i love how everyone’s taken it upon themselves to continue rules lawyering in the comment section. the true rule lawyer spirit!! (￣^￣)ゞ

@Carbadonia

3 жыл бұрын

Since most of my group are new to D&D comparatively, it usually falls on me, the DM, and sometimes our currently Ranger (formerly played Barbarian, rip Bhakyl) but typically only for monsters in his case since like me he loves to read up on D&D monsters. Helps keep our gameplay going and teaching our greener party members the game, although we are all prone to making mistakes now and again, we can't memorize the entire book by heart and then interpret those rules in a given situation after all haha

@commandercaptain4664

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, rules lawyering is not a mere comment, but a decree, and therefore above comment section classification.

@GerardInandan

3 жыл бұрын

Truly! Hahahahahahaha

@thief05

2 жыл бұрын

I love how you stole this content. tf is wrong with you

@darklightwhatever6970

2 жыл бұрын

just curious...i thought pit fiend's could be harmed by silvered weapons?

Love the backstory that Brennan wrote the prompt and was awestruck that Mercer noticed an unintentional mistake

@paradoxxis8612

2 жыл бұрын

He did not. Matt was wrong.

@kannonball5789

Жыл бұрын

@@paradoxxis8612 bingo, a pit fiend is affected by silvered weapons

@EpicNerdsWithCameras

Жыл бұрын

@@kannonball5789 So you could say that...Brennan was wrong about being wrong?

@kaizenkltr

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicNerdsWithCameras the house always wins

@kaizenkltr

Жыл бұрын

@@scottalleman4564 the ball is rolling up

Matt Mercer’s explanation was a well needed catharsis after listening to that nightmare of a D&D scenario

@Varakanok

3 жыл бұрын

Feels like a Reddit post, doesn't it?

@dr.zespert

3 жыл бұрын

i feel that

@nicklewis876

3 жыл бұрын

I started nervous blinking listening to it. Never had that happen before.

@PrettyGuardian

3 жыл бұрын

Here it goes, I sped, I followed too closely, I ran a stop sign, I almost hit a chevy, I sped some more, I failed to yield at a crosswalk, I sped some more, I changed lanes in the intersection, I changed lanes without signaling while running a red light, and speeding!

@behunter215

3 жыл бұрын

It was very soothing ❤

Anyone who isn't familiar with Critical Role should know that even Matt Mercer, the man who just laid down the D&D law, still finds room for rule breaking flair in his games. To him, the number one rule that trumps the rest entirely is the Rule of Fun

@MayHugger

Жыл бұрын

Also that the DM dictates how everything works, their rules outrank whatever any other book might say.

@romanterry7215

Жыл бұрын

@@MayHugger Rule 0 is the best rule

@rory8182

Жыл бұрын

@@MayHugger you cannot question god they have the wifi password

@Fellkun

Жыл бұрын

Yep Matt is a gentle rule lawyer he can make it strictly by the books but he add fun

@animorte9790

Жыл бұрын

"Umm... Sure, I'll allow it."

I've watched this over and over because as pointed out, "there is something very satisfying about watching someone just be very good at something". Truth.

@gitadine

8 ай бұрын

I'm your 666th like - that's satisfying for me as well 😂

Trapp: "How many errors did you find, Matt?" Matt: "Twenty" The guy who drew the comic and put 18 errors in: ',:|

@dndforbeginners

3 жыл бұрын

right off the batt I found 20 and they werent all the same as matts

@davidp5823

3 жыл бұрын

@@dndforbeginners Well what are they?

@ezngen9182

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidp5823 Someone broke the game harder than Matt, there is another

@DonNinja05

2 жыл бұрын

EDIT (22.05.2022) Y'ALL, Hold Monster works on any creature. The spell's description says "Choose a creature that you can see within range." so it would work on the Goliath. ALSO, anything not explicitly stated in the text, isn't relevant. I know that Light Domain clerics can cast fireball, however Omerek isn't stated to be a light domain cleric. ​@@davidp5823 Let's see what I can find with a thorough search: Panel 1: 1. Demilich is just a head, art is wrong Panel 2: 2. Reactions have to be triggered on other creatures' turns, unless otherwise stated 3. Attacks of opportunity happen when leaving opponent's threatening spaces, not when entering them. 4. Silvered axe does no damage to a pit fiend | EDIT: Pit fiends take damage from silvered non-magical weapons, so this point is moot EDIT 26. Dodge is not a reaction Panel 3: 5. Rolling initiative now makes no sense as combat has already started 6. Pit fiend can not cast hold monster and attack since they both take up an action Panel 4: 7. Gruumsh One-Eye is not God of the Forge 8. Fireball is not a 2nd level spell 9. Fireball is not a Cleric spell 10. Pit fiends have immunity to fire damage, meaning the pit fiend would not be destroyed Panel 5: 11. Benign Transposition switches 2 creatures' spaces, it does not make someone go invisible 12. Drinking a potion and casting Benign Transposition both take up an action EDIT 27. Invisibility is a touch spell, Calliope is not touching Uma Panel 6: 13. Howl attack is not a single creature attack, but an area of effect action 14. Demiliches have truesight, so it would not have missed Una 15. Legendary actions can only be taken after other creature's turns 16. Vile Curse is a wisdom save, not a charisma save 17. A Demlich can only use one legendary action at a time 18. A Demilich can only fly 15 ft with a legendary action (given that it has the base 30 ft fly speed) EDIT 28. A Demilich only has 3 legendary actions per round of combat, Vile Curse costs 3 actions, so it would not be able to use Vile Curse and flight legendary actions during the same round. Panel 7: 19. Jump is not a skill, but part of movement 20. Nat 30 is impossible 21. Sneak attack is not possible 22. Turn Undead is not a rogue ability 23. Turn Undead is an action 24. Turn Undead is not powerful enough to destroy a Demilich 25. Demiliches are immune to effects that turn undead This is all I've found, there might be more I've missed.

@theinsanegamer1024

2 жыл бұрын

@@DonNinja05 I think I've heard a light cleric can use fireball? But the dwarf seems to be a "forge domain" cleric, which can't use it.

The best part of Matt's flex in this is that there isn't even a hint of ego. He's the picture of true humility.

@hahmann

3 жыл бұрын

Strangely enough he has the demeanor of a martial artist.

