you’re so right. for example, us as fans tend to sexualise things that aren’t even sexual from the start. it’s like pole-dancing, for example, a beautiful and extremely hard dance and form of art, which has now been sexualised and used to objectify women. i feel like, if an idol isn’t obviously uncomfortable in an outfit, there’s nothing sexual or wrong about it until fans decide to sexualise it!

@chloe2059

3 жыл бұрын

They are turning the song into something it's not.

@nastynat1001

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Me too, at first, I was influenced by negativity surrounding it. When I decided to try it, I fell in love with. I'm a dancer and man pole-dancing is so damn hard. I have so much respect for those ladies. I thought I was in shape and I had wakeup call. Absolutely not. it is beautiful art form and keep you in shape. I love it. I really miss it though.

@mariakiwi1428

2 жыл бұрын

Yep pole dancing has such a stigma around it. Two cases that come to mind are two people who competed in talent shows in Europe (different countries but both still quite conservative). A young man and a young girl, these athletes were incredible, absolutely phenomenal, the amount of strength they had to have in order to do what they did was just unbelievable. There was nothing sexual about their numbers either, however, there were still people that commented that these type of things are simply inappropriate in its existence. Still I think they were the first time I saw people really appreciate the artistry behind it.

@oopssenpai8208

2 жыл бұрын

"which has now been..." you do know strippers came up with pole dancing right? Don't discredit them. However I do agree that it is a form of art that I admire and with your final point. Take Yuna from itzy for example, people whine that jype sexualizes her by giving her crop tops, like excuse me? She's a 18y.o fresh girl, have they seen girls her age? Not everyone like hoodies and baggy clothes jeez

@929er13

2 жыл бұрын

fr. like some people try to make all songs about something se*ual and it's like ???

This type of education is K-Pop is what I've been wanting!!!

As a dancer, I thought people admired idols for their talent and their looks just like I did, but after a while, I realized there was more than that. Seeing people treat idols like they're sexual objects and companies encouraging this was just not it. It's a very serious problem yet people are turning a blind eye and treating it as a joke. It's not okay, it never will be.

@chinestupigan334

3 жыл бұрын

same!!!!

@madelineionna

3 жыл бұрын

definitely, especially since the majority of nowadays kpop fans MOST PROBABLY came for visuals and handsome & pretty human beings. acting like they were taken entranced by their "charisma" or their "talents" when in reality, the exact reason why people stan or like these people are bc of how they look. and whats embarassing is that these people dont hide that at all. the kpop community is so very toxic its just hard.

@sltslt24

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't learn about fanfics until I got into college. It's honestly so sad when you see how people normalize it.

Speaking of JYP, I remember 2PM's Wooyoung mentioning that the members were not even aware of how dirty some of their songs lyrics were when he was questioned in an interview about why one of their songs was deemed unsuitable for broadcast!

Its not only the male fans its even the female fans who will wait for their idols to turn 18 to write fanfictions on them. I remember seeing this post of a fans saying that they were waiting for heuningkai to turn 18 so they can start making videos on him. Like how disgusting and creepy is that. Even niki is being sexualized and he's only 15.

@iluvuforever

2 жыл бұрын

Disgusting. No one should be sexualised!!! Not men. not women .not minors

@CaraTheStrange

Жыл бұрын

I have a friend who was born on the same day as niki, I can’t begin to express how gross it is to me to even imagine someone waiting for her or anyone else to turn 18 and then they can oversexualise and objectify them openly. Because come on, we know those people allready are fantasising about the idols while they are underage, just in private.

@sakuravelvet

Жыл бұрын

yep and there are a bunch older women who sexualize the younger kpop idols, the equivalent of uncle fans and people don't talk about them or try to defend these boys from them.

@qd9493

9 ай бұрын

​QA p

a lot... and I mean A LOT of kpop fans (of both boy and girl groups need to watch this). the amount of times i see people on twitter 'compliment' their faves by going on about their bodies is weird af

@nastynat1001

3 жыл бұрын

Not only fans. Anyone that loves music period.

@naledimosikara7861

2 жыл бұрын

It was so uncomfortable seeing a lot of people talk about itzy ryujin and Yuna's bodies 🤮

@zelavelt

2 жыл бұрын

@@naledimosikara7861 wait they're talking about yuna's body too?? isnt she like 16?

which is why I'm comfortable stanning dreamcatcher. they're not sexualized, the member that wanna do sexy concept can do it tho. the CEO even scold one of the members that force themself to do diet, and told them they don't have to do diet, told them they're pretty, and cool. THIS is how kpop should be.

@NotAnotherAccount735

2 жыл бұрын

Yeeeess, i agree that now the girls have one of the best treatments that i have seen in kpop! insomnia here :) But as minx that was a huge problem imo.The shots the lyrics the 2 underage members and their sister group was sexualized too. I dont know but Im pretty sure something change drastically in their managment specially after they became dc company, that is a sub label.

