Mastering The Darkside: Understanding The Sith Code

My essay into why I think that the Philosophy of the Sith Order parallels to modern day Conservatism.
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  • @shaydowsith348
    @shaydowsith348 Жыл бұрын

    The difference between a Sith Lord and a Dark Jedi is a little bit different than what you state. A Sith Lord is trained by a Sith Master. (This was true even before the Rule of Two Sith). A dark Jedi comes to the Dark Side on their own. There are also practitioners of the dark side that are neither (The Nightsisters).

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    KZread comment system really sucks. But I'll answer your other comment here. You bring up a good point with the whole Dark Side Corruption angle. However you have to remember that there were plenty of Sith who did not suffer from Dark Side Degeneracy. Count Dooku, Darth Zana and Darth Maul just off the top of my head, yet all were extremely powerful Sith Lords. Even Sidious himself, before his battle with Mace Windu, showed no signs of Dark Side Degeneracy.

  • @PickleRick65

    @PickleRick65

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @PhantomRedKnight
    @PhantomRedKnight5 ай бұрын

    I am Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith. Those who use the dark side are also bound to serve it. To understand this is to understand the underlying philosophy of the Sith. The dark side offers power for power's sake. You must crave it. Covet it. You must seek power above all else, with no reservation or hesitation. The Force will change you. It will transform you. Some fear this change. The teachings of the Jedi are focused on fighting and controlling this transformation. That is why those who serve the light are limited in what they accomplish. True power can come only to those who embrace the transformation. There can be no compromise. Mercy, compassion, loyalty: all these things will prevent you from claiming what is rightfully yours. Those who follow the dark side must cast aside these conceits. Those who do not-those who try to walk the path of moderation-will fail, dragged down by their own weakness. Those who accept the power of the dark side must also accept the challenge of holding on to it. By its very nature the dark side invites rivalry and strife. This is the greatest strength of the Sith: it culls the weak from our order. Yet this rivalry can also be our greatest weakness. The strong must be careful lest they be overwhelmed by the ambitions of those working beneath them in concert. Any master who instructs more than one apprentice in the ways of the dark side is a fool. In time, the apprentices will unite their strength and overthrow the master. It is inevitable. Axiomatic. That is why each Master must have only one student. This is also the reason there can only be one Dark Lord. The Sith must be ruled by a single leader: the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak another must rise to seize the mantle. The strong rule; the weak are meant to serve. This is the way it must be. My time here is ended. Take what I have taught you and use it well.

  • @darthnox2210
    @darthnox2210 Жыл бұрын

    In relation to the Mind Trick, the Sith have their own variation despite being able to use Mind Trick as well. It is called Mind Twist. Compulsion vs Command essentially. Mind Twist can implant commands, emotions, sensations, or even false memories into a target. This leaves them in the palm of the user's hand. You can make someone believe they are on fire to the point where they actually burn up. You can even leave the person aware that you are controlling them for your own amusement.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info! Appreciate you watching!

  • @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051
    @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 Жыл бұрын

    We don't lack discipline I can assure you... have you ever fought four B-2 battle droids with a saber staff and killed them all with one strike? Nah neither have I 😂😂😂 Hey jokes aside this was really well explained dude. Well done, I'm impressed with the research you done on all this

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot man, I appreciate that, thanks for watching! Be sure to share the video too!

  • @matthewcaskey1051
    @matthewcaskey1051 Жыл бұрын

    You forget that the entire statement was spoken to someone looking to keep one they loved alive. It was manipulation and thus we can't assume any of it was true. Now yes the Sith are not overtly evil, and what they believe is from a predators natural viewpoint, however this doesn't go to paint them as good either. This leaves the judgement of good or evil on cultural differences. It gets deep. But I like that you touched on attachments and other things.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    The jedi manipulate even more. "Don't feel. Do what we tell you. Dark side is bad, mmmkay." Everyone is manipulating in other words. The sith do it in a more "let idiots assume" way. The jedi however are paving the road to hell with good intentions.

  • @nielsandersen6164
    @nielsandersen616411 ай бұрын

    The Sith don’t use the “gentle” Jedi mind trick. Their version, Mind Domination, is absolutely brutal and the victim pretty much becomes a flesh puppet. BTW my opinion is that Dark Jedi are Jedi who turned more or less completely to the dark while Sith are dark side users who adopt the philosophy and the ways of the Sith. I’d say that while Dark Jedi would be a very mixed bag the Sith are very consistent in their goals and their quest for power. Dark Jedi would be former Jedi while Sith could have any origin.

