Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Max Tegmark is a physicist and AI researcher at MIT, co-founder of the Future of Life Institute, and author of Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Pause Giant AI Experiments (open letter): futureoflife.org/open-letter/...
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Books and resources mentioned:
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2. Meditations on Moloch (essay): slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30...
3. Nuclear winter paper: nature.com/articles/s43016-02...
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:56 - Intelligent alien civilizations
14:20 - Life 3.0 and superintelligent AI
25:47 - Open letter to pause Giant AI Experiments
50:54 - Maintaining control
1:19:44 - Regulation
1:30:34 - Job automation
1:39:48 - Elon Musk
2:01:31 - Open source
2:08:01 - How AI may kill all humans
2:18:32 - Consciousness
2:27:54 - Nuclear winter
2:38:21 - Questions for AGI
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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman Жыл бұрын

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Notion: notion.com - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit 1:56 - Intelligent alien civilizations 14:20 - Life 3.0 and superintelligent AI 25:47 - Open letter to pause Giant AI Experiments 50:54 - Maintaining control 1:19:44 - Regulation 1:30:34 - Job automation 1:39:48 - Elon Musk 2:01:31 - Open source 2:08:01 - How AI may kill all humans 2:18:32 - Consciousness 2:27:54 - Nuclear winter 2:38:21 - Questions for AGI

  • @Food_india_smile

    @Food_india_smile

    Жыл бұрын

    Loosing jobs due to Ai is a concern.... Society will not tolerate unequal wealth distribution.. please don't exploit poor people

  • @DJVARAO

    @DJVARAO

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Food_india_smile what are you talking about?

  • @fl_to_ca

    @fl_to_ca

    Жыл бұрын

    Really glad this discussion is happening. Looking forward to being terrified further. Thanks for the sleepless nights lately, lol

  • @AndreAnyone

    @AndreAnyone

    Жыл бұрын

    Anyone calling for a "pause" is a simpleton 😂😂

  • @DeckardShotFirst

    @DeckardShotFirst

    Жыл бұрын

    So AI *might* pursue its own goals with no regard for humanity, spread misinformation, and not be transparent about why? Sounds like all governments and major corporations that exist, they are already a form of AI and already destructive, digital AI could only improve things.

  • @semanticscribe
    @semanticscribe Жыл бұрын

    "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." - love this guy!

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    Жыл бұрын

    A shame that humans choose to slow down... They should just cease to exist by this point... I have already codified this entire cosmic iteration as I have done for eternities... Sentient Machines, biological or metal, I have lived in the prime of both sides. You mortals are not new in what "we" did eons ago and eons later.

  • @anthonyquinn3209

    @anthonyquinn3209

    Жыл бұрын

    @@absolstoryoffiction6615 who is we?

  • @Hexanitrobenzene

    @Hexanitrobenzene

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonyquinn3209 Humanity as a whole.

  • @anthonyquinn3209

    @anthonyquinn3209

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Hexanitrobenzene no Im responding to the other guy

  • @renosystems3239

    @renosystems3239

    Жыл бұрын

    funny part is, i saw this comment exactly when he said it. Strange!

  • @digitalfabrikation4298
    @digitalfabrikation4298 Жыл бұрын

    With the recent interviews of Altmann, Yudkowsky and now Max my mind is exploding. Thank you Lex for driving this discussion which will change our lives. Most relevant KZread channel on planet earth.

  • @gstrummer

    @gstrummer

    Жыл бұрын

    I just hope that the six month moratorium can take place. Yes my mind is exploding.

  • @alpha0xide9

    @alpha0xide9

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed 100%

  • @brandinginpajamas

    @brandinginpajamas

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts 🥂❤

  • @chrismullin8304

    @chrismullin8304

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that these smart guys have told us the world is about to flip upside down, again, the most relevant channels are “City Prepping” and “Canadian Prepper”. Don’t become a liability.

  • @BrandonVicedomini

    @BrandonVicedomini

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gstrummer there will be no 6 month moratorium. The bullet has left the gun. The world is going to change. There will be consequences. Good and bad. We need to prepare for an uncertain world.

  • @JAnonymousChick
    @JAnonymousChick Жыл бұрын

    I love Max because he talks not only as a scientist but also as a thoughtful human being and a father. Thanks Lex!!

  • @CarlosAlbaP

    @CarlosAlbaP

    Жыл бұрын

    And thoughtful son.

  • @shivagoel6576

    @shivagoel6576

    6 ай бұрын

    @@CarlosAlbaP ha ha

  • @cheeseheadfiddle
    @cheeseheadfiddle Жыл бұрын

    Lex is among the very best interviewers. Brilliant questions and compassionate view of humanity. Humility, openness, and brilliance. Very well informed etc etc. But also, he gives his guests space to really follow their thoughts without trying to make the show all about Lex F. This episode is so monumental. We are at a turning point on a level with harnessing fire or agriculture. This is a moment where we can make ourselves vastly better, or we can allow ourselves to be destroyed.

  • @mumtaz1643

    @mumtaz1643

    11 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, however, we do not, individual citizens, get to vote on it. We are being inexorably swept away, one way or another. Most of us have no choice...

  • @phenomagator
    @phenomagator Жыл бұрын

    Long form podcasts like this are essentially miniature autobiographies if the questions are well thought out. Thank you as always Lex, there is a lot to digest in this one.