@alimac7374

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotAnotherAccount735 from what I understand hfe (now dcc) did a clean sweep of the company after dreamcatcher's senior group, dal shabet, formally disbanded/left the company, again from my understanding, they went and switched out a lot of staff that used to work in the company so that's why I think things feel different than minx era because there were totally new staff from when hfe did dal shabet/minx

@loonatheuniverse8146

2 жыл бұрын

They were sexually exploited during their Minx days tho. HFE was shit for that but now im happy they don't do it anymore, either bcoz they need no creeps to check out DC and fill their pockets since DC have gotten big or they have learned their lesson and did the right thing in return unlike most/other companies.

19:40 When she called him baby I literally CRINGED INTO THE ABYSS.

@woojincubs2058

3 жыл бұрын

Same I was like gurlllll shut up it's tooo much don't do that 😭

@emotionaldamage9894

3 жыл бұрын

Ewwwww

@likeastickaastickaastickaa2686

2 жыл бұрын

@@woojincubs2058 ikr?? she was talking in a creepyass weird way, wtf i was like ???

@woojincubs2058

2 жыл бұрын

@@likeastickaastickaastickaa2686 pls- if it was a female idol and a male "fan" talked like that it would have been bigger.

I hope these fans realize the reality and come out of their dream world. And I really feel bad for the idols! The fact Everyone getting abused it doesn't matter if it is a male or female. They are getting abused and sexualized by teens.

Just to clarify, Wonyoung wasn´t 15 years old when she performed side to side, she was 13 YEARS OLD. She was 15 in korean age but she was born in august of 2004 and produce48 was aired from may to august of 2018, which means she performed all stages at 13 YEARS OLD and turned only 14 the day the final line up of IZ*ONE was decided which makes up the whole situation of "healthy pornografy" a lot more disturbing

@fayyomie6873

2 жыл бұрын

It started at June 15th not May

@sofiapeaches8518

2 жыл бұрын

@@fayyomie6873 Oh hahaha, it doesn't take away the point tho but thanks

@fayyomie6873

2 жыл бұрын

@@sofiapeaches8518 you're welcome, i remembered i watched it since the auditions so yea

@miloran3332

2 жыл бұрын

oh noo... how can it be worse..

@ShootingStarStudio

10 ай бұрын

motherf….i’m 2 months older than Wonyoung. wth am I doing with my life?

I really love that u explained the difference between being "sexy" and "oversexualisation"

Ok that girl with han was so creep. he looked somewhat uncomfortable. Its so disturbing to watch.

something ive noticed is that when a female idol is sexualized by their company/fans (especially when theyre minors), nobody says anything but when those idols grow up and take control of their sexuality, the sl*t shaming never ends

@tolanisimpson5360

2 жыл бұрын

True, I noticed this too, it's disgusting and says A LOT about the majority of kpop fans

Also.... I don't understand why they sexualise the word daddy.... Like, it's a term that a kid call their father.... What the hell, people....

@woojincubs2058

3 жыл бұрын

Same goes with oppa it's actually a word to address a old man probably who are in their 20s

@hsnrb9959

3 жыл бұрын

@@woojincubs2058 No, 'oppa' means older brother. A 5 year old boy can be an 'oppa'. It's disgusting that 'older brother' is sexualised

@woojincubs2058

3 жыл бұрын

@@hsnrb9959 ik but these kpop stans changed the meaning

@sunghoonthelegend5241

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh plz Daddy is a kink that is related to bdsm community Even Johnny from nct explained it lol But anyways Yes I am against these kpop fans calling idols daddy cuz that's so cringe and creepy (UNTIL they said it themselves like BM from kard said he have no problem fans calling him daddy and many other khip hop rappers said the same along with other kpop idols) But overall daddy was just a kink used in bdsm community ya know people have their own sexual desires which is their own thing you might not be comfortable with but yeah plz respect Daddy is a term and a kink used in bdsm community AGES ago But remember I'm against kpop fans who use this term on idols (sorry for my bad english)

@woojincubs2058

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunghoonthelegend5241 jhonny from nct lmao 😂

There's something I've noticed in K-pop recently. The current idols debuting seem to be getting younger and younger, I mean 16?! And the concepts are usually mature. I'm currently staning a limited number of K-pop groups now cuz of this.

@soniakc4037

3 жыл бұрын

the kpop idustry has always been debuting very young idols its not something new take for example sehun , suzy, taemin, tzuyu, jungkook and many more its been done since the 2nd generation and maybe even the first one and with mature concepts as you said like for example miss a which debuted with good girl bad girl while suzy was 15 and she and the members have already expressed discompfort toward that song and performing its choreography

@KW-hs2pn

3 жыл бұрын

@@soniakc4037 True

@jenniehye

2 жыл бұрын

I think the best age to debut is 20 or maybe above 18

@twice__drippin_stan4676

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that Koki is a 12 years old guy from PNation team on the survival show Loud and his fans are mad when someone tells them that he is too young to debut...