  • @timothyhenegar7484
    @timothyhenegar7484 Жыл бұрын

    Arguing about the Jedi and Sith for a better vernacular, is like arguing about the Vulcans and Romulans in Star Trek. For starters the Sith and Jedi both draw upon the Force. A great energy found and binds in all things. Just like the Vulcans and Romulans while distinctly different in philosophy? Draw from the same ancestry. One is driven by both logic and higher rationality. Jedi focused outward upon the greater balance of the universe. Vulcans relying on science, enlightenment, philosophy to solve and deal with problems. The other is passion, deception, intrigue, and sabotage to survive. Freewill, personal ambition as well with manipulating those to achieve personal or greater gain as a whole. The Sith do this through the Dark Side of the Force, and a bit of manipulative know how in shadow to succeed. The Romulans on the other hand use their emotions, charisma, cunning, to establish contacts, networks, and operate through agents to achieve their goals. Whoever thought there would be parallels between space wizards, and space elves. LOLZ. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Your right 😆. Thanks for watching.

  • @timothyhenegar7484

    @timothyhenegar7484

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 Your welcome! Working on a Star Wars fan fiction of a Sith Master, and Apprentice. The master is more of Thulsa Doom, and the Apprentice is Conan. Sword and Sorcerer, Arcane and Assault. The big difference is more of a father/son arch within the order relationship. The father seeks to mold and shape the son in such an authoritarian spartan like manner. The son seeks approval, acceptance, and to excel beyond expectation. In the end the master dies like Thulsa, but with pride and satisfaction.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothyhenegar7484 Sounds awesome!

  • @timothyhenegar7484

    @timothyhenegar7484

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 The strange irony, in some Pagan practices, chaos/order are parallels of the natural cycle, and also the cosmic cycle. It is understanding the Word, Wyrd/fate, intent, all mean in putting power behind your words and your actions. Now you might ask, can someone learn this power and level of thinking? Not from a Christian point of view. Yes I am Norse Pagan, and Conservative. 😅😂🤣

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is vulcans have mental beakdowns for not allowing themselves to feel. Those that don't let themselves feel are living a lie. They remain weak. The very fact the vulcan home planet got destroyed proves this as well. Just like how the jedi did. Hardly your best argument. Sith are not even remotely like Romulans. They're more direct then that. Romulans are more like Russia in the cold war. Direct enough to put on a show, but also having a good secret service. Sith prefer not to hide if they can help it. Shows more courage and strength. They might let you assume though. And you'll defeat yourself that way. Pretty sure it's intended that way.

  • @shawndashno6022
    @shawndashno6022 Жыл бұрын

    The only real difference from the Jedi and Sith, is that their views can be misconstrued, their texts can be mistranslated. And their actions can be misunderstood.

  • @Jackelmandingo
    @Jackelmandingo Жыл бұрын

    You never have to kill anyone as a Sith lord. But the Jedi can rack up the body count. To each there own.

  • @shawnpanzegraf5642

    @shawnpanzegraf5642

    Жыл бұрын

    Except the closest thing to a well-socialized Sith we have is a cutthroat businessman who wielded Force-specters fueled by a sapient being somewhere in the galaxy. A sapient being who *fell over dead* if the specter attached to them was dispersed. Use of the Dark Side is much like communism in one specific respect. It seems like it could work out great for the practitioner…..on paper. In reality, the *vast* majority of Force Sensitives who more than brush up against the Dark Side end up murderers with either zero impulse control, or an utterly amoral worldview that makes scorching dozens of life-bearing planets out of pure *spite* seem a reasonable course of action. Say what you want about the Jedi, none of them ever extinguished all life on a planet without having Turned/Fallen first.

  • @cr90captain89

    @cr90captain89

    2 ай бұрын

    @@shawnpanzegraf5642 tell that to the Sith species that the jedi helped the old republic exterminate during the great hyperspace war. they put an entire spacefaring interstellar civilization to the sword. every last man , woman & child on those worlds.

