Matching 12” wheels on a Honda Navi 110! New front tire!

If you hate that little 10” rear wheel as much as I do, you can replace it with a front wheel from #babbitsonline Waited for months for this to be in stock and it rides great!

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  • @DirtroadHonkyTonk
    @DirtroadHonkyTonk Жыл бұрын

    I watch yours vids for the "Mickey Mouse hand" pointer 😄 Love it !!!! Great navi vids !

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ll try to use it more often! Haha

  • @wilfridomedrano274
    @wilfridomedrano2742 ай бұрын

    Got to love the hand

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    2 ай бұрын

    I need to remember to use it more! Thanks for the reminder!

  • @durby24
    @durby24 Жыл бұрын

    It’s looks great with that bigger wheel

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It’s definitely one of my favorite modifications.

  • @jcsuperstars1100
    @jcsuperstars1100 Жыл бұрын

    Flip the nut and bolt setup so the bolt head is touching the engine. Then grind off the excess bolt thread on the bottom side.

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Great idea, mounted it this way so it was adjustable while on the side stand. Turned around I had to lift it back on the center stand to readjust. So it was just easier this way. And probably temporary.

  • @sheba6779
    @sheba6779 Жыл бұрын

    Hi great video 👍🏼 Do you think with some adjustments the rear fender can be used with the 12” wheel on the back?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m sure one could be cut and modified but I would probably start with something smaller if I wanted a rear fender.

  • @gilbertohernandez7672
    @gilbertohernandez7672 Жыл бұрын

    jajjajajaja i love your mini hand brou,

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I think it’s funny! Haha

  • @HyllustheBarbarian
    @HyllustheBarbarian Жыл бұрын

    How much did you have to grind for the rear tire to spin freely. I really want a taller and wider rear tire.

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Not much at all for the stock front tire to fit but a bit more for anything else. I’m trying to wait until I have a wider rear wheel so the tire is stretched a bit and I’ll see how much room I have.

  • @nealwhite8425
    @nealwhite84255 ай бұрын

    When you put the front 12 on the rear you left the rear hub on right? And just removed the 4 nuts/outter rim? I want to be double sure that the front hub dose not go on the rear.

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    5 ай бұрын

    The hubs can’t be swapped front to rear but the wheel/rim offset is the same.

  • @hzaworld_2142
    @hzaworld_2142 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man I bent my rear rim on a pothole so air won't hold and need a replacement. I checked babbitt's and they don't have real wheels available. Does the front rim fit without any extra modifications?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Some modification is required.

  • @jacobfirlik12
    @jacobfirlik12Күн бұрын

    Can you give a link to what you got from Babbitt?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Күн бұрын

    For the wheel? Looks like they’ve changed the part number so maybe they have more in stock? www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/p/honda/44650-k74-a00/wheel-sub-assy-fr

  • @Raguvian
    @Raguvian Жыл бұрын

    Just to confirm you undid the 4 bolts and reused the center of the stock rear wheel/brake assembly with the new 12" front wheel? Thanks!

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the hubs can not be swapped but the wheels can with a little work.

  • @Raguvian

    @Raguvian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto thanks!!

  • @cesarhidalgo23
    @cesarhidalgo23 Жыл бұрын

    How did you do your clip ons? Looks good!

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out the Chimera U-bomb bar from steadygarage.com Pick the U-bomb bar you want and it gives you options for clip ons. They’re Woodcraft and REALLY nice. 🤙🏻

  • @cesarhidalgo23

    @cesarhidalgo23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto thank you!!

  • @d.lowding
    @d.lowding Жыл бұрын

    hello, I hope you can help me, I bought the same oem 12" front wheel and was going to use that for the rear. I also bought a 100/90-12 tire that I was going to use for the rear so that I wouldn't have to mess with the front wheel. Can I just flip the tire to change the rotation direction? because the tire I bought says "front tire only"? I hope that makes sense.

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    If it’s the same brand and model of tire, I believe they are supposed to face opposite directions. I’m running a “front” tire on the rear of both my Navis due to the sizes available.

  • @d.lowding

    @d.lowding

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto does it rain a lot where you are? I'm worried about hydroplaning, do you think that could be an issue? or is it fine if you just flip the tires?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Hydroplaning can happen regardless of tires if you’re riding faster than you should. I only ride one direction when it starts raining and that’s home.

  • @antonioleyba8043
    @antonioleyba8043 Жыл бұрын

    Would 12 inch on the back help stability against wind?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I think lowering the bars to put more rider weight over the front end makes the most difference. But upgrading the tires definitely helps.

  • @sheba6779
    @sheba6779 Жыл бұрын

    Hi does the rear tire rub at top end speed ? Thanks

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I run pretty high tire pressure so the tire doesn’t expand much at full speed. No problem so far.

  • @qcustomz
    @qcustomz5 ай бұрын

    You have link for your exhaust?

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    5 ай бұрын

    It’s modified from a Japanese spec pcx150. Does not fit Navi with out a lot modification.

  • @jackleung4735
    @jackleung4735 Жыл бұрын

    Hey bro I order the 12” wheel and it’s on its way, but I forgot to ask if I need to order a front drum with it to match???

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    No, but that front wheel will come with an extra hub you won’t need. The new front wheel will bolt right to the rear hub. But you’ll need the shave the rib on the back of the dipstick and make an adjustment to the center stand.

