The government has known for years that not enough midwives are being trained. People can only take the staffing pressures for so long.

@hiramabiff2017

9 ай бұрын

So you didn't bother to look before you went on a anti government rant...It's not the governments place to recruit midwives it's the NHS's. That is why the NHS receives £millions for it's midwife recruitment programme and the " Government " capped the UK midwife training courses to under £10k with a guaranteed minimum salary of £34k a year. They did that in 2020.... derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr "

@steveparker8065

9 ай бұрын

@@hiramabiff2017 Who funds the NHS and education? The government. Who is responsible for a £37 billion real-terms drop in NHS funding in the past decade? Who is responsible for the 2012 health care bill that prioritizes for-profit organisations in the NHS? giving even more taxpayer funding to shareholders rather than patients - The government. Who is responsible for low wages in the NHS and public sector lowering incentives in those career paths? The government. Who is responsible for the decline of beds, ambulances, hospitals and a 100,000 staff shortage in the NHS? The Government... You are politically illiterate and ignorant of the real causes...

@steveparker8065

9 ай бұрын

@@hiramabiff2017PS "In the year to June 2022, 40,365 NHS nurses in England left active service - equivalent to one in nine. Across the decade for which data are available, this is a peak in absolute terms (6,100 more leavers than the previous peak five years prior) and relative to the size of the workforce, with a leaver rate of 11.5%" Over 1 in 10 nurses are leaving the NHS, many opting to work abroad where pay is considerably higher...

@nondisclosure3920

9 ай бұрын

​@@hiramabiff2017And the funding to actually provide resources to do their jobs without burning out? Also, what does that mean in real terms, accounting for inflation since labour were in power? Overall, NHS DRs a d nurses are 20% worse off financially, work with less resources and over way longer hours

@OllieX123

9 ай бұрын

@@hiramabiff2017the Kingsfund did a report directly evidencing the decline in the NHS with decreased funding by the successive Governments since 2010. This has created a cascade of issues leading to chronic, systemic problems that a sudden injection of money recently isn’t going to immediately resolve. Those problems are just coming to a head now.

All part of the plan. US private health care will come in and politicians will get paid.

@slartibartfast7921

9 ай бұрын

Nailed it.

@shoelessjoe428

9 ай бұрын

"That's the standard technique of privatisation: defund, make sure things don't work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital." - Noam Chomsky

The same reason why Registered Nurses are leaving.

@r8chlletters

9 ай бұрын

Appropriate patient to nurse ratios must be instituted and you do not admit people unless you can meet the requirements.

A reduction of funds going to the NHS is to blame for this. The funding cuts have been going on since the Tories came to power 13 years ago. The NHS has always been the first casualty of the Tories rule in Britain. A reduced budget will affect the quality of care especially when there is a reduced number of staff members in any given shift or per unit or ward

@nondisclosure3920

9 ай бұрын

They want it to fail. That way when American companies buy what's left of it their "friends and family's" shares in said companies skyrocket

@Kwippy

9 ай бұрын

With Sunak and others dangling tax cuts like the proverbial carrot, it's not certain that the Tories won't win the next election. Tax cuts always a sure-fire vote winner.

@Daisy-tl2lh

2 ай бұрын

don't expect thing to change under Labour after they have invited the whole world and his wife into our country with the sole aim of getting them to vote Labour

I'm one of these mum's my baby was murdered by our hospital and my midwife left. They should have all been fired. Rest in peace LinDavid you were apart of our perfect family for 41 short days. We begged for help and were ignored. He should be turning one this December. We have been abandoned by the nhs! He should still be alive!

@MsZoe85

9 ай бұрын

My heart goes out to you and your sweet baby. I’ve went back to my country to give birth as I was continuously failed by NHS during my pregnancy.

@Domino_20

Ай бұрын

Really sorry for your loss. 😢 ❤️‍🩹

Same in Australia. I was a Midwife for over 20 years and left last year because I felt totally unsafe and unsupported. I felt the women were in an unsafe environment and were also unsupported

@christinefiedor3518

7 ай бұрын

But midwife’s in Australia have less responsibility than they do in uk.

@karendawson9372

7 ай бұрын

@@christinefiedor3518 it’s Midwives

@christinefiedor3518

7 ай бұрын

Oh apologies for not checking my grammar. I’m not that much of a pedant! @@karendawson9372

@user-ix7rj3pc7r

Ай бұрын

I was in a similar situation. I used to be a midwife in the UK been over a year or two now since I left and it was the best decision I made. I felt extremely unsupported, was constantly put in very unsafe working conditions, overworked, underpaid and stressed out that it got to the point I was worried about going on shift and making a mistake that would affect a baby, mother and her family I didn't want that on my conscience and management didn't care no matter how much we complained. So I thought you know what I have had enough! Left did a career change and not looked back since. If the working conditions were better guaranteed not so many midwives would be leaving!