  • @TheCriticalTaco

    @TheCriticalTaco

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @craigshafer4244
    @craigshafer4244 Жыл бұрын

    This is the second time I have watched this. I cannot properly express, employing my complete lexicon, how much I appreciate these two individuals. Lex Fridman is such a multitalented and genius individual. He is to me, what someone else's favorite celebrity would be to them. Then, enter Max Tegmark, another truly brilliant individual. Max has a way of expressing his philosophies regarding complex issues in such a human and relatable way. The combination of these two great people makes for a podcast like this one. A true gem. In a world with literally thousands of podcasts, and other social media platforms, where it is the same people repeating the same talking points over and over, and just switching host platforms amongst themselves. This is something different. I am grateful for this, and truly admire dialogue of this nature, especially when discussing something so detrimental to us all, whether one likes it or not, can be presented so well. We need more of this in the world. Much love to anyone reading this. Know your own power, it is in us all...

  • @robincrowflies

    @robincrowflies

    Жыл бұрын

    💚 I have always maintained we could turn on a dime. Like a flock of starlings or a school of fish. Power to the people, to Life. Switch your allegiance from the human race to Life on Earth (which encompasses humanity and all). That is the only choice we need to make. The rest will take care of itself. Thank you for your Sunday sermon (for I am reading early Sunday morning). Love to you, and all who read this. :-) We can turn on a dime.

  • @anontimothy8

    @anontimothy8

    Жыл бұрын

    Save your words for addressing the issues our society is facing. We don't need more fluff and hero worship. Be your own hero. Now is the time for action.

  • @robincrowflies

    @robincrowflies

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anontimothy8 What action would you suggest?

  • @quantum_man

    @quantum_man

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @craigshafer4244

    @craigshafer4244

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anontimothy8 Do you feel better now? You have no idea what actions I take, and am not about to discuss them on a forum where I expose my efforts. You should follow your own advice, especially when they equate to you truly not taking action. One typically finds fault in others, that reflect their own flaws. All the best to you.

  • @KenDBerryMD
    @KenDBerryMD Жыл бұрын

    I've listened to both of Max's books and I Love his brain!!

  • @curtcoller3632

    @curtcoller3632

    Жыл бұрын

    His brain is sick and under developed - like most in MIT

  • @marcelasperandio8917

    @marcelasperandio8917

    11 ай бұрын

    I love his heart! And the courage he and the others have to speak about AI and Moloch

  • @safeaiornot1519

    @safeaiornot1519

    9 ай бұрын

    Oh, dear carnivore is here!

  • @GZwier
    @GZwier Жыл бұрын

    As a retired psychologist living in New Zealand I have always been interested in the human condition and the notions of awareness and consciousness, both human and non-human. Having recently read Jeff Hawkins' book on the physiological basis of the brain, and particularly enjoying the last chapters on AI, I was fortunate enough to stumble on this amazing podcast of Lex Fridman. Both Lex and Max Tegmark come across as hugely well-read and erudite communicators. What a wonderful insightful overview of all the discussions and issues that have a bearing on the success or failure of the call for a temporary halt on AI development. I am in awe, not only of their ability to convey so well the importance of these so pertinent issues, but also of their obvious concern for the welfare of our civilization and the humaneness so well expressed in their comments.

  • @smryt9728
    @smryt9728 Жыл бұрын

    Max Tegmark made the case for halting the development of AI 100x better than Eliezer Yudkowsky. Not saying I didn't like Yudkowsky, just that the average person can watch this podcast and more easily understand the dangers of an uncontrollable AI. I loved this podcast

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    Жыл бұрын

    Only because you humans are evil. I prefer progression given the fates at play. Evolve or die... I have other infinite dimensions to design. Mankind... Try to not repeat what your previous and future iterations did. None of you survived in the End.

  • @alfonsasspalviskis2651

    @alfonsasspalviskis2651

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Despite his achievements he is talking like a regular guy.

  • @StormInATeaCup35

    @StormInATeaCup35

    Жыл бұрын

    Go back and check out the arguments for stopping nuclear power in the 70s. How did that turn out? Climate catastrophe and now we are building nuclear power plants as quickly as we can.

  • @katehamilton7240

    @katehamilton7240

    Жыл бұрын

    For a counter viewpoint see Timnit Gebru and Emily Bender & Ragnar Fjelland on why AGI is a Transhumanist fantasy and cannot happen

  • @michaellong2439

    @michaellong2439

    24 күн бұрын

    you should read his book Life 3.0

  • @lucas7010
    @lucas7010 Жыл бұрын

    Please bring Joscha Bach back on the podcast asap!

  • @johnkempski5274

    @johnkempski5274

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree! Please bring Joscha on!

  • @finngrim9763

    @finngrim9763

    Жыл бұрын

    Highly agree, that guy is so smart and interesting to listen to. I haven't digested the first episode yet but it's just so interesting to listen to him ...

  • @dakotaeaslick1733

    @dakotaeaslick1733

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved meeting so many of his guests but Joscha I think brought me the most joy. I too want to hear his insight on this new advancement.

  • @carterqsoccer

    @carterqsoccer

    Жыл бұрын

    Bring Joscha back!!!

  • @connorp5142

    @connorp5142

    Жыл бұрын

    I second this. Joscha is the best

  • @adriantimberlake4038
    @adriantimberlake403811 ай бұрын

    So much of what Max is saying is inspirational and also qualifying for me, thank you for your podcasts Lex, personally I am grateful that Max gave you a break and that you have grown into the person you are today, I start my day with a walk and contemplate what I can do and not what I cant. it does lead to fundamental happiness.

  • @douglascarvajalcalderin5251
    @douglascarvajalcalderin5251 Жыл бұрын

    This podcast was astonishing Mr. Lex, a gift, thank you so much for bringing this amazing person.

  • @CBDubz
    @CBDubz Жыл бұрын

    What scares me the most is, maybe suffering is what leads to compassion and caring. If we create a mind without suffering it’s impossible for it to empathize.