@sunjochoi7145

2 жыл бұрын

No, they have always debuted extremely young idols. Boa - 13 F(x) Sulli - 15 F(x) Krystal - 14 Red Velvet Yeri - 16 MissA Suzy - 15 Twice Tzuyu - 15 Twice Chaeyoung - 16 I.o.I Somi - 15 Wonder Girls Hyuna - 15 Wonder Girls Sunmi - 15 Wonder Girls Sohee - 14 IZ*One Wonyoung - 14 SNSD Seohyun - 16 2NE1 Minzy - 15 4Minute Sohyun - 12 and 14 Kara Jiyoung - 14 IZ*One Yujin - 15 T-ara Jiyeon - 16 Oh my girl Arin - 15 Hello Venus Yooyoung - 15 Gugudan Hyeyoung - 15 Apink Hayoung - 14 April Jinsol - 13 IU - 16 Shinee Taemin - 14 Shinee Minho - 16 Shinee Key - 16 BigBang Seungri - 15 NCT Dream Jisung - 14 NCT Dream Chenle - 15 NCT Dream Jaemin - 16 NCT Dream Renjun - 16 NCT Dream Jeno - 16 NCT Dream Haechan - 16 Tvxq Changmin - 16 BTS Jungkook - 15 B.A.P. Zelo - 15

girllll here in some latin american countries some fans throw their freaking bras to singers in concert...while the most of them like it and its like "oh yeah she loves me" they have been doing this to kpop idols and im just like...WHY...i remember that taemin from shinee was talking about it and they asked him if he liked it and he answered "can i be honest? yes i do" but again is no excuse you dont know exactly how they will feel (probably he was trying to be polite i dont know him) to be like that...and believe me is so normal..im sorry but if some male fan throw his underwear to a girl in a concert everyone WILL not be happy

@Carolina-bw6gy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. And when they do interviews here as well the issue remains. It aint just the dating questions, they ask intrusive shit to make them embarassed or the interview more "funny"

@an____ka

3 жыл бұрын

PLZ SOMEONE THREW A BRA AT JIN ONCE DURING A CONCERT AND HE WAS SO ANNOYED HE WALKED TO THE OTHER SIDE AND DIDN'T CAME BACK TO THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE

@Couchpotaytoooo

3 жыл бұрын

@@an____ka i remember that incident

@ShaylaEnoch-dw9fc

7 ай бұрын

This Ong, 💯💯💯💯!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

This really reminded of some armys i saw in my baby army days when I was digging up their old performances and stuff and how many were going on and on in the comment section "I miss Jimin's playboy/seductive/sexy side" and how he has now gotten "soft" .. it made me wonder if his personality rn (deemed as soft by others) is his real personality and that playboy aura was something he tried to embody for fanservice? There was also the time when jimin actually talked about his shoulder flip in blood sweat and tears and how "fans only like him when he reveals some skin" ... This makes me wonder if this sexual exploitation of idols puts pressure on them that they need to act provocative since it is a part of their job and if they don't, no one will notice them?

@chimeowmeow_22

2 жыл бұрын

i’m army too and is really sad cuz they have such a talent and uniqueness in the kpop industry, and yet people objectivefy them as some sexual toys for them to play when in reality they are human too.

@somethingbehindyou5337

2 жыл бұрын

Not an army, but in ao3, BTS is one of the fandoms with the most smut fanfiction. I was honestly uncomfortable with that fact because it seems like these fans only see them as something to satisfy their desires. And when someone calls them out, the respond with "________ is an adult so its ok" which is sick. Hell, in fanfiction, they make IU the ex girlfriend (mostly in jungkook y/n fanfics). In the comments they insult her, call her a slut, say that her popularity is because of BTS, and even threaten to harm her and her family! Do you really think you have a chance with him or the other members? IU was already popular domestically even when BTS wasn't even formed. Honestly just stop treating both male and female idols like their not even human.

@KpopStan2009

2 жыл бұрын

I was a fan since 2015 and I could tell it was 100% fanservice I also remember Jimin feeling alot of pressure to have muscles like in the debut mv so he fequently tried to get muscles and if he didn't he felt bad and felt like he dissapointed fans

@seokiology

2 жыл бұрын

i was watching their festa 2014 video and they revealed they and esp jimin were so uncomfortable with showing their abs during their debut choreography! just shows u how much bighit exploited bts. The scary part was in korea the legal age is 19 NOT 18, so jimin, v and jk were underage while doing it

Honestly, it makes me so mad to hear about Idols getting abused and treated like crap. I sometimes wonder to myself like how many of these idols have been harassed, raped, etc by people in their companies?

the han situation makes me uncomfortable to the point where I cant watch

@ShaylaEnoch-dw9fc

7 ай бұрын

Fr; that woman on that fancall was so 😳😬😭

Finally someone who knows the truth, is willing and has the means to say it.

honestly we need more kpop fans like you and me who love kpop for the music and performances but at the same time are ready to deal with all these genuine problems like mature people rather than pretending everything is okay and pretending that the kpop group we stan isnt involved in all this. really really appreciate the effort you put in. Thank you

@LovelyKissess

3 жыл бұрын

Why did I see this comment before

@oishipoddar5655

3 жыл бұрын

@@LovelyKissess I posted it a few days back maybe you came across it by chance?