I'm a British Nurse and just left the UK 2 weeks ago because the STUPID UK Immigration denied my wife's visa to live with me in London. Although patients are suffering because staffs like me left the service, the UK Government deserves it. We get paid so little despite all that we do for the public. Now, I live in Vienna, Austria and having the time of my life with my beautiful wife who is an Industrial Engineer. 😊

@monikel

6 ай бұрын

I believe you are a Philipino person who probably obtained British citizenship

@ninitch42

6 ай бұрын

@@monikel yes, that is correct!

@apebass2215

5 ай бұрын

​@@ninitch42 so you're not a British nurse, you're a Filipino nurse.

@ninitch42

5 ай бұрын

@@apebass2215 I'm British.. And that's a fact.. Unless you are uneducated about Naturalisation? 😎

@mariantenzagh8120

2 ай бұрын

@@apebass2215😂😂

They are away to Australia for better pay and working conditions. What do you expect when you have the tories privatising the nhs.

@MatthewYoung-nn7ek

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately a lot of them will go on to get skin cancer due to ridiculously high UV radiation. Grass isn't always greener

Nothing will happen with the Tories … they just don’t care.

@Kwippy

9 ай бұрын

Don't just blame the Tories, blame the people who voted for them, which for the last 13 years is the majority of the British public. You get the NHS you deserve.

@melgrant7404

9 ай бұрын

@@Kwippy they voted for the NHS they thought they were going to get more like. Don't turn this on the electorate.

@shoelessjoe428

9 ай бұрын

@@melgrant7404 Remember the bullsht about "40 New Hospitals"? ..Never happened. Remember the lies about "£350m extra per week" from Brexit? Never happened.

And midwifery is not included in shortage occupation😅 I love the delusion.

O had my twin girls in 2020 in Bristol Hospital! All midwives were exceptionally good and nice! Thank you Kelly for taking care of us! You are the best!

@juenothing5432

9 ай бұрын

You are lucky. I worked there as a midwife, trained in Bristol too. The very best unit every!! But I have worked in some dire units. Utterly awful. I left one horrible unit half way through a shift! Literally just walked out.

Agree completely cqc is a shambles to be frank. Its now not fit for purpose.

The midwives who looked after me at ARI were all absolutely angels. I would always appreciate them.

Someone went into Torbay hospital for C-section! Lost lots of blood so had to have hysterectomy! As she couldn’t move properly she had to be turned etc! Next she got clots in her legs! Came home with beautiful baby girl but mother has no legs!

@sofiakhan4580

9 ай бұрын

That’s terrible.

@sofiakhan4580

9 ай бұрын

I had similar experience at Luton and Dunstable Hospital , they did a cover up afterwards, I nearly died because of he negligence of the awful midwives

@boykotgooglification

9 ай бұрын

I am not suprised at all. It has been always an awful experience to deliver a baby in a uk hospital.They literally kick the mum and the new born baby (traumatised) out of the hospital on the same day. 😔

Well I’m sure this won’t exacerbate the low birth rate problem we already have /s

Staffing, budget and pay. It's as simple as that. like the Professor said currently the NHS is in a downward spiral, and the government and NHS leaders are using foreign workers now more than ever to plug the gaps but with the ever increasing workload and same ratios (and a frankly astounding amount of vacancies) its not enough and the downward spiral continues. Pay attracts but is also pointless if the budget doesn't increase allowing ratios to increase and workload to decrease to manageable levels. The government are aware of this, the NHS leaders are aware of this but both are in agreement that the last thing they want to do is invest more money into the service albeit for different reasons. Make no mistake the NHS is dead and something awfully inadequate for the 21st century rose from its ashes and the general public suffer for it.

@nondisclosure3920

9 ай бұрын

Actually a lot of workers left to return to Europe because of Brexit. Overall there is a staffing shortage across the country. Public services being the most impacted. The service would be fine had it been properly funded and managed. Instead it's been cut off at the knees and systematically undemined

@r8chlletters

9 ай бұрын

Be glad you aren’t in the US. You’d deal with understaffing and you’d be paying many thousands to deliver your baby.

13 years of Tory rule. That’s how it got to this.

@swifthippo1

9 ай бұрын

@@felixsmith5234or somehow it’s the conflict in Ukraine’s fault, lol

In the US you have the doctor on call and the nurses on shift but if you want ACTUAL care you also need a midwife AND a doula to advocate for you and ensure continuity of care. This is enormously expensive and out of reach for most women.

@tjmarx

9 ай бұрын

Completely irrelevant

@slartibartfast7921

9 ай бұрын

Two wrongs don’t make a right though do they.

Yp that’s why I blessed enough to hire a private midwife my previous midwife almost left me traumatized. My mother as well as other nurses left the poorly run NHS. An influx of patients has destroyed the NHS!

