I'm sorry someone gave you that misinformation because it's simply not true, and maybe Jim can chime in as well. Beading doesn't mean protection. A lot of ceramic coatings are warrantied for 4+ years, and it explicitly says the warranty doesn't apply to how well the beading properties are maintained. So even if your coating stops beading after a year, it's still warrantied to protect your vehicle. The reason you don't want beading is because of acid rain and minerals in hard water. So say you get a rain shower filled with pollutants on your car and you've got a million beads now... 20 minutes later the sun comes out. Whatever crap that was embedded in that water is now etched into your ceramic coating, wax or sealant. Some etching/water spotting is worse than others, it all depends on what the water source is. That's why you see a lot of detailers with deionized water. Deionized water won't etch if it dries on paint. In the control section of Jim's video, you'll notice the water just quickly evaporates. That's exactly what you want, the only downside obviously is that there's no "protection" or sacrificial barrier between the environment and the clear coat

@derek723

4 жыл бұрын

@C-Bomb correct, however saying beading means protection isn't accurate. Felt like that was the main focus, my apologies. But that brings two things to mind: 1) Again, the amount of water spotting/etching always differs. Sometimes a coating takes the brunt of it...sometimes it doesn't and you've gotta break out the light polish to correct 2) If you pay $1000-$2000 dollars for a ceramic coating install, the last thing you want to hear is the water spots aren't coming out and it needs to be re-coated At the end of the day, there needs to be an agreement in the detailing community that protection, gloss and slickness = good, beading = bad. We'll get there some day

What car dryer are you using?

Where do you get tsunami

I love these tests and think they give us good information but I get customers that get a detail with a sealant and come back in a couple months wanting a paint correction. I think I would want it to come off with a chemical like that. Been using seal and shine but it's harder to remove than I want. Anybody have experience with m27?

Any difference in gloss/appearance?

Great video as usual. Question : whats a great product that sheets water, but also protects?

@RnBGarvey

25 күн бұрын

klasse

I use bead maker everytime I was my vehicles. Can I use the bead maker as a topper without losing protection?

@khyoon14

4 жыл бұрын

Hm, that's a good question. Technically the beadmaker is a synthetic sealant, and I would think that it would redundant. Then again who knows, maybe you can use beadmaker as a topper. I use it as a topper to my ceramic coating.

@jaredharbaugh8419

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm going to p & s website today to see if they sell a wax or polish that goes hand in hand with bm. Ps thanks for the nice comment most people are rude and hateful. 😄

@khyoon14

4 жыл бұрын

Just finished the video. Personally wouldn't even consider using Meguiars. Get turtle wax seal and shine.

@jaredharbaugh8419

4 жыл бұрын

I'll check it out. Thanks

@clow242

4 жыл бұрын

I literally just tried it on my hood (M27). I’m not impressed at all. Does not feel slick to the touch. The best I have used so far when it comes to slickness is Wowos crystal sealant. But the only thing is that is not very sun friendly. But it looks and feels amazing. Probably can get 6 + months out of it.

I had high hopes for Mcguires Ceramic line..Turtle wax Seal and Shine is King

Turtle wax resists these tests better aftee being freshly applied but doesn't last as long on a vehicle parked under continuous heat , UV and even a snow salt season . It also doesnt look as glossy. You need these coatings to resist water and UV , not iron remover and heavy duty cleaners. I bought lots of this turtle wax thanks to these kinds of videos and it doesnt shine or last long at all especially on a dark colored car. Best shine ive tested out of all products from a meter are megs ultimate quick wax and griots best of show paste wax .

Compare the pro to fast finish please

Like i said,same stuff!

Have you tried out the Ryan West Atomic 14?

@muhammadsuleman2903

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan KC9OZA Ryan stop promoting your own products to Jimbo’s community for free j/k

@NTOXIK8N

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see atomic 14 in any comparison

Great video but my question is ? Did you let both products cure for 5 minutes as Directed and if so. Can you redo the same Endurance test this time applying the M27 sealant first and 2nd apply the ceramic wax on top of that. I have both products and was planning on applying them in this order. This test of both products applied in this way. Would Surely I be appreciated by me. Thank You!

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

They cured for 4 days

@ppen62

4 жыл бұрын

JIMBO'S DETAILING ok

I was hoping that it may last a little longer but No Sir, Meguiar’s wants to you keep buying their mediocre products. If they want they can definitely come up with a product that can last and sustain a lot longer but why would they kill their earnings. I wonder if I go to blenders and ask them to build or create ultra durable products regardless of their cost, yeah it would not sell like Meguiar’s but my consumers or applicators can count of getting durable protection at least.