@thebishopofme

3 жыл бұрын

He's just like "oh, hey and this is wrong too, but not a big deal" such a cool dude

@dolofonosesostrefis

3 жыл бұрын

He literally finds something the question didn't account for and doesn't comment on it, love him

@seanthomas5303

2 жыл бұрын

It comes across that way because it comes from a place of love of the game and affection for others rather than a desire to humiliate, dominate, or puff himself up.

@cassiemoyles4177

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanthomas5303 so well put! :)

I love how he did the legendary thing of getting more than 100% on a test because he found something wrong with the test

@paradoxxis8612

2 жыл бұрын

Except he didn't. He was wrong about it.

@TheFiddleFaddle

Ай бұрын

​@@paradoxxis8612 Which makes me happy. Even the best DMs can get it wrong, which is why Matt always keeps the books handy when he's DMing.

@nigh_anxiety

8 күн бұрын

Pit Fiends can in fact be harmed by Silvered weapons. Balor's can only be harmed my magical weapons. He also missed that the Pit Fiend can't cast Hold Monster and attack on the same turn.

@VexWerewolf

8 күн бұрын

@@nigh_anxiety I don't care

Me: **still learning D&D rules** Also me: **nods at everything Matt says as if I know exactly what he's saying**

@whitestoneandy797

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@Lord_Vertice

2 жыл бұрын

i feel that

@danielrosenthal5616

2 жыл бұрын

lolol preach

@09876432155123467890

Жыл бұрын

Even if he was partially wrong... for example silver weapons do work on pit fiends.

@Vee_9001

Жыл бұрын

And here I was getting excited that I knew that drinking a potion is an action and you can’t get attacks of opportunity like that.

Really shows how nice he is with his friends. Less lawyering because he just wants everyone to have a good time. A lot more cocking his head, laughing, and just going "... Sure." on CR.

@Puffleman24

3 жыл бұрын

I’m convinced that half the skill of being a good DM is knowing how to use the rules to make things fun but the other half is knowing _when_ to use the rules because sometimes it’s more interesting to let some things slide

@Vanq17

3 жыл бұрын

@@Puffleman24 It literally says so on the first page of the Players Handbook, the rules are there to help guide the story, not restrict it. Sometimes the rule of cool is all that is needed.

@Puffleman24

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vanq17 Exactly! There are some rules that you have to keep (distance, movement, AC etc) but I like to jiggle enemy HP every now and again if it gives the players a cool moment :P

@leahbeah1585

3 жыл бұрын

@@Puffleman24 exactly, you have to know what the rules are before you break them

@acetraineraster5171

3 жыл бұрын

Matt Mercer iconic CR quotes "....Sure." "I'll allow it." "You can certainly try."

This is like the Galadriel gift to Gimli. "We asked for 18 errors; matt found 20"

@bryanwoods3373

3 жыл бұрын

But finding more is the exact thing the show is about. It was the one thing I was expecting watching the clip.

@cristiaolson7327

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@zrampagegaming2674

3 жыл бұрын

The pit fiend shouldn't have been able to cast hold person and attack in the same turn either I believe

@commandercaptain4664

3 жыл бұрын

ALL SHALL LOVE HIM AND DESPAAAHHHHHH!

@commandercaptain4664

3 жыл бұрын

@@zrampagegaming2674 Not to mention it cast Hold Monster on a person, which is the wrong spell.

I love that there was a moment when my 3 favorite DMs of all time (Matt, Murph, Brennan) were all in the same room

@zanderboettcher3115

10 ай бұрын

sameee, I heard Brennan off screen and I got so happy

I jotted down mistakes I saw, and while I missed a lot that Matt got, I feel proud to have spotted these ones that he didn't: - Pit fiend would not be able to do its multiattack after using Hold Monster on the same turn - Benign Transposition doesn't do that (it's used to make creatures swap places) - Invisibility is a Touch spell, so either the picture is inaccurate or the spell couldn't have been used since the caster and affected character weren't making contact - Demiliches (and regular liches) have Truesight, so the Invisibility wouldn't have mattered regardless of what it used - Only one legendary action can be used at a time I missed like half the ones Matt got, so I'm definitely not one-upping him. And then a couple others I found after the fact and am just noting because I find it interesting: Assuming the demilich is meant to be interpreted as having a demilich's stat block and it's just the drawing that is incorrect, the Flight legendary action only lets them fly up to half its flying speed, meaning it could only go 15ft at most; it also wouldn't be able to fly at all because Vile Curse uses 3 legendary actions, so it would be all out until the start of its next turn. (If the demilich IS meant to be interpreted as a lich, this entire part is wrong because none of the things the "demilich" did are available to liches.) I'm definitely not claiming to have already known this much since I absolutely looked it up after, but I figured it was worth noting.

@cadencehouse539

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I know this is an old comment, but I also noticed something. Forge domain clerics do not get the fireball spell, as far as I know

@BoomGoesMaximus

Жыл бұрын

@@cadencehouse539 Matt actually already covered that!

@Thenonymous1

Жыл бұрын

I have a question and possible issue with one of Matt's spotted errors: he makes a point about the pitfiend being immune to non-magical weapons, but I have been under the assumption that a silvered weapon overcomes non-magical resistance and, by extention, immunity.

@BoomGoesMaximus

Жыл бұрын

@@Thenonymous1 It doesn't always work that way, RAW. Some creatures specifically say "...that aren't silvered" at the end of weapon resistances and immunities; if it doesn't say that, silvered weapons don't bypass it. That said, Pit Fiends ARE one of the creatures where it specifically says "...that aren't silvered", so silvering WOULD bypass its resistance (it's only resistant, not immune). So you're right on that part! Makes sense now that they said they hadn't written that down for the question's answers.

@pronkster9550

Жыл бұрын

Correct me if im wrong, but id like to add onto this comment (also great work finding all these mistakes) isnt it also a mistake that the pit fiend casts "hold monster" on the goliath (humanoid) since the goliath isnt a monster?

I find some peace of mind knowing that even though we may not get a Brennan Matt face off we still have Brennan fact checking Matt on DnD related questions behind the scenes.

@titanium6139

3 жыл бұрын

Oh if you want some Matt and Brennan action, the dimension 20 series bloodkeep has Matt as a player and Brennan as a DM

@alphahunter4791

3 жыл бұрын

@@titanium6139 watched it upon release, I need more to get my fix though

@aster1760

3 жыл бұрын

@@alphahunter4791 they also did quite a few face off questionnaire games with eachother and a few talk show stuff togeather if you want more, they were both very fun to watch

@Lixhewettcreative

3 жыл бұрын

@@titanium6139 pirates of leviathan does as well! (bonus marisha, too, though the entire cast is fantastic)

@titanium6139

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lixhewettcreative Ah I haven’t gotten to see that yet! Just got Dropout though

Saying gruumsh one eye is a dwarven god of the forge is such an insult, random dwarves in a different universe wrote it down in the book of grudges.

