The F1 looks almost tiny next to those new Mclarens, and yet it seats 3 passengers and a 100 L more luggage.

@guguigugu

4 жыл бұрын

its all the safety equipment and crumple zones. wont help you at 200 mph but ok.

@satellite964

3 жыл бұрын

@@guguigugu So you're saying the new GMA T.50 doesn't have those? Let's admit it, McLaren made a stupid design by committee car with the MP4-12C that can't hold a candle to the F1, same with all their other road cars.

0:37 the f1 is the best looking car i've ever seen

Price or value aside, I'd take the F1 (GTR or LM) any day over anything else in the world. God they're amazing!!!

@shoobidyboop8634

28 күн бұрын

They're ok.

for 20 years old car... mcLaren still awesome.

F1 be like : ''Cmon my grand son (mp4-12c) give grandpa ur hand so i can take you over the street '' So epic!!

i think the mclaren f1 is better than the Bugatti, even tho its like the new king just because you can allways make a faster car, but like the era when mclaren f1 was the best were better

@FatCat693

10 жыл бұрын

I love The Hennessey Venom GT

@auchucknorris

10 жыл бұрын

Isaiah Gonzales ye ppl dont give that car enuf cred, cos its based on a lotus body, rather than its own body but its so much cooler looking than a lotus

@Soulvex

10 жыл бұрын

Bugatti EB110 is the best Bugatti ever.

@billysastard117

9 жыл бұрын

Soulware3D agreed

@spokes5201

9 жыл бұрын

I wish it was still the fastest car with 3 pedals on the floor (that's important), but easily held in a higher regard than most modern supercars 20 years after the XP1 first started demolishing records.

i choose mclaren f1...

Is it just me or what, How do you take 2 fantastic cars and do such a boring presentation , good Gosh ..........

@smasherdobson4884

4 жыл бұрын

probably be the weather and the f1 been worth about 10 mil

the mclaren f1 is the tip top of my dream car list. i have dream cars for every possible life direction i could take, and if I'm a successful person, then the f1 will be the car i'd die in. but today, i "own" a 997, sitting at a bmw dealer...

Does it ever not rain there?

@pyroxxx

9 жыл бұрын

It has the same climate as Holland and Belgium

@scotlander32

9 жыл бұрын

I moved away 11 years ago, went back last week and it was still f#cking raining!

@NORML85

8 жыл бұрын

LOL

They are driving on the topgear test track

@chloe-jt3ni

10 жыл бұрын

OK.

@Harsa21

10 жыл бұрын

What they are

@Harsa21

10 жыл бұрын

I like cars so that's another reason

@tomelliott9

10 жыл бұрын

Harold McDavid Another reason for what?

@Harsa21

10 жыл бұрын

Nothing its fine

That's the F1 LM -_-.

@Freimopp777

9 жыл бұрын

its a GTR paint in orange papaya

@MrRaphaelLippi

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it looks like it.

I really really want top gear to race Mclaren f1 with stig.

@LarsAgerbk

10 жыл бұрын

imagine a top gear episode where all they do is make lap times with old supercars, Jaguar xj220/s, Porche 959, Ferrari F40/50/Enzo, Bugatti eb110, Lamboghini Diablo/Countach/Miura....... etc. etc.

@Obi-WanKannabis

10 жыл бұрын

Lars Agerbæk Just an FYI. If anyone is curious about how fast a Ford GT40 around the track, it's around 1:24. Amazing for a car made 50 years ago!

@LarsAgerbk

10 жыл бұрын

is that the original or the 2004 GT?

@Obi-WanKannabis

10 жыл бұрын

Lars Agerbæk original. The 2004 one is officially published

@LarsAgerbk

10 жыл бұрын

01:25.4 according to wikipedia. It's not on the official list though.

F1 is impossible to beat but the MP4-12C is a good 'new' start. Really looking forward to see what Mclaren's next move is.

He's just showing how the F1's design is immortal, it is so beautiful even today because it's not set to any time period, it doesn't look to 90's and could even look modern today.

