who are the mathematics and why are they mocking the interview

@the823rd5

7 ай бұрын

lol...

@javify18

7 ай бұрын

lmao

@geoffairbourniawbor2873

7 ай бұрын

😅😅😅

@Connor-zz8zf

6 ай бұрын

Looooool fk off. I dont do maths ot anything else cos im stupid dont know how I got here but glad I did because your comment cracked me up mate

@flaminmongrel6955

6 ай бұрын

hahaha I feel like only someone in the field of mathematics or physics could make such a joke

nightmare blunt rotation

@sigma9025

3 ай бұрын

Whys it always nightmare blunt rotation but not dream blunt rotation

@7jason

2 ай бұрын

@@sigma9025respectfully, just look at them

Loved the interview!

Good interview! I think she has a good chance. As for the whiteboard, zoom offers a much better one with lower latency.

I love this channel reminds me of Olympiads and those beautiful challenging math problems

This was a really helpful video, thank you. Please could you do an example interview with a stats and mechanics question?

@Josama0214

7 ай бұрын

It's a Math Interview they aren't going to ask Statistics or Mechanics Questions💀

@henru364

7 ай бұрын

@@Josama0214 Just done a stats course at uni, it’s heavily maths based

@colonelarmfeldt8572

6 ай бұрын

@@bentwonie8287 They technically could, but statistics and mechanics are smaller focuses in the undergraduate maths degree. The aim of the interview is to test your overall thinking, rather than how well you remember niche topics. If you were taking the masters course in maths (MASt Mathematics), then they'd be more focused on asking questions regarding specific areas (pure, statistics, applied or theoretical physics), depending on your degree focus.

@Josama0214

6 ай бұрын

@@henru364 Yea but that doesn't really mean anything.

@TheMightyBharj

5 ай бұрын

@@Josama0214In case you still haven’t understood maths yet, most A level syllabuses cover three parts within maths; Pure, Mech and Stats. So Mechanics and Stats are part of Maths, and can be tested in an interview, like it was in my case

The prospective student is really strong, in my opinion. She will have a fun time studying maths :)

@letsgolesbians9617

Ай бұрын

I’m about 75% sure I spoke to her at an open day and she’s already a student at Cambridge maths! She’s just “posing” as a prospective student for the sale of this video

Surprisingly All questions asked, were from computer science engineering, design and analysis of algorithms, asymptotic functions analysis chapter.

Many commenters well versed in mathematics seem unable to grasp the difference between a maths exam and a maths interview.

@goktopaliptiplaticsonpotat3356

5 ай бұрын

what do you mean by this

@Hell_nahiris

Ай бұрын

@@goktopaliptiplaticsonpotat3356 people expect the maths questions at interviews to be the same thing as maths exam questions, meaning they think its going to be extremely hard. the questions given at interviews like the one above seem relatively easy, however the difference between a exam and an interview is one tests your ability to do well in an exam while the other sees if the prestigious teachers at big unis would enjoy teaching you as a student, and if you can pick up material easily and efficiently

@goktopaliptiplaticsonpotat3356

16 күн бұрын

@@Hell_nahiris oh yeah I had an oxford interview a few months ago and it was slightly harder than this video but easier than later questions on an exam. the kind of thing any applicant could do by themselves with a bit of time but not easy to process straight away. I also found that the purpose of an interview works both ways, I decided I didn't want to go there anymore due to the way they carried out the interview

@Hell_nahiris

15 күн бұрын

@@goktopaliptiplaticsonpotat3356 wait but did u get the offer tho?

@goktopaliptiplaticsonpotat3356

14 күн бұрын

@@Hell_nahiris yeah I did, but I hated how the interview went and that's meant to be similar to how they run the tutorials

I think Amy's argument for why log(x) -> inf was better than the interviewers' gradient argument, which doesn't hold in general

@nol2521

6 ай бұрын

yea the derivative of 1/x is always negative, does not mean 1/x diverges to negative infinity as x approaches infinity so a bit of a fallacy there

@blisz2718

6 ай бұрын

Whatever her argument, he would have possibly argued the opposite.

@atomgutan8064

6 ай бұрын

Yeah you can do y=-1/x then y'=1/x^2 and 1/x^2 is always positive when talking about real numbers. So the function's derivative is always positive when x is positive but the function approaches 0. lim(x->inf)(-1/x) = 0.

@j.s.42822

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, the interviewer's gradient argument will only work if the limit of the definite integral of the derivative (assuming it's non-negative) as the upper threshold tends to infinity is infinite... which is just equivalent to saying that the limit of the function (assumed differentiable) is infinite.