In a world full of bullshit carefree jobs that could easily not exist and nothing would change, doing a real stressful job like that of the nurse or the doctor is a form of self sacrifice that very few are willing to endure.

@apebass2215

5 ай бұрын

What bullshit carefree job do you do then?

@kalampoki93

5 ай бұрын

@@apebass2215 currently i live from professional betting and i make more than a doctor

600 new mid wives, if they exclude all that have left in the past year. Such disingenuous use of numbers 😢

Long Hours Stress low Wages low Morale it ant rocket Science Primark here i come👎🇬🇧

I’d pay £100 per month to get NHS up to standard.

@slartibartfast7921

9 ай бұрын

Aaaand that’s why the Tories and Labour before them have allowed/caused the NHS to fail. You’re essentially a proponent of private health care, and you’re exactly where they want you. Mug.

@softaudio4942

9 ай бұрын

need somebody to organise it

@ChemicalShots

9 ай бұрын

Get a decent private healthcare scheme for that amount.

@shoelessjoe428

9 ай бұрын

@@ChemicalShots And they'll still pull the rug on you when you desperately need your first serious or ongoing treatment.

@ChemicalShots

9 ай бұрын

@@shoelessjoe428 not happened to me yet, had few operations also. Price stayed the same.

I have had the worst possible experience at Wirral Womens and Childrens Maternity Ward. The midwives lied, were rude, intimidating, couldn't even be bothered to cover their grave errors. The maternity ward also seemed to be grossly under-funded. Either that or senior management are not handling the finance budget correctly. I did not breastfeed directly as a result of how poorly the midwives treated me, my baby and husband.

@magicmoonchild2170

9 ай бұрын

At least your baby lived! Mine was murdered by our hospital, what you are complaining about sounds like good care.

An organization is only as good as its mid-management. But successful mid-management is dependent on realistic and supportive upper management.

The system is broken. It's been like that for a while. So yes, the onus is on the parents unfortunately.

Sad

Easy check how Portland Hospital works and make it accessible for the community.

You’ve missed Darrent valley

Only got paracetamol and ibuprofen maybe half the time I was supposed to after emergency c section. Still occasionally have nightmares about the constant agony I was in.

It’s cultural too, bad attitude in the NHS from the higher ups and lots of bullying of each other amongst staff

Hello from Sweden where it's also broken. I guess there is something common in both systems that makes them suck for parents, newborns and midwifes

@franckcolomb5579

9 ай бұрын

Yes. Both countries giving priority to hijab mothers

But but but a VoCaTIon

Enough is enough we need a general election now.

@nyakwarObat

9 ай бұрын

And that's gonna achieve what?

@melgrant7404

9 ай бұрын

@@nyakwarObat a new government. Isn't that the point

@nyakwarObat

9 ай бұрын

@@melgrant7404 and will achieve what? Do you even realise that they all go through the same schooling process to achieve the same result set by those who are actually running this systems you live by?

@apebass2215

5 ай бұрын

​@@melgrant7404you genuinely think a new government will change anything? The privatisation started in 1997 under Blair.

CQC is a joke

Aaahhh thee dont neede man!😅

❤🎉 Cool Hippie 🎉❤😎

Where are the "pro-life" people out harassing women to force them to have children? Why don't they care about these children and women being hurt?

@nyakwarObat

9 ай бұрын

"Harass women"..you reaching 🙄

@apebass2215

5 ай бұрын

By "harassing" do you mean praying silently outside a clinic?

5:10 "In a statistically insignificant poll we attempted to rig for this program just over HALF of midwives said their biggest problem the job was pay.... 87% said they were upset because their friends we leaving, which was a separate response to resources." Here CH4 are reporting that midwives aren't up to scratch, that their inadequate training and processes are costing lives. That instead of tackling those issues it's been swept under the rug and wards given a weird consumer rating system on competency that isn't transparent nor fit for purpose. Probably purposefully so. You're reporting this, rightly so, but then you ruin it by trying to turn this into a funding issue and rattling off union talking points. This report started out so well, exposing the actual incompetency and poor training of staff inside the NHS. Exposing the fatal negligence of processes and staff. The stuff of real, actual public interest. The stuff that genuinely needs to be made a big deal about. But then you paste over it with utter nonsense to distract from the issues just raised in an attempt to what, appease the union? Utterly flabbergasted, you can't make this stuff up. There's are reason Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Yankville are all looking at placing UK trained doctors, nurses and midwives on the same list as the same from India or Cuba. In desperation to fill position vacancies the UK dropped both their selection criteria and the quality of training. The criteria for previous training of immigrant doctors to register has also been lowered. Combined, these things are resulting in a fatal NHS. You don't get Lucy Letbys anywhere near a hospital when you have a robust training suitability selection process. Sunak has taken the first step to solving the problem by bringing high school education into the 20th century (not into the 21st century yet, still lagging behind). But that's going to take a decade to see those graduates come through. What the government really needs to do is lay the ground work by lifting selection criteria for medicine and healthcare courses back up to where it is supposed to be, and supplementing training of those already working inside the NHS to ensure everyone has the skills to successfully operate inside their roles. There need to be robust and fully transparent reporting processes put in place to gauge how that training is coming along, and lines in the sand where failure to perform adequately or score high enough in supplemental training leads to dismissal. I sympathise with workers but this is patient lives and safety we're talking about.