  • @jackleung4735

    @jackleung4735

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you bud! I really appreciate that, can’t wait to order 100/90/12 for my front tire! I just install my home made intake and eliminate my rear fender today too

  • @him4201

    @him4201

    Жыл бұрын

    Where are you guys getting the wheel from I can’t find it anywhere

  • @nxdboi

    @nxdboi

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@him4201 Straight from Honda, probably.

  • @TheLeo6890
    @TheLeo6890 Жыл бұрын

    Bigger rear tire make the navi slower ? Did you note the difference

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Higher top speed with taller rear tire.

  • @silas.anderson

    @silas.anderson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto came in the comments to ask about this, how much of a speed gain was there. obviously would hurt your acceleration.

  • @heritagehillsecurity8778

    @heritagehillsecurity8778

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silas.anderson Not necessarily. Slightly lighter weights on the variator or an upgrade to the rear centrifucal clutch and contra spring would negate any loss of acceleration.

  • @heritagehillsecurity8778

    @heritagehillsecurity8778

    Жыл бұрын

    @Xtra Medium Mini Moto Your Navi build is super cool. How fast have you let yourself ride on the 12" rims?

  • @philipcloutier2553
    @philipcloutier2553 Жыл бұрын

    Help Honda just quote me $250 cad for the front tire .please where are you get tires from I laughed at them 😂. I did order a new front rim .

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Make sure they under stand that it has a drum brake and no chain. If they assumed it was a regular moto and they have to deal with a chain adjustment in the rear and disc brake in the front, that would be average labor. But the Navi is much simpler.

  • @dennismau9103
    @dennismau9103 Жыл бұрын

    Honda designed the Navi with a smaller rear wheel, so it would have quicker handling and be more maneuverable. You're going to have very dirty clothes riding in the rain with no fender also.

  • @xtramediumminimoto

    @xtramediumminimoto

    Жыл бұрын

    No, the smaller wheel is for ease of replacement. Mine is faster and handles better than stock. But thanks for your concern about my clothes.

  • @dennismau9103

    @dennismau9103

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto Your wrong. "WHY ARE THE TWO WHEELS ON MOTORCYCLES DIFFERENT IN SIZE? If you pay attention, you will notice that for most motorcycles on the road, especially the scooter, the front and rear wheel sizes are often not the same. Specifically, the front wheel usually has a larger diameter, but the width of the tire is narrower than the rear wheel. In fact, rubber tires began to be used on motorbikes in the 1800s, when the front and rear wheels were the same size. However, since the 1900s, professional tire manufacturers have shown that the same size of front and rear tires is not optimal for operation. To bring the best performance, the wheels often have mismatched sizes between the front and back, specifically. front rim size is bigger than the rear rim The front wheel on a motorcycle is a pressure wheel and has a navigation function, so when the rim size is bigger, the car has better navigation, especially the flexibility to operate on the uneven road conditions (such as sidewalk climbing, etc.). Of course, manufacturers also calculate how big the tire size is enough, not just the bigger, the better. In addition, the smaller size of the rear wheel increases the space between the wheel and the saddle - a condition to bring the trunk more spacious, so most scooters have wide trunks. bigger front wheels like the rear wheels like Honda Lead (with 37-liter trunk) with 12-inch front wheels, 10-inch rear wheels; Yamaha Acruzo (trunk 37 liters) has 12-inch front wheels, 10-inch rear wheels. And one more thing, this difference in size also helps to reduce the shock on motorcycles with longer journeys, which helps the car to be quieter during the operation, helping riders to be comfortable, especially on the long roads. Rear tires are usually wider than the front tires. While the front rim size is bigger than the rear rim, the rear tire is usually bigger than the front tire. It can be clearly seen that many vehicles such as Honda SH scooters with 100 mm front tires, 120 mm rear tires; Yamaha Exciter has 90 mm front tires, 120 mm rear tires. The reason is that the rear wheel is usually the main load bearing wheel on the motorbike, so the greater the area of ​​contact with the ground, the better the stability and balance of the vehicle during the operation. In addition, wide rear tires also help the car have a good fulcrum to create stronger traction, better for the acceleration process for motorcycles. And aesthetically, the large rear tires often give the bike a boost and luxury, which is why the most high-end scooters often have rear wheels called "fat wheels." Naturally, in the navigational role, the narrower the front tire is, the more flexible it is to change direction. However, the front wheel needs better grip (with more spines and deeper grooves) because when operating on slippery roads in the rain, if the front tire is worn it is easy to slip and endangering operators. This is also the reason that regular disc brakes and ABS brakes are often preferred equipment for front wheels. Although the front and rear wheels have different roles during use, users should pay attention to periodic maintenance for both to ensure safety. source : danviet.vn/xe360/tai-sao-2-banh-tren-xe-may-lai-co-kich-thuoc-khac-nhau-1076258.html

  • @dennismau9103

    @dennismau9103

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xtramediumminimoto No, you are wrong. Vespa's have smaller wheels for the same reason.

  • @nxdboi

    @nxdboi

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dennismau9103 better handling at slow speeds in its stock form, absolutely. At high speeds, however, the smaller the wheel, the more unstable the bike. Otherwise street bikes would all stink bugged and ride on 10's lol.

  • @dennismau9103

    @dennismau9103

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nxdboi True, but the Navi isn't designed for high speeds. 50 mph is its top speed, and for that the wheels are fine. Bigger diameter wheels have more gyroscope effect on a regular size motorcycle, but they are not as maneuvarible at slow speeds.