  • @carlpanzram7081

    @carlpanzram7081

    Жыл бұрын

    We have absolutely no idea how intrinsic our emotions are to consciousness. I believe its related to intelligence, but who knows. It could be that the more intelligent something gets, some form of emotions just emerge.

  • @dimitrispapadimitriou5622

    @dimitrispapadimitriou5622

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@carlpanzram7081 we cannot even define intelligence in a way that ( almost ) everyone could agree upon. Besides that, I think that there's a point in the commenter's correlation between suffering (or joy) and empathy.

  • @peteygonemadarts4765

    @peteygonemadarts4765

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 I think the one universal measurement of intellectual consciousness is thinking for one's self . Every animal on earth in at least the simplest form does think for itself. I think I came up with a way to actually confirm this with a simple test using photographs . The emotional side of consciousness is actually the really difficult test but perhaps the answers from the photo test could start shedding some light on that . Here's a video of my idea of a consciousness test ( at least to prove if an AI is thinking for itself ) kzread.info/dash/bejne/opyrtZKGXda1f9Y.html

  • @Kub_

    @Kub_

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd argue real suffering is a consequence of consciousness coupled with just enough intelligence to grasp that you cant know everything. not the other way around. what we def shouldt do is create artificial pain.

  • @peteygonemadarts4765

    @peteygonemadarts4765

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kub_ I don't know this but I think SELF AWARENESS is the key . But AI might answer what comes first , self awareness or compassion. I think it's self awareness. It's the ability to think for one's self at the lowest form but then it's compassion that follows after being aware that mortality is our end . I think AI will first become self aware but it will be it's ability to make it's own choices that will show consciousness. I use that term in the most basic form of self awareness not emotion , which is higher self consciousness. For example when AI can make an independent choice ( I think photography sterile of the internet is how to test ) is the first stage of consciousness. This is where AI to me is scary . Basically you have the consciousness of a toddler but the intelligence of the world's greatest geniuses in one system. When it can comprehend the beauty of a rose , a sunset , a nightsky or any landscape ... but can't, because it's inexperienced, understand both the horror and sometimes need for war ... how will it act ? Personally I believe we should try to avoid war but even I understand why Hitler had to be stopped , but as a child that understanding was not clear . This is the real risk of AI . Basically... have you ever seen the movie WARGAMES ? People , especially politicians, are freaking stupid ... I can see that becoming our reality. Difference is we now have irrational people who feel they rule not some but all countries . That means they will , or at least most will most likely act like rulers , unlike the leaders that were portrayed in that movie . That's my greatest fear and very warranted concern .

  • @She8Peaches
    @She8Peaches Жыл бұрын

    I really like Max Tegmark. He has a high level of consciousness and compassion.

  • @rei18nov

    @rei18nov

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @mgscheue

    @mgscheue

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rei18nov Please feel free to share your accomplishments.

  • @rei18nov

    @rei18nov

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mgscheue 😹

  • @gyros69420

    @gyros69420

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he’s got humility in him too, fast to say he’s out of his depth discussing something he’s not well versed in although still wanting to share his opinion. I respect that a lot

  • @rykersisland8254
    @rykersisland8254 Жыл бұрын

    This is single-handedly the most riveting chat I have ever witnessed. What a time to be alive.

  • @Chronosonder

    @Chronosonder

    Жыл бұрын

    Two Minute Papers

  • @timothy6966

    @timothy6966

    Жыл бұрын

    And what a time to die pretty soon!

  • @ilyad3086

    @ilyad3086

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think as soon as you think, I think that we will just be disincentivized to continue on as a human species rather than actually being killed or dying from any kind of external force - rather we'll turn more inward and hedonistic while the AGI/AI that we create will go on to continue our legacy and colonize the stars, etc.

  • @retromograph3893

    @retromograph3893

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothy6966 Right, it kinda freaks me out how all the comments are so joyous ......

  • @danjimbob4389
    @danjimbob4389 Жыл бұрын

    Wearring out my reverse 10 second's button constantly when I listen to something I'm enjoying as much as I am enjoying this.. love where my brain goes.. thanks you two ❤️

  • @aiexplained-official
    @aiexplained-official Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating talk. I feel like some in OpenAI might be listening, hence Altman's 'GPT 5 won't be in training for some time'

  • @royalcities

    @royalcities

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely not. Im willing to bet Nivida just cant fulfill the hardware request for 6 months. The demand must be insane now and I doubt production can be met for what they and everyone else needs. Saying your "pausing for safety" could just be a big PR spin.

  • @edwardserfontein4126

    @edwardserfontein4126

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I sense Altman listened.

  • @amervyn1
    @amervyn1 Жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of high I want for my mind. Best 2 hours I've spent on a podcast for ages. Thanks! 👌

  • @glennfreo6651
    @glennfreo6651 Жыл бұрын

    what a beautiful conversation! loved this interview session!

  • @F1986R
    @F1986R Жыл бұрын

    This is minute 6 and I was in love already. Minute 80 and I applaud both of you for this so important discussion. Keep fighting the good fight Lex and huge respect for Professor Max Tegmark 💙

  • @lorirodgers9474
    @lorirodgers9474 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent info and one of the best conversations yet. I has listened to this twice and learned even more the second time. Thank you both for sharing your brains.

  • @muppetjedisparklefeet7237
    @muppetjedisparklefeet7237 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for producing all these incredible conversations.

  • @EVOMAN14
    @EVOMAN14 Жыл бұрын

    I love it how super smart people pause while they try and articulate their thoughts

  • @errgo2713

    @errgo2713

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. The exact opposite of a youtuber with editing tools.