@christinefiedor3518

9 ай бұрын

Wow! I completely agree with what you say regarding robust training for health care professionals.I trained in the NHS in Registered General and Registered Sick Children’s Nurse ‘old school’ and proud of it. I used to be so proud of training in the NHS but I now keep that information to myself such is current reputation. I hate to state the bleeding obvious but under the traditional training the college of nursing was also the employer. You’ve alway had to have half a brain to be a competent RN but I never believed a degree was necessary. There were 3 students in my general class who already had undergraduate degrees in other fields . All 3 were astonished at what they had to learn and be examined and competency assessed . They all said it was far more challenging than anything they had done at uni. And that was back in the days when only the cream got into uni. Now a nursing degree is relatively easy to get into and often the entry requirements are less than they used to be under the old system. Discipline and following policy and procedure to letter are paramount to the safety of both staff and patient and all breaches should be dealt with. It’s actually not rocket science. When will the powers that be learn that when somethings not broke don’t try to fix it.

Give birth in the wood like before

@viola1699

9 ай бұрын

Obviously you not a female.😅

@franckcolomb5579

9 ай бұрын

@@viola1699 i ve seen it done before. Everything went well

@viola1699

9 ай бұрын

@@franckcolomb5579yeah easy to say just try doing yourself instead next time.😅

@franckcolomb5579

9 ай бұрын

@@viola1699i was a bystander, with 12 more villagers😂

Wow…. Another crisis…😂

brexiteers

tory mandarins thats mandatory tory mandarism

Resources is not the problem unchecked monsters in post.

@emma647

2 ай бұрын

Very true, so many women have horror stories of evil midwives, including myself.

@Caden-fe6lm

Ай бұрын

I do wonder if it creates a turning off of empathy after UK views on painkillers for women procedures. Only offered paracetamol and ibuprofen after an emergency c section. They even forgot to give me that half the time. This level of pain management is apparently normal in this country which I didn't know until I went through it. Was told pain was normal. Could barely walk due to pain and it really affected me mentally. Could you imagine seeing that level of pain as normal. I could see how that would make those carrying out those orders callous.

small % of the nhs staff get comfortable put on weight get lazy & reluctant to do what they used to do &a % dont look after themselves outside work hence burnout not saying all like this but some this adds to the problem if they dont look after themselves correcltly lifestyle they lead outside of work is hectic say 4 kids smoke drink etc cathy hudson & her cronies prime example of the above

@baepy

9 ай бұрын

huh?

@harismohammad2005

9 ай бұрын

They put on weight because of stress and I’ve never known weight to affect work ethic health maybe but the quality of work is yet to be determined by the weight of a healthcare worker.

@Jenny-nz8fb

9 ай бұрын

What are you talking about?

Thin end of the wedge. Midwives are a dodgy dodgy bunch of people who know they are doing harm.

@MatthewYoung-nn7ek

9 ай бұрын

What you chatting about?

@whosthathun

9 ай бұрын

Comments like this contribute to why so many health care professionals are leaving their profession. Most try their best under highly pressured and stressful environments with 0 respect from the general population.

@apebass2215

5 ай бұрын

​@@whosthathun if someone is so fragile that an anonymous troll in some KZread comments will cause them to leave their job then I don't think they're capable of being a health professional in the first place.

@whosthathun

5 ай бұрын

@apebass2215 ahhh yes, the anonymous troll on the Internet gets to dictate who is and isn't suitable to be a healthcare professional!

NHS IS NOT UP TO PAR WITH HER OECD RATINGS

Because they are wimps. I work in this role and it is hectic and busy, but i manage . Its called WORK. Get a grip and grow up and deal with it. Do you want a relaxing walk in the park? I come over here from another country snd cannot belive how uk nhs workers breakdown at the hint of a bit of hard work. Grow up, and get on with it. I can do it so theres no reason these others can't .

@Lupulic

9 ай бұрын

I’m a uk midwife. I literally am on my feet for 12.5hrs, expected to do the work of 2 or more people sometimes, do not sit down, eat or drink. Sometimes I don’t get a break, making life or death decisions in such a stressed and highly pressured environment, with not enough staff or resources to help people the way I want to. But sure… I’d love to know what job you do… must be so hard.