@belowthebargaming9315

3 жыл бұрын

Dwarfs* ;)

@ultrabigfella

3 жыл бұрын

@@belowthebargaming9315 does it really matter?

@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039

3 жыл бұрын

@@ultrabigfella for Warhammer, YES

@GirishManjunathMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@ultrabigfella the english word dwarf has a plural dwarfs. The Tolkeinian race of dwarf has the plural dwarves.

@Max3110

3 жыл бұрын

@@GirishManjunathMusic other way round NVM I will delete myself. Should double check before writing. Really. Sry

I felt so much horror hearing that round of combat. It would've been fun to see the contestants reacting as it was read off--the looks on their faces would've been HILARIOUS.

After watching Critical Role for only a year, I'm really proud of myself for noticing a few of those mistakes/errors/falsehoods. Matt is a wise master.

@CatchThesePaws

2 жыл бұрын

Omg me too, I only got three.. but after watching Matt explain everything I did recognize some! The majority of it went completely over my head though lmao

@joelrobinson5457

9 ай бұрын

He himself has said he is not infallible, even he makes mistakes, and that's OK, there's a lot to keep track of, and so long as you and your players are happy, it honestly dosen't matter

"Oh look, Matt Mercer missed this" -People after analyzing for 2 hours when MM had 1min

@duranpredur1098

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think people are dissing Matt, just expanding on the game and tracking down every error that inevitably escaped.

@joeyfromschool

3 жыл бұрын

Yeh nerdy pedantry is the name of the game, Mercer killed it regardless

@danielluna9213

3 жыл бұрын

@Evert van Dalen Hold monster does affect humanoids. what are you talking about?

@Guillotine1123

3 жыл бұрын

@Evert van Dalen Yes Pit fiend has the Multiattack action allowing 4 attacks with each of its weapons

@Guillotine1123

3 жыл бұрын

@Evert van Dalen oh yeah i some how missed that entire last part of your question lol

I don't think anyone's mentioned this but invisibility has a range of touch and the picture depicts them casting it at range.

@BenKingEagles

3 жыл бұрын

Nevermind the fact that Benign Transposition, which Matt missed, is NOT used to cast invisibility, it's used to swap 2 character positions.

@Mega2chan

3 жыл бұрын

also a simple one that he missed is that the pit fiend cast hold monster on a human, so it shouldn’t have worked like in the picture

@marc0s158

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mega2chan haha! "Um actually" All creatures in dungeons and dragons are considered monsters, thus making the spell hold monster, able to target any creature, humans included. Hold person targets solely humanoids. The selectivity is the difference. Common misconception

@Ynxzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@slowner295 sorry bud, unfortunately they’re right. Everything is considered a creature in the eyes of D&D

@DarkCurow

3 жыл бұрын

@@slowner295 Hold Monster Choose a creature that you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or be Paralyzed for the Duration. This spell has no Effect on Undead. At the end of each of its turns, the target can make another Wisdom saving throw. On a success, the spell ends on the target. At Higher Levels: When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 6th level or higher, you can target on additional creature for each slot level above 5th. The creatures must be within 30 feet of each other when you target them. Hold Monster is just the higher level and better version of Hold Person.

Hearing Matt roll all of that off as second nature is almost its own form of ASMR.

Remember everyone, Matt is a fantastic DM! That means he didn't miss any of the mistakes, he just ignored some of them for the sake of the rule of cool, lol

@killaved4262

2 жыл бұрын

Or not. Being a good dm has nothing to do with rules, a dm probably has less experience leveling up than a player and a player wouldnt know a lot of stuff a dm will. Plus he had one minute while the comments section had a lot of time.

@loyalty5207

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry Jimmy, I realized the joke even if the other two didn't.

@otbaht

2 жыл бұрын

fun trumps rules especially since rule one is something like "the dm can change the rules" iirc

@thewinter_

2 жыл бұрын

@@otbaht rule 0: the dm is always right, even if the dm's decision doesn't line up with rules as written, no exceptions.

@Agent1W

Жыл бұрын

@@thewinter_ As cops would tell the public in RL, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you have immunity from the consequences. ALL actions have consequences, so it matters how(and even WHY) the DM is "always" "right". A DM that makes a bonehead decision or a spate of bonehead decisions "because the DM is already right" and does not repent afterwards can enjoy being the DM of a 0-player group in a time not that long from the moment. "Always right" takes a backseat to SATISFYING the players. So Rule -1: Satisfy the players.

Listening to the mistake-ridden combat description: 12d12 psychic damage Listening to Matt list off all of the mistakes: _Power Word: Heal_

@maryhales4595

3 жыл бұрын

One hundred percent.

@kamiitto7574

3 жыл бұрын

That is so accurate

@Ramsey276one

2 жыл бұрын

"How many?" 20 Ooh... 16.. [There were actually *18* ] XD

@tumbleweed1552

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Ramsey276one Actually, the strange thing is that Mercer didn't have time to list even more. I remember there being up to 5 other mistakes if you really give it whole level scrutiny. Including the pitt fiend casting hold person.

@KanuckStreams

2 жыл бұрын

YEEES

There's something so fun about rules lawyering in a friendly context.

@alantremonti1381

2 жыл бұрын

Tess gets it.

@Mysteri0usChannel

2 жыл бұрын

It's like the difference between parody and satire.

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mysteri0usChannel How so?

@Mysteri0usChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Parodies come from a place of admiration, satire is actually meant to criticize to the point of insult.

@ralek592

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda like the programmer competition thing where they program.. fast? I remember something about C# or C++

As a Conjuration Wizard I would just like to point out that benign transposition is a class feature which doesn’t allow you to cast an invisibility spell on another creature.

the silver axe would actually deal damage since pit fiends specify "Nonmagical Attacks That Aren't Silvered"

@feltrix334

2 жыл бұрын

Also, pit fiends don't have immunity to nonmagical, nonsilvered damage, so even a mundane axe would still hurt it.