  • @danvitty5442
    @danvitty5442 Жыл бұрын

    So basically…. Palpatine for President 2024???

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's Make The Empire Great Again 😆

  • @danvitty5442

    @danvitty5442

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 he made a great Senator and emperor I mean it’s the logical next step to lead the greatest country, a true power move, am I right or am I right

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    It's got to be better then what we already have. Sith don't do voting though. You want something? TAKE it. Might makes right. So let's get him to kill the current leaders to replace them instead. He'll have a laugh about it.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danvitty5442 Worst country actually. The U.S has the worst health and prison system in the world. Job system is near the bottom too. China's is worse there though. Denmark has a good prison system. Finland has housing first. UK has JSA/universal credit that isn't timed. So on and so forth. The problem with the U.S.A is that it's too much ground to cover. They'd be better served seperating the states into different smaller chunks to operate more independently. Some day it will be another civil war for some reason. Those have the highest death rates. It's basically why Russia and Ukraine are fighting. People don't want it again. But it's bound to happen at some point. It's not a question of "if". It's a matter of "when". Probably not in our life times. China and Russia are keeping America too busy for it anyway.

  • @natefontana5757

    @natefontana5757

    Жыл бұрын

    Emperor Palpatine is currently in office

  • @uimanen
    @uimanen Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Anyway, Sith lack discipline? What do you mean?There's many occasions where they stay in hiding for years and decades and only working from the shadows.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Your right, as I said, there's always exceptions. The Emperor was very disciplined in some aspects. But there are many examples of Sith Lords being very impulsive, Vader is a good example. Padme's death was preventable had he only acted more rational. He gained more patience as time went on, but in the beginning, he lacked serious discipline.

  • @shaydowsith348

    @shaydowsith348

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 You must admit that Vader at that time was a "newly minted" Sith, with the zeal of a convert to the cause. He had been a Jedi for years prior to this. A better example of a Sith with patience would be Emperor Vitiate.

  • @leftwardglobe1643

    @leftwardglobe1643

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaydowsith348 A better example of discipline would be Marr. Vitiate, for all of his long planning, was truly unhinged in a variety of ways and did things that made absolutely no sense in the long run. Ultimately how disciplined you are as a Sith lord is entirely dependent on your own moral fiber. The code doesn't prescribe discipline at all. Rather encouraging that you embrace emotional turmoil to explore its effects and make yourself stronger, but not at the expense of your own, personal goals. The code is, at its core, three things: a refutation of Jedi dogma in its acknowledgement that emotions are natural and a part of what makes life worth living, a statement that testing one's limits is the only way to better yourself in the long term, and a reminder that power, regardless of its form, should serve a purpose. I'd say the weakness of the Sith is less that they lack discipline and more that many lose sight of their purpose for pursuing power in the first place. Instead pursuing power for power's sake. Which is not what the code preaches, and "power's" place in the code makes that fairly evident. It is not "through strength I gain power, I shall rule over all," power is merely a means to achieving "victory" over circumstance (whatever that may be) and leveraging that victory in turn to become a freer being. Darth Baras is an interesting example of a Sith who thinks that power is an ultimate pursuit, and you could also make a case for Malgus falling down this same path when he killed his wife to prune weakness. If power does not exist to protect what you value, then it is useless. Even the first two lines of the code leads into the intended message here. "Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion I gain strength." This isn't necessarily literal (though with the force, it can be interpreted as such), but a point that passions are tied to worthy pursuits and can be used to fortify one's resolve. When you have a goal you are passionate about, you will be better equipped and more determined to achieve it. In order to do so, you seek the power necessary, which makes achieving victory possible and at the same time increasing your ability to meet the next challenge head on.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 Except he wasn't Vader at the time. He wasn't a sith yet. Plus name me one person that isn't stupid when they're younger.

  • @marksturm6568

    @marksturm6568

    8 ай бұрын

    they are fueled by strong emotions, which takes away the need for discipline. the jedi need to rely mostly on discipline, because they try to let go of emotions.