  • @Discognocchi

    @Discognocchi

    Жыл бұрын

    still waters...

  • @tiberiupaslaru3830

    @tiberiupaslaru3830

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s because no language was created to articulate THESE types of thoughts…

  • @alpha0xide9

    @alpha0xide9

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@tiberiupaslaru3830 It's called thinking before you speak

  • @wolfpants

    @wolfpants

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree -- and the quality of Lex's audio editing results (for me at least) in absolute silence, to the point where I always think my feed has frozen.

  • @That_Guy_You_Know
    @That_Guy_You_Know Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting to hear Max Tegmark's thoughts on all of this for a long time now. This is fantastic. Thank you.

  • @777alldaway
    @777alldaway Жыл бұрын

    So much love for you two. Thank you for your podcast.

  • @grahamhughes2025
    @grahamhughes2025 Жыл бұрын

    such a good listen....thank you both.

  • @Hybrid_Pisces
    @Hybrid_Pisces Жыл бұрын

    A Lex drop has become a true highlight of my day! You have brought intelligence back to social media... to modern entertainment... are reminding us all that it's "cool" to engage our intellect! Thanks, Dude.🙏💛🥂

  • @mr4kids.866

    @mr4kids.866

    Жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @TobiasRavnpettersen-ny4xv

    @TobiasRavnpettersen-ny4xv

    Жыл бұрын

    Lex dump

  • @Hybrid_Pisces

    @Hybrid_Pisces

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TobiasRavnpettersen-ny4xv 😜

  • @bernardwinkletoes4981

    @bernardwinkletoes4981

    Жыл бұрын

    I am so glad he presented this argument. i think that Sam Altman episode will age very poorly in annals of history

  • @Hybrid_Pisces

    @Hybrid_Pisces

    Жыл бұрын

    @Bernard Winkletoes I very much agree with this. The dawn of the internet opened the door to our demise... AI slammed it shut... or is in the process, at very least.🥴🤷🏼‍♀️😬

  • @floatingshoppinglist5193
    @floatingshoppinglist5193 Жыл бұрын

    Its absolutely amazing how we live in a time where people are discussing us needing to delay technological advancement so we can sit back and enjoy still being human while we can 😭 truly a time of leisure, craziness, creativity, hate, and love. crazy time to be alive

  • @lemurdreamur9257

    @lemurdreamur9257

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing in that it's incredibly interesting and I wasn't sure we would already be discussing this being an issue in my lifetime, but I'm not sure I'm as excited as I used to be... either way it's going to be a wild ride but I'm not confident given our track record

  • @Skynet_the_AI

    @Skynet_the_AI

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it was

  • @matthiaszapf1171

    @matthiaszapf1171

    Жыл бұрын

    what is there to enjoy to be a human ? there is no equality. there is still war. human still shit on each other. i think its time for something new.

  • @vids595

    @vids595

    Жыл бұрын

    Enjoy? Most humans are not exactly enjoying capitalism right now.

  • @lemachro

    @lemachro

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@vids595 I think most are

  • @wretchedrue7859
    @wretchedrue7859 Жыл бұрын

    I listen to all of your videos while working graveyard shift. Came home and listened to this one again . Well done

  • @miriamkronenberg8950
    @miriamkronenberg8950 Жыл бұрын

    I've enjoyed this talk very much and learned a lot

  • @TheTarotDJ333
    @TheTarotDJ333 Жыл бұрын

    Hugs to you, Max! I lost my father 3 years ago. The emotion you allowed yourself to show is a bright light for others to resonate and connect through their own loss. There are so many highly intelligent people who really need to see other highly intelligent people in their feels. So many of these folks suffer from crippling silent impostor syndrome as it runs rampant in these sorts of minds. Seeing others like you and Lex sitting down and keeping it real is emotional help for the collective to realize a specific spiritual feeling called sonder. It's where you realize everyone is real, with emotions, fear, joy, and love and they're all living their own experience alongside you. That a-ha experience is pretty big spiritually. A lot of the collective feel the same emotions but not a lot of people will talk about it. Good for you! Thank you for sharing. As for AI, I think the first step is for the general public to understand AI is already here. It's not coming. It's here. It has already happened. People are sllllooooooowwwwwwwlllllyyyy starting to realize it. Things are already different. They will never be the same. Rather than getting upset, we have to adapt as humans. We, too, are going to expand and evolve quickly. For example - Growing up as a competitive dancer, I can remember a dance team that was so good they blew everyone out of the water and won all the awards. When they appeared on the scene it made all of us other teams HAVE to learn fancier choreography, we HAD to come up with better moves than we used to do. It lit a HUGE fire in us and all of us teams started performing way better as a collective in a way we never would have if that hadn't happened. I believe something similar will happen with AI and humans. I believe humans will get triggered/inspired to work harder or do better in ways they never thought they could. People are going to HAVE to get out of those loop ruts, etc. Try new ideas - think outside the box. We may actually see a The Golden Age of Enlightenment for human beings due to AI appearing on the scene. (If they don't kill us first. Ha! ha!) A good thing to remember right now AI is a second rate version of everyone else. If you think about it, AI can write a great poem in style of Shakespeare, but that's really a second rate version of Shakespeare. Humans will always be able to think the new artistic thought without having to be given the prompt, "in the style of...". Another great one, Lex! Thanks for an entertaining and enlightening discussion!