I think doing the test the way u did showed nothing. By just jumping to the extreme like that you can't tell if one I better then the other.

This test is biased. I need to see what happens from UV breakdown since I live in Phoenix. The environment doesnt poop Tsunami all over your car.

@Spiritcr1jsher

4 жыл бұрын

Im telling that the turtle wax doesn't last nor shine as long in real world conditions we drive our polished cars in . Under hours of heat and UV light the turtle wax is not so great , i use all of these products. All these tests show is that turtle wax resists iron removers and such , not continuous heat and UV light mixes with rain .

so: is the m27 the "better or pro" Version of the Liquid Wax? I didn´t get that :D

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

They say it is

@michi4741

4 жыл бұрын

@@autodetailingpodcast Thank U! In Germany we dont have any of these Products at the Moment:D

Jimbo, with the M27 & Ceramic Liquid sucking, what liquid wax type product would you recommend that has the best hydrophobic properties and longest lasting in liquid form that isn't a spray sealant/coating. Looking to add a product to my lineup that I know will offer long-lasting protection.

@johnketuroskey6293

4 жыл бұрын

polish angel cosmic spritz....watch vids at esoteric and apex(brian) detail...price is high but cost per application is good as u dont need much. only thing that has equaled seal n shine

SNS all the way...

M27 vs m21? There both the same color lol

Fantastic

First great video buddy

@rskrks

4 жыл бұрын

I was furst 😝🤪🤗

@TheBeautifulme1985

4 жыл бұрын

@@rskrks really

I expect all waxes to last longer but they never do.

I was wondering why the video was only 9 min long.... so disappointing. The product, not you 😂 thanks Jimbo. So would you recommend this product

So tsunami should be reserved for later ...

@austinbentley2760

4 жыл бұрын

Or maybe diluted.

Really you need to have a control section (no product) and two sections per product. Leave one of the sections untouched and compare the beading to when you test their resistance.

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Brayden Haines you obviously didn’t watch the video

Ouuu ..........yes

Does this mean that S&S is still King?

Once a sealant but.........

M27 first with a correction of course then apply that ceramic wax that’s 20 dollars as a topper thank me later.

What has been your strongest protection product that you've tested?

@autodetailingpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

TW Seal n shine

@davidolsen4435

4 жыл бұрын

@@autodetailingpodcast I absolutely love that stuff. Have you messed around with the tsunami cleaner much? It looks strong, im thinking about using it in my day to day.

@ChadStJohn

4 жыл бұрын

JIMBO'S DETAILING Fusso Coat?

Turtle Wax is still the King in my book. I've been using it for 4 months and it has been bullet proof. I only put one coat on.

this is disturbing...i just bought a gallon of m27...oh well!

@rebel3five

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Snyder I’m pretty sure if you don’t wash your vehicle with heavy duty cleaners the product will do great

@gtbigdog3507

4 жыл бұрын

There is limited value to this type of testing. You aren’t putting iron remover on your car. I have used the consumer version and it looks great.

Not enough steps to see what would have died first. You went straight to the killer.

@razetw

4 жыл бұрын

If you follow his channel, you've seen HCW survive certain waves. If you've never followed you might assume these products suck. Ones consumer, ones pro.. Ten dollar difference and they both die at level 2?.. What's extreme solutions never seen it at Walmart... I get it. It's hard to make this video for the newbie, fanatic, prosumer, and pros without being a 30 minute video. I personally was looking for gloss meter readings. Some people would buy for more gloss alone and not care about durability. Hard audience to please. Anyway. Good job on the content man. Can I request you demo more extreme solutions stuff? Apex does great but they have soo many more products.

Damn.... I'll just stick with my turtle wax ceramic spray!! Lol or griots poly wax that shit last forever

All of your videos end like this... Iron remover.. Fine... Next thing... kills both. In like 10 videos that I've watched it's the same result. Why not find something that might not kill both? Lame. It's like you're bored of the test.

Do you think ceramic coating will protect me from coronavirus?!

Definitely not impressed.

@nicksdragon6929

4 жыл бұрын

I would have thought with all the advertising these products would have been a lot better.

@nicksdragon6929

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry to disappoint but I don't have any affiliation with Turtle Wax.