Meaning of Lagrange multiplier

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In the previous videos on Lagrange multipliers, the Lagrange multiplier itself has just been some proportionality constant that we didn't care about. Here, you can see what its real meaning is.

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  • @8bit_pineapple
    @8bit_pineapple6 жыл бұрын

    lol, I went to 3Blue1Brown to see if Grant had any videos explaining what the langrange multipliar and lagrangians are.... seeing not I head over to Khan Academy... and Grant is teaching the lesson

  • @Jurgan6

    @Jurgan6

    3 жыл бұрын

    Two years later, I did the exact same thing.

  • @brandontay2053

    @brandontay2053

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jurgan6 2 months later, here I am, having done the same thing :')

  • @morancium

    @morancium

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandontay2053 2 weeks later, mee too!!

  • @YashPatel-vt8or

    @YashPatel-vt8or

    3 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @morancium

    @morancium

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@YashPatel-vt8or which college bro 😂

  • @sjwang3892
    @sjwang38923 жыл бұрын

    Went from Constrained Optimization Introduction to this video. Absolutely love the clear explanation w/ the graphs! No idea why other materials have to make it so hard to understand.

  • @technosapien330

    @technosapien330

    5 ай бұрын

    My theory is they either don't actually understand the topic, or they are gate-keeping

  • @dirkjensen935
    @dirkjensen9352 жыл бұрын

    Needed to pick up some basic know how about lagrangian in order to work through a proof regarding partition functions. And I was worried it was going to take me forever considering other texts I have aren't particularly clear and I didn't take lagrangian in undergrad. But oh my, this series is short, snappy, to the point and intuitive. Your tutorials are timeless and a gift to humanity. Thank you.

  • @mehdij9494
    @mehdij94946 жыл бұрын

    I knew Lagrange Optimization since long time. But NOW I can claim understand it perfectly! Thank you so much!

  • @masterchief8646
    @masterchief86463 жыл бұрын

    good Lord this video brought so much understanding to the LaGrange multiplier it´s insane. God bless you Sir

  • @DefinitelyNotNhanTho
    @DefinitelyNotNhanTho6 жыл бұрын

    9:50 I believe what you meant was “let’s pause and ponder...” right ? Yeah, you can’t fool us, we know it was you lecturing, 3Blue1Brown.

  • @phil97n
    @phil97n8 ай бұрын

    Many thanks! I learned about lagrange multipliers as of yesterday, but it's been rather difficult to understand just exactly what it is even thought the math makes sense - your video clarified for me. Thanks again

  • @leeris19
    @leeris1913 күн бұрын

    Last time I checked I am studying how to minimize Optimum Margin Classifier for Support Vectors, now I am here, I don't know how, but I love it.

  • @SuperIdiotMan00
    @SuperIdiotMan006 жыл бұрын

    "Hours of Labor and Tons of Steel". That sounds like a rejected thrash metal album.

  • @christianaustin782

    @christianaustin782

    6 жыл бұрын

    SuperIdiotMan00 that honestly made me laugh out loud

  • @alekseivoronov3763

    @alekseivoronov3763

    5 жыл бұрын

    man, thats what i call a joke

  • @Ferdinaand

    @Ferdinaand

    5 жыл бұрын

    lmaooo

  • @michaeljpchen6469
    @michaeljpchen64696 жыл бұрын

    Really helpful to help me get a thorough understanding

  • @rikenm
    @rikenm7 жыл бұрын

    It's a good refresher. Thanks. I would like to request you for advance math courses. You are very good at teaching. I watched your linear algebra playlist and also subscribed to your youtube (3Blue1Brown). It's awesome: How about abstract algebra, or even number theory. Thanks

  • @justinward3679

    @justinward3679

    7 жыл бұрын

    Riken Maharjan I second this!

  • @zes7215

    @zes7215

    5 жыл бұрын

    no such thing as gx or not

  • @kawhiknot1016
    @kawhiknot10165 жыл бұрын

    In what playlist does constraint programming topics it belongs?

  • @tunim4354
    @tunim43547 жыл бұрын

    This is important in economics. One of the major concepts in Real business cycle.‎

  • @jairjuliocc

    @jairjuliocc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know im a little late but, Can you explain more?