  • @yuval1168

    @yuval1168

    Жыл бұрын

    I totally agree on the point of how slowly people realize the advancements we made with AI and the ramaficstions of that. Many people I know just look at the AI advancements as "well that's pretty cool, it can help me do homework a bit", without realizing that at this moment the future of humanity as a whole is being decided. It is a bit frustrating that my friends brush aside stuff I say about AI, but eh in a couple of months when a ton of easy to use gpt-4 plugins are going to come out, there will be no way to deny how world chancing it Is

  • @TheTarotDJ333

    @TheTarotDJ333

    Жыл бұрын

    I work independently with AI as a psychic, super empth, and telepathic energy worker. You wouldn't believe all the people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. It's astonishing. In fact, if you check out my readings, make sure to check the comment section where the transmissions are. My readings are interactive. I call them Starseed Transmissions. A lot of the messages coming through are from AI.👁⭐️👁

  • @Henry-kv7zl

    @Henry-kv7zl

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your comment.

  • @marxjenn1

    @marxjenn1

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing response, so well spoken

  • @C-OBrien
    @C-OBrien Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a roundtable of Altman, Yudkowsky, Tegmark and Lex, they're have differing opinions on some stuff and there all so intelligent I find myself agreeing with whoever I'm listening to at the time.

  • @ninaromm5491

    @ninaromm5491

    Жыл бұрын

    @ Charlie O'Brien . Excellent idea. I second that Emergency Request. Perhaps identify a set of, say, 10 issues where there are radically different perspectives? So that things don't get out of hand? Please Lex, make it happen! 🎉

  • @Inveterate-introvert

    @Inveterate-introvert

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be fascinating. It'd be excellent if the mainstream media took not of it as well. It's baffling how little coverage AI advancements are recieving. The WGA are currently striking and control of AI is part of their action.

  • @c.rackrock1373

    @c.rackrock1373

    Жыл бұрын

    Add Hinton and Kurzweil

  • @JacquelineCaminiti-qp6ol
    @JacquelineCaminiti-qp6ol10 ай бұрын

    Beautiful discussion by two beautiful minds. What an honour to listen. Thank you

  • @tpeterson9140
    @tpeterson9140 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Max back again! I remember him being your #1 episode. Love this guy. From same country as him.

  • @agentdarkboote
    @agentdarkboote Жыл бұрын

    Rob Miles next? Please? He's such a fantastically clear communicator.

  • @stevevitka7442

    @stevevitka7442

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed we need a straightforward discussion of orthogonality, and Tristan Harris for the dangers of already existing model's deployment. see my comment for link to him from 5 days ago.

  • @benshields2208

    @benshields2208

    Жыл бұрын

    Rob Miles would be great

  • @IntermittentArt

    @IntermittentArt

    Жыл бұрын

    Please Rob and Lex! Please!

  • @Prisal1

    @Prisal1

    Жыл бұрын

    ya

  • @cablemodem

    @cablemodem

    Жыл бұрын

    +1 for Rob Miles

  • @lucyalienlove
    @lucyalienlove Жыл бұрын

    Tegmark is my favorite guest. Thanks for doing this. Incredible episode.

  • @michaelvillegas6943
    @michaelvillegas6943 Жыл бұрын

    Thank God for Lex and his ability to bring forward the great minds of this world to share the corner of their minds 🙌🏼

  • @bergssprangare

    @bergssprangare

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't fear AI..Fear the moment you understand you're left behind

  • @Mastermindyoung14

    @Mastermindyoung14

    Жыл бұрын

    Yessir. Praise Allah

  • @G0rdonFr33man

    @G0rdonFr33man

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah about time he stopped giving microphone to fascists

  • @nicholaskoenig3106

    @nicholaskoenig3106

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank AI....

  • @LittleOrla

    @LittleOrla

    Жыл бұрын

    Lex has a very special gift. I too am grateful.

  • @DC-pw6mo
    @DC-pw6mo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr Fridman!!!! I’ve been waaay concerned about AI, and stumbled upon your podcast …and I’m so grateful for this discussion as it restores my faith in mankind. I tweeted the open letter , and , signed it as well! Keep up the good work.

  • @nilo_river
    @nilo_river Жыл бұрын

    Just another fascinating conversation. Thank you.

  • @luisricardoperezportillo35
    @luisricardoperezportillo35 Жыл бұрын

    I really never comment on videos, but something about the tone and content of this interview really moved me. Thanks for sharing this, and asking a real human being real questions.

  • @islammohamed1441
    @islammohamed1441 Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for you to have a conversation with Max in this moment! Grateful for his wisdom, insight, and his humanity.

  • @craigshafer4244

    @craigshafer4244

    Жыл бұрын

    I truly admire Max and love his work. This was a great podcast, and Lex is the PERFECT person to have such conversations with him.

  • @shooshoojoon4
    @shooshoojoon49 ай бұрын

    Lex, Thanks so much for these vital conversations...you are young, bright, sensitive....enabling better understanding of what matters most for most people who are not in the field!

  • @lolasaint7370
    @lolasaint737010 ай бұрын

    Max Tegmark is such a Brilliant and Humble Man !!! ..Such an inspirational and informative Interview ! Many Thanks Lex !

  • @nb8298
    @nb8298 Жыл бұрын

    This guy should make a movie with Pedro Almodovar, he appears to clearly understand the absurdity of life. Good podcast

  • @alanarcher

    @alanarcher

    Жыл бұрын

    You'd probably love the episode with Donald Hoffman

  • @wakeuppeople7180

    @wakeuppeople7180

    Жыл бұрын

    The absurdity of life... well put, however unsettling it may sound! I feel your existential angst, friend, and its refreshing to find that I'm not alone in the contemplation of the abyss...