@videogamecoverss

2 жыл бұрын

@@feltrix334 Damage Resistance Cold; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing From Nonmagical Attacks That Aren't Silvered Axe would be slashing

@tempname3308

2 жыл бұрын

@VideoGameCovers resistance is half damage. So, would still deal partial damage. Hence, “would still take (some) damage”.. you know? The original comment from Matt was about immunity to non-magical damage (which is more of a specialized niche than “standard devil” resistances/immunities). So, two minor errors: pit fiends aren’t *immune* to ANY weapon (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing) damage; and even though they do resist mundane/non-magic weapon damage, they do NOT resist Silvered weapon damage. The person who set up the problem did get that bit correct. Intentionally? That I couldn’t tell you.

@syloentertainment1100

2 жыл бұрын

@@videogamecoverss immunity vs resistance, take half damage vs no damge

@romxxii

2 жыл бұрын

@@tempname3308 Brennan wrote the question, and he's the DM for Dimension 20.

Can't believe I missed fireball not being a cleric spell because I play a light cleric x)

@DarkAuraLord

3 жыл бұрын

when I read that panel, I thought it was odd, but I would believe a cleric of a forge god would have fire ball, so I didn't check.

@felixrogers1295

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAuraLord Actually only Light Clerics get fireball, Forge Clerics do not

@WardNightstone

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAuraLord yea honnestly there are times when do to either domain or diety it makes sense for a charicter to have a spell i also wouldn't have questioned a cleric of the god of the forge (Kord i belive?) having Heat metal

@Mittens_McG

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so used to pathfinder. So many Healing clerics use Sarenrae which happens to give them fireball. A cleric casting fireball seemed totally normal to me.

@chaosblackstone7286

3 жыл бұрын

@@WardNightstone That would totally make sense. For whatever it's worth the dwarven god of the forge is Moradin (since they said the dwarven god in the question), although the are several other gods a forge domain cleric could worship. Also I think Kord is normally tempest domain, if I'm remembering right he's the Storm Lord. sorry for the over complicated response but hey it's Um Actually after all.

Somewhere in CR Campaign 2: Marisha: "Can i get advantage because of people screaming my name?" Matt (with a soft voice): "No..."

@andrewh.9937

3 жыл бұрын

Was that the drinking contest?

@tofton1977

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewh.9937 yup!

@AndrewJW

3 жыл бұрын

Should've asked for inspiration instead of advantage lol

Every few months, I come back to this video, thinking "Oh, I know more about D&D now, I wonder how much more I will understand", and I am always blown away by how much I still miss

This made me realize just how much of a trivia master a DM must be.

Matt is also the most scrutinized DM running D&D as well due to the popularity of Critical Role. He's going to naturally have an encyclopedic understanding of the rules based on back-seat DMs nitpicking his games.

@fenixmeaney6170

3 жыл бұрын

And YEARS of homegame, and plenty more before

@FerreusVir

3 жыл бұрын

Guy has also been playing DnD for longer than some, if not most, of his audience have been alive.

@rockzyk1291

3 жыл бұрын

It's frustrating that people do that to him without understanding or accepting that: A. It is also a show for entertainment B. Sometimes things are more fun/cool if you skirt the rules a tiny bit. Not EVERYTHING has to be by the books.

@Chronostra

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockzyk1291 also, isn't critical role is homebrew-y game also?

@rockzyk1291

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chronostra I believe so, but I don't know all of the specifics of it.

The true skill is knowing all the rules AND knowing when to hand wave them. Bless MM.

@Iced333

Жыл бұрын

I've helped a few friends DM their first games and i always let them know that they are free to change any rule but DnD is a tower of systems built on rules and if you don't know anything about construction you should be very careful when knocking out random walls. Once you know more about structural engineering you can know what walls to take out and when to do it.

@akulatraxus9153

Жыл бұрын

@@Iced333 Wise words, well spoken. Or typed... wahtever.

Rules Prosecutor: "I count 28 rule violations!" Rules Defense Attorney: "Rule 0 supercedes all other rules, the only true rule violation is not accepting your DM's ruling."

I'm on a Matt Mercer binge, the man is glorious to watch/listen to.

They also forgot that benign transpositions isn't invisibility but swapping places and that vile curse is 3 LR so it wouldn't even be able to use flight on the end of the next turn

@lincalmighty

3 жыл бұрын

Casting hold monster is an action, so the pit fiend wouldn't get to make its multi-attack that also costs an action.

@antonionunez3759

3 жыл бұрын

Good catch.

@toribiogubert7729

3 жыл бұрын

@@lincalmighty on the pit fiend attacks, he use claws and mace.

@LightningBoltSpark

3 жыл бұрын

@@toribiogubert7729 It uses Bite, Claw, Mace and Tail as part of its Multiattack Action.

@IAmDaedem

3 жыл бұрын

@@toribiogubert7729 yes and multi-attacking is an action, just like casting a spell. You can't do both.

I think I found a mistake that nobody else has pointed out yet: Una is a halfling (speed of 25 feet) and therefore wouldn't be able to "clear the 30 feet to the demilich" (unless she used her bonus action to dash, which she can do as a rogue, but the panel describes her using a different bonus action, although an impossible one). Feel free to educate me if this is wrong.

@Luthies

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's redundant as Jump is not a skill, and jumping is based on your str score instead of movement afaik.

@alexholder1646

3 жыл бұрын

While your strength score does determine how far you can jump, the movement you travel during the jump is still limited by your movement speed so if their Max move speed is 25ft a 30ft jump wouldn’t be possible in a single turn.

@jackwhitney1968

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct, however they also would not be able to clear it as jump distance depends on your strength score, a foot for each point in strength. where 30 is pretty much impossible. They also would not be able to land next to a flying lich.

@BrievaryZowan

3 жыл бұрын

Matt's statement of Una not getting sneak attack is also incorrect, as Una was made Invisible by Calliope. Rogues in Invisibility do get sneak attack damage when attacking from invisibility.

@jackwhitney1968

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrievaryZowan Not against a Lich with truesight they don't

i come back every once and a while to rewatch this it always gives me so much joy

I have to tell my sister that this guy is a very well known voice actor so that she understands why I'm freaking out about him just also being really really well versed at D&D

He also missed the fact that the pit fiend couldn't do hold monster and those attacks on the same turn I think (I didn't hear him say it)

@birkbrene1972

3 жыл бұрын

Also hold monster doesn't work on people.

@dddawson

3 жыл бұрын

@@birkbrene1972 Not correct. Hold Person is limited to humanoids, but Hold Monster is the better version that works on all creatures, which does include humanoids.

