Meet the Man Changing YouTube Education (Film Booth Interview)

Ed Lawrence is the creator of the KZread channel Film Booth, which helps KZreadrs grow their channels.
But Ed approaches his videos differently than your typical KZreadr. He’s found a way to make education entertaining.
He's the answer to the question, what if learning wasn't boring?
So in this episode you’ll learn:
•How to use story as a teaching device
•How bingeable videos can take 1st time watchers to loyal fans
•Ed’s production process
•How to make your boring ideas sexy
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00:00 - The Most Entertaining Educator on KZread
00:44 - How to Make Your Ideas Interesting
07:19 - Packaging Comes First
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13:48 - Using Story in Your Videos
17:34 - Using Metaphors
19:10 - Assuming Audience Knowledge
21:31 - Bingeable Content Builds Community
24:06 - Film Booth Production Process
28:34 - When is a Story Too Long?
31:18 - How to End a Video
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  • @lolamoro
    @lolamoro10 ай бұрын

    I broke out in laughter when he said "I block 2 hours a day off for writing...and sometimes I don't write anything, I just think 😂" soo good to know we're not the only ones struggling with that

  • @VioletEmerald

    @VioletEmerald

    5 ай бұрын

    It sounds like a joke but isn't when some writers say that sitting there thinking is part of the writing process!

  • @BrendanEvan
    @BrendanEvan11 ай бұрын

    I’ve paid for KZread classes and books and watched plenty of Film Booth but something tonight just clicked watching this. Not sure why it’s taken so long We’ve got to take the boring necessary idea and transforming into something interesting, entertaining every single time

  • @BrentMalice

    @BrentMalice

    11 ай бұрын

    yeah its like... his meta explaining his explanations help me better understand his explanations.

  • @jeffreylevans

    @jeffreylevans

    11 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately mostly we prioritize entertainment (feeling good) over value. Go to trick them like Ed says

  • @voodooaudio9488

    @voodooaudio9488

    7 ай бұрын

    That's exactly what he doesn't do.

  • @TaniaRouserArt

    @TaniaRouserArt

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s called “A carrot covered in chocolate”. I learned about it not so long ago.

  • @CauterizeKing

    @CauterizeKing

    4 ай бұрын

    I felt the same when he said "package it as what they want, and give them what they need". He said it elsewhere, and it was hammered home today. Really feeling confident after watching Ed's recent stuff.

  • @kevinmespiritu
    @kevinmespiritu11 ай бұрын

    Ed's exceptionally good at what he does - learned a lot

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah i’ve gone down the rabbit hole and feel like a REAL amateur

  • @RealJustinZiegler

    @RealJustinZiegler

    11 ай бұрын

    100%. I took Ed's Edutainer's course and I'm still learning. He understands YT out many levels deeper than me.

  • @davetriesthis

    @davetriesthis

    11 ай бұрын

    @@CreatorScienceYTwell I've subscribed to you both as a result so thanks.

  • @PamelaRuddyUKart

    @PamelaRuddyUKart

    11 ай бұрын

    Well, it's all fun and games until you want to find the video he did about a topic but can't remember the thumbnail or title that went with it and can't search for it 😂 But yes, I know I enjoy his videos and they are valuable so I watch them all as soon as I see them, definitely great at getting returning viewers!

  • @voodooaudio9488

    @voodooaudio9488

    7 ай бұрын

    He is, one of the top scammers a liars on KZread, but great at self marketing and selling hot air

  • @ccsaun
    @ccsaun11 ай бұрын

    Two best points from this; you need to be able to make something boring into something interesting & and that building a community of valued followers is way more important that getting heaps of views.

  • @CauterizeKing

    @CauterizeKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Right, but I'm still confused as to whether we should be aiming for high views, in order to get more leads into our businesses. He seems quite ambiguous on that point. I think aiming to get new people in by creating a video with broader appeal, if not every video then some videos, is a good way to tell the algorithm to pay more attention to you and find more of your ideal viewer. But, hey, Ed is great.

  • @zerocarb
    @zerocarb11 ай бұрын

    Ed is a legend. I implemented some of his ideas in one of my latest videos and the feedback I have received from my regular viewers has been super-positive.

  • @asiddiqi123

    @asiddiqi123

    11 ай бұрын

    Which video and what you implemented?

  • @pampierce
    @pampierce11 ай бұрын

    Film Booth is my favorite KZread training channel. I've watched most of his videos. But this is by far my favorite - he really explains what I've experienced when watching his videos. It finally sunk in. This was awesome! It's like a complete roadmap. THANKS!