@LovelyKissess

3 жыл бұрын

@@oishipoddar5655 Ok it has to be that. I was having deja Vu lol

@Jeongyeongiloveyou

Жыл бұрын

@@LovelyKissess or maybe they posted 2 times (its a glitch that happens commonly)

@LovelyKissess

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeongyeongiloveyou Well, they said they posted it s few days before already

I'm glad that you talked about this. I remember watching a video on KOOKLIET'S channel about K-pop idols who were uncomfortable with her outfits and she said that Stellar was the worst. When I first heard about Stellar, I thought that they were doing this because they were ok with it, but when I found out that they were forced to do it on KOOKLIET'S channel, it made me really sad.

One word - wow. From a psychological standpoint, the imagery and editing choices used here are MASTERFUL. The shaking frames add an air of unease, while the tense music in the background builds on this. Triangles and triangle motifs are commonly seen as dangerous, and the use of sharp points in the graphic design of this video is such a smart choice. I love seeing creators who care about and emulate real moviemaking techniques in their videos.

I feel so uncomfortable watching Joy whenever she’s either performing or at award shows because her dresses barely cover the top of her legs. And it’s not “Her clothes are too revealing so I’m uncomfortable”. Wear whatever you want. Your life, your body. I don’t care. It’s that you can see her fidgeting and readjusting her clothes every few seconds that you can tell that SHE isn’t comfortable in her own clothes. She looks stunning, but it’s obvious that she’d prefer something longer or to wear some form of pants/shorts/leggings/etc under her dresses. It’s so upsetting to see her looking so miserable 😭💚

@iluvuforever

2 жыл бұрын

Joy has an objectively very nice body, your right; if someone wants to wear something that's "sexy" or "exposing" is fine - it's there life an body. But the truth is is that we don't know if they gave consent or are comfortable with it.

@anushkakulkarni112

2 жыл бұрын

I swr like why can't stylists just increase the length by like 5 cm, I mean they're dancing, the clothes are gonna ride up, I get this is what safety shorts are for but seriously

Speaking of JYPE, weren't they also the ones responsible for that famous song 'Adult Ceremony/Coming of Age Ceremony' about a young woman who says she wants to have sexual relationships with a man who has been waiting for the day she is no longer a child, and that many idols have covered once they become legal adults? 🤢

Please ?! Only 2.5k subs ? Your videos are so well made, you really deserve more

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

My realisation came with the G.NA prostitution scandal. I have never been able to look at the industry the same way.

@estefaniaramirezgarcia839

3 жыл бұрын

can you explain a little bit abt it?😅

@hanniesastayarohaujungtomo736

3 жыл бұрын

@@estefaniaramirezgarcia839 channel-korea.com/gna-prostitution-scandal/ this is a short summary (there is a second page). Honestly, whatever, really happened, it really opened my eyes to the flaws in the industry. G.NA was an incredibly talented singer under Cube (her voice is still one of my favourites to date). There was a scandal, and now I don’t know what to think. All I know is that I miss hearing her sing, and that I’m wary of what is happening behind the scenes.

did you know that there is a song called coming of age ceremony and idols that become of age cover this song as a gift to there fans. not to mention the song was written by jyp.

The fact that groups’ age range become younger and younger is also an issue. There are kpop idols who are literally my age. My freaking age. Like, there is nothing wrong with it but it just seems sketchy when those idols who are minor dont even “look like minors”; they seem to appear older but in reality, they are underage.

Fan fics can be cute. You think that two idols will be/are cute together and wanna write an innocent fan fic of them dating, getting married, starting a family and living happily ever after? Adorable. Go for it. But some of these fan fics are so perverse and disgusting... Like... I’m friends and acquaintances with “adult entertainers” and THEY’D be uncomfortable reading these fan fics. Imagine how the actual idols would feel. Even Taehying of BTS has said that he hates fan fics like that because of how gross he feels when he sees it. And fans are out he flooding the idol’s comments section on Instagram, Twitter, etc. trying to push these writing in hopes that the idols will see and read them. There’s no escaping it.

@rize5288

2 жыл бұрын

I mostly agree with you, but taehyung didn't say anything like that.

Another thing that i really hate fans forcing their idols to do is to aegyo, especially during video calls event...

i would say that just wearing short dresses\skirts evealing clothes doesnt = "s*xual" but then i remember how many men react to this, their comments, the gifs they make, the "nsfw" subreddits and i understand what ppl mean...why cant some people just see a pretty dress as a pretty dress and not read into it and project their weird fantasy on women? if they didnt do that we could dress in any pretty outfit without worrying but :(

I can accept it if the Idols themselves agree on doing these "sexual" concepts but it really is concerning and uncomfortable to see some companies sexualize such young teenage boys and girls! In my opinion its wrong because they are young and vulnerable to the Public's eye so if wearing and doing certain things like that it may make them feel uncomfortable but they might be to scared and timid to speak up . Take Niki from Enhypen for example , I saw people calling him daddy and saying the most disgusting things ever!! Like omfg people! Calm down he's a child!! The boy is only 15 years not 20!!!! I really hope companies stop this and just let them follow their own theme or once they are at the proper age then they can introduce such concepts to them . Then again this is just my opinion guys .

