I was drawn to Medford knives when I was younger, looking at high end knives as cool objects. But when i started buying knives to carry and use I quickly came to prefer slim and slicey.

8 minutes... still haven't seen the knife. Incredible.

Your logic is awesome! Great review.

Hey man, I know Medford gets a fair amount of hate and an equal amount of fan boy love. But the slim midi is a great line of knives by Medford, hard to deny. I’m sure you’ll end up enjoying using this knife. It’s one of my favorite daily users. Glad you always keep an open mind, curious to see how your first impressions and full review pan out. As always, thanks for the content.

Outstanding review. Clearly see the dislike for the manufacturer influencing your opinion as you briefly stated in the intro. Appreciate the honesty. I value your opinion and almost dismissed this knife because of your thoughts. I'm going slim midi - has every quality, tolerances and craftsmanship of every knife loved by the community.

Yeah. Way more your speed. Looks great.

I hope you enjoyed your time out here, in the Land of Zion. The weird and beautiful state that it is. The way you talked about the 187 is how I felt about your channel... At first. Now, I really dig what you are doing, along with your taste and integrity. Who knows, maybe Medford will grow on you. Also, I would love a review of the Hoback Sumo. I'll even send you mine. With some fry sauce!

Functionality be damned lol that opening sound was amazing!!

This is definitely a good looking knife to me. Thanks!

MY Slim Midi has a Torx Pivot, they just recently changed from the old 4 hole hardware to big torx pivots! Hope you enjoy the Midi, I love mine!

Wow, that exposed detent track and proud lockup area when closed are such bizarre design decisions. Especially for a knife that starts at $500, and goes up from there with options.

@andrewkelley6039

3 жыл бұрын

would the detent track being exposed make lubrication/oiling easier? maybe? idfk, that is weird

@ZPositive

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkelley6039 my best guess is that Medford was trying to increase the blade to handle ratio by moving the pivot forward. And doing that will always make it harder to conceal the detent features. But I'm sure there are still some tweaks left on the design room floor that could've cleaned up this area of the knife.

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

If anything you’re gonna need to add lubricant more often because it’s gonna come off when the blade is open and it’s exposed 🤣

@ZPositive

3 жыл бұрын

@@beardedgear for sure. But I've found that some knives have a light enough detent ball pressure that they don't seem to need oil. But some high pressure detents absolutely do need oil to not feel gritty. How heavy is the detent ball pressure on this knife?

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not an overly stiff detent, doesn’t seem to rely heavily on lube

Wow he sent it to you before Kyle. You better be careful Kyle's gonna get jealous 🤣🤣🤣. Great video 👍

Ooooo I’m excited

That sound 😯😍

I've spent over $3000 on Medford knives previously; a full size Praetorian, an Infraction and a Proxima. I was never blown away by the first two, they were just okay. The Proxima had major detent issues though, the blade would easily pop open without any force - happened in my pocket more than once in one afternoon. Contacted Greg. He was rude, arrogant and told me to shut up within 2 minutes of talking. So, I sold them all and moved on. Personally his knives are not so amazing that I would ever want to deal with a cranky dwarf like Greg again and have a confrontation over a legitimate issue. There are so many great makers out there nowadays, no one needs to deal with makers who aren't pleasant to deal with, especially after spending thousands of dollars on their products. Also to note. The 187 is from his budget line and I wouldn't touch one of those if someone paid me to take one. You'd be far better off with a PM2 for 1/3 the price or an XM18 for around the same price.

@Rothbardy

3 жыл бұрын

He has a bad reputation. I wouldn’t touch his brand

@TheFallenAngel187

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rothbardy yup. Live and learn, I did

@civicboi96

Жыл бұрын

This just doesn't add up. Their warranty is their bottom line... Sounds more like you were probably being annoying and Greg didn't want or need to deal with you. And regardless - putting the PM2 over the 187 is just pure dogma on your part.

I have the slim midi is S90V. I love that knife.