@MathematicsatCambridge

6 ай бұрын

An argument based on bounds and/or comparing functions would indeed have been good, but it could have taken a while. In this short example of interview questions the aim was to explore the question “For what values of m there are zero, one or two intersections between ln(x) and mx?”. It is often the case that an interviewer might choose not to pursue a line of inquiry and move on with the question. In this video this has happened - in different ways - with both questions.

I haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about. Haven’t done maths for 21 years! 😂

Indeed a positive gradient here is necessary but not sufficient for a function to tend to positive infinity. Proving that ln(x) tends to infinity as x tends to infinity might take a while, and in this short example of interview questions the aim was to explore the question “For what values of m there are zero, one or two intersections between ln(x) and mx?”. It is often the case that an interviewer might choose not to pursue a line of inquiry and move on with the question. In this video it has happened - in different ways - with both questions.

How can you argue that just because the derivative is > 0 the function tends to infinity? Isn't the derivative of the sigmoid always positive as well and it just tends to 1?

@MathematicsatCambridge

6 ай бұрын

Indeed a positive gradient is not sufficient for a function to tend to positive infinity. Proving that ln(x) tends to infinity as x tends to infinity might take a while. In this case, the interviewer chose to make the candidate feel at ease and move on, since in this short example the aim was to explore the question “For what values of m there are zero, one or two intersections between ln(x) and mx?”.

I'm so thankful I never have to do thia kind of maths ever in daily life after being gaslit in secondary school being told 'you won't always be able to use a calculator and you'll need to use proper maths'

Why am i Here?

@hywel4605

5 ай бұрын

I know . I can't stand maths

wrotoeshaw has come a long way

I was watching people falling down stairs. What am I doing here

@AlexeiMotoRin

4 ай бұрын

that's how people become math students = broken people :)

Number of times y = ax intersects y = ln(x) depends on a as follows: Case 1: 'a' is negative. In such a case, y = ax will intersect ln(x) exactly once between x = 0 and x = 1, where the value ln(x) is equal to ax. Case 2: 'a' is zero. In such a case, y = ax is constant function y = 0 and intersects y = ln(x) at x = 1. Hence, it intersects y = ln(x) only once. Case 3: 'a' is positive. In such a case, the curve y = ax may never intersect y = ln(x) given 'a' is larger than a specific value, and may intersect y = ln(x) twice if 'a' is smaller than that specific value. That specific value of 'a' occurs when y = ax touches y = ln(x) at exactly one point. For the touching case, d/dx(ln(x)) = d/dx(ax) at x = x0 => 1/x0 = a; Since (x0,y0) lies on both y = ax and y = ln(x) y0 = ln(x0) = ax0 = 1 => x0 = e and a = 1/e Hence, if a is greater than 1/e the two curves never intersect; and if a less than 1/e the two curves intersect twice. And if a = 1/e, the two curves intersect only once. Hence, the number of point of intersection is as follows: a 1 0 2 a = 1/e => 1 a > 1/e => 0

Amy is the person I would like to sit next to during a math exam 🧐

Was she a student coming out of hs and applying to an undergraduate program or a higher level like graduate?

If I were marking a student who said that a function tends to infinity because its derivative is always positive, as Dr Spivack suggested, that would be worth 0 marks (in light of all such functions that don't tend to infinity).

@user-mx7ku7zi9p

6 ай бұрын

Can you give an example of such a function?

@eliaromano1480

6 ай бұрын

C-exp(-x) for any real constant C for example... it tends to C as x approaches inf... and the first derivative is always positive

@MathematicsatCambridge

6 ай бұрын

Indeed a positive gradient is not sufficient for a function to tend to positive infinity. Proving that ln(x) tends to infinity as x tends to infinity might take a while. In this case, the interviewer chose to make the candidate feel at ease and move on, since in this short example the aim was to explore the question “For what values of m there are zero, one or two intersections between ln(x) and mx?”.

@luciusrex

6 ай бұрын

@@MathematicsatCambridge wholesome cambridge uni ❤❤

@oooBASTIooo

6 ай бұрын

@@MathematicsatCambridge Everybody makes mistakes, no reason to pretend that there was some deep pedagogic thought process behind it...

Taking two times logarithm of base 2, we are comparing the quantities: 2^n and n*log_2(100) + log_2(log_2(100)). It is obvious that the first grows much faster.

This logs not leaving me alone even now😅😅

could i ask; would this be considered a "successful interview" would this applicant be offered a place just off this interview performance? not including anything else?