@PointsofData

3 жыл бұрын

@@dddawson well hot damn I learned something today

@thememegang5395

3 жыл бұрын

@@birkbrene1972 you are probably thinking of hold beast which only effects animals, while hold monster works on everyone

@pedrofdez-ordonez

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this

I just love, in the heat of the moment with a time limit. They expected him to find 18 and he found 20. Of course, we all have the benefit of sitting back and looking at things for a longer period of time. But Matt, holy shit, just straight up goes through them like a machine. lol

The captioning on this is real good, top notch stuff and props to whomever did it. It's appreciated.

i loved watching him read off all the wrong things in the pages. i would of loved at the end him say " but in the end if everyone had fun playing, then there was 0 mistakes" i feel like alot more people need that in this game :)

@bryanchandler3486

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigwinz that turns more then to a question of what you find fun about DnD, something different people will have different answers for.

@LuisTeixeiraofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigwinz you must be fun to play with =) joking aside it's different for everybody and if the DM says it's possible in the context of the narrative then by god it is possible!

@KiraNightV

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigwinz I feel the same way. Ignoring a rule isn't fun. Using a loophole or using the rules to do something crazy on the other hand is really fun for me.

@Stathio

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly? While playing with the rules can be fun and create opportunities for strategy etc., if you're playing too hard with them, then it's weird that you'd choose to play a tabletop RPG in the first place? Like if the rules matter to you that much, why not play a traditional strategy board game or a videogame instead? The rules are hard-coded into those things, while the unique thing about a tabletop RPG is the ability to forego them in the name of fun and narrative. It's just such a backwards kinda perspective to approach this activity from if the rules are all you care about.

@ralek592

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stathio But the realism

Tha mark of a good DM, knows all the rules to break them properly.

Rewatching this clip, the simultaneous leg cross from Amy and Matt is *just* perfect.

I get so confused about the logistics of D&D so whenever Matt talks about it on this show I’m just sitting here with math equations rapidly flying by my head thinking “Yeah… I know some of these words.”

@flyingturret208thecannon5

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, the rules of D&D don’t really matter, as it doesn’t encompass every game, such as running a game with 12th level spells.

Matt did a fantastic job. In addition: 1. The Pit Fiend also cast a spell with a time of Action, as well as used its multiattack 2. Benign Transposition does not allow the Wizard to cast a spell, it's based on switching positions. 3. Benign Transposition is an Action, which makes Calliope as having taken 3 actions (In addition to Invisibility and Potion drinking) 4. The Demilich used two legendary actions in one turn (Vile Curse, and Movement) 5. The Demilich's movement is half its movespeed, which is 15 feet , not 30 (I missed this one until I checked afterwards) 6. Una's invisibility has disappeared before she makes her attack. (This would not give her Sneak Attack, as Vile Curse is imposing disadvantage on her attack roll)

@galion1991

3 жыл бұрын

Also: Dodge is not a reaction.

@TaggedByTim

3 жыл бұрын

Small nitpick, it's a lich not a demi lich. They say in the video a demi lich is just the skull of a lich.

@DataumCats

3 жыл бұрын

@@TaggedByTim Yea but its doing demilich things all the time. You could farm the art mistake for a bunch of mistakes by saying it's actually a lich, but if it does no lich things and does do a lot of demilich things, better to say it's a demilich that's represented incorrectly

@DataumCats

3 жыл бұрын

on 6: Invisibility doesn't matter at any point. Both a demilich and pit fiend have true sight.

@DoctorLazers

3 жыл бұрын

There's More! - Silver actually does damage Pit Fiends. - Even if Fireball COULD damage a Pit Fiend, the maximum possible amount of damage from this spell would not kill the Pit Fiend. It has 300 Hit Points. - Even if the Pit Fiend could use two legendary actions in one round, one of them cannot be Vile Curse as it uses up all of a Pit Fiend's available Legendary actions. - Demilich have Truesight and thus would not be affected by the Invisibility, regardless of the attack it used. - The Demilich is immune to nonmagical weapon attacks, so would not be damaged by the sneak attack. - Character level is never stated, but assuming a 20th level rogue, the max damage she could deal with a single Sneak Attack is 71 The Demilich has 80 hit points. - Demilich have Turn Immunity. - Turn Undead does not destroy Undead. The related ability, Destroy Undead does that. - The Demilich has Legendary Resistance and thus cannot be destroyed in this instance, because it would use LR on the saving throw.

Can we just have Matt do this every once in a while? That was just amazingly fun to watch!

I'm shocked honestly that Matt didn't catch the fact the Pitt Fiend cannot use an action to cast Hold Monster and then use its action a second time to do a multiattack in the same turn.

@VivaLaDnDLogs

2 жыл бұрын

He only had a minute, he circled 20 things.

@CloudburnGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Also wouldn't Hold Monster not work on a goliath, shouldn't the Pit Fiend be using Hold Person?

@TheDrexxus

2 жыл бұрын

@@CloudburnGaming Hold Monster will work on anything. It has no creature-type restrictions. Hold Person would ONLY work on humanoids. So the name can be a bit misleading. For players, its better to use Hold Person on humanoid targets because its a lower level spell slot to use than Hold Monster. However, Pit Fiends can cast Hold Monster 3 times per day and don't have access to Hold Person at all, so it doesn't matter to them. It would still work on the Goliath.

@CloudburnGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDrexxus aight, thanks for the clarification

@KanuckStreams

2 жыл бұрын

I also caught that, but I wasn't on a game show under any pressure.

This is why he's so good, he knows all the rules, he even found an extra mistake in the comic that wasn't even intended

@paradoxxis8612

Жыл бұрын

No, he didn't. Devils are not immune to nonmagical weapons.

@gabrielbjornursidae

2 ай бұрын

He doesn't know all the rules, as evident when Liam was casting slow and he thought that you couldn't designate targets.

"gruumsh, dwavern god of the forge" Dwarves: *convulses*

@Jaydee-wd7wr

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest that was the only one I caught, I know more about the lore than the rules.

The master has spoken Edit: I am surprised how much I learned about the rules just by watching CR as someone who has not read the rule books yet.

@celesteelka

3 жыл бұрын

Same here! I'm about to dm my first campaign and I'm nervous about my knowledge of the rules, but after this I'm pretty confident! I found most of the mistakes.