  • @FarmTraveler
    @FarmTraveler11 ай бұрын

    YES! Anytime I randomly search for video ideas, this dude always comes up. He has such great advice!

  • @Jadethinks876
    @Jadethinks87611 ай бұрын

    This video is pure gold! I learned so much, thank you!

  • @GamerReality
    @GamerReality11 ай бұрын

    I’ve got to come back to this video often. It was surprisingly educational. I could wrap up of years of knowledge I’ve been learning on KZread.

  • @BarelyGamer
    @BarelyGamer8 ай бұрын

    Great questions!!! You literally asked him the stuff that I was wondering the most! And especially props on digging deep on Ed's process and the time spent!

  • @VickiONeill
    @VickiONeill11 ай бұрын

    Another great interview, Jay! Ed and the Film Booth channel is one I always watch and refer people to. There have been videos that he has drawn me in until the end and I'm like "What? That's the end??!" He's a great KZread, storyteller and visual creator. Thanks for sharing this highly valuable conversation with us!

  • @HandbookPod
    @HandbookPod11 ай бұрын

    Great interview Jay! Ed has nailed the KZread game, I remember him first appearing on my KZread Home Screen and he’s grown and evolved so much. You’re both a huge inspiration for me personally and the journey I’m about to embark on (finally stopped procrastinating 😅)

  • @TimLinklater
    @TimLinklater8 ай бұрын

    Love this episode! It is loaded with so many awesome tips! THANK YOU!!

  • @GemRippers
    @GemRippers11 ай бұрын

    I got SOOO much from this video, kept my pen & highlighters moving non-stop watching this one! So excited to utilize what I've learned here on this 1 particular "idea" that's been brewing in my head for months & needs to be made into a video for my niche / community. Thanks a ton to you both!

  • @adameskow562
    @adameskow56211 ай бұрын

    Guys you absolutely smashed this ep! So much value shared by Ed. Appreciate you probing further into the nuance Jay.

  • @smitinathan
    @smitinathan11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this! This was super interesting. I really love your interview style and questioning. So much value!

  • @MikeBSalazar
    @MikeBSalazar11 ай бұрын

    Real gems in here. Feel like I just went through an intro into Ed’s main course. So good.

  • @Sebastian0391
    @Sebastian03916 ай бұрын

    wow this one is just jam packed with great insights from Ed; excellent interview and questions as well Jay!

  • @FriendlyPharmacy5
    @FriendlyPharmacy511 ай бұрын

    This is a phenomenal episode. Many thanks to you both. 🙌

  • @H2Oravens
    @H2Oravens11 ай бұрын

    Hey Jay, been a follower of Ed for awhile and watched this because of him. Checked out your other content. Great collaboration. I am looking forward to going and watching the rest of your content.

  • @Jamielimyinyin
    @Jamielimyinyin11 ай бұрын

    Thanks Katie! Watched till the end, enjoying the vlogs with the bits of wisdom! Keep going your content inspires me :)

  • @yovee
    @yovee11 ай бұрын

    last 2 episodes are so on point. thanks for sharing Jay, completely changed my perspective

  • @shubhamkothari2709
    @shubhamkothari270911 ай бұрын

    Absolute treasure!! Loved every minute of this!! It was invaluable to learn about so many nuances in detail. Extremely GRATEFUL, thank you Jay & Ed❤️❤️

  • @Redbeardflynn
    @Redbeardflynn11 ай бұрын

    This was a fantastic video. I've been a fan of Ed for a while now, he delivers information in such a powerful way. You did a great job with this interview.

  • @BlueWonderLady
    @BlueWonderLady8 ай бұрын

    One of the very best vids on this topic ever! Thank you

  • @TheRetirementality
    @TheRetirementality11 ай бұрын

    I'm a big fan of Ed's and now I'm a fan of you. You did a great job interviewing him and pulling great tidbits out. I keep watching Ed tell me I'm boring but don't want to take the time to make my videos more fun. The time is now. New Sub.

  • @Kimchica
    @Kimchica11 ай бұрын

    Incredibly helpful and clear conversation -- thanks to you both for sharing!

  • @kaylamnobles
    @kaylamnobles10 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video. Loved the questions & responses. Very interesting and informative!

  • @simon_jakobsson
    @simon_jakobsson6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making these videos Jay, this is incredible helpful and inspiring!