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.41342 ай бұрын

    The DarkSide of the force is the key to life not only in the Star Wars Mythos but in real life ✅. The Sith Code will propel you to great heights in personal life success , they are superior in every way. The Jedi are weak due to them always lying to themselves , keeping themselves down & holding themselves back due to them being afraid of their true potential in life 🤷🏾‍♂️. The Jedi are nothing but Deceitful Nice Guys that are like those secret haters that wanna be overtly aggressive but hide it due to it not being “socially correct” or looked at as more “Ugly” so in your face they will stab you behind your back with a smile on their faces but attempt to contain their inner evil however A SITH WILL NOT 🤦🏾‍♂️. The Sith are the heroes of the StarWars Universe & the Jedi are the true villains , it’s facts.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272
    @taramaforhaikido7272 Жыл бұрын

    The only difference between the jedi and the sith is that the sith don't pretend. That's why Anakin says the jedi are evil. Because they're hypocrites. Luke and Yoda are excepetions to this. They both accept their dark side instead of fighting it. Yoda's is shown in the clone wars show. If all you do is go "Black and white" then you're still learning.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, lol

  • @sithsoldier98
    @sithsoldier982 ай бұрын

    Very enlightening point man🤙🏾

  • @derekhogan9685
    @derekhogan9685 Жыл бұрын

    I do agree the Jedi are heavily flawed in their approach of abandoning their emotions. If the force is life then it's unnatural to deprive yourself of feeling and experiencing life. That flawed view did in fact end them in the clone wars.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, thanks for watching.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. If live isn't even worth living then what's the point? The sith will at least want you to feel something.

  • @crusader2112

    @crusader2112

    21 күн бұрын

    That’s not what the Jedi teach, maybe they lost their way, but the Jedi teach is to control your emotions, but you can still care. Friendships develop and the master-student relationship is a very close almost parent or grandparent or sibling-like depending on how old the master is.

  • @TheEmpressPalpatine
    @TheEmpressPalpatine Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I agree, there are some comparisons between Sith and conservatives; but there are differences as well. Conservatives worship capitalism as a system. They also view work as a religion and look down on people who don't work. A Sith would not love or hate capitalism but just use it as one more tool. A Sith would never do work out of some obligation. They would have to see gain in it. A Sith being a working stiff all their life to collect some crappy paycheck is not something they would do. They are big game hunters not cogs in the wheel of some employer.

  • @chrismenary3340
    @chrismenary3340 Жыл бұрын

    One of the things I find most confusing about Star Wars is what the dark side even is

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    A hotly debated topic indeed. Perhaps I'll do a vid about it later. But I personally believe the mantra of the Gray Jedi, The Force is just The Force, there is no physical Dark Side or Light Side. It's the way a Force sensitive interacts with it which determines whether it be Light or Dark.

  • @blitz3d447

    @blitz3d447

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe it's the user's way of using the force. Light obeys it, while Dark controls it, and harnesses it for power. the grey jedi/users of the force find a kind of balance, while not entirely controlling the force, they can harness its power, while not loosing their rational thinking.

  • @chrismenary3340

    @chrismenary3340

    Жыл бұрын

    The reason the dark side confuses me is because some sources say that it’s the act of taking control over the force itself while other sources say that the dark side controls the user like when Darth Vader wanted to build a castle on Mustafaar and he took a talking helmet that belonged to an ancient Sith Lord named Darth Memnon who gave him the design for the castle and later had a bit of a story there and in the end Memnon told Vader that the sith serve the dark side

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    Honest monster. Devil you now. etc. That's all it is really. People go through phases thoug. The first is always self delusion. Fear in a mask. Like how the jedi fear fear itself. That in itself is fear. And that is why their fear gave others the power over them in reality. Once people stop pretending, anger is often what's next. The sith exploit this to their advantage. There's a phase after that though. That only those most learned obtain. Some of the best sith manage it. The ones that are not angry. The one that go "Well done for beating me" and won't kill you for it. Ever seen a jedi do that?

  • @shawndashno6022

    @shawndashno6022

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the whole point really. It isn't anything. The force is alive. Think of it like air. It's everywhere, touches everything and everyone, but it's not dark, or light for that matter. It simply IS! Now how you use it, is when lines can be drawn. The true Jedi philosophy should simply be, "The force is." Weakening yourself by limiting your knowledge is self defeating, and strengthening only oneself is greed. There are no sides, or rather there shouldn't be. To choose one, is to push away the other, thereby weakening yourself again. "The force, simply, is." The only good thing to come from the sequel trilogy is the single sentence, "Don't join!" Experiment, seek, learn, grow.