@matthewevans5486

3 жыл бұрын

@@celesteelka try not to worry so much about the rules for the first few sessions. You can worry about rules once you're more comfortable DMing

@eleanorcooke7136

3 жыл бұрын

@@celesteelka also don't be scared to fudge things. I had my party come into combat with a dragon and as everyone was having faun but very low on health, I rolled two Nat 20s in a row which would've outright killed them. It's all about having fun. If you're having fun and they're having fun, then don't be afraid to not completely follow the rules.

@bmalloy0

3 жыл бұрын

@@celesteelka As others have said, feel comfortable playing the rules a little loose. At the end of the day, it's a game... you and your players want to have fun

@videogamecoverss

3 жыл бұрын

@@celesteelka Also don't forget, what happens ultimately comes down to the DM, The most important thing is for your players to have fun.

I just love that Brian, another great DM, witness the Majesty and Knowledge of Matthew Mercer.

This might be my favorite moment of Um, Actually so far. Super cathartic to watch as a DM.

Akshtschuyally, pit fiend is only immuned to fire and poison. Resistances to cold, bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damages don't apply when pit fiend is hit with silvered weapons

@Redman-2490

3 жыл бұрын

Akshtschuyally, the pit fiend is resistant to NON MAGICAL weapons which is what the silvered axe is.

@endlessnoodle3056

3 жыл бұрын

@@Redman-2490 AKKSCHUYALYU, Monster Manual page 77. "Damage Resistances cold; bludgeoning; piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks NOT MADE WITH SILVERED WEAPONS". Silvered weapons count as magical against pretty much all demons.

@JohnTux_

3 жыл бұрын

This bothered me so I came to check if there is a valiant person pointing this out. Thank you!

@Spacemongerr

3 жыл бұрын

@@endlessnoodle3056 yesButPitFiendsAreDevilsNotDemons

@endlessnoodle3056

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spacemongerr why you had to do me like that?

I'm only just halfway through the panels and I've already taken 10d10 psychic damage. Help. 😭

@ChargeQM

3 жыл бұрын

You recover it if you get a high enough Spot or Insight roll

@eleanorcooke7136

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChargeQM you'd need a Nat 30 for that

host: "all right, matt. what did you find?" matt: "20 mistakes, one of which your question did not account for." everyone else: O-o

The level of excitement on Matt's face when the rules are being explained is just something else.

Thank god someone clipped this

i still think brennan lee mulligan would make an awesome new CR guest, and they are gonna start a new campaign soon, so it'd be cool to see him, matt already played with brennan as a DM

@burntrosechick

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just yes.

@quincybriley4113

3 жыл бұрын

I'm hopeful he'll show up on campaign 3 as a guest

@Elykmai

3 жыл бұрын

murph as well would be fun considering he is also a good Dm and player

@Pixel11235

3 жыл бұрын

Wait new campaign soon? But I'm not done with the second one.

@quincybriley4113

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pixel11235 you've got 5 days. Thursday will likely be the epilogue to the campaign.

I watched this video last year when I was midway through campaign 1 of Critical Role, now I’m nearly halfway through campaign 2 and I’m so impressed by how many more I spotted!

As I continue playing D&D and having a better understanding of the rules, this continues to keep coming up as a suggested video and I think I've done better in each rewatch.

Matt actually is wrong about the silver weapon thing, pit fiends have resistance to non magical weapons that are not silvered (as with most devils) so in this case it would do normal damage. But even if it was not a silvered weapon it would still do half damage as resistance is not immunity. :)

@JarLoz

3 жыл бұрын

"Damage Resistances cold; bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks that aren't silvered" Indeed.

@kylebeardsley6200

3 жыл бұрын

That actually ended up being one of their fan corrections that Mike read in a later episode.

@devilsadvocate6381

3 жыл бұрын

Yes because as we all know the classic weakness of a Devil is Silver. Can't Bellerive Matt was so moronic as to forget such a crucial detail...

@andrewsad1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just happy I knew one thing that Matt Mercer didn't Helps distract me from the half dozen things he knew that I didn't

@LeBigsou

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I house rule silver weapons effective against a lot less stuff: Werepeople? Sure, Devils? Depend on CR, say what you want but a Pit Fiend should be able to tank a silvered mace better than a Nupperibo or a Barbed Devil and not every magical weapon works the same in my games. It's insane to me that Zariel or Orcus are affected evenly by a Holy Avenger and a +1 dagger. It's also a metter of balance for me. I'd much prefer my players to have a harder time against a devil or a demon the first time with shitty magic items and later cutting into multiples thanks to better abilities and gear. Sure you can simply up the monster hp but I think it's more satisfying for a player to go from : "your attacks bounce off the fiend skin, dealing pitful damage, it seems the power of the +1 greatsword isn't enough to properly handle this fight" to : " the Soul Calibur cuts deep in the flesh of the accursed, its radiant power unstoppable even in front of a demigod" but that's just me.

"And as always, you get.. one point!" Aww man!

Can tell how much Matt loves being a DM his dedication to reading and rereading and keeping up with rule changes is awesome to watch. I do love seeing when he gets one overed by his cast members so he uses those instances to get his own players back.

Loved Brennan in the corner presumably frantically checking over the rules

the accidental synchronized leg cross at 0:40 was wonderful lol

I feel like there were a few others that Matt didn't even mention. Like, how would the Pitt Fiend use both Hold Monster and its multiattack in the same turn? And how would the wizard use both Benign Transposition and cast Invisibility when they're both actions?

@paradoxxis8612

3 жыл бұрын

He missed a few that people have already pointed out in other comments. He also called the silvered weapon one wrong - pit fiends' weapon resistance is negated by silvered weapons.

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

@@paradoxxis8612 he could be mixed up with 3e or pathfinder as demons and devils had different ways to bypass their dr. Silver for one and cold iron for the other.

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

@@pozatat if we are being super generous, you can technically use benign transposition to cast invisibility if you package the invisibility spell in a contingency spell.

You know it's good when the explanation both impresses and makes you want to scream NEEEERRRSDDDS

after coming back to this clip after a year playing dnd; this is impressive now I know what he is talking about

"Fireball is not a cleric spell" - Light Domain sends their regards.

@dragonstryk7280

3 жыл бұрын

God of the Forge doesn't give the Light domain

@kyleweir689

3 жыл бұрын

It's also still not a cleric spell, it's on an expanded spell list via the domain

@duranpredur1098

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyleweir689 But the fact that "Fireball is not a cleric spell" is not enough to say it was a mistake still stands.

