MAU Eviction Divide - One on One with Isaac Ruto and Ledama Olekina(Part 1)
Isaac Ruto: The issue that is at stake at the moment is not protecting the forest- if there is anyone living inside the forest, then they should be removed!
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Hon ledama is one vocal leader always adding his voice where possible i like how he articulates issues he fits in the group of sakaja kilonzo Jr keep it up
Oledama is a good politician
when the people who had settled in the abardares were asked to leave they left with no much drama
Next time, argue with an actual map in place (history and present). Media should also stop playing fools. Get a map on the screen and all the survey documentation (history), so that we get the gist of this story
@Gatheri1
6 жыл бұрын
Edwin Sanya my views too.argyments withot maps and interviewer's knowledge makes it useless
I now understand mau things are political...
Ledama your great masai hero still moving with that spirit may God help you
Ukifuata sana, Jeff, utakuta kuna mtu alikula kitu hapo to let pple settle there. Corruption kila mahali
@elizabethmutindi9895
6 жыл бұрын
Mary Mutua ss
My senator your very correct bcz the forest isn't sb resource
Unbalanced debate. Ledama is too bright for Rutto to debate him.
@naomychebet8055
6 жыл бұрын
hahaaa
@naomychebet8055
6 жыл бұрын
true
@richardouma9039
6 жыл бұрын
Mutuma Dickson hahaha
Save the Mau. Kenya is already 70% Arid and Semi Arid. HOWEVER, if the government was really serious, it could recover corruption proceeds and use that to resettle the populace. Then, no one would complain.
This ladema is truly a kid in the block when it comes to discussing issues of great importance coz how do you discuss about marital matters n ranches when the topic is all about mau forest purukenge kabisa
@djiboutidjibouti6570
4 жыл бұрын
@Hillary marital issue isnt so important?
@hillarynyamwange6156
4 жыл бұрын
@@djiboutidjibouti6570 Dats as per your level of understanding braza
There comes a time when we must negate this politicians the power to shape our countries destiny and especially when environmental issues are at stake. We have politicized the mau conservation efforts far too long . Just like we forcefully evicted residents who had occupied the langata road reserve in kibera let encroachers leave MAU and lets be mindful of the generations to come.
I now agree this issue is politically instigated.
Ledama olekina is a real warrior
I stand with Ledama Facts. Mau forest is politically messed-up.
Jeff you should have organised a big screen so that we can get a feel of the real issue on the ground. The senator has now resorted to explaining this on a piece of paper which the viewers are not able to see.Even Ruto is using citizen's cushion to explain the topography.Its kind of hilarious.WORD OF THE DAY -CUTLINE
This entire discussion makes no sense. Jeff should have done more research and broken down the facts with a map first. Very poor journalism.
This Ledama dude is making a whole lot of sense. For once an opposition politician standing for the truth and will not relent. Keep up the fight Senator....These are the kind of young leaders Kenya is yearning for....
Ledama is so wise!! Ruto caress less about what's happening!!
Ths senetor is very right, and so much argument reveals something. Corruption everywhere in Kenya.
Whether the issue is politicized or for the welfare of the environment, i love how they call each other "my dear friend", "my dear brother" unlike us Kenyans who go calling each other nasty words in the name of ethical politics. . .
Take mau people give them land owned by mzee jomo kenyatta families and preserve our forest. Simple .
@emmanuelwanyama8439
6 жыл бұрын
i have edited for you to understand more..
@emmanuelwanyama8439
6 жыл бұрын
we have pple in Kenya who have more than 1000 acres , can we investigate them if possible? Why Kenyans are suffering in an tighty place like mau forest and yet Kenyatta's families have got much land ?
@emmanuelwanyama8439
6 жыл бұрын
my friend , the government has power to do so without the constitution ..how many times the government have gone against the kenyan constitution? Its posible . Is it fair someone with 100s acres and others having a point or living in a rental houses and yet we are kenyans ?
@emmanuelwanyama8439
6 жыл бұрын
Am not against to kenyatta family but am giving them as an example to those who owns a large amount of land.