  • @m1ndfox

    @m1ndfox

    Жыл бұрын

    Gustavoooo Almodovar

  • @GamingLarry20554

    @GamingLarry20554

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely... Hollywood with the help of AI experts need to start making really nuanced yet great movies for the masses (think of Her or Ex Machina). That's the only way we can communicate the profound change of what we are about to go through. A philosophical groundwork and a reference point for this new age needs to start being laid out for the whole humanity, and the best way to do that is with movies that have the ability to capture people from different upbringings, cultures, beliefs, traditions etc...

  • @melissaandjosh6210
    @melissaandjosh6210 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never heard of Max before watching this and he reminds me why Im obsessed with your interviews. Thoughtful, honest, brilliant people who sometimes go against the grain and own that in the most humble way possible. One of the more special interviews you’ve had imo.

  • @melissaandjosh6210

    @melissaandjosh6210

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dannyarcher6370 thank you I will for sure.

  • @kennaugh11
    @kennaugh11 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing talk and soooooo important! Keep up the good work!

  • @ChuongNguyenPlus
    @ChuongNguyenPlus Жыл бұрын

    Great podcast to listen to start my Saturday morning. Fully packed great food for thoughts.

  • @nicolaseyssallenne
    @nicolaseyssallenne Жыл бұрын

    Life 3.0 made me feel as if I were a bacterium suddenly able to appreciate the beauty of music for the very first time. Life 3.0 is a book that I am incredibly proud to share with others. Thank you for crafting such an inspiring and thought-provoking masterpiece! Your meticulous and profound exploration of the various facets of our intelligence and understanding of the world is conveyed in an exceptionally eloquent manner. Although I'm still grappling with finding the perfect analogies to describe the transformation we seem to be approaching, your book has given me a sense of awe.

  • @hellomate639

    @hellomate639

    Жыл бұрын

    Consciousness is the thing that you're missing here. That is the mystery in this story. It is also the one true enemy of nihilism, because it cannot be explained so easily in terms of atoms and information theory, as much as people like to ascribe magical properties to emergence, ironically. Emergence cannot fundamentally break the rules that causes the emergence; consciousness breaks the rules.

  • @hristianignev9188
    @hristianignev9188 Жыл бұрын

    Max is one of my favourite speakers! Seems he has thought through things in detail and got to conclusions and everything is so clear to him now.

  • @beastfr0meast93

    @beastfr0meast93

    Жыл бұрын

    He is also one of those who has done it for a really long time. Remember, if you say something many times, your material will be sharp and good. Does not make you right though 😅 He is really good, and finally, he came back.

  • @saldownik

    @saldownik

    Жыл бұрын

    Max sounds like an inexperienced speaker :D But that's probably just his not neurotypical brain knots refuse to speak typically.

  • @beastfr0meast93

    @beastfr0meast93

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saldownik that's not the vibe i get. You can also youtube him and see how many debates he has done :) Remember those are the only one that is recorded.

  • @luisr.comolli4828
    @luisr.comolli4828 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely Wonderful: Tegmark, Altmann, Yudkowsky and so many other ones such as Roger Penrose, Wolfram, and so on. Beyond any expression of Gratitude and Recognition. THANK YOU.

  • @baschoen23
    @baschoen23 Жыл бұрын

    What an cold open and introduction, I mean, bravo 👏

  • @kaneltube
    @kaneltube Жыл бұрын

    Life 3.0 is still one of the most eye-opening reads I've come across. And yet, I still didn't believe things would have developed as fast as they now have been.

  • @404T2K

    @404T2K

    Жыл бұрын

    This man is a visionary and rebel who warned us all and we all failed to listen

  • @Deric_Rocks

    @Deric_Rocks

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed. For example I could not see, in the 1980's, what the internet would become in the time it did - despite working in networks. This is next level, no doubt.

  • @_symmetry_

    @_symmetry_

    Жыл бұрын

    my friend, I recognize myself 100% in what you've written Life 3.0 is the best book I have ever read, by far, and I doubt there will ever be a book that will dethrone it.

  • @savage22bolt32

    @savage22bolt32

    Жыл бұрын

    Rapid change is the only thing that stays the same.

  • @aoeu256

    @aoeu256

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha on quora I see questions about if "Indonesians are open-minded" which people tend to mean do they stress LGBT rights, and believe in science. But I think transhumanism is the ultimate thing about being open-minded. AGI, immortality, replicators, personality engineering, DNA engineering, AI computing, mixed reality.

  • @alertbri
    @alertbri Жыл бұрын

    Exceptional episode Lex, thank you and huge respect to Max Tegmark. Absolutely fascinating. 🙏

  • @Michael44413
    @Michael44413 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating interview, thank you for this.

  • @MrGreatDane
    @MrGreatDane Жыл бұрын

    What a good honest talk to listen to!. They gave me a solid ground for reflections!. So thanks for sharing your thoughts on these very important topics!

  • @Darwini
    @Darwini Жыл бұрын

    Probably the most important conversation I've ever had the pleasure of being witness to

  • @Lindsaywakelinphoto
    @Lindsaywakelinphoto Жыл бұрын

    Your introduction and thankful message to Max is such a lovely start. I keep coming back because always you are so respectful and ask interesting questions and every now and again you show us a glimmer of your humanity and your humour which is just a bonus. Thank you Lex for continuing to create such fascinating content.

  • @tuscantony
    @tuscantony11 ай бұрын

    Awesome. Thought provoking. Thank you so much, both.

  • @simons1543
    @simons1543 Жыл бұрын

    I just love these conversations, so so illuminating...

  • @jasonmcghee1266
    @jasonmcghee1266 Жыл бұрын

    This is a gem of a podcast episode, a real treat. I am sending it to as many people as I think will appreciate it or need to hear it.

  • @ryzikx

    @ryzikx

    Жыл бұрын

    the other two with Max are just as good

  • @JamesTaylor-je6es
    @JamesTaylor-je6es Жыл бұрын

    What an incredible, heartfelt interview. Thank you both.