@thomaslindsay1607

7 ай бұрын

I am just a student - but I though Q2 was much stronger than Q1. Looks borderline in my opinion

@alexandersanchez9138

7 ай бұрын

I think it’s fairly doubtful. After all, a “typical” applicant (even that reaches the interview stage) is not accepted (I think).

@oooBASTIooo

6 ай бұрын

I'm teaching maths at a university and I think this is definitely a successful interview. Keep in mind that the girl just finished high school. She applied her knowledge quickly and goal-oriented, was fast to correct her mistakes when they were pointed out and was able to come up with her own solutions to the problems posed, which is probably the most important part of mathematics.

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

6 ай бұрын

thanks so much for the response, appreciate the insight @@oooBASTIooo

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

5 ай бұрын

thats wrong, dont spread misinformation.@@alexandersanchez9138

How is possible to evaluate if a person is capable of Cambridge studies from just one question of this kind? In my opinion if a student replies correctly to this question then I could not be sure to accept him/her. Even if a student fails to answer this question it would be a bad indication but I would not reject at one, I would need to ask more questions.

@Hennal_

6 ай бұрын

There are usually two interviews. Additionally, the main filter for admissions are the STEP entrance exams, which is after the interviews, and not the interviews themselves Of course, some completely capable people do get rejected after their interview (due to lack of information), but thats just how it goes

@jackhnatejko8830

6 ай бұрын

It's not really about the question + answer, but about problem solving and process of thought

@patrickchampion8179

5 ай бұрын

​@jackhnatejko8830 I don't know about Cambridge but certainly at Oxford there's also the fact that the general setup of the interview is very similar to much of the day to day teaching. Admittedly in a tutorial you'll have done the work beforehand so it's more about going through a problem than tackling it new, but the sort of skills and approaches needed are quite similar

Why did this video summon some of the most annoying people on the planet in the comments 😭

14:10 why does having a gradient that's always positive mean it tends to infinity? e.g. y=-1/x has a positive gradient whenever x>0 but it tends to 0

@samuelmoss2480

7 ай бұрын

It doesn’t. I think a better way to see it is that lnx = y implies x = e^y and if x goes to infinity y must therefore go to infinity ( as e >1).

@conkeydong2095

7 ай бұрын

@@samuelmoss2480 Yeah that seems like a much better way, might also be worth mentioning that e^x is a continuous strictly increasing function so if e^y = infinity, then y = infinity

@ankursardar4707

7 ай бұрын

positive gradient depicts increment rather than decrement. for Amy's case since she had the log graph, lets say you start it with x= 1, then you keep on plotting the graph with considerations of gradient. so since already the function had the value of 0 at x= 1, she got that incresing nature. however, in your case, your function even from x= 1 starts from -1 but it does increases to 0. thats the main answer. here in your case, your graph never crosses the x axis so you reach only 0. in her case, it crossed and thats the main point. i believe Euler's approximation method might put some insight here as well.

@robmartin4657

7 ай бұрын

@@ankursardar4707 do you mean if it crosses the axis and has a positive gradient it has to go to infinity? because that's also not true

@ankursardar4707

7 ай бұрын

@@robmartin4657 what I mean is try to look for the increasing or decreasing nature with the help of the gradient. I know gradient alone is not enough that's why I suggested an idea from Euler's approximation.

why would they interview students for mathematics? is is for prefential admission to a specific program?

@yeehaw4881

5 ай бұрын

cambridge has interviews for all of its courses

What is this? Do i have to do this when i apply for cambridge chemical Engineering and biotechnology?

@andreakazyncski4518

3 ай бұрын

It’s for math major …

well... at the last few questions, I paused for way too long, just because I hadn't done this question before, I wanted to find out the solutions to the equation and even though I knew pretty early on I wouldn't be successful because (e^(ax))=x is not made to be solved on simple ways, I kept sticking with it for too long, until eventually doing the ye^(y)=ax. I'm way too stubborn. I found the first question much easier than the other ones, as just using the properties of e and ln-functions will carry you to the solution with barely any effort.

Is the mathematics in the room with us right now

Does anyone here know what the mean radio of the earth is? I’m lead to believe it’s 3959 miles. Can anyone here confirm and agree this axiom so we can discuss further this. Thanks

why is she saying only 2 to the 2 to the n while its 2 to the 2 to the 2 to the n?

w2s moving nuts

If this is the entrance interview, what's the exit interview? What is 2+2 and why should you switch to a state public school?

@justepicrk2442

6 ай бұрын

jokeman

would love to see one for economics!