  • @trainfarb
    @trainfarb11 ай бұрын

    Didn’t know about you or Film Booth before this popped up on my feed. You did something right with the thumbnail and title because it got me to watch and I ended up following both of you. Very solid interview. Thanks!

  • @FlipItFurniture
    @FlipItFurniture11 ай бұрын

    Jay these videos/interviews are gold! Everything a creator REALLY wants to know. Great work!

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @j10001
    @j100018 ай бұрын

    Outstanding video! Thank you

  • @LaughingInTiny
    @LaughingInTiny11 ай бұрын

    Ed's a genius. I happily watched his videos WAY before I thought about starting a channel just because he's so entertaining. I was (and am still) far more interested in his editing because it's brilliant. It's interesting how much I learned here about his process HERE after watching so many videos about the process.

  • @seoullista
    @seoullista11 ай бұрын

    Great interview. It's amazing how many of these insights could easily apply to strategies for any social content platform. Thanks for sharing!

  • @NomadicMidLife
    @NomadicMidLife11 ай бұрын

    Excellent interview! So many great take aways from this!

  • @BenGoshawk
    @BenGoshawk11 ай бұрын

    Great interview! His teaching style, ideas, and concepts are so unique. I don't think my channel would be here today without Ed's knowledge. I do exactly what he aims for with his channel, I binge his content

  • @FilmBooth

    @FilmBooth

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that😊

  • @TechWandererYT
    @TechWandererYT5 ай бұрын

    This was exceptional and I can't wait to start his cohort in a few days time. So much to learn!!

  • @DadBodFitness
    @DadBodFitness11 ай бұрын

    Really great video Jay, super awesome breakdown and it was insanely helpful to be able to understand actually looks like for a KZreadr doing this full-time

  • @joshua.butler
    @joshua.butler11 ай бұрын

    The amount of value in this video is incredible!!!

  • @DanKhanReal
    @DanKhanReal11 ай бұрын

    Amazing interview! Thank you 🙏

  • @scoughlin
    @scoughlin6 ай бұрын

    Putting your ego a side and staying humble haha, this is one for the best videos I have seen out there explaining how to retain peoples attention physiologically to your videos and explains how they think. This video give a lot of knowledgeable information and i thank you for sharing this. I will take this on board for my future videos and have already watched the video 20 times and took a lot of notes on each of the topics you have explained. Thanks for the video keep up the good work :)

  • @dawnchantel
    @dawnchantel9 ай бұрын

    I've been binging Ed's stuff for so long, I don't even remember when I first found him. And, when he said "mine are!" with such confidence (to the comment about assuming the viewers are smart), my heart soared a little. 🤣 Thank you so much for this interview! Your questions were insightful and really got me thinking, and Ed, it was great seeing your behind the scenes process - to see that you have to work through the same types of challenges really made me feel like less of a freak. ;) Sometimes I just assume that everyone else has got it all figured out, and it's encouraging to hear that I'm not alone & that even though it may never really go away, I will get better the more that I learn and practice.

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    9 ай бұрын

    so glad you enjoyed it!

  • @the-futures-coach
    @the-futures-coach11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for breaking down Ed's thinking. I watch and enjoy his videos, but your interview made it clear to me: in my content, I merely provide lists and need to inject interest and stories. Thanks, Jay!

  • @MakeSomething
    @MakeSomething11 ай бұрын

    these interviews are packed with knowledge. great work!

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @rysky007
    @rysky00711 ай бұрын

    I have watched many videos from various channels on these topics, and from this video I got some of the best nuggets, thank you..I have some changes to my process to make

  • 8 ай бұрын

    I have just add a playlist "best for inspiration" to fit this such powerfull podcast. Thak you guys so much for such a great content.

  • @pleasantmemorieseducation-ican
    @pleasantmemorieseducation-ican11 ай бұрын

    Thank you.... This is VERY valuable information.

  • @theinvestingcorner
    @theinvestingcorner11 ай бұрын

    I love Ed, he's someone that has reflected a loooot about youtube, great questions really, same as with Paddy Galloway, gret job man, keep up! 💪💪

  • @wasthataflute
    @wasthataflute11 ай бұрын

    LOVE the detail. You swapped 70/20 to 45/45 as he reconsidered, even though he said 50/50, because of course you gotta film something, and dang what a long sentence, but it was so satisfying.