@alenec

Жыл бұрын

9l

@ShaylaEnoch-dw9fc

7 ай бұрын

Fr; you're speaking 💯💯💯💯 FACTS

Hello, I'm an Indian subscriber and I would like to point out that the only times us girls are allowed to show our stomachs is when we wear traditional clothes such as sarees or lehengas,the moment we wear crop tops which are abit higher(that also includes wearing deep cut tops, showing too much leg, etc) we get weird stares from males and females alike but they are mostly of the older generations. Things are changing in the big cities, but the situation is still the same in the towns and the rural areas. I could recall times when my grandmothers(both side of my parents) were alive, used to tell me about the times when they used to just wrap their sarees in such a way so they didn't wear blouses underneath their sarees, but after the British Raj deemed it inappropriate and had sexually abused them, the women then started to cover their breasts with blouses and then wrapping their sarees over it .

You are so underrated, your videos are so well made and you always spit facts

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

I love stellar music. The first time I saw them I loved them immediately. At the time I thought these girls were pushing boundaries and I love that. But now knowing the truth and finding out how one of the members has been left traumatized, it hurts so much. I feel awful for loving their music. I swear to God that tzuyu elevator dance has haunted me for all the wrong reasons. I'm not that much older then her and I still don't like to show off my body yet. I can only imagine how she must have felt. Giiiirl when I tell you about fanfiction..... I stayed far far far from them. I read one chapter of a jungkook fan fiction and it destroyed my soul. I stayed far far far away from these stories. I was on the moon that's how far I was from them. Loved you video. You give such motivation about a woman's body and also teaching me a lot. Thank you.💚 🥰💙

@nguyenhatien1787

2 жыл бұрын

Stellar's music actually sounds good, it's catchy and all members have nice voices. The problem is their outfit and their choreography. So I think if we do feel bad for them, let's just listen to their music only, skip the music video part.

Sponsor culture is pretty 'normal' for entertainment industry in the whole world, even before the modern age. That's why performers and artists were considered just a little above prostitutes and had a very low social class.

in conclusion don’t over sexualize anyone no matter the gender

@anyone1111

Жыл бұрын

Or the age

The over sexualization of male idols don’t get talked about much because no one cares .

@LovelyKissess

3 жыл бұрын

I was just saying this when I watched another video. Over sexualizing men is normalized to women, but the other way around people find disgusting when they're both the same and need to be treated that way

@anyone1111

Жыл бұрын

Legit I couldn’t agree more. I could rant about this all friggin day 😮‍💨

@notanormalcivilian65

Жыл бұрын

@@LovelyKissessThe ese things happen a lot. You may know about the Johnny Depp vs amber turd case by now. I can't say how proud I am of Johnny Depp for speaking up. Sexism has no gender. Objectification has no gender. Over sexualization has no gender. People need to realize all of this once and for all. And I definitely think the case has had a huge impact on the way people view these things.

@LovelyKissess

Жыл бұрын

@@notanormalcivilian65 It had a great impact but not as big as it should have, but it's definitely a start. Now a lot more people than before can understand that men really do go through crap and a lot of women lie

@notanormalcivilian65

Жыл бұрын

@@LovelyKissess yeah, you're right

I will never sexualized female idols cuz I look them as a nice person, talented and humble and I never read fanfics about them (i done even have wattpad). I'm a hetero fanboy but i support so much boygroup lol.

@Jeongyeongiloveyou

Жыл бұрын

That's fine im a women (Aromantic) and i like ggs (only ggs but in bgs stray kids)

As an Indian, I have to say that if you wear traditional clothes which expose your belly then that's okay but wearing a crop top is usually unacceptable...

everglow up sounds so professional ahhhh

The fanfiction part reminded me a lot to the AO3 scandal with Xiao Zhan (not kpop, he's Chinese but still) i mean sending dead threats? Man what was the point? Just because they banned AO3? Ya'll can survive without fanfiction, and still, keep that to yourself! If you don't want to stop from sexualizing in that way idols, actors etc etc, at least don't involve the artist!

@sristidas715

2 жыл бұрын

Pls dude I remember it too, it was horrifying. A lot of people were angry and upset because that was their means of income but still it's not the celebrity's fault if their fanbase is writing something that got the app to be banned.

@luna740

2 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about?

Reminds me of Girl’s Day. They used to have a really cute concept. They weren’t popular then and were on the verge of disbanding. They switched to sexier concepts and they became a huge hit. It was insane.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP ON YOUR PLATFORM - SO MANY FANDOMS ARE SO TOXIC AND ARE MASKING THEIR LUST BEHIND "LOVE FOR THE ARTIST"!!! Like I understand if they're hormonal teenagers, but they need to be TAUGHT that this type of behaviour is NOT tolerable otherwise it just perpetuates bad treatment of the idols and it hurts the fans who genuinely like their music and appreciate them as artists and not commercialized products!!!