@kyleweir689

3 жыл бұрын

@@duranpredur1098 they specified that any information like race or subclass would be given in full detail as to clear that up. So fireball is not a cleric spell.

@SpitfiretheCat16

3 жыл бұрын

If the Cleric was Light Domain it would have been specified. He's functionally domain-less, so he for all intents and purposes can only access the base Cleric list.

matt finding a rule that they didnt even spot is hillarious

@HenriqueErzinger

3 жыл бұрын

He was wrong about it, as many people have commented, but still...

@Avengedtenfold

Жыл бұрын

Matt was likely thinking about AD&D, where a lot of monsters (including the Pit Fiend) are immune to mundane weapons and require a certain amount of enhancement on the weapon hurting it. In the case of Pit Fiends, it's +3.

I love the split second where you see that wild look in Matt’s eye when it’s his turn! (1:58)

This came up randomly on my phone while at work. I was just hearing it in the background, and I’ve never played D&D, but I the natural 30 error still caught my attention when he was first describing the scenario.

Doesn’t a lich’s phalactory have to be destroyed for it to be able to die

@adamkaris

3 жыл бұрын

Nah it can still die, but the phylactery lets it reform a body for its soul.

@brotherofAnubus

3 жыл бұрын

The physical form can be destroyed but the soul would go back to the phylactery. Perma-death requires the phylactery to be destroyed.

@fogiestooth4607

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a Demilich tho

@GirishManjunathMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@fogiestooth4607 demilich still has a phtlactery im pretty sure. Isn't that one of the ways to defeat the Tomb of Horrors is to find the phylactery and destroy it so the demilich, I forget the name, is cleansed or something?

@fogiestooth4607

3 жыл бұрын

@@GirishManjunathMusic Yeh, you right. Just doesn't state it in the statblock.

King of the nerds

Matt is just so amazing

Me, watching Matt nerd out about his favorite game: Look how happy he is!

As a fledgling DM, who doesn’t calculate everything perfectly, this helped me

um actually, Pit Fiends are still affected normally by silvered weapons

Omg this was the most satisfying d&d game show game ever. The world needs more rules lawyer games.

I love how as soon as Matt hears the challenge he's just sitting there, giddy

Matt going, "Uh, next panel," basically showing that he's really the one running the show.

@andrewl9191

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like this clip was heavily edited, and he was just talking about his train of thought and not directing the show so much, but yeah. Boss.

It's my weirdest achievement in life that I was able to keep up with Matt on this one.

Coming back to say this is kinda my favorite thing ever. Matt Mercer is a fucking titan

Murph's humble "He's good" bounces around in my brain like a dvd screensaver logo

So I missed some, like the demilich being depicted wrong (marked those I didn't get until after the fact with a *, and iffy ones with a ~), but there were more than Matt found: 1. *Demilich is not full body 2. Dodge is not a reaction 3. Devil does not get an attack of opportunity 4. ~If using the dodge ACTION, would not be able to also attack --- Pit fiends are not resistant to silver weapons, Matt called this wrong. 5. Pit Fiend should already have rolled initiative 6. If the Pit fiend casts a spell, it cannot also attack 7. Gruumsh is not God of the Forge 8. Fireball is not second level 9. Fireball is not a cleric spell (but light clerics COULD have it, and there's no TECHNICAL reason why Omerek couldn't be a light cleric, though it would be odd worshiping Gruumsh OR the God of the Forge if you were) 10. Would almost certainly not destroy the pit fiend, who has around 300 health, and is immune to fire (there are ways to get around the immunity, but even so, fireball does like 48 damage max). 11. Benign Transposition does not allow casting of a spell, it switches people's positions 12. If you DID cast Invisibility, or use Benign Transposition, you would not be able to also drink a potion --- Why is she drinking a potion? She hasn't taken damage? 13. Howl is not affected by Invisibility 14. *Vile Curse is not a Charisma Save 15. *Vile Curse needs to target "one creature it can see", Una is Invisible 16. Demilich can't use Legendary Actions during ITS turn 17. Demilich can't use two Legendary Actions at once 18. *Vile Curse actually costs 3 actions, so it would also have already used all it's points 19. ~There's not much "final" about the legendary action. Legendary creatures actually get 3, so either it has one left (in the case that it used "a" legendary action on Vile Curse), or it already used it's last one, so "final" doesn't seem right. 20. Jump is not a Skill 21. Nat 30 isn't possible 22. There's no way Una can jump that high (height is based off of Strength Modifier, and you would need an excessively high one (maybe even impossibly high, without the Jump spell) to clear 30 feet) 23. Sneak Attack maybe shouldn't trigger. Though this requires some explanation a. Una should still be Invisible, so she has Advantage from Invisibility, which WOULD grant Sneak Attack. b. BUT, since she failed her save vs. Vile Curse, she has Disadvantage on all attacks, canceling the Advantage from Invisibility, and negating Sneak Attack c. BUT, since Vile Curse couldn't target her, maybe she's unaffected, and would have Advantage from Sneak Attack? d. BUT, if the Howl worked (since it shouldn't miss because of Invisibility), Una should be either at 0 hit points, or Frightened, which would grant Disadvantage, and so cancel Sneak Attack anyway (Though this would add another mistake: Frightened creatures cannot approach the source of their fear, so Una can't get close to attack it in the first place) 24. Turn Undead isn't a bonus action 25. Turn Undead is a Cleric feature, not a rogue feature 26. At low levels of Cleric (0 is low), and for high levels of enemy, Turn Undead only Turns, it does not Destroy. This may count as 2 (Una doesn't have the "Destroy Undead" Feature, AND the Demilich is too high level for it) Anything I missed?

@spikey832

3 жыл бұрын

I have maybe a few o7 Firstly, just wanted to let you know, Demiliches have truesight, which allows it to see invisible creatures, so Una would have been an eligible target for Vile Curse if she was in range, and in addition (depending on how you interpret truesight vs invisibility), Una would not have had advantage for sneak attack from being invisible, but you already got the point about Vile Curse giving her disadvantage anyway! -Demiliches have Turn Immunity, so would be immune to turn undead anyway regardless of level. -Demiliches flight LA allow it to move up to half its fly speed, so it would only be able to fly 15 ft. (30/2) instead of the 30 ft. it flew. Some iffy ones now which are really pedantic ^^' -We don't know the fighter level, but the others have benign transposition and fireball, so likely 5th+, the fighter could have extra attack, and they made the point to name every attack the pit fiend made but only mention the fighter making one attack. -In the art, the cleric is shown being prone on the ground after getting hit by the pit fiend, but none of the fiend's attack knock a target prone -The cleric is depicted as holding a book, which you could argue is not a holy symbol (amulet, emblem or reliquary), so would not fulfil the material component of fireball. -In the same vein, the wizard is shown casting invisibility at range without the material component That's all the other ones I got :)

@Ramschat

3 жыл бұрын

Una is a halfling with 25 feet movement, which also limits maximum jump distance to 25 feet regardless of strength

@evannibbe9375

3 жыл бұрын

Fireball is also on the Forge Cleric spell list.