  • @wilgreenwood8418
    @wilgreenwood8418 Жыл бұрын

    I find this dissertation carries some weird biases.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks for watching!

  • @evanallen172
    @evanallen172 Жыл бұрын

    First, I gotta gove it to you for writing such a well researched and thoughtful dissertation. Most people who go to bat for the Sith abandon all sense of nuance and end up sounding like Anakin going, "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!", which gets really annoying when were talking about genocidal space nazis. That being said, I still wouldn't classify the Sith's ideology as 'natural'. Sure it's Darwinian, but no natural creature takes their pursuit of self reliance to the extent the Sith do, and i believe that excess is what makes them evil or at least act in evil ways. I've been an avid Star Wars fan since elementary school and I can't recall single instance of a Sith being 'sated' in the same way predators are after a successful hunt. They're constantly pursuing greater power and control, usually over others. This lack of restraint coupled with their equally lacking compassion or selflessness leads to them, pretty much universally, destroying the stability of the ecosystems they exist in, which doesn't seem very natural to me. It would be less like an apex predator hunting to survive and more like a rabid beast attacking anything in its way. This is on top of the fact that Lucas himself has explained that the dark side is inherently a perversion of the Force, which is why it corrupts and destroys those who use it. However, that's not really what your vid was about so I'll simply leave it at evil or not, the Sith are bad guys who ruin the lives of others for personal gain.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @jackwolf3200
    @jackwolf32003 ай бұрын

    Excellent episode. Thanks for sharing.

  • @darthbane3937
    @darthbane39373 ай бұрын

    Plagueis used mind control in his novel. He did it both when he told a child to jump out a window and when he killed a prophet and told her followers to look the other way and he did nothing.

  • @RODRIGAOBARRETO
    @RODRIGAOBARRETOАй бұрын

    Very interesting.... truly.

  • @MrRasheed7
    @MrRasheed7 Жыл бұрын

    Sith ideology is cool for you if you live in the wilderness.. It doesnt work well for a society tho.. Sith ambition had them killing each other for many years.. Its why Revan and Bane boiled the order down to 2 Society grows when people balance competition with cooperation.. That cant happen because "Treachery is the way of the Sith"

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, that's why the Rule of Two was so successful for so long. Sith Ideology works very well, but it must be under the proper circumstances, otherwise it's doomed to fail.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    40% of depression in schools. 63% of gun suicides in texas. People depressed because of "normal" instead of "being your own person". I can gauntee that people that are pushed to fight their own battles in our real world learn to do better and stop claming moral high grounds. The "normal" people remain weak and pathethic. The sith have the right idea. Some might struggle more then others, but if the jedi's idea of living is to not even feel then that's even worse. Soiciety will never be balanced. Ever. People operate on greed. Everyone has an agender. Hotdogs and burgers get pumped of chemicals that destroy DNA. 70% of people gobbling down sleeping pills suffer from dementia. THIS is society. The only way to win is to play by your OWN rules. To not live by the expectations of others. That's what the sith are about. If you want a situation to change then DO something about it. It's made quite clear. The jedi on the other hand would go "Out on your ass" and "we betray your and discard you". The very fact that Dagan wakes up to that only proves it. If you're not going to be there for your own then what's the point? If you stretch yourself too thin and can't do that then one of two things happen. 1: You meant to do it. 2: You're too incapable. Whatever you might think of the sith they get shit done. They don't mess around. They don't stop just because you don't like them. Submit. Fight. Convince. Those are the options. Some of the best sith will go "Well done for beating me" and won't even kill you. Because they would have learned to overcome their anger. That's a phase after anger. After overcoming the self hatred. Even Yoda learned this. He embraced and accepted his dark side. Jedi society wasn't the solution. It was the problem. You can see him doing it in the clone wars show. He accepts and embraces his darker side. Quite literary. Instead of fighting his true nature, like most people do when they remain weak, he accepts it. Knowing the foolishness of black and white viewpoints he becomes a hermit. Obi does too. Noticing the pattern? The most capable are the ones going "Done with common viewpoints". Yoda then teaches Luke. Who learns to not see things in black and white with the test of the Vader illusion. Which pays off when facing the real one. Don't buy into the "soicety" crap. It's designed to keep people down and trapped in the rat race. You're a mindless cog in a machine from bad habits. Or by design. Play the system instead of letting it abuse you. I personally exploit it to my advantage and don't work. I have more time for the things that matter. I don't owe anyone anything. And if you think people are going to buy into that "be selfless "nonense, then all they do is let themselves get taken advantage of. The problem isn't being taken advantage of. People want to be useful. The problem is treating it like a "stranger obligation". It's not. Selflesshness only has a purpose when it's "in your face" directly. And even then, if you do it to "feel good about yourself" then that's ego and pride. Beware the hubris. Some sith know better (not the emperor clearly). Jedi seem to not learn that lesson as much though. The problem is ego. Pride is what will get you. Funny how it works really. The jedi got wipeed out for their pride. Then the emperor did. I think the death star was a test to see if they'd try to beat him at his own game. He actually wants to lose. Sith get let down when they're not betrayed. So when Vader yeeted Sidious I bet he was glad even if he fell. "Finally. He finally did it."