Actually that Mclaren was the GRR limited edition built after we won Le Mans in 1995. We made 5 off commemorative editions an sold them for about £780k instead of the £540k of the standard car. The real LM car had a roll cage, restrictors on the engine and even lead in the passenger's footwell as it was underweight. I thinlk we got it down to 900kg. That orange car wasnt built to the same standard as the race car as we beefed up certain bits to improve reliability.

I believe the standard F1 would beat the new car by the same margin or more on a dry track with a pro driver. Even the standard F1 requires much more skill than the new car to drive quickly. The new car would not even be close to the F1 LM on a dry track. The new car is super or hyper, but the old one is a brutal monster.

why didnt you compare the MP4-12C to the base F1?

@Retheraq

10 жыл бұрын

FSMNoodlyAppendage an F1 GTR is much rarer than a standard F1

@Soulvex

10 жыл бұрын

Retheraq I think the stock one is quicker though, probably doesnt handle as well.

@Retheraq

8 жыл бұрын

You could never make a GTR have a higher top speed than a stock F1.... Ever heard of aerodynamics?

@ShadowlordDio

6 жыл бұрын

i want to see against the McLaren f1 stock McLaren F1 GTR LeMans McLaren Gtr LeMans Long Tail

The old one is a masterpiece, one of the kind

Got the pleasure to see one in person tonight in Edmonton for the Indy!

I love the McLaren F1 it is awesome

I Fuckin hate when super cars are compared in wet conditions. You can't really open them up fully. Waste of what could've been a great video.

@gabrielaaron

7 жыл бұрын

They always seem to do that on British shows, baffles the hell out of me, maybe they have no choice due to time constraints with the cars?

@XZagatoX

7 жыл бұрын

It's the awful Pommie weather; the main reason they flee like cockroaches to other countries

road wet and the environment looks really cool especially where the 2 cars pass the camera @ 1:36 nice

You could release that f1 today and people would still buy it. What a beautiful machine

MP4-12C is for girls. F1 will always be the king.

@Smearrrrrrgle

9 жыл бұрын

12 is beautiful but yes I cannot argue the f1 is the boss.

@lazarcoco7767

9 жыл бұрын

mp4 for girls ?? This car is one of the best cars i say i think you are a 12 years old and you never drive one of this cars!

@ericgeorge5483

9 жыл бұрын

Bharath Kumar The old F1 is only better in a straight line....

@Draylogic

8 жыл бұрын

+Bharath Kuma The 12C is designed for a completely different market

@ShadowHawX932

8 жыл бұрын

+Bharath Kumar Affordability.

no wet weather runs please

@gta11121

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure.. " C'mon lets control the weather!"..

@frankenscience3553

10 жыл бұрын

no, they need to do the leg work so we get a quality dry weather review

We were in Italy in April. Went to the Ferrari museum in Maranello. They had 2 F40's there. One was a works race version which had around 750hp. We were also in Bologna when the Lamborghini Grand tour passed through. 350 amazing cars. These cars are rare in NZ. Although one of our Pizza franchises uses a Diablo as a delivery vehicle.

@mechak I didn't say F1 GTR, I just said the F1 which is also a road car.

Thought they were going to compare it to the regular F1. OBVIOUSLY the GTR destroys the 12C. I would compare the F1 GTR to the regular P1 see how they compare

@louisgreenleaf235

7 жыл бұрын

That's an LM F1 not a GTR

@oranjoos

7 жыл бұрын

it actually is more likely a 95 or 96 F1 GTR converted to road spec and painted orange like the LMs. I think there are only 2 LMs out of 5 in public, the other 3 are owned by the sultan of brunei.

@louisgreenleaf235

7 жыл бұрын

If they removed the limiters then it pretty much is a lm

@theacehd1742

6 жыл бұрын

A K that's the point though because obviously p1 gtr faster than F1 gtr so the comparison of F1 gtr vs p1 would be interesting

@ragnarok7452

Жыл бұрын

@@theacehd1742 P1 GTR is slower than a 2015 GT3 car around Red Bull Ring, which is around the same pace or slightly slower than 96 F1 GTR ran per lap in qualifying trim. Long tail is much faster than both. P1 GTR isn't as much track focused as a real race car. Though if you are talking about a drag race, maybe P1 GTR would win.