  • @RisingApe
    @RisingApe11 ай бұрын

    Another amazing guest and interview thanks

  • @Pazjor
    @Pazjor11 ай бұрын

    Eye-opening conversation. Ed’s expertise and Jay asking the right questions gave us a ton of valuable info.

  • @AdityaBhave.
    @AdityaBhave.11 ай бұрын

    Yup, Ed is right, I have always binge watched atleast 3 videos back to back whenever I start watching his videos..I realized it now how effective that is..thanks bro n cheers🍻

  • @mamotivated
    @mamotivated11 ай бұрын

    Rock solid episode. Great reframing

  • @TheCoralReefTalk
    @TheCoralReefTalk11 ай бұрын

    Great video Jay!! Lots of great advice in there! Awesome channel!

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    thanks for checking us out!

  • @healthyrootsstrongwings538
    @healthyrootsstrongwings5386 ай бұрын

    Amazing video. Thanks for sharing. Great info

  • @YouTubeProTips
    @YouTubeProTips7 ай бұрын

    Good stuff. Storytelling is a crucial aspect of creating engaging and successful videos on KZread. Being able to deliver a good story can help you connect with your audience on an emotional level and keep them hooked till the end.

  • @itsalldoable
    @itsalldoable4 ай бұрын

    Great interview with Ed. Everything Ed says is absolutely spot on. I discovered him a few months ago and am using his teaching to transform my flagging channel. Watch and learn from this and you won't go wrong...

  • @jonrich9675
    @jonrich967511 ай бұрын

    such a good and informative video. Thanks for this interview

  • @bahram_t
    @bahram_t11 ай бұрын

    i wish this video was like 2 hrs lol. so helpful. great work Jay!

  • @spiritualreliefchannel
    @spiritualreliefchannel11 ай бұрын

    Good interview and content, many thanks 🎉

  • @CriticasDeCineEn2Minutos
    @CriticasDeCineEn2Minutos11 ай бұрын

    Very nice rhythm and I love the break ad, tv pro!

  • @danimordecai7611
    @danimordecai761111 ай бұрын

    Wow very cool vid. Love how so honest you both are. This is 101 marketing....making something very boring sound sooo exciting !!

  • @StevetheBartender_
    @StevetheBartender_11 ай бұрын

    Great interview Jay, questions were in point! And Ed was super informative.. 🎉

  • @ChrisGloss
    @ChrisGloss9 ай бұрын

    Great conversation and ideas!

  • @RedDevilVR
    @RedDevilVR11 ай бұрын

    One of the best KZread guide videos of 2023

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    That means a lot!

  • @peegee13kidsABC
    @peegee13kidsABC9 ай бұрын

    You guys are life savers!

  • @lailas.legacy
    @lailas.legacy11 ай бұрын

    I love Ed's videos, he's so good at what he does.

  • @sweatdadi385
    @sweatdadi38511 ай бұрын

    Very much valuable episode...thanks for this..as a beginner I enjoy my channel journey hopefully after 2-3 years from now it will grow..love lot's

  • @Sn4fu
    @Sn4fu11 ай бұрын

    Ed is one of my favorite educators. This interview has me sold on him for life what a genuinely nice guy. I really love his other channel creator booth too. Also im now a Jay Clouse fan haha. This was my second video that popped up for me and I watched the whole thing. Subbed and belled looking forward to your next video! Finzar might be a fun interview I'd throw into the hat if you're taking suggestions.

  • @FilmBooth

    @FilmBooth

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your kind words, means a lot

  • @TanjaminKhan
    @TanjaminKhan11 ай бұрын

    Fantastic Episode !

  • @zacmason
    @zacmason11 ай бұрын

    Can't wait to watch this!!!

  • @poletagonist
    @poletagonist9 ай бұрын

    Love this! And love Ed's work. And Liv's too.

  • @CapriaTalks
    @CapriaTalks11 ай бұрын

    This was a really good video I didn’t know I needed to watch

  • @TopFinancialAlpha
    @TopFinancialAlpha11 ай бұрын

    I like your channel Jay, and I love having Film Booth in on your videos!

  • @MeetKevon
    @MeetKevon11 ай бұрын

    Learned a ton - thanks Ed and Jay :D

  • @industrialize
    @industrialize11 ай бұрын

    Great interview Jay, I've been a fan of Ed's for a long time now!

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    He’s great! Thanks for watching, Chad!