  • @-westman3619

    @-westman3619

    9 ай бұрын

    It doesn't work in the wilderness either. The mother who eats her weak cubs is the mother starving because her pride has or environment could not support her. The projection of competition and hierarchy onto everything in nature makes you miss most of the important bits if you ask me. And if being boiled down to just two is the pinnacle of success cause it is impossible to survive as a group, that would tend to be considered a bad bad survival rate.

  • @ManAcajabon-fp8ty
    @ManAcajabon-fp8ty3 ай бұрын

    Let's not forget that Palpatine used deception to lure Anakin to the dark side. Paplatine also killed our sent others to kill for him. It's against nature to take life. Lucas said the difference of the Sith and the Jedi was because they were influenced by anger fear and hate which all lead to suffering. The Sith were after pleasure while Luke was influenced by Joy. He depended on others for his survival. Palpatine was overconfident in himself and only believed in the dark side. Luke depended on his friends and others to rescue him like he did with Han Solo and Princess Leia. Palpitatine depended only in himself and thought he was invincible that no one could overthrow him. He didn't think that Vader could be moved enough to care about his son. So reverting back to being Conservative and Liberal, Vader went back to his cub who seemed weak for depending on him for his survival against Palpatine. Vader saved his cub who was in danger by the predator

  • @ScipioAmericanus__
    @ScipioAmericanus__ Жыл бұрын

    I’m impressed

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @monbrat3064
    @monbrat30649 ай бұрын

    New subscriber now Amazing video

  • @user-mq5ln9tm8c
    @user-mq5ln9tm8c27 күн бұрын

    Don't forget, a True Sith was a species, not just a point of view

  • @sentaukrai
    @sentaukrai Жыл бұрын

    Some interesting concepts, though perhaps a bit lacking. I’d certainly agree that the Sith are represent something more primal and impulsive then their Jedi counterparts. However I think you’ve not given enough towards the angle of their corruption. While their goals may initially be altruistic or with good intentions they tend to share a common trait. Succumbing to greed. Enough is never enough. Be it knowledge, time, wealth, etc. This type of hoarding is not seen in nature. Animals generally take what they need and little more. Jedi ideology teaches the opposite, where you should only desire enough to maintain yourself. Also worth noting that Luke fits the description more accurately as a “grey Jedi” or to use political terms, an independent.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @kevinbaumhoer7359

    @kevinbaumhoer7359

    Жыл бұрын

    you mean how the Jedaii originally there . both the Jedi and Sith are extremints in the force originally there was no jedi or Sith just the Jedaii these preached balance of the force only after the Rakkatan infinite empire appear the first dark jedi there born as the lightsabers the Rakkants used there powered by the Dark Side

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    Animals do get greedy. Ever heard of magpies? How about how rat infestations that devour grain and ruin food stocks? A full predator will still not eat a deer nearby though. If only because it's full already. A deer turning around to run into the lion shows courage. It doesn't get eaten. Animals and people have more in common then you think. We ARE the animals. People just tend to not see it in animals because they're too busy looking at themselves when they self project.