I would like to have seen the *non-racing* (production) McLaren F1 versus the MP4-12C...how do they compare? I would think the new car would be somewhat faster.

@SafffOneee

10 жыл бұрын

Doubt it! The production F1 is still nearly half a ton lighter and has fan-assisted aero. McLaren themselves said the MP4 was not a successor to the F1 (we now know that's the P1) and is their "entry-level" Macca

@mcsquare77

10 жыл бұрын

Well Said!

@tomelliott9

10 жыл бұрын

The road car would be considerably slower than the track car round the track, and the track car ONLY JUST beat the MP4, so the road car would probably loose the MP4

@ragnarok7452

Жыл бұрын

Normal F1 would likely lose.

@muistje3 the mp4-12c was developed on the topgear test track :D

Among advanced countries, there is a lot of rain in Britain. It's actually a good place to test drive new cars because many countries in the world have rainy weather all year long.

gtr is most beautful car in history!!!!

@911madza

4 жыл бұрын

LM

Pure bullshit.the old one is so much faster..

Another trivia info. Senna's MP4/4 was powered by Honda, which designed the NSX. The NSX suspension and chassis was tuned by Ayrton Senna. Gordon Murray(sp) the designeer of the McLaren F1 stated that after driving the little Honda NSX that all other benchmark cars like Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini were out. He used the NSX as its benchmark(of course with a lot more power) Interesting circle.

How do you gather that? This is an Autocar video which happened to use Dunsfold Aerodrome (aka Top Gear Test Track) which is used by other companies and I guess hired out by Autocar for this feature.

@imimvi the mp4-12c is mainly developed at the top gear track

CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE P1 VS F1 VIDEO!!

@89ford150302 Actually, MCLAREN uses the "top gear test track". The whole development process of the MP4-12C was made around that track. So pretty much every tv program that had acess to the MP4 so far was recorded on that track.

i love how NFS2 is mentioned. that game was the soul reason i fell in love with the F1

10 years later and still everyone is talking about the F1 and everyone is still NOT talking about the MP4-12C (and it’s ridiculous name).

The Mp4-12c did extremely well against the full racespec F1 GTR, I'm very impressed.

@Juul096 clarkson did say the mp4 was developed at the top gear test track when the car was on the show.

In 2020, McLaren F1 still looks beautiful

I saw an MP4 C parked near me recently and it is a very nice car indeed, but if money was no object you would just have to own the legendary F1, twenty years old and still as good as anything that exists today

I believe it is the Top Gear test track considering that is where the mp4-12c was developed.

I like how you make an ad about how annoying ads are

the cars become more aerodynamic reducing wind pushing back on them, thus making it run faster

Mclaren GTR has been my favourite car since the first time I saw it on Le mans when I was 6, and it still is, there's just nothing that's been close to take over its place

damn, I saw the F1 for the first time when I was just 10 years old and to this day it still blows my mind. The MP4 looks pretty promising though. Wish I could have me one of those!

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't the F1 GTR geared for a top speed of 180-something? For tracks rather than top speed?

@Rick258442 Yeah it is true that it is very hard indeed to judge cars and their performance in the dry by looking at how they perform in wet conditions.

So which one should I buy?

Why/How are they filming at Dunsford?

@Koozis that's what's available for them since the regular McLaren F1 is also a rare car

That the ground effects it uses don't already give?

@kinine274 the mp4-12c is developed there

no, it's also called a wing, you'll actually find in the racing world the word spoiler is rarely used. I never heard someone call a wing on a F1 car a spoiler for example.

yea they are, this is actually developed there. the TG test track was made by Lotus

You are halfway right. Yes, the Ultimate Aero was designed for one main purpose: top speed. Jerod Shelby himself said he is not a designer, but an engineer. Style wasn't his forte. That is why he hired Jason Castriota for the successor, the Tuatara. The Ultimate Aero's purpose was to establish SSC, get the record to show what they can do. It served its purpose and set SSC up for the future. Don't forget the UA also set the slalom record. The car is an all around amazing performer.