@cm-ub5bn
6 жыл бұрын
that land was stolen not bought. its not private. should be repossessed.
Ledama should be a pastor.he has nice voice
@isaqlid4289
6 жыл бұрын
hahha...
Come with documents to proof your points otherwise it looks like a shouting game while it is a very serious issue.
Ledama is very smart for Rutto..Ruto is very intimidated by this young senator
I respect this elders
Ledama olekina is right
Former Govn, Let me ask you...Assuming, i am your neighbour, we have a boader/cut line and you want to plant your crops...will you plant past the cut line, then you say...i have decided to plant past the cut line bcoz you had more seedlings and you dont want them go a waste...then later come claim that's your portion...
Olekina,you could just take that evidence to DCI, otherwise don't fool us.
Hhahaa Ledama asked these same people to vote for him during the last elections.This must be dishonest of Ledama.
@jaredabuga4908
6 жыл бұрын
Justin Kipkoech true
@lekutafestus6541
6 жыл бұрын
He didn't campaign here
Please don't create hatred you are God fearing people if you start using forces, those big men's will never be hurted, our people kindly use your commonsense.
Fireeeeeeee!!!
Rutto is disapointing. SAD. Get those crooks out of the forest now!!
@prudencechebet9068
6 жыл бұрын
Henry Sitati crooks.. you say. Those are people with families, with kids, with basic needs.
@henrysitati9748
6 жыл бұрын
There are people in prison with families/kids/basic needs. You do not grab public land (and cry foul). They ended up in the forest illegally (even if they were duped) and have no legal reason to remain there.
Indeed its petty when it comes to share resources (ourselves). Well its here, the inevitable 7000 year old transitional prophetic seismic event in the rift. Only IN ONE, WITH ONE & THROUGH ONE shall we endure.
Stop politicising Mau issue time and again. People you evicted are surviving under abject poverty and impoverishment. On the other hand, others are facing rough times of perennial droughts especially the Masai. Its, simple, these people have nowhere to go, compensate them! That will solve the whole problem.
It's all about tribal, nothing like protecting the forest
@prudencechebet9068
6 жыл бұрын
Jared Abuga true
Jeff,you should do your research and challenge the panelists with some facts.Not letting them spout their own ‘facts’ back and forth.
@makokhakhama5365
4 жыл бұрын
politics vs environment
Kenya na corruption and politicizing everything I think mother nature needs to be taken care of.watu warudi walikoishi kabla waje kuishi msitu wa mau.politics kando this isn't the first eviction in kenya.
@robertoppenheimer8976
4 жыл бұрын
Kikuyus to Central?
Ledama, Rutto schooled you
@chepkemoijoyline358
6 жыл бұрын
true
@lakhibhangra5864
4 жыл бұрын
Some students turn out to cleverer than the teacher. ..especially if the teacher is dumb.
Aaaah!
your people....your people....so the Mau issue has become very tribal and politicals
Haaahaaa!!! Wanzueni. Too true
Kalenjins don't care about the forest because they don't have severe droughts. Maasais on the other hand have suffered seriously. The maasais are the ones being evicted but the Kalenjins have not yet been touched yet they're the loudest. Mtajua hamjui.
@GibsonNgetich
6 жыл бұрын
Do you know about Maasais and Kalenjins in Narok and Bomet counties and their settlement patterns or your are just making an ignorant comment. Let me give you an assignment: why are the floods hitting Narok-Mai Mahiu areas unlike before? Find answers and come debate.
Bw. Rutto is rather resigned today IMHO. Where's the fiery Rutto of Aug 2017! This Ledama gentleman is quite articulate. I relish how he strives to bring context to the subject. NO, History CANNOT be wished away Bw. Rutto.
Next time please have a map and other relevant documentations to put your points across.
@kipngenoweldon6637
6 жыл бұрын
Ledama is olekinah
Ledama stop the tribal tirade. Some remarks are inciting. Thats dangerous in todays Kenya
Ruto,man you are wise
@lakhibhangra5864
4 жыл бұрын
Wise you say..how come he lost to a lady..
