I completely agree with your take that comparing Michkov and Reinbacher is an apples to oranges situation and it's kind of silly, but then to go on to poo poo Michkov and list off reasons why he might not succeed seems a bit petty. "I hope he struggles", cmon man

“I hope he struggles, to be honest with you” Okay, so you’re just straight up biased against some 19 year old kid for petty social media reasons? Having an awesome young goal scorer would be amazing for the league. Maybe put your own ego to the side for a bit.

@mikefisher4984

3 күн бұрын

I think he meant it more because of all the flak the habs and Reinbacher are getting he hopes Michkov doesn’t find immediate success because it will just exacerbate everything when he’s right in saying the real debate won’t be and shouldn’t be for years to come

@GrantMcCagg-yn4fy

2 күн бұрын

Yep. Imagine being honest..what a concept. Funny that you neglected to mention the part where I said "struggles this season". And do you know why? Because people will be insufferable on Twitter and consider it full judgment on both his career and Reinbachers. David is already under enough pressure in Montreal.

@logant9546

2 күн бұрын

@@GrantMcCagg-yn4fy So you want a kid to struggle this year so your feelings don't get hurt on Twitter? Pathetic loser

This podcast is high as FUCK on copium lmao

Why is this guy so butthurt 😂😂 he CLEARLY is pissed Michkov wasn’t the pick

Massive coping happening here

Habs need a guy who can pop goals, not a guy who can pop corn.

ULTIMATE COPE

I think the reason the habs get flack for picking Reinbacher is because of how much the fan base wanted Michkov.

@user-fh9bf7uv4l

3 күн бұрын

Except we go off of the hype, and what others say, not firsthand knowledge. We have to trust the management team, because they’ve done the leg work.

@Poldylox

3 күн бұрын

@@user-fh9bf7uv4l oh yh 100%. It’s so unfair to mock the Reinbacher pick. I get poking fun at habs fans but in the end, Reinbacher could be a great player for the habs. I’m a flyers fan and have never really mocked the pick because Reinbacher deserves the chance to succeed and justify his selection. Hope he does great.

@user-qz3um5rw4g

2 күн бұрын

@@Poldylox it's ok to mock the pick, but not the player, he didn't force Habs management to draft him with a gun pointing to their heads.

@Poldylox

2 күн бұрын

@@user-qz3um5rw4g 100%

Reinbacher was grant boys since day 1 .He said a lot of things about Michkov true or not nobody knows. but the reality is that he will be in a core of a rebuilding team as a top prospect in the league…

The talent in the KHL isn’t great but the Swiss league 2nd tier Reinbacher struggled in is NHL caliber.

@sirfish9824

2 күн бұрын

Exactly they act like the khl isn’t the second best professional league in the world. And Michkov was on the worst team in the league. They weren’t last year because of Michkov and only he could have done so much.

Lol the cope is so hard here

"I hope he fails (scores10 goals)", sorry, I am not a flyers fan, but that's a definition of salty, Talvanen was never in the same conversation, Michkov is beating Ovechkin's, and Kucherov's records.

Zeev Buium is not only a better offensive player than Levshunov, he’s also a better defender

Philly definitely would not have taken Reinbacher. They were trying to trade up for Michkov. Also Arizona/Utah isnt getting criticized because Michkov told them he wouldnt play for them so they had no choice but to take somebody else.

@darrenpinard1658

4 күн бұрын

If he’s so godlike you take him to trade.

@DarksideJim

3 күн бұрын

They really coping thinking we would’ve taken Reinbacher over Michkov😂😂😂😂this shit is unreal

Tolvanen was considered the second best player in his draft? No. Come on.

This debate is so tired. Come talk to me when either team wins the cup.

@patricklafleche9559

4 күн бұрын

they will not win the cup,. even the oilers are playing defensive hockey

Buium isn't talked about for 2nd overall because he's below average sized for a defenseman (average in the NHL is 6"1 200llb) and he's a LD. There's a world of difference between can play both sides and should play both sides. There's going to be a side he's better at and that's LD because he shoots left. A 6"2 RD that can do some of everything you want from a D is obviously preferable. RDs are rarer and and he's above average size for a defenseman. The size matters. As size becomes more and more important what is small vs big by NHL standards is changing

Good chance Buium goes to Anaheim at 3 in my opinion. Great D prospect originally from San Diego, which is only 2 hours south of Anaheim.

He said Michkov's numbers in the KHL don't mean much because the KHL is watered down. Later he says Demidov who couldn't play in the KHL should be #2.

@Thrawn.

4 күн бұрын

Demidov could play in the KHL. His team keeps him buried in the VHL as punishment. You should really read a book or something.

@Thrawn.