I just want to clarify the showing belly thing in India it's is only really considered ok if you are wearing the traditional dress a saree anything other than that like crop top you are basically considered uncultured for wearing that

I literally try to avoid those type of fanfics on wattpad...I am not a mentally healthy person irl, the last thing I need is those fics LOL

The fanfic part is so true , I remember whenever i used to type Jungkook's name on KZread a fanfic about him being a rapist, abuser, etc.. would always pop up, these ff author need to check themselves because just how can you write something like this and promote it as "Hot"

this was so informative and articulated amazingly. great video

Ngl lie I legit felt like I'm seeing a journalist addressing these 😊 So beautifully presented I agree with

this was a fantastic video, mentioning the faults of both companies & fans. this deserves way more views and a lot of kpop fans should actually see it to understand this issue better! btw this is exactly why i had to unstan itzy, i really can't stand how they manage yuna, it makes me upset and angry. which is sad cause i love her and itzy's music.

Omg I'm so glad you're speaking out on this because 1: a lot(yes a lot) of these kpop stans really need to hear and understand this! Both boy and girl group fans really need to realize that these idols are human beings and they deserve respect and decorum and boundaries

Gurl, never stop preaching

i seriously have been thinking of this for a while and you couldn’t have explained it better. Thank you, seriously

okay i know this is really off topic and this is a serious video but the way you lined up the part of 'Fancy - Twice' where Jeongyeon says "Fantasy" and then you saying "Fantasy" is something i cant stop thinking about 5:32

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

I saw that after editing, it was a complete coincidence I swear...lol

@WooTwiceTeez

3 жыл бұрын

How come you can be so accurate? 😮😮

Literally why don’t you have millions of followers ????? Your content needs to be heard by everyone ! Keep up the good job !!

This was so well done I felt like I was watching a Netflix show!! This needs to be talking more about fr fr. Thank you for making this video God bless you 💓💓

thanks for making this video. this is a real problem that lots of kpop fans tend to overlook/brush off. it's just sad because i think most idols don't have the power to set their boundaries and tell their fans what's okay and not okay, because in a way it can break the fantasy they're trying to sell to their fans... kpop idols have a lot of talent, it's just sad that most of the time they don't have control over what they do. i hope in the future this can change, and i guess this change needs to start from the fans first

Can I just add that American fans wait until a male idol is 18 to publicly sexualized them even though the age of consent is 21/20 in SK. This fact has been bothering me a lot, because female fans talk about female idols getting sexualized but are okay with it when it's males(both are wrong!). Also I'm not sure how to put it but it seems (from my observations) that American fans try to Amercanize Kpop like with laws and whatnot. Also wtf is up with fangirls being misandrists? They're always saying "I hate men,all men should die" and even say "X idol hates men, we Stan"? Like if a dude said this towards women everyone would "cancel" him.

@bougie_pink

2 жыл бұрын

PREACH, didn’t a fourth gen female gg member got hate because her fans made videos claiming she hates men

@iluvuforever

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!!

@likeastickaastickaastickaa2686

2 жыл бұрын

@@bougie_pink inst' that staycs' yoon?

@bougie_pink

2 жыл бұрын

@@likeastickaastickaastickaa2686 I think so? I haven’t check up on it but then again for some reason stayc seems to have a “scandals” for hating men

@luna740

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when Maisie Williams (plays Arya Stark in GOT) first turned 21, the comment section was horrible, just plain horrible. I was glad a lot of the top comments were calling out the other sexual comments and many agreed to it.

I AM SOO GLAD YOU MADE THIS VIDEO ! THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO ABOUT KPOP I HAVE COME ACROSS SINCE NO ONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THESE KIND OF PROBLEMS AND CHOOSES TOPICS WHICH MAY GET MORE VIEWS !! ❤️❤️

I have been waiting for this 😁

Very informative video. The first episode didnt dissapoint at all. I'm waiting for you to upload the next episode. I love the warning I'm Looking At You, JYPE!!😂😂😂😂😂

I was a big fanfiction eater and I never read about real people because I didn't want to put fantasies over them. One time I read a Camila x Lauren fanfic because I was really far from these two ( i wasn't a fan ) but damn my view on Camila Cabello was living through the story after that. So yeah fnfictions are fun and honestly I don't mind them going for darker or sexual things, but personally it needs to be non existing people, or people reeeeeally far from me physically and emotionally. Therefore I'm a big big Twice lover, and NEVER will I read a fanfiction about them, because I will lose the reality of my relationship with this group, which is a fun group that I enjoy seeing interact and perform together. I don't want to watch them through a twisted fantasy of mine

@mimid.227

2 жыл бұрын

Also the way these idols minor or not are portrayed as abuser is just sickening

All kpop stans need to watch this

Thank you for this video, Cheryl. This is such an important topic, which mostly isn’t understood correctly, so I’m glad you made a good video about it! Btw sorry if my English isn’t good🥲

ok .......finally youtube recomended me something sane and actually educational. im staying. the quality of this videos are so good and well made,im staying.👍💖

Thank you for educating me on this

i've literally seen people on tiktok calling ni-ki from enhypen daddy-

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

Like its so disgusting! He is is an actual kid-

@blaqgirlssss

3 жыл бұрын

Niki and I are a year apart (he's older) I couldn't imagine being called "mommy" 🤮