What an amazing piece of machinery

i have a question. Considering that the Mclaren F1 had 3 seats ( one in the "middle front" and 2 in the "rear") is the insurance "lower"? I know that probably it doesn't matter cause is a Mclaren :P but i got me wondering if other companies could use this configuration, after all is better having 3 functional seats instead of 2.

@Betaops252 So true. Anyone could drive an MP4-12C quickly. But I reckon it would take a very special talent with balls of steel to tame a Mclaren F1.

ughhh that matte orange is to die for

lol, "rather nice old one that we're going to compare it with" such an understatement.. hahah

@jdnic1 i beleive they have an 'LM' version of the 12c.. could be wrong, think i saw it in a mag....

Next week on autocar, a bugatti veyron ss vs a mobility scooter, which one will be quicker?

i already heard the warm-up of a F1 GTR *-* you're right :D

the wing on the fd2r is actually functional

is the mp4-12c available in america

Oh man... that F1 is a beauty !!

The fact that both of these cars are in NFS Most Wanted 2012

@laragibson2703

8 жыл бұрын

+Luna No they aren't? Only the MP4-12C is in NFS MW 2012

@sloweddown1019

8 жыл бұрын

the F1 is in the ultimate speed pack DLC.

i love the mclaren f1 with a passion. it's the most beautiful car ever built period .

@paklurah1 can u put 3 turbos?

@mofunzonecom the MP4 was tested and developed on the Top Gear track

Did he lift off on the "follow-through"? x)

the thing i love about the f1 is the drivers seat on the middle. they are both SOOOO damn awesome! i cant wait to finish looking at the video! i believe the F1 will win. lets see

@esc634 the mp4 was developed there

@MrGamerDerek i knew it was developed there, i didn't know they shared the track with other shows or reviewers.

mclaren tested the mp4-12c there, so this was probably a mclaren press event

AHA! I didn't see that before thanks for clearing that up

It looks so 1990s to be as it was a british Icon from that era like oasis or blur. Take that were more like the MG's of the 90s not every persons cup of tea. F1 is like the E-type it will look amazing for ever.

@rfcon11 mp4-12c was developed on that track, season 8 i think

Is this at the top gear test track?

@Sprebound It's only at the TopGear track because the car was being developed and tested there, nothing to do with the show.

It is nice talking to someone who respects all makes of vehicles. I do know a little bit about the Britten, but not a tone. I know it was super fast and revolutionary, but not all the details.

dude NFS2 was a beast game :D

perhaps u should watch the vid again because im pretty sure there is only one seat, also mentioned in top gear reviews. for the MP4-12C i dont know :p

@singlevietboi Yeah, if you watched the Top Gear review, Clarkson mentioned the McLaren was develop on the Top Gear test track

both are beautiful cars

@kayu38 The silver one is the new one. and the orange one is the old one, and the orange also weighs less.

they never necessarily had to make a road going version of the '95 and '96 GTR's because the regular road car didnt need to fufil any homoligation rules. it wasnt until the '97 year of the GTR's aka the "Longtail" that Mclaren had to make a Homologation special, thus the roadgoing GT "longtail"

looking at the f1, and the p1, it's a question of , why and where did they go wrong?

@oz7434

7 жыл бұрын

Bo Huggabee the thing is: The F1 was a car that completely relying on the driver like the Ferrari F40. Which made it much lighter and quicker at corners(RWD has a huge effect on corners. MP4 is AWD) And the important thing is power:weight ratio and weight distribution. The F1 has the driver seat in the middle to distribute the weight equally to both sides of the car which affects cornering. In the end: RWD, Light construction and high power, good aerodynamics and weight distribution are the specifications that made the F1 faster.

are you on the top gear test track?

Is that the TG test track?

That looks like the Top Gear Test Track. Yeap, the MP4-12C is home!!

@autocar, how would u COMPARE Mclaren F1 with Lamborghini Aventador?

@JulianoRamirez Funny thing is I literally debated in my head whether or not I would do that. I am still left undecided.

Has anyone else noticed that they are driving on the Top Gear test track

That's a hell of machine's!