4 күн бұрын

Watching the finals this year, the rinks are too small. The players are so big and fast now that they are on you within a second. Increasing the size of the NHL rinks to somewhere between current NA and Olympic size would do wonders for the game.

@pipoj5

3 күн бұрын

​@@Thrawn.He plays in mhl not vhl you dont know much about hockey do you?💀

@sirfish9824

3 күн бұрын

@@Thrawn.demidov hasn’t even played in the junior tournament either. Michkov had 17 goals in 9 games in the junior tournaments. He outplayed bedard whenever they played eachother.

@lindafedchuk5147

3 күн бұрын

​@Thrawn. Yes make the rinks bigger and maybe Michkov can be a good player 😂😂😂

Bro holy shit the amount of cope from the guy on the right in this video is unbelievable😂😂😂😂you guys are hilarious

@Whatdoingdog44

3 күн бұрын

He's a former nhl scout lol he's not coping he's being realistic Reinbacher is not a bad player lol

@pipoj5

3 күн бұрын

​@@Whatdoingdog44then why dosent he come to north America?

@Whatdoingdog44

3 күн бұрын

@@pipoj5 he already played a handful of games in the AHL last season bud and he dominated lol the kid is a fantastic hockey player.

@pipoj5

3 күн бұрын

@@Whatdoingdog44 khl is better league than ahl and why wont he play in nhl if he is so great?

@powers1500

3 күн бұрын

Even if I wanted Michkov or Leonard, Reinbacher was still a a safe pick which filled a need !!! However, drafting Leonard last year and Buium this year would have just been great !!! Buium is a much better defenseman than Reinbacher.

Agreed that Buium should be talked about at 2nd overall but why isn't Lindstrom being considered for that pick?

Cry cry cry. Michkov is gonna own the Canadiens!! Go FLYERS Go!!

Grant is the man !! 🎉🎉

If both Demidov and Lindstrom are selected before 5th, Habs select Beuem, then straight trade Guhle for McGroarty.

31 years on and the Hsbs are still the last Canadian team to win the cup

@charles6180

3 күн бұрын

How pathetic is that?!

@GoHabsGo-db7cb

3 күн бұрын

@@charles6180 believe it or not that was my point

Grant, we Habs fans have been second guessing Habs 1st round draft picks ever since Doug Wickenheiser (may he r.i.p.) was selected over Denis Savard, and this century the Louis Leblanc selection. You also mentioned KK was selected by a different management team however that is inaccurate given the players you mentioned, Caufield, Guhle & Mailloux were also selected by the same management team i.e. Bergevin. Slaf, Mesar & Reinbacher are the 1st round picks selected by Hugo.

These are the same mtl fans who wanted to pick Wright. Miss me with these buffoons

Can't wait for the draft to end the speculating. We can then debate about the players selected😄. Hopefully Cup contenders in 5 years. GO Habs GO!!!

Fact is, there were 6 teams that decided to skip over Michkov. There are a few obstacles facing Michkov--He has to play for Torts, and he is 5'10. Reinbacher will be a solid first pairing dman for a long time. Kent Hughes has done a tremendous job drafting and trading. Taking the best player available is, and always has been the best approach.

@canadian1445

4 күн бұрын

Fair point, but we are nowhere near being able to say Reinbacher will be a solid first pairing Dman. He could easily end up as a 3-4-5

@benozkleenex

3 күн бұрын

I think Rein will be a good second pair guy though.

When asked about the ceiling of Reinbacher, Hughes answered second pair D... Picking at 5 for a second pair D when you could have picked a potential superstar foward hurts. I really like Reinbacher, he will be a great player, but Michkov could be a superstar. Unless he said he did not want to play here, then there's no need for that discussion. We will see in the next few years if Hughes and Gorton made the right decision. Montreal seems to put a lot of emphasis on character and I guess Bobrov knew a thing or two about Michkov. Maybe his attitude was not in line with what the Habs wanted. I just hope we don't regret that pick. Personally, I'm not impressed with Bobrov and Gorton drafting in New York. Let's hope they do better here.

@Bartman721

Күн бұрын

Hughes did answer second pair D. I believe he was just being conservative, besides why would he proclaim #1 D with the pressure cooker that is montreal. Kids don't need to be tagged with that kind of pressure from the start.. Seems like a no win situation

@smallbuj7605

Күн бұрын

@@Bartman721 I agree, I'm sure he'll be a good D, I'm just wondering if Michkov will be an offensive dynamo which we kinda need. Maybe Michkov said he did not want to play with the Habs...

@Bartman721

Күн бұрын

@smallbuj7605 I agree, there is the possibility that he didn't want to play for the Habs but there are other possibilities as well...As an example, If his character was in question. A player can be a great goal scorer but if he's not the type of guy that other players take to, then it makes for an unhealthy locker room

Thank you Grant McCagg, the voice of reason!!