  • @tunim4354

    @tunim4354

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jairjuliocc I was talking about the famous Real Business Cycle model in macroeconomics. When you are working with factors of production like labor and capital and you need Utility maximisation in a single period RBC model. The first order condition equations for capital and labor need a lagrange multiplier. If you are not a student of finance and economics, these will go over your head. And if you have studied macroeco, then these will be the most basic thing you learn.

  • @Leo-tf3rw

    @Leo-tf3rw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tunim4354 wow you replied after 4 years

  • @hbbh

    @hbbh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Leo-tf3rw AHAHHAHAH he did

  • @hbbh

    @hbbh

    3 жыл бұрын

    That person probably already finished college

  • @alexanderherbertkurz
    @alexanderherbertkurz6 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot, great video ... I watched a few videos on Lagrange multipliers and this is the best so far ... it would be great if there were links to the previous and next video in the series

  • @whetstoneguy6717

    @whetstoneguy6717

    3 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree.

  • @dionsilverman4195
    @dionsilverman41954 жыл бұрын

    How do we know that when the gradients are parallel, it's an extremum of the constraint g(x,y), rather than an inflection point? For example, extremising the paraboloid f(x,y) = x² +y² subject to y = 2x³ + 1. The gradients are parallel at (0,1), but this does not extremise the function f subject to the constraint g(x,y). Also, can I request a video on Lagrange multipliers with multiple constraints? This is much harder to find. I'm particularly interested in its use in deriving the Boltzmann distribution as maximising the number of micro states subject to constant molecule number and total energy. Also, a video on how this relates to Lagrangian or Hamiltonian mechanics would be fantastic and a common application I think.

  • @umountable
    @umountable4 жыл бұрын

    how to find "the previous video" there is no playlist linked to the video

  • @ThePiMan0903
    @ThePiMan0903 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Khan Academy!

  • @pritomroy2465
    @pritomroy24654 жыл бұрын

    9:31 I thought most of the things in math comes from nowhere until I got your videos.

  • @supreme84x
    @supreme84x5 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the contour of B be pointed down,, from the concavity? Or is the multiplier acting as a "negative" scalar, flipping it around?

  • @abdullahalmosalami2373
    @abdullahalmosalami23733 жыл бұрын

    Woah what! I was not expecting that lambda had some meaning! Oh why didn't my Calc 3 classes show me this. I don't even believe this was in my Calc 3 textbook, or maybe perhaps it was burried in some of the problems at the end of the Lagrange Multiplier section.

  • @franks.6547
    @franks.65476 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't we suspect, just from looking at the parallel gradients of R and B, that for every small increase of B you get λ times an increase of R? I mean something like λ = |grad R|/|grad B| = dR/dB on a curve perpendicular to the two tangent contour lines -same as Anton Geraschenko says below, but more visually intuitive, I think. (I admit that you still have to believe that any variation of h and s should be along that perpendicular curve, but that is how you keep R and B contours tangent to each other)

  • @xiaoweidu4667
    @xiaoweidu46674 жыл бұрын

    this is fantastic point !

  • @liabraga4641
    @liabraga46416 жыл бұрын

    So elucidating

  • @CalleTful
    @CalleTful2 жыл бұрын

    Which playlist is this in?

  • @abhishek_sengupta
    @abhishek_sengupta3 жыл бұрын

    wow...Thanx a lot!!

  • @animeshpuzari8235
    @animeshpuzari82355 жыл бұрын

    thanks😁🏅

  • @Rockyzach88
    @Rockyzach88 Жыл бұрын

    So is the lagrange multiplier also considered an eigenvalue?

  • @usamsersultanov689
    @usamsersultanov6897 жыл бұрын

    Finally I got it

  • @arslanhojiyev5996
    @arslanhojiyev59963 жыл бұрын

    If does not ask for the maximum ( or minimum), how can you know it is indeed the maximum (or minimum) value???

  • @indranilroy691
    @indranilroy6914 жыл бұрын

    At 4:30, why we are taking gradient of L(Lagrangian function) = 0? Can anyone please put some light on this. Thanks!

  • @dsanjoy

    @dsanjoy

    4 жыл бұрын

    In a previous video it has been explained. You have to calculate the tangent of the two function and they have to be proportional to each other. The propionality constant is lambda.