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick11 ай бұрын

    Great interview 👍. Your questions got to the core of Ed's approach. I needed a lift after the shock of Nate-gate. I make tutorials so it's an interesting challenge how to incorporate stories - Ed's soup story showed me how a story hijacks the viewer's brain better even than the momentary effect of a question.

  • @bobninda
    @bobninda5 ай бұрын

    This was a masterclass!!

  • @sebastianroberts3495
    @sebastianroberts349517 күн бұрын

    Ed is my favorite KZreadr rn

  • @SoundConstraints
    @SoundConstraints6 ай бұрын

    4th time watching this, adding notes to my script template. Ed is the goat

  • @ZEUS-2099
    @ZEUS-209911 ай бұрын

    Ed is the goat hes helped tons of people and already huge youtubers an amazing vid! so crazy not a lot of people watch these your vids have so much information and people are not even realizing there giving the best ways to blow up quick but get insane views lol.

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    11 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate that! we’re working hard over here!

  • @zacmason
    @zacmason11 ай бұрын

    this interview was epic. watching again.

  • @olenapravylo
    @olenapravylo10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for fruitful content. Learn a lot 🙏

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @marthonwalls3978
    @marthonwalls39788 ай бұрын

    Awesome 😎 tnks man

  • @RetroGamingMusicCom
    @RetroGamingMusicCom11 ай бұрын

    Wow! 😮 🎉 What an awesome video! Very captivating! I took alot of screenshots of the bullet points. I need to subscribe on both you and Ed Lawrence. ❤❤❤

  • @treywillis
    @treywillis9 ай бұрын

    Pure freakin gold. Ed is a beast

  • @jamiesouza
    @jamiesouza11 ай бұрын

    Such a great interview on storytelling and how to make interesting videos and NOT boring ones! LOL!

  • @millionairemoxie
    @millionairemoxie11 ай бұрын

    Man, Ed can come up with a great intro - something I would aspire to - just as a rough example. 👏

  • @RheaPrivateAccount-nf3kl
    @RheaPrivateAccount-nf3kl11 ай бұрын

    I'm a big fan of Film Booth. Very good content, thank you so much!

  • @hollytaylor-reeves
    @hollytaylor-reeves4 ай бұрын

    THANK YOUU for this. i always use to feel bad for telling stories especially my personal storeis in fear of making it "too much bout me" !

  • @TheBradfords
    @TheBradfords7 ай бұрын

    Ed is one of my favorites! The guy is so smart

  • @AndrewGuyspeaks
    @AndrewGuyspeaks11 ай бұрын

    Jay....loving this bro....new to KZread....in terms of growing your community...

  • @kbaxterpackwood
    @kbaxterpackwood11 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I'm definitely a boring person, now I know what I can work on to cure this issue to be more engaging with my viewers.

  • @johnleesuccess
    @johnleesuccess5 ай бұрын

    thanks for this 🙏

  • @TedNemeth
    @TedNemeth11 ай бұрын

    Ed gives metaphors about using metaphors. Love it.

  • @FilmBooth

    @FilmBooth

    11 ай бұрын

    😅😂

  • @DariuszTech
    @DariuszTech11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this. I definitely need to apply more storytelling even on my tech KZread channel 😊 Challenging but possible 💪

  • @breast-cancer-rehab
    @breast-cancer-rehab4 ай бұрын

    All of your interviews provide so much value! During these interviews where do you keep your questions (paper, on computer) as there is an ease to your conversations? How about if it was in-person (paper, teleprompter)? Thanks for the awesome content.

  • @tfkdandsvkc
    @tfkdandsvkc11 ай бұрын

    Ed is the best youtube educator ever him and think media are just perfection

  • @leapnlarry
    @leapnlarry8 ай бұрын

    Package the idea then make a video. Click on what they want then deliver what they need. Undue the click bait. Educational channels that are using story are genius, make it som much more engaging to stick with the video. What is your story to lean into. I have been watching film booth for a while but i love this interview, lots to takeaways. Every video should have a goal. Be honest with yourself, if its boring then fix it with as story or metaphor. I love the keys across the table story. Create a story that they want to know what happens at the end. Another great interview, i love your choice of guests, excellent audio and video quality make it easier to watch a 35 min video beginning to end. Larry

  • @philkellr
    @philkellr2 ай бұрын

    Watching this after having done my first real video and thinking "this could have been a lot better". This interview opened a whole new world to me about storytelling. Thanks Jay for being such a good interviewer.

  • @CreatorScienceYT

    @CreatorScienceYT

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!