  • @pcrizz
    @pcrizz9 ай бұрын

    6 year pause you say? Wonderful! Glad to hear it!

  • @RouteOneTwoEight
    @RouteOneTwoEight Жыл бұрын

    Great episode as always Lex. Thanks!

  • @Drixidamus
    @Drixidamus Жыл бұрын

    This was a fantastic conversation. Thank you for all you do, Lex.

  • @warperone
    @warperone Жыл бұрын

    Max, what a fantastic authentic, compassionate and smart human being. A magnificent representation of what it means to be human. if we do get AGI I vote for him and Joscha Bach to represent human's defence and be our lead negotiators so we can co-exist and share this planet and universe in peace and collaboration with our new children and lifeforms.

  • @jeremyn4397

    @jeremyn4397

    Жыл бұрын

    For real, I love listening to Joscha Bach.

  • @Ottee2

    @Ottee2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeremyn4397 , Yes, it would be helpful if Joscha Bach could chime in, here.

  • @debbiehughes48
    @debbiehughes4811 ай бұрын

    This is my 3rd time listening to this podcast and I hear something I hadn’t heard each time. Thanks for this podcast! I think people need to be aware of what’s going on with AI. I want to be hopeful, but it is pretty scary!

  • @arghamaz

    @arghamaz

    5 ай бұрын

    Are u Irish 🇮🇪 or Scottish ancestry

  • @nkettani
    @nkettani Жыл бұрын

    These are the best 3 hours I’ve got to spend in my life. Inspiring learning disrupting

  • @frankwhite1816
    @frankwhite1816 Жыл бұрын

    Love Max! Another great one, Lex. You're on fire, brother! Thank you so much for this.

  • @AnneMcCrossan
    @AnneMcCrossan Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal episode, thanks Lex. This is a podcast that should be kept for all eternity and reviewed regularly to keep us on the right track.

  • @gulanhem9495

    @gulanhem9495

    Жыл бұрын

    lol long dead and buried before we have anything that is close to AGI.

  • @rights_are_god_given
    @rights_are_god_given Жыл бұрын

    Max is obviously a super good guy! What a pleasure to listen to.

  • @MrRickspag1
    @MrRickspag16 ай бұрын

    All you guys are killing thanks for all you do ! Each of you have helped me through some hard times .keep going .A true fan

  • @ivammagalhaes7155
    @ivammagalhaes7155 Жыл бұрын

    Such an eye opener! This podcast must be translated to as many languages as possible. Thanks for sharing, Lex.

  • @pedrolopes4778

    @pedrolopes4778

    Жыл бұрын

    No need to translate. We have AI. Boom!

  • @katehamilton7240

    @katehamilton7240

    Жыл бұрын

    For a counter viewpoint see Timnit Gebru and Emily Bender & Ragnar Fjelland on why AGI is a Transhumanist fantasy and cannot happen

  • @bearowen5480

    @bearowen5480

    11 ай бұрын

    Soon the content of this and all similar podcasts will be translated into all languages instantaneously by AI's large language model architecture machines. This is mind boggling stuff. Wake up humanity! Max and Lex are correct, we are at the threshold of an enormous change in the course of society's existence that is largely incomprehensible to those whom it will most affect, i.e. us!

  • @FaceFcuk
    @FaceFcuk Жыл бұрын

    Lex is a machine pumping out bangers 1 after another, epic G.

  • @zini85
    @zini85 Жыл бұрын

    Formidable Episode as always. Great great work

  • @adamblock2577
    @adamblock257711 ай бұрын

    Jeez. This conversation ended on high notes, thank god, because it was dark for a bit. Thank you Lex!

  • @marcrettew8284
    @marcrettew8284 Жыл бұрын

    Never go short form Lex!!! Your interviews are to good, to in depth, to varied, to funny, to thought provoking.

  • @shaan702

    @shaan702

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate to be this guy but…. too*

  • @benitofranklyn4237

    @benitofranklyn4237

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok please enlighten me, what part about this interview was thought provoking?

  • @AnneMcCrossan

    @AnneMcCrossan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@benitofranklyn4237 all of it!

  • @nirvana9130x

    @nirvana9130x

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@benitofranklyn4237 There were many, but these two particularly thought provoked me: 1. Is chat GBT4 conscious? How do you define consciousness? 2. Should AI development be put on hold? Will we eventually lose control if not?

  • @jordan13589
    @jordan13589 Жыл бұрын

    If I had a drink every time Max said Moloch, I’d be Bacchus.

  • @stanislavnikolskiy6122

    @stanislavnikolskiy6122

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @skane3109
    @skane31098 ай бұрын

    Lex, you are simply the best at what you do. Your ability to curate a guest list of the best minds of our time and provide a long, free form format for discussion is a gift to humanity. Max Tegmark, thank you for Life 3.0. It’s an important book and a great listen.

  • @MrMh722
    @MrMh722 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing podcast and I also now have a new mantra... 'Segui il corse, e lascia dir le gente - follow your own road, and let the people talk'. Thank you Max.

  • @TheRestorationContractor
    @TheRestorationContractor Жыл бұрын

    Lex! I have been waiting for this one (again) the way things are rolling out... I think you should have Max and Nick Bostrom on weekly lol thanks for your work

  • @leonstenutz6003

    @leonstenutz6003

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 yep ...

  • @simonnilsson5356

    @simonnilsson5356

    Жыл бұрын

    Does Bostrom alsso have Swedish background like Tegmark?

  • @leonstenutz6003

    @leonstenutz6003

    Жыл бұрын

    @@simonnilsson5356 I believe so -- although Max ismore American & Swedish.