Hii Kenya shida
after part one yote bdo hatujapata wat the problem is
Ledama is a new kid on block😂😂😂 Isaac Ruto your brain gona pain you oh😃😃
@chepkemoijoyline358
6 жыл бұрын
haha
@naomitheloyalgal3788
6 жыл бұрын
amesema kin in the block not kid... nimesikia vizuri
@kennedyrono1914
6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha listen again to be specific enda mpaka 15.23. Hope that helps you.
ruto using the wit charm there to avoid facts
Isaac teach that youngman the way.the ranches is all way to greedy genes of the friend in debate the kinaman
Ledama for president 2022 ni sasa
@robertoppenheimer8976
4 жыл бұрын
Dead puppet
i thought it was a serious issue bt it seems like a show off jokes after jokes .sad to maa.
Ledama weigh your wars well next time😂😂
Mr Ruto👍👍👍
Ohhh, think hard wewe Prudence, don b silly, not Chebet.
Who told you to sell your group ranches???
Please cause this is gvmnt talking and as long as you will be compensated why argue, just move
Oh what a shame i was eager to hear an intellectual discussion but what's coming from rutos mouth is nothing helpful
Ladema and his tribal leadership skill will forever lose
@walterkavinguha2999
6 жыл бұрын
Environment has no excuse stop encroaching... Our forest
My friend, you are selling charcoal😀🤣😂😂🤣😂
Ledama Is Always Right
@WYCLIFFECHEPKWONY
6 жыл бұрын
sad all they have is envy and jealousy
I AM COUTING ON YOUR VOICE TO STOP THIS NONSENSE. HII NI UJINGA YA HUYU MSEE TAFADHALI MUEDUCATE NA UPELEKE KALE KAMOTION YA KAENDE NYUMBANI, NYUMBANI NYUMBANI
Kipsigis people have land in kericho which is being occupied by British land owners who are growing profitable tea but which doesn't benefit the kipsigis of kericho one single bit. Thus Murkomen and arap mashamba should take their people back to kericho county and invade those British owned farms and settle their kipsigis there. Failure to that I see the hippos and the crocodiles of the Mara getting fat very soon.
@kipkoechbrian9904
3 жыл бұрын
After reading this, i understand that i was wasting my bundles, please say something which is positive towards our brothers and sisters in Mau. I don't believe that i will one day wake up and force people out of their homes,
No compensation is an international policy to refrain the people from settling into forests and natural habitat
Uyu jamaa anasema cutline hakuna kwani hawa watu waliona nini wacha xako
Huyu ledama ako na ujinfa mwingi
ѕυcн a мaтυre converѕaтιon aм ιмpreѕѕed aт нow тнey argue тнeιr ιѕѕυeѕ
Ruto is hot
What is this Jeff. who is factual now? mnatuchanganya sisi kama viewers
Jeff failed terribly.he lacks a map or previous history to guide debate with facts.terrible
Here Gov Isaac Ruto is looking and sounding very ignorant!!
Kalenjins in the comment section are proof that vichwa za wakalejin ni kabati ya meno tuu.
@denniscollins1447
4 жыл бұрын
yaah and you won't do anything about it
Isaack is wise
@mediatrickslihavi6614
6 жыл бұрын
frankline maiyo ati wise lol!
@franklinemaiyo1987
6 жыл бұрын
Wisest even.
@oghetokevin8746
6 жыл бұрын
Hehe ati wise..bora uhai
Ledama ako na mdomo sana
Isaac ruto is more intelligent than senator
@erastusnjue9534
4 жыл бұрын
ken sangale m'kale comments
Ledama is too bright for Rutto
maasais are tribal
@kay5243
6 жыл бұрын
I really agree with you,,
@oghetokevin8746
6 жыл бұрын
Lol kales are worse
@victorolomunyak7054
6 жыл бұрын
Tribalism is a norm in Kenya
@lagatkipz6699
6 жыл бұрын
True
Kuomba aid.
Isaac is not admitting the facts