They had enough with Michkov over there, they told him to pack his bags and go to the Flyers immediately.

@sirfish9824

2 күн бұрын

Good. Now everyone will see he’s on the same level as bedard, could be better. I’ve watched him play last year and his team held him back so much. With an nhl team he’s gonna be a dirtball.

Before the draft kent hughes say in interview they gonna draft a right d and he do it and this year he say à foward check for RW is more what we need

This is all fine now, just hope you take accountability in 5 years when Michkov lights it up.

That's a joke headline right 😅😅😅

Is Michkov really 5'10? I've seen quite a few pics that make me think he is more like 5'7...5'8 at the most.

@adamjanks4966

4 күн бұрын

Nah he is but 5,10 flat

@tonytitani410

3 күн бұрын

in soviet russia you don't measure height, height measures you!

@sirfish9824

2 күн бұрын

He’s small but that fits his playstyle perfectly. He really reminds me of Patrick Kane with how he uses his hands in tight spaces. Watch his games and you’ll see. His hands are super underrated. His shot is also absurd. And he can pass as good as anyone I’ve seen. He’s an all around great player from what I’ve watched. Even on defense he can’t really check but he’s always in the right spot.

they already do

Michkov alone is already more relevant in the NHL than the Habs are.

@lindafedchuk5147

3 күн бұрын

Yes until Rainbacher makes a pancake out of him😂😂😂

@HughJazz1951

2 күн бұрын

You are irrelevant with that type of comment.

@TheMaestro116

Сағат бұрын

We got Demidov, you can keep your Michkov.

I will get the popcorn and watch the Habs dealing with what they create themselve by not taken the best player available… again 😂

@samspade4050

4 күн бұрын

Yes because you are an expert from your mom’s basement

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

@@samspade4050😂 cry more

@samspade4050

4 күн бұрын

@@mikecats wow what an intelligent response you must be a leafs fan

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

@@samspade4050your not smart enough to understand my comment dude…

@samspade4050

4 күн бұрын

@@mikecats oh of course not you are just so witty and intelligent. Don’t you have a leaf jersey burning somewhere you should be tending to.

and when suzuki gets hurt where will be the habs?

@cecaju9516

4 күн бұрын

What does that have to do with anything? What happens when any team’s top centre gets injured?

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

Bottom

@samspade4050

4 күн бұрын

You can say that about any teams top players what exactly is your point besides trolling

@Markedman66

3 күн бұрын

@@mikecatslike your wife

Michkov was literally being considered number 1 overall over bedard at one point they were going back and forth, it's ridiculous to think that without michkov being Russian this was a 1 2 bedard michkov top 2 without question if geopolitics weren't a part of the equation

@user-qz3um5rw4g

2 күн бұрын

@@xanderbaldwyn3980 except his coaches and teammates don't agree with you, funny how Habs fans know more about Michkov's personality than his own teammates, despite not being able to see him up close? Looks like copium overdose.

McCagg is a legend

When Mitchkov goes one on one with Reinbacher we can revisit this topic. A shut down defensively reliable solid first pair RD is worth 2 top 6 wingers No guarantee on which will be better at their position Reinbacher or Mitchkov Neither has suited up for 100 NHL games but my pick is Reinbacher Character speaks volumes.

@pipoj5

3 күн бұрын

Michkov is 100 times better

@sirfish9824

3 күн бұрын

Michkov scored 17 goals in 9 games for Russia as a 16 year old against grown men. He’s played in Russia where they don’t call penalties unless they are super obvious so he’s gotta be tough. He’s small so he slips around defenders easily and finds shooting lanes easily.

Imho leonard should've been the pick

45 minutes? It would be a lot easier to get through this if it was 25 minutes long

Copium

Its 99% loud mouth leaf fans that yap about the Habs picks.

13:15 Grant you dropped this 👑

Michkov can't defend shit. His Sochi team, with him getting much more time on ice, still equalled that sad record for most goals allowed by any KHL team EVER. (A record they had established the year prior when he started playing for them)

@user-qz3um5rw4g

4 күн бұрын

Sochi would destroy hc Kloten any day of the year.

@sirfish9824

2 күн бұрын

Go watch his team play and come back to this comment. He’s far and clear the best player. His positioning on the ice is the best I’ve ever seen in a prospect defensive and offensively. He’s way smarter than anyone’s saying. His shot is lightning fast. He’s going to be a problem and teams are gonna realize real fast he’s on the same tier as bedard.

Holy copium💀

Biggest cope ever😂😂

Reinbe is not impressive to me so far, sorry but i dont even think he will make nhl to be honest.