  • @sentaukrai

    @sentaukrai

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@taramaforhaikido7272 Magpies collect items to attract mates, not for their personal use or desire. At best its comparable to humans being suitable to support a mate with a stable job, house, etc. It's not excessive hoarding or greed. Nor is an animal operating on a base instinct such as hunger. Gorging does not equate to hoarding. At best you could reference animals storing food for winter seasons. Still doesn't equate to constant desires for more and more, more then anyone could ever use in a single (or multiple) lifetime(s). Also...a deer facing a lion doesnt get eaten? What bs is that, of course it would. Also not relevant to my original comment.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sentaukrai Think of a venus fly trap like money. It's tempting. It's there. SNAP! It's like the rat race. The "bait" doesn't really matter. What matters is that it's a temptation. They set traps. Just like people luring you in and playing you for fools. If you think the deer is odd how the hell does a PLANT learn this? Nature is more strange then I thought. The difference with humans is that there's the "money trap". Male magpie shows shiny shiny. female falls for bait. Animals have their own traps. It's there. You want it. For whatever reason. Is it "honest" or "a trap"? Or even both. Doesn't have to get you killed. It's true about the deer. The deer turned around and faced the lion. Birds coexist with cats too. It's like how people will face bullies and don't let themselves get bullied. If you're prey then it's because of fear. Show you're fearless then instead they get baffled and confused. But not confused enough that things are unclear. So it's an "honest situation". They can't intimidate you. They''re not THAT hungry. Suddenly you're "really different". Not like the others at all. So what else can they do other then look at you and go "Ok. Hi there." It is relevant. It proves humans and animals are more alike then people think. Your argument was about the difference between jedi/sith and animals. And therefor I am presenting evidence about how they're more alike then people think. You're just trying to dismiss it because of your trust issues. You didn't ask or try to find out or do your own research. I actually go out of my way to find the proof. It might not happen often (because, let's face it, such fearless creatures are rare anywhere) but it's there. And when people like you dismiss such fearless courage then it's no wonder it's not common enough. You can be wrong and are. I know the truth, I know what I saw with my own two eyes. It was also recorded. People think they need more money. That's the trap. It's bait. Animals and even plants lay bait too. Set traps. Ants will expand and even enslave other ants. They actually do that (yea, it surprised me too). They want more. They want to expand. Because their numbers get that large. Most other animals (or insects. etc) don't have those kind of numbers. Hence why you won't see it as much there. Humans enslaved people once. Still do even. Like sith and jedi. Except the jedi kidnap you at a young age. JUST like these ants do. Remind you of anyone? Anakin. Or any other youngling really. If you don't see animals and insects doing what people do then you're not looking hard enough. We're all biological beings. Thinking is only useful when it has a use. How to tell fact fom fiction? How to tell between irrational fear and expectations, and honesty with reality? There's only one way to remind anyone about honesty. Subvert their expectations. Become Jack Sparrow doing the most strange yet honest thing. Let yourself be a target. It's what Jack actually does. It works well. It works in real life too. Provided it's done correctly. It will work with people. It will work with animals. Just got to make sure the "honesty" remains intact while not coming across as "a threat". While showing courage and being fearless. That's the formula. One wrong move and you're toast. What is one of those wrong moves? Hesitation. So you don't have time to think either. ACT. Even if you die anyway at least you try. The difference is control. Turn it around to your advantage. It's always possible. But it requires quick and decisive action. Without rushing and giving into desperation (hence while impatience is folly). Fear is that desperation. Being a coward thinking only of yourself and yourself alone. It garuntees a hunt. Ensures a kill. So what else can you do instead? Turn around and look death right in the eye. Provided it's done without fear (and I really do mean one has to have ZERO fear) then it works. The slighest whiff of fear, the slightest hint, any sign of doubt or hesitation and that's Vader striking you down with a saber. That's the shark smelling blood in the water. You got to make EVERY right move here. Or you're dead. I'm also speaking as somoene that's stared down the barrels of guns and played with people that want to stab me. So it's why I looked it in nature more. How brave does a bird have to be to land in a crocadiles jaws to clean its teeth? Life is full of BS mate. Learn to enjoy it. Or you're just wallowing in it. Having no fear means you are in control. The moment you hesitate is the moment to rethink. In this case the lion hesitated and could only stand and stare. It expected a hunt. The deer, this deer specifically, it was 100% fearless and 100% inquisitive. Quite calmly Looking at you. Finding the lion interesting. It's... interested in you. Yea, how can you kill that? Even Vader can't kill that. He tried with Luke. It didn't work. When something comes over to you and looks you right in the eye then how can you not pause and rethink? It's pretty hard to argue against that. Just leave the good intentions behind. That's what will set the sith off.