@gillyp

6 ай бұрын

They don’t really do these kinds of things for economics.

@7T7777

5 ай бұрын

economics isnt a real subject

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

5 ай бұрын

that is crazy@@7T7777

@rrt_xoxo5632

5 ай бұрын

​@@7T7777nigga what

@saidsadoo6462

5 ай бұрын

😂

That was quite less challenging than one would think for Cambridge, It was fun regardless

@shadowkille8r99

7 ай бұрын

This is a faked/parody video

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

6 ай бұрын

tf ru talkin abt@@shadowkille8r99

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

6 ай бұрын

its not about the difficulty, its how u think and approach unseen problems.

@shadowkille8r99

6 ай бұрын

@@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE wrong

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

6 ай бұрын

ur wrong lol@@shadowkille8r99

Take base 2 logarithm once, we get 2^2^n vs C1*100^n Take logarithm one more time: 2^n vs C2 + C3*n Can stop right here - the exponent on the left always beats the linear function on the right for large enough n. How could this solution can take more than two minutes at the most? “Logarithms with base > 1 are monotonously increasing functions” - that’s all she should’ve answered to justify how proof for logarithms proves the original statement. Which she did not. As to the generalized second question, the “strategy” should’ve been stated as follows: for arbitrary functions f(x) and g(x) finding the point x0 where they both touch each other is a matter of solving two equations: f(x0) = g(x0) f’(x0) = g’(x0) In high school in Russia I finished that would be considered an extremely weak performance. Not Cambridge quality … or perhaps Cambridge quality is not what I imagined?

is this for undergraduate or graduate courses

@user-cf1xc2tk2c

6 ай бұрын

under

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

5 ай бұрын

undergrad

Apart from the croaky voice she nailed the Qs.

Is this done for teaching positions?

@porridgegod42

7 ай бұрын

this kind of interview is just for student applicants I'd assume

@dehnsurgeon

7 ай бұрын

lol imagine if these were the questions to get teaching positions

@redrevyol

7 ай бұрын

​@@dehnsurgeon Do you know the questions asked for teaching positions then? A position at google requires you to be a decent developer but the interview questions are simple algorithms knowledge.

@bigthinker281

5 ай бұрын

The questions you get asked to be a teaching student in nz are: will you show a commitment to the treaty of waitangi and lots of dei questions and a very basic math test that a kid could do and that’s it!

Why does the guy on the left kinda look like Harry from Sidmen 😭😭😭

it's hard to picture "a hundred of those, a hundred of those, a hundred of those..." growing slower than "2 of those, 2 of those, 2 of those..." at least that's how a 14 year old feels about it...

@Raulxz

6 ай бұрын

Its because it’s 100^(100^n) not 100^(100^(100^n)) there’s only 2 100 and 3 2sand if you just compare the top exponents which are n for the 100s and 2^n for the 2s and 2^n is exponential growth so in the long term it will be bigger as its rate of growth is larger

16^n > 100^100^n obviously...am i missing something?

@Ujjayanroy

6 ай бұрын

@@bentwonie8287 never knew that brackets make a different sense...thanks

@lastfreegeneration984

4 ай бұрын

wouldn't 16^n be less than 100^100^n? If so, then yes, it seems so obvious, why the need for all the log stuff? I feel same as you...am I missing something?

@lastfreegeneration984

4 ай бұрын

oh I see, 2^(2^(2^n)) is not the same as (((2)^2)^2)^n , is that it?

At 15:00 I do not agree that lnx goes to infinity when x goes to infinity just because the derivative is positive.

@ianbennett2443

7 ай бұрын

True, but I guess it would be possible to prove it using the fact that the range of ln(x) is the real numbers AND that the function is increasing (which I guess would involve a couple other theorems too), if you were for some reason really set on not proving it the normal way

@ianbennett2443

7 ай бұрын

or the fact that the function is increasing and has no upper bound would be enough

@joncyprus1304

7 ай бұрын

@ianbennett2443 Since the function is increasing for all X in the domain it’s synonymous with a positive derivative for all x. The range is based off the domain of the inverse function e^x which is all real numbers so it has no bound and would likely be the fastest way to do it.

@vibinpenguin7021

7 ай бұрын

@@ianbennett2443 -e^-x satisfies all the conditions you gave and does not approach infinity. you've got to use the second derivative too

@akihuanakamori2578

7 ай бұрын

increasing function can have a converging point in some exceptional cases.

that was easy bro ong i couldve made it to cambridge

w2s?