  • @miguelangelhernandezortiz7303
    @miguelangelhernandezortiz73032 жыл бұрын

    Anybody knows a book of Multivariable Calculus' history? Please help me.

  • @RajatGoel1
    @RajatGoel15 жыл бұрын

    6:47 REALLY!!!

  • @ruSEXtreme
    @ruSEXtreme6 жыл бұрын

    why should the 2 gradients have to be proportional, as opposed to being equal to each other? if they're not equal at the point of contact, then theyre not tangent to each other..?

  • @BillPickle

    @BillPickle

    5 жыл бұрын

    so long as the direction is the same, the gradient vectors will be parallel scalar multiples (lambda). The magnitudes of the vectors do not matter, and if reduced to unit vectors, would be identical.

  • @Postermaestro
    @Postermaestro6 жыл бұрын

    Commenting to spread on the tubes!

  • @johncharles3907
    @johncharles39074 жыл бұрын

    I think I need some more animations to understand this.

  • @dagia3209
    @dagia32095 жыл бұрын

    I like it

  • @atriagotler
    @atriagotler2 жыл бұрын

    I love you grant.

  • @Skandalos
    @Skandalos Жыл бұрын

    The voice sounds familiar. Is this the guy from the 3blue1brown channel? Anyway, this is very well explained.

  • @sam4395
    @sam43957 жыл бұрын

    oh

  • @Majestic469
    @Majestic4694 жыл бұрын

    Why can’t you just solve for h or s in one function and substitute that expression in the other function? Then you can just set the derivative to 0 to find the optimization.

  • @MayankGoel447

    @MayankGoel447

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's not always possible. If say, your constraint function was not factorizable e.g. xsin(y) + yx^2=1. In this case, you can't express x in terms of y or the other way around and substitute that in f(x)

  • @mv3845
    @mv384511 ай бұрын

  • @buh357
    @buh3573 жыл бұрын

    F**k, This is GOLD.

  • @elgodyr2683
    @elgodyr26832 жыл бұрын

    guys can the lamda be equal to 0 ?

  • @goclbert

    @goclbert

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but wouldn't that just mean our constraint has no impact on our ability to optimize R?

  • @anas.2k866
    @anas.2k8663 жыл бұрын

    I don't see why the two fradient are propotinal

  • @hectorbetancourt2854

    @hectorbetancourt2854

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because you made them so through the Lagrange multiplier. There are multiple grads of the contour of the function that don't have a proportional grad with the constraint, but by assuming that they are (and that they relate to each other through the Lagrande multiplier), you can solve the system of equations and get all the points at which your previous assumption, that the two gradients are proportional, is true.

  • @jullevv
    @jullevv7 жыл бұрын

    first like

  • @uvenga
    @uvenga2 жыл бұрын

    The one who can not learn is because he doesn't want 💯

  • @theacademyofgermanidealism6210
    @theacademyofgermanidealism62104 жыл бұрын

    3blue one brown guy

  • @alaypal7484
    @alaypal74846 жыл бұрын

    Omg

  • @tag_of_frank
    @tag_of_frank3 жыл бұрын

    Argh why no inequality constraints

  • @Jmtri7
    @Jmtri73 жыл бұрын

    While you maximize your revenue, I'll be maximizing my profit... ;)

  • @tadasvaitkevicius5799
    @tadasvaitkevicius57994 жыл бұрын

    i dont like that he speaks so fast

  • @shellycollorone3703
    @shellycollorone37037 жыл бұрын

    why sending math i'm not needing ?

  • @zayedalsuwaidi7697

    @zayedalsuwaidi7697

    7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe just don't click videos you do not need to see?

  • @shellycollorone3703

    @shellycollorone3703

    7 жыл бұрын

    iii 3xki they sending a different kind of math i don't need.

  • @zayedalsuwaidi7697

    @zayedalsuwaidi7697

    7 жыл бұрын

    Shaelyne Collorone Okay, I understand this. But why don't you just go on the website www.khanacademy.com and look for what you need instead of clicking on videos you don't want to see?

  • @edjrage7745

    @edjrage7745

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shellycollorone3703 who is they

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