  • @blackaua
    @blackaua5 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say what you're describing is conservatism, but rather an extreme form of individualism. Maybe even objectivism.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    5 ай бұрын

    Conservativism is individualism...

  • @blackaua

    @blackaua

    5 ай бұрын

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804 Not necessarily. Conservatism is a big house.

  • @TheWayoftheSith
    @TheWayoftheSith2 ай бұрын

    Kaans Brotherhood was weak. The Jedi merely cooperate. Groups tend to cooperate for the abstract principles propogated by their order. While this has some advantages like providing for the needs of everyone in a similar manner by sharing resources, ensuring survival of its weakest members, and getting everyone to provide towards something that can benefit the group in some way like it's reputation or popularity. The problem is with that is that it assumes everyone has the same needs and wants. And while cooperative grouos share in some distribution of the material gain, this ultimately allows their weakest members to weaken the group, weigh it down with ignorance, laziness, entitlement and arrogance. Competition forces everyone not neccesarily always to work together but only sometimes if one another interests align, and the great number of the rewards are given to those that earn it based on merit. Like aptitude and skill. Those who desire more and are ambitious leave a cooperative because hard to determine through group work who gets what or because the philosophical goals are too abstract, so it's not obvious who puts in the most work and who is doing the best. Competition also culls the weak, removes them from the order of things if they prove to be incompetent or just lazy. Someone with alot of weaknesses are ultimately exposed and removed through competitive struggle and challenges. Sith therefore are somewhat ruthless and don't tolerate foolishness or passive and subservient behaviour if they cannot directly benefit from it. Sith will prune those who refuse to build themselves up, but on the brighter side they keep their group strong and freed from certain limitations. The pack is potentially only as strong as the wolf, the wolf is potentially only strong as the pack. Thus Sith value the rule of two because power concentrated in one, while the other merely craves it and seeks the strength, the power and the knowledge. As all people wish to have these things. The master is meant to be the gap between the apprentice and his true self. That's what masters, gurus and coaches. Competition thus selects for the most strong/best or the most cunning. The Sith also value power or competence the most. This means that victory is always about potential, spirit or destiny. Cooperation doesn't select for strength and perfection, it breeds mediocrity, contentment and passivity. They also don't create a collective victory as some would think. They share victory is untrue. They breed less envy but envy is what makes one wish to be greater and too provide enough incentive to yearn for the reality whrkere power can be yours. If all are equal, then none are strong as Darth Bane said. But also, if all cooperate then none are ambitious since what earned is only wlquanitively because that is only thing that can be proportioned out. Only the most abstract goals can be said to be said to be "gained by all". How victory really works is the best get to embody the power so much so that they are given the proper recognition and accolades, whose leadership, spirit, character and dynamism gets to be the proof that mere abstractions cannot replicate, to provide the widespread rewards or the benefits of power securing victory. You cannot mimic the rewards of inner control, discipline, sacrifice, duty, devotion, perseverance, determination and personal ambitions for instance. Cooperation claims to benefit all but really without such tangible Sith benefits it really has no one truly powerful to boast of the merit of one's principles, rules or ideals. These can only be claimed by a true Darth or a Sith lord who has undergone being tried, tested and proven, ie training and challenges. Otherwise victory has no substance and that all members can win is vapid and a false delusion propogated by the Jedi minded.

  • @jamessullivan5338
    @jamessullivan5338 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video! I'm now a subscriber. Both the Jedi and the Sith are remiss in their failure to prioritize having offspring. The Shakers were a celibate religious group that went extinct, like the Jedi. The Jedi Order was built on suicidal, unnatural ideals destined to die. Only the Sith live in accordance with natural law. The Sith would have benefitted from choosing to be Patriarchs. In my opinion, nature is the manifestation of God's will therefore the natural law of predators preying on the weak as well as perceiving prey as resources to be exploited is God's will. I'd like you to consider the possibility that flooding drugs into an environment, while spreading the mind virus of Wokism, and disease serves the interests of those that wish to cull the herd of the unhealthy gnostics, namely the psychologically weak