@ryonalionthunder

3 жыл бұрын

15. *Vile Curse needs to target "one creature it can see", Una is Invisible Demilich has TrueSight:120, it would be able to see her even when invisible.

@davidainsworth6685

3 жыл бұрын

Howl targets all creatures within 30 feet of the Demilich that can hear it, so the entire party is effected, as is the Pit Fiend.

i still think he should have gotten 2 since he found a mistake that the fact-checkers missed

@neerGdyahS

3 жыл бұрын

It was incorrect though. I'm not too sure why Brennan backed him on it. Easy to forget the specifics of those though since non magical weapons and silver weapons rarely come up at Pit Fiend level.

@neerGdyahS

3 жыл бұрын

I will cut them the slack though, I mostly know this because I have way too much time on my hands, where they spend their time working and worldbuilding and having lives.

@g80gzt

3 жыл бұрын

It's only Resistant to nonmagic BPS attacks with weapons that aren't silvered. It was silvered, so it bypasses its resistance. Also, it was a Resistance and not an Immunity.

@g80gzt

3 жыл бұрын

@@neerGdyahS But you could literally just look at the relevant statblock information while creating the 'everything is wrong' comic.

@neerGdyahS

3 жыл бұрын

@@g80gzt Plus what Devil is IMMUNE to nonmagic? Reasons I actually made comments about it instead of just letting it be.

I could watch this every day. Matt RULES !!

4:00 my man laughing in the distance LOL

2:38 im suprised nobody pointed out that the pit fiend shouldn't be able to use hold monster and its multi attack in the same turn. And the pit fiend is only ressistent to non magical weapons that arent silvered so the axe was fine

@Forslimjims

3 жыл бұрын

Plus it's resistant not immune so either way attacking with an axe would be fine if not optimal.

@futuza

3 жыл бұрын

I'm always careful to correct something like this because it's the DMs monster, not a player character so it might not necessarily have the same limits like being able to cast a spell and do multi-attack all at once. However, they did say don't assume any info is missing do you're probably safe to assume that's wrong as well.

@jasonandrews1770

3 жыл бұрын

@@futuza yeah i double checked the book after. What i stated is correct

@futuza

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonandrews1770 That's fine I wasn't disagreeing with you, but you kinda missed my point - monsters the DM uses are under no obligation to follow the Monster Manual stat blocks and assuming it is exactly like the monster manual, as a player, is usually a horrible mistake (except in cases like this video where we're told everything is standard 5E). It isn't against the rules for the DM to create custom monsters or deviate from the monster manual. In fact that's kind of expected. Hence why I would hesitate to call that out in a real game.

@jasonandrews1770

3 жыл бұрын

@@futuza no i got your point and i know you arnt disagreeing with me. If that were to happen in game id prob ask the dungeon master if he modded the monster because thats a signifficant change. Not something minor like it having an axe instad of a mace

oh man the action rolled so awesome from one panel to the next! I see no mistakes! sounds like a great game!

Whats even better is Matt knowing all the rules but he is also a huge fan of the rule of cool

Just watched and off the bat, only one I can see he missed is that benign transposition does not make someone invisible... it trades places with them. Matt's a god damn legend.

This is frankly the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen

Murph: I think we all learnt something today Matt: Did we?

holy moly, that video was 4 minutes long, it was so cool it only felt like 1

I wonder how hard this must have been for Brennan to write that whole scenario down and how he felt about Matt catching things even he missed

Fun fact: "attack of opportunity" is the 3.5e terminology, while the 5e version is referred to as an "opportunity attack".

@MrSeals1000

3 жыл бұрын

Ngl 3.5 rolls off the tongue so much better. 5e sounds like it's what the action is, and 3.5e sounds like what actually *doing* the action would be called

I'm going to be "that guy" and add a few more mistakes: dodging is an action, not a reaction, benign transposition and invisibility are two separate spells, so you can't "use one" to cast another, invisibility has the range of touch so the picture is wrong, vile curse can only be used against creatures you can *see* (but demilichs have truesight so nevermind), but vile curse also takes up all 3 legendary actions so there's not enough to also fly, also also a demilich can only move 15 feet (half its movement speed) with its legendary action, you actually can roll athletics to jump higher than you normally could in a round, but it would still cost 30 feet of movement and halflings only have 25 unless they dash.

@adrenalineunlimited3376

2 жыл бұрын

Also benign transposition is a feature, not a spell

@mateobarrett6829

2 жыл бұрын

Also Pit Fiends have 4 attacks, not 3. I don't think anyone caught that

@tylerkeating1699

2 жыл бұрын

Additionally, a creature can only use one of its legendary actions per player turn I'm pretty sure, so even if vile curse was not all 3 actions the demilich still could not use its legendary action to move.

@blacksnow7106

2 жыл бұрын

@@mateobarrett6829 isn't **technically** a monster can decide to use fewer attacks?

@thenagazai

2 жыл бұрын

@@mateobarrett6829 and he also uses a spell, and even if it was due to legendary actions, even the 4 attacks, it's his turn so he can't do it right now, so he would only do 3 attacks or a spell, and more after his turn ends.

One that he missed: Vile Curse can only target creatures the Demilich can *see*, and thus does not effect the invisible character.

@zherron42

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, but demiliches have true sight. Invisibility is of no help to the hapless rogue.

@zherron42

2 жыл бұрын

In fact, pit fiends have true sight, too. So even if the wizard could have cast invisibility, it would have been an absolutely wasted spell slot.

@EDoyl

2 жыл бұрын

I think they breezed past the Sneak Attack. Una was invisible, so she normally *would* get Sneak Attack. Demiliches have true sight, and Vile Curse gives disadvantage, so either of those would be a reason why not, but you'd have to know one of those things to justify calling it a mistake.

Wow. That was amazing.