Reinbacher seems level headed and cool.

sexy year what is a sexy year?

how old is McCagg and how long will he live probably less then our prospect comes out to be good in like 30 years

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

exactly the time that the Habs had not an elite player in that league … 30 years … lets take a swing with a D 😂

@ledsabbazepplath3889

4 күн бұрын

What ?

This makes no sense. What has stoped the Habs from being a contending team the last ten years? Was it the lack of a good goalie? Was it the lack of good defence? No, it was the LACK OF OFFENSIVE TALENT. Has everyone gone stupid here?

Let it go. Michov wouldve been better. Just admit it and move on

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

Its painful to watch …

@moviestoshare813

4 күн бұрын

I was all-aboard the Michkov train. I was mad as heck when they picked Reinbacher at the time. But a year later with a calmer approach… if it’s really true that Michkov has character issues… it is not impossible he turns into a Yakupov type of shitshow. So no… I don’t think we can YET say : DR was a mistake, MM was the way to go. The Rule of waiting 5 years before judging still applies.

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

@@moviestoshare813 just hope is not grant who made you change your mind… management need to be accountable and grant too .

@cecaju9516

4 күн бұрын

You may be right. Maybe.

@bebravechangeispossible9855

3 күн бұрын

@@moviestoshare813 What proof is there that any issues exist? And its not about DR its about passing on MM. Additionally Grant has since has tried to discredit MM at every turn. Its overkill. If he wasnt a russian player none of this would be happenning. All the young players need time to develop. If the Canadiens draft Demidov will he be as critical especially knowing that ID hasnt even played in the KHL?

I hope columbus dont draft sennecke

Michkov was the one 👌 ❤️. Hughes ❤❤❤❤ 💋 💄 👄 💏

@royanderson3478

3 күн бұрын

Come on, Grant, Hughes missed and move on. Bergivin and Timmons no doubt would've picked michkov, the best available player 👌

They will obviously compare the level of players they become. If Michkov becomes an elite 100 pt guy and Reinbacher is just a decent player then its clear Michkov is better. If Reinbacher is a top pair stud and Michkov is defensive liability headcase you cant build around then Reinbacher is better etc.

@rich.jerkov

4 күн бұрын

I don't think it will be that easy to tell. There are plenty of players that are great during the regular season, but when the intensity and physicality is cranked up during the playoffs, they become ineffective. These are often small, skilled finesse players (not always of course). That's what scares me the most with Michkov. Looks like a player that will rack up a lot of points during the season, but be mostly invisible during the playoffs. They often cost a fortune because of the reg season points total but ultimately they don't make you win.

Flyers passed up Caufield for York. Twice. Turn about is fair play. In the end, they each get a good defenseman and goal scorer (potentially). It’s all good. They both got what they needed. And the KHL did make it official today.

You guys are so knowledgeable but your homerism is such a turn off. That Shayne guy just agrees to everything grant says

Who knows who will be better in 5 years. One thing I do know, Reinbacher is a good kid, a team player. Michkov on the other hand, according to people that have been around him, say he's got character issue , diva like issues. Do you want a guy like this in your team ? Bobrov knew more than anyone. Its not only about the Russian factors guys, there was other stuff about the individual. Now, it's going to be interesting to see how things go with Torts 😂.

Grant coming in hot on the MM vs DR debate.

Lmao Grant you fool

@samspade4050

4 күн бұрын

But of course you are a keyboard expert

because grant knows all

@rich.jerkov

4 күн бұрын

Ya, they should make a show with a guy that has no opinions about anything. Just answers "IDK", "maybe", "time will tell" to every question.

useless useless please remove him from your lineup

What ridiculous, fanboy, arguments for Reinbacher over Michkov.

Typical Habs. Take a defence in a forward draft, and now take a forward in a defence draft

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

He so dishonest its painfully to watch …

@cecaju9516

4 күн бұрын

Imagine what they’ll do in a goalie draft? Probably draft a quarterback.

@miltonsimitsakos9666

4 күн бұрын

How is this “typical”? It’s a new management team and so far they’re doing great. Let’s give them a chance before crucifying them

@enzodellacorte1909

4 күн бұрын

Typical maple laugh fan being unknowledgable! In fact, after Celebrini, the next big prospects are defenceman🤡

@mikecats

4 күн бұрын

@@miltonsimitsakos9666 typical habs for winning too much in a rebuild and bad drafting…

habs f'd up so hard

Trade guhle and winepegs 1st and a 3rd for ehlers and mcgroaty. Trade ehlers for one of the bigger names like necas. Trade matheson and Calgarys 1st for 10th and draft seneckke. Draft bueim 5th. Trade some cap space and sign a vet LD