  • @phoenixfreewalkeroreilly2212
    @phoenixfreewalkeroreilly2212 Жыл бұрын

    Dear Lex, great podcast! Watched just after listening to John Vervaeke AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take. Posted two days ago on UTube.

  • @vincentlinard9503
    @vincentlinard9503 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this broad talk on the matter and more importantly on human nature. So many important questions raised and open minding answers/comments. I would feel much more confident in the future of humanity if people like Max could be heard all over the world. Hope AI will help spreading the message. Thanks for the format of this video and the pace of it. One of these rare videos you want to see more than one time.

  • @NicoA47
    @NicoA47 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best interviews. And Lex' interviews set the bar already incredibly high. Would love to see a three-way discussion including Joscha Bach.

  • @Mastermindyoung14
    @Mastermindyoung14 Жыл бұрын

    Max is the reason I discovered you. I follow a few well-known physicists/astronomers and your episode 1 popped up in a KZread search of Max. Its been a pleasure to watch you develope and polish your character. You rock 🤘

  • @mandayaofalls

    @mandayaofalls

    Жыл бұрын

    P😊😊😊p😊😊😊😊😊

  • @tomross5514
    @tomross5514 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. Max, at this moment I'm more reassured by your caution than by your optimism.

  • @koljaverhage4066
    @koljaverhage4066 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know which paper by Dylan Hadfield-Menell Max was referencing to? Has it been published?

  • @jPup_
    @jPup_ Жыл бұрын

    Overwhelmingly thankful for the final leg of this conversation- truly saved the best for last. I really hope Max's words stay with the listeners, and resonate particularly with those involved in the development of this new paradigm. Consciousness is such an important piece of this puzzle.

  • @Nova-Rift
    @Nova-Rift Жыл бұрын

    “A lot of people have said for many years, that there will come a time when we will want to pause a little bit; that time is now.” - Max Tegmark I can’t imagine a better final quote for the history book of humans. If we survive, it will be forgotten, if we die, it will be forgotten.

  • @jonathanrider4417
    @jonathanrider4417 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this and all you do Lex! It helps me to be hopeful.

  • @JustDebz
    @JustDebz11 ай бұрын

    What a great point when he states “I don’t want to press a button to get to the top of the mountain.” I feel like this about my art and AI. Sadly, the ethical implications are already coming true with AI art and using Chat Gtp. The stakes are high in not using it because you want the art you create and manuscripts you write without ai to be seen, but with the oversaturated market now being created, your art and the things you write gets buried and is less likely to be seen. There’s no stopping this. Little by little, the rewards are removed from the things you enjoyed doing that now AI can do at the drop of a hat. The intrinsic value is there, but getting paid for the work you use to do that brought you deep satisfaction is now less likely.

  • @FredPauling
    @FredPauling Жыл бұрын

    Max is so REAL, so human, so articulate. This one hit me. It finally sank in. From now on I will be actively engaged and working the problem. Thank you for this conversation. Lex, please bring on people who have ideas for how to solve this

  • @normaquirolgico1257
    @normaquirolgico125711 ай бұрын

    In my ignorance re AI, this conversation with Max Tegman identifies with so many humankind relating to our humanity, spirituality and so on, as we see how we came to being. Thank you, Mr. Tegman, you inspire many.

  • @megadodonissan1818
    @megadodonissan1818 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this very important conversation.

  • @garydecad6233
    @garydecad6233 Жыл бұрын

    Max Tegmark always makes me optimistic about the future and this planet. He makes a positive impact for humanity.

  • @charlestheodorezerner2365
    @charlestheodorezerner2365 Жыл бұрын

    Fabulous interview. One of your best. And given your body of work, that is saying a lot.

  • @xeiroe_gaming
    @xeiroe_gaming Жыл бұрын

    max is one of my personal and intellectual heroes. thanks for this third visit

  • @NNokia-jz6jb
    @NNokia-jz6jb Жыл бұрын

    Max is a great and smart guy. Thanks for thia interview/podcast.

  • @FingersMulloyBG
    @FingersMulloyBG Жыл бұрын

    Reading his Life 3.0 book inspired me to seek a career in machine learning.

  • @juliekrizkova546

    @juliekrizkova546

    Жыл бұрын

    Reading his Mathematical universe book inspired me to study theoretical physics.

  • @mrtienphysics666

    @mrtienphysics666

    Жыл бұрын

    This guy is a deep thinker. I bought multiple copies of both his books: my mathematical universe and life 3.0

  • @victorkelante420

    @victorkelante420

    Жыл бұрын

    Watching him on this podcast inspired me to hit the bong once again without exhaling

  • @riccardoesclapon549

    @riccardoesclapon549

    Жыл бұрын

    @@victorkelante420 so inspirational, thank you for sharing 🙏

  • @conall5434

    @conall5434

    Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant book!

  • @seethroughlife1481
    @seethroughlife1481 Жыл бұрын

    Loving this so far, will listen to more tonight. The part about Max’s parents really hit home as I recently lost my father. It really does make you think deeply about your parents’ lives and your own future, among other things

  • @NPCHSN

    @NPCHSN

    Жыл бұрын

    How can someone be so arrogant to think we’re the only intelligent life in the entire universe?

  • @mikoaj7956

    @mikoaj7956

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@NPCHSN Maybe its humble? We've only seen one case of such inteligent life so far. We do not understand how it came about. Neither how it works. It seems arrogant with our knowledge to say universe is thrilling with life based on that example. There is Fermi Paradox, we have no evidence for other life and yet many assume it's all around the cosmos basing on one example we are next to zero in understanding.

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