@shatteredbeautysumin7413

3 жыл бұрын

WHAT THE- HE'S 15 THAT IS GROSS

@ruoqifang

3 жыл бұрын

@@everglowup ikr

@ruoqifang

3 жыл бұрын

@@shatteredbeautysumin7413 ik idk why they do that and the comments were even worse

love ur videos omg

Unrelated but Indians are people of color too...anyway, love your channel! I stumbled upon it by accident and now I’m binge watching all your videos. New sub ❤️

Thank you for this video

That han clip physically made me cringe

Girl really met THE Han Jisung and that was all she had to say? I'm not even a proper stay but fr I'd do a better job FFS- The second hand embarrassment-

I just want to add that the consent age (idk if it’s called this way in english) in South Korea is 20

@iluvuforever

2 жыл бұрын

20? Wow I thought it was 18, thx for telling

I love you, you tell the truth that no one have the brave to say

The worst part is that this doesn't just happen in kpop fandoms. I'm in a fandom from a western boyband, all of the members are between 33-34 years old and like 95% of their fans are over 20, yet they still s3xualized them to the point where they start guessing who's genitals are bigger, who is "better in bed" and they can't see a normal picture of them in a tank top or shirtless without saying they want to sleep with them.

1:15 me as an asexual: I guess I'm not human🙋

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

reading this makes me realize that I am a clown...

@shangbinie1767

3 жыл бұрын

@@everglowup noo that's fine don't worry😂 it was just a joke! I know asexuality isn't a topic many people know about sadly xD

This is such a great vidéo

timestamp cuz i was thinking that i just didnt know how to put it into words thankuu for it:) 5:35

bro i've come across enha fanfictions titled "some cringy shady title" | enha _illegal_ line. im just- no words.

Everyone can learn a lot from your channel stay safe girl and God bless

you did such a great explanation here. i'm glad someone is talking about it because this is a topic fans choose to ignore.

Ok, this is an old video but I'm gonna comment anyway bc I'm a new subscriber and I was literally talking about this with someone on Discord because of the whole Chan *babygirl* debacle and the fact that he actively asks fans to send him pick-up lines and seems open to light flirting with fans. He mentioned reading some things, and people are acting in 1 of 2 ways: he's a pure innocent baby who needs to be protected from the evil horny fans, or he's just a provocative guy who gets off on this stuff. And honestly, it's probably neither. Fans need to remember these people are well, people and they obviously have their own wants and desires and it makes sense they'd enjoy this kind of attention to a certain extent and well, I'm sure Chan knows how to use the internet and you don't exactly just randomly stumble upon smut of yourself so he probably got curious and looked it up, plus him encouraging fans to send pick-up lines and reading them out loud isn't consenting to creepy shit, he said so himself that he just thinks it's a fun little exercise. There needs to be a balance in acknowledging these idols are human and have human urges and thoughts, but knowing how to keep it in check. An idol inviting you to participate in flirting doesn't mean you can be overtly sexual or rude. It's about respecting boundaries and if you're unsure where the boundary is, don't charge with your biggest tank right off the bat or don't charge at all. Specifically, in Chan's case, he really seems like the type of person who's just very open and honest and doesn't always think too much before he speaks, and fans use that to make themselves feel better about how unhinged they get. By all means, be a little flirty since he seems to roll with it, but there's a hard limit that you should be aware of before engaging. (General "you", not aimed at anyone. Also, I'm only talking about grown-up idols in this comment)

I'm so serious I monitor my younger sister's tiktok because I want her to understand what is not appropriate but still have the freedom to make her own choices. But if my sister danced to side to side I would never let them air that. It was inappropriate she didn't even look like the child she was. Also why do all females have to dance to the coming of age songs. It's like a ritual to say it's open season for them to be oversexualized

@shatteredbeautysumin7413

3 жыл бұрын

Same for what i do with my younger cousins

12:30 about your point on indians ... it's kind of ironic lmao. idk if all of it is true because it really only applies to point one. there are many ways to go about it because the indian film industry (literally every language, i'm not even kidding - be it hindi, tamil, bengali, kannada or telugua) is a breeding ground for sexualization. tw // harassment and sexualization 1. the sari, which shows off more skin than a crop top is considered okay. but women are shamed for dressing more in tune with the western culture and seen as "asking for it". there's also a lot of misogyny. in one of my tutions, the teacher made it clear that girls couldn't wear shorts or sleeveless tops. but the boys could routinely come in wearing thin jersey shorts and nobody would bat an eyelid. it's become that normalized. 2. on the other end, women wearing saris are sexualized too. by men themselves as well as media - which sometimes zooms in to focus on the female's hips while she walks in a sari. no words. 3. and if a girl, a minor, isn't dressed in either, and is in a literal school uniform, she's also sexualized. i have a personal incident of boys making obscene gestures at me when i was coming back from school, simply because my uniform was a pinafore and it unfortunately was a bit too tight on the chest for me. oh and did i mention i was once on my way to classes, wearing the most innocent thing ever - a top and a pair of leggings. a man stopped to ask me for directions. i looked around the road trying to recall and when he told me to look, i was ... flashed at. why? "because i fucking love your balls man." i was 14.