The trouble with this selection process is that it eliminates all potentially exceptional students who have not yet learned the skills of problem solving. Surely that's your job, Cambridge, to teach such skills! Or are you just upping your university rankings by taking in the already-skilled problem solvers?

damn jee aspirants could do this in 5 mins and leave

@Idk12930

5 ай бұрын

Once again, it's not about the questions, your academic ability is already proven pre interview when you complete your admissions test. The interview is to see how teachable you are.

the magic number is e^(1/e)

They lost me when they asked the question.

Impressive young lady

This is elementary school maths

I thought It was a coding Interview hehe DSA

why does the top left look like harry from the sidemen

W

Ah, this reminds me of my mathematics interview at imperial college London 22 years ago, which I aced, might I say. 😁

I think im lost, I was looking for the cute cats channel

@John-cl8iv2

3 ай бұрын

how did mange to get here lol

That first question was a horrible question to start with.

Obviously f(n)=2^2^2^n grows faster than g(n)=100^100^n ... log(log(log(f(n)))) / log(log(log(g(n)))) ~ n / log n -> infinity.

@John-cl8iv2

3 ай бұрын

yeah Thats what was doing tooo, but I did l2^n/n goes to infinity ,so

Im living turkey and ı admit turkey math lessons are more dificult then cambridge lessons

arent these questions too easy???

@akihuanakamori2578

7 ай бұрын

they are not when u are given so much room to express your answers.

@shadowkille8r99

7 ай бұрын

@@akihuanakamori2578 wtf does this even mean can you please write something coherent

@Reojoker

6 ай бұрын

They're about right for a BSc I think. The interview is as much a test of how well a student can explain their thought process and respond to menotring than a test of pure mathematical skill. Don't forget that there is also an entrance exam which is geared more towards asking tougher questions.

@vanerk_

6 ай бұрын

​@@Reojokerdo you mean for enrolling in BSc?

God, I hate maths.

Wtf is this I'm preparing for IIT (India).we do solve this type of problems in basic maths level 1😮

@user-cf1xc2tk2c

6 ай бұрын

yes it’s easy,why not try for cam😏🤣

@sanjaymajhi4428

6 ай бұрын

IITs overrated

@skullman424

6 ай бұрын

@@sanjaymajhi4428 normal college se toh lakh Guna accha a Hai.IIT na niklne k baad Mera friend v yahi bol raha tha,shayad mai v yahi bolunga agar nahi nikla toh 🤣

@sanjaymajhi4428

6 ай бұрын

@@skullman424 high five. My boy

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

6 ай бұрын

ur so cool mate

she was noobie

Not diverse enough to get a place.

Mocking mathematics???? Are you insane??

Oh this is intermediate-level maths in college In India these are taught in 11th standard

As an indian, i already know the bigger number is 2^2^2^n... Just math intuition

@kennyelkhart

6 ай бұрын

Intuition is good but you also have to be able to make a sound argument why that’s the case.

@HELLOHELLOISANYBODYTHERE

5 ай бұрын

doesnt matter, if u cant explain it u wont be offered a place to study Mathematics. And why do u need to relate everything to where ur from?

@TedThomasTT

5 ай бұрын

Nobody cares you're Indian bro

Future woke interviews

w2s if he didnt do hardcore drugs:

@the777lover3

6 ай бұрын

😂

I hope this doesn't come across as too critical or offensive, but is attitude/composure/professionalism considered in these interviews? I found Amy's frustrated "eugh" early in the interview came across as very unprofessional, and seemed like a disregard for the importance of the interview (and I'm sure she does understand the importance of it). This also obviously has no bearing on her mathematical ability.

@shadowkille8r99

7 ай бұрын

First off, this is a parody video. Second, it definitely would be considered. Amy’s conduct in this video wasn’t just bad, it was borderline inappropriate, especially with her mathematical ability

@joelwillis2043

7 ай бұрын

you are a rube

@jayrun4341

7 ай бұрын

Why was her attitude unprofessional I thought it was polite and respectful???

@sb_dunk

7 ай бұрын

​@@jayrun43412:33 was my main example, I think that saying "aargh" during an interview should be avoided personally.

@jayrun4341

7 ай бұрын

@@sb_dunkokay well I just think it’s fine like it’s a little awkward but I think the interviews really don’t care much, at least if it was me interviewing I would just be looking for her mathematical ability. I think something like that is pretty minor to me.

In the first question here, they are actually wrong. This is a trick question as N goes to infinity which is a concept that we cannot conceptually grasp, meaning they are equally big (or sized, as their size is actually undefinable)

Maths is nonsense and unnatural but she seems nice so i hope she gets a place