Everyone is certainly allowed their opinions and I'm certainly not a Medford fanboy. But speaking from someone who has worked in the construction and building industry for the better part of my life I see the 187 as a purpose built knife make to be virtually indestructible and more likely even meant to be used wearing gloves which would completely eliminate any reason to get picky over the handle shape or even possible sharp edges. It's also not meant to be an EDC knife for your everyday person especially not a person who is looking for pocket jewelry or a fidget toy with the smoothest deployment ever. Also Medfords are built to rediculous standards when it comes to the tight action . That always gets better with time and with time it absolutely can be easily flicked open with one hand without trouble. The issue I feel with certain issues people have is they are coming at it from an EDC perspective instead of a purpose built hard use tool that can stand up to the elements without needing to be serviced regularly like a bearing knife would be. And yes a hydraulic action and feel is absolutely what should be expected on all washer medford models. Those who have reviewed this knife looking at it for what it was designed to be a hard use tool ,not an easy to carry silky smooth toy that only gets used to cut cardboard and open new knife packages have all truly liked the 187 and I myself agree . Which ofcoarse is just my opinion as we are all welcome to have. Now as for hating a company because you disliked one of there knives and because of people hurting your feelings defending it. Well that is shitty that you would allow others to help support a biased approach when reviewing new knives and the exact opposite of what anyone who is looking for honest opinions should be looking for in a reviewer. My humble opinion.

I really like Medford Knives, just cannot justify the expense.

I was also interested in one of the but I didn't pull the trigger. Not a huge fan of the design and your thoughts strengthen that too

One good thing about the Deaton truck being exposed if the Deaton gets a little stiff you just have a little oil on there. It’s really handy

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

I rarely have a problem adding lube to my detent track, you just put it on the detent ball lol

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

If anything it’s gonna get dirty more often for being exposed 😂

One of the very few knife brands that just never ever seemed interesting to me.

@NK-wy8wp

3 жыл бұрын

Me neither

@MF_UNDERTOW

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

@VideoSupreme

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto!

@dimi7055

3 жыл бұрын

@AmericanPride Trust me its not too bad for me ;]. I am pretty sure i aint missing out AT ALL.

@MF_UNDERTOW

3 жыл бұрын

@AmericanPride I’d prefer my knives be good at cutting things and most of Medford’s blades are overly thick with girthy bte thicknesses. There are a few slim designs but they’re fugly and his prices are silly for what he’s offering. Score for the folks that like them, less competition to get them. DLT always has tons of MKT’s in stock.

Kev is the 🐐

That Tanto is a beaut assuming Lefty can't stand the detent so maybe she will be yours!

Man it’s shocking that you didn’t like the 187 DP. The one in S90v was my favorite knife for a long time.

the exposed blade when it is closed seems like a lazy design decision to me.

Thanks for keeping it real . There’s definitely a few Medford knives I think are pretty horrible. 187 is definitely one of those knives . I only like pretorian line up . Marauder line up . And there old The General model. And a few of the fixed blades .

Medfords are big and bad ass.

I have a Smooth Criminal, also marked S. I believe it stands for s35vn

@NathanKrick

3 жыл бұрын

S is definitely CPM S35VN. CPM S90V is "9" and is a DLT Trading exclusive. "D" is CPM D2 and CPM 3V is either a "3" or "V" (I am not sure as they are not as common to see reviewed)

@JesseLJohnson

2 жыл бұрын

@@NathanKrick The 3v are marked with a 3. At least the ones I have do including this MEFP tanto I just got in the mail a couple days ago. Nice they have a torx pivot now too. Not sure when that changed my other Slim Midi and all my other older Medfords have the proprietary pivot. DLT has a bunch of s90v Slim Midi right now well most versions are sold out but they still have a bunch. I almost bought one but they dropped about the same time my Monkey Edge came in the mail so didn't really need to buy 2 Slim Midi in one week when I already had some from before lol. At least I can justify the one I just got because its a PVD Tanto and the only PVD or tanto I have from Medford and its a cool frag pattern and goes with my Hinderers and Shiro I got from Monkey Edge just need a damn MEFP SnG to go with them or SmF whatever just want one and I want one of the CRK Zaan MEFP too just the MEFP stuff is damn near impossible to get I just got lucky and got the Slim Midi and Eklipse warncliffe within a few days of each other got lucky both times. Everybody always wants damn near 2x retail on them 2nd hand.

If a knife does not cut, it is not a knife. It may be a pointed pry bar, but not a knife.

I have been crushing on this one lately but the exposed lock face and detent may have just killed it for me

You look like its so painful to say nice things about that knife LOL you look so excited to be reviewing another Medford. Ha ha.

I want to like Medford’s, but this is just about the only design they have that speaks to me.

I really like the Slim Midi. I have a couple. The new ones now have an torx for the pivot. I know all the ones I have seen lately including the Monkey Edge MEFP one I just had come the other day and the new s90v DLT ones. That S stands for s35vn with Medford and 9 for s90v, 3 for 3v, D for D2. I really like the Pretorian Slim too those are probably my 2 favorites from Medford. I have some others I don't really like but I got them for prices so cheap I couldn't say no the On Belay and Proxima I got both of those plus my first Slim Midi for $750 total for all 3 and all were new in box from a friend of mine's son. He knew I was into knives and his son had a half dozen or so Medfords he had tried to sell me forever and always wanted retail prices so no way then he was in need of cash a couple years ago so I got them $250 each. I paid about as much for the Slim Midi I just got as I paid for all 3 of those others. I love my Vehement Mongrel too which was made by Medford only thing is its way to thick behind the edge. I have heard a v2 was coming hope its ground thinner only way I would consider spending $525 on a 2nd one is if they grind that thing thin no need for it to be a damn axe.

The slim midi is the only medford I think I would ever maybe like... Everything else is a chunky clunky monstrosity.

@tristandauod

3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment the same thing haha. I've thought about buying this one because of the profile, more reasonable size and compound tanto grind. Ended up going with a tanto umnumzaan, instead. No regrets, so far lol

@kasslatter1

3 жыл бұрын

Dude! Same

@MrRasnowman

3 жыл бұрын

I like the slim midi and the micro praetorian

I’m not a Medford fan-boy but the slim-midi is my daily carry. I just love the knife.

where in Northern Utah? I am from Logan which is about as north as you can go without being in Idaho.

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

I was right outside of Logan in Hyrum for the last night, that’s where I drove home from 🤘🏻

@chase6232

3 жыл бұрын

@@beardedgear Very cool! I grew up just about 5 minutes from Hyrum in Mt. Sterling. You picked a great part of Utah to visit!

Out of my price range, but the Slim Midi is the only one I like.

Why are knife guys so fascinated with the middle finger flick? I never understood this... Is it just that there is nothing new in the knife world, so people have to make up new ways to open it, to look cool? I guess?

@NK-wy8wp

3 жыл бұрын

It’s fun to do. No one trying to be cool, it’s a fun fidget factor

@Rothbardy

3 жыл бұрын

It’s just fun. I don’t look for it in a knife though

@SquireSCA

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rothbardy For some reason, it reminds me of the kids that spend hours per day twirling butterfly knives around...

They definitely make some pretty hideous looking designs but to each their own. I wouldn’t knock on the “overbuilt useless” ones, you won’t give someone a spoon when they’re wanting a shovel. Jake If you like that one you should check out the slim praetorian, far better looks and feel in my opinion.

S35vn steel

Is that running bearings or washers?

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

I’m 99% sure it’s on washers

@kreed4

3 жыл бұрын

@@beardedgear id guess the same, though Jared (Neeve’s Knives) has a Slim with bearings. Medford is learning new tricks.

The good ole Medford slogan. Medford: Overbuilt to the point of uselessness.

@strikeIII

3 жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the video, what was overbuilt about it?

@JohnClausen

3 жыл бұрын

@@strikeIII well this is just about their smallest knife, and it’s the size of California, so I think my statement remains valid

@craige1965

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnClausen maybe you should learn about Medford instead of talking 💩. They are great knives, yes there are big but that’s not a bad thing. I EDC a midi and I also use it as a duty knife.

@craige1965

3 жыл бұрын

S= S35VN

@strikeIII

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnClausen well ur still wrong cuz it's not their smallest knife.

The Medford fan boys are not as aggressive as the strider fan boys. Omg they want to destroy you if you say you don’t like something about striders lol

S35vn

Meh.

I thought youtubers cancel cultured medford?

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I don’t pay attention to cancel culture lol

I haven't handled a Medford. I love Greg's outspokenness in this time of PC, woke, cancel culture. He served in the USMC to preserve freedom of speech. Now if I could only get my hands on one of his knives, I could develop an opinion on them.

@mikegreen2214

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, he’s a giant stupid baby who goes on drunken racist rants, deletes them, and then lies about it.

We get it. You don't like chunky folders. You can just say that without having to balk and roll your eyes at the 187 at every opportunity. Just like you really want to like Medfords, I really want to like your videos but you get so stuffy over what you think is ideal.

Medford isn’t worth your time not a fan of any aspect of the company

Jake are you a liberal? I know Kyle and Kev most certainly are not. Your tone and facial expression seems not too positive on Greg. Who is an outspoken conservative

@cavecanem2826

3 жыл бұрын

Which is fine, I’m a libertarian and in some ways quite liberal. Just curious.

@beardedgear

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not a liberal, I do think Greg comes across less than likeable though, politics aside.

@cavecanem2826

3 жыл бұрын

@@beardedgear he’s kinda fired up. Met him once at blade show once. Opposite of Bill Koenig let’s just say. Bill is wonderful, humble and kind. And in my opinion makes the best folding knife there is.