@irene4026

Жыл бұрын

As an Indian 100% agree with this. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

I have heard that Some female kpop artist get harassed by their sponsors I.e. s** I did watch a Korean talk show where they mention this kind of thing happens in kpop company including big 3. There are very few kpop company who treat their artists well.

19:09 oh hell nah… that’s why I don’t mess with that app much anymore… yikes. Oh poor Han 😮 I have had Monsta X read a comment. I told Changkyun I liked his hair and he joked “I know, it’s awful isn’t it” I don’t wanna disrespect them knowing full well they read what we put. Edit: I am in awe of Wonho and Shownu… they are strong. That takes self discipline and dedication… but again I’m not gonna be gross about it.

Only in tokopedia, blibli, and shopee. I think, they are as a guess can wear whatever they want and their skin not highlighting enough.

Hey I wanted to ask If i make a fanfiction with my original character would it be appropriate to have them experience men or women or whoever over sexualising them and telling their company to which the company doesn't help? I just want to raise awareness to the situation.

@idk-hi8ib

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i think that's fine

The VLive moment with Jisung at 19:18 was so awkward to watch, like how she could tell herself that it was a good idea to say that ??? 😬

You really have to make a video just about JYPE and it's dark sides coz bro, there's a lot

19:08 I just thought of that time when someone commented on RM’s vlive “I was f*****g but we stopped cuz you went live” His jaw was on the ground and so was mine.

Wonyoung was 13 in American age

I know this really is off topic but in India if you are showing your belly in traditional attire its all well and fine but as soon as u put on a crop top you will be sexualised.

Wonyoung was actually 13 when she was on produce which makes it worse

TV programs/award shows: Those moves/songs are too sexual! Banned! Producers: Get the groups on the stage with the most exposing clothing, but make them change the choreography. That way the general public will never know what we want, and they'll think we're being woke as fuck.

Okay, about the FANFICTIONS/FANFICTIONAL - Is the thing you can't avoid at least it's their habits to makes stories...even if you try to stop them from being writing like a smuts ff or sexualizing their idols...YOU and WE can't stop them for what they're doing...since the fanfics were also like shipping - shipping romanticly can end up ruining friendships, look at Harry and Louis, after 2013 they couldn't even interact with each other as mare friends, now look at Tae and Kook, they admitted they also grew up apart even when we thought they were close friends. you may make them not even want to look at each other, like Lizkook, those avoid each other in public as if they were getting extra for that. Some of the other fandoms also wanna try to stop people or also their fandom from being shipping2 to their idols...(You are not doing a favor to your fave celebrities by shipping them romantically together when they are bandmates, you are making them uncomfortable.) But they didn't stop shipping the idols instead they always make uncomfortable the idols because of the shipping and the fanfiction... it's just like fanfics is you were just shipping yourself with your idols at least not others idols... Just my opinion>• That's why it called fanfiction because it's imagination...if they thought that they sexualizing the idols on ff... it's NOT real though...they put warnings on it. Just imagine! Don't take it seriously!!!!

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

18:42 - 19:00 Also, this girl talking to Han SHOWED HIM HER FANFICS... nope, these fanfics are NOT helping!

@kookies3966

3 жыл бұрын

@@everglowup I know...but-What about the K-drama? Fanfictions are like K-drama.

@everglowup

3 жыл бұрын

@@kookies3966 do K-drama characters fall in love with their r@p*sts? Do they glorify sexual assault and domestic violence... yeah no, fanfics are NOT like K-drama... And if they are K-dramas doing this then they need to be blocked period... I don't have a problem with smut ff, but the ones that glorify r@pe and stuff are just NOT okay...

@mariakiwi1428

2 жыл бұрын

The whole Harry and Louis thing was horrible because it only had two possible outcomes: 1- it was true and these fans were obsessively and forcefully trying to out people who didn’t want to be making their sexuality public all for their fetishes to come true. 2- it wasn’t true and they ruined their friendship or at least the ability to actually interact with being wary of the cameras Also I just wanted to point out something that pissed me off so much back when I was a fan of one direction and these things were happening live. The whole base of the ship is cemented in gay stereotypes. Like absolutely everything. I pointed this out when the shit hit the fan and Louis had a kid whose mother was getting death threats because apparently she was THE DEVIL, you know what I got called? Homophobic. The proof was literally homophobic gay stereotypes used against lgtbt people ( especially men) for decades. I also see the exact same patterns in bts with taekook and Jimin. But it’s not as bad because there are also a big chunk of people who are more understanding to other cultural male relationships rather than the traditional western style.

@mixxthemusic

Жыл бұрын

We know but they are using literal freaking living human beings who exist in this world

Your video is so true and so we'll made. Have you realized that the " sexy idol" most of the time are the darkest member? Jennie and Lisa from blackpink are both the "darkest" member of their group and are the sexy member. Kai from exo V and Jungkook from BTS Hwa sa from mamamoo Hyunjin from skz etc... And half of the idols that I mentioned are the youngest member.

You should do a videos abt the comming of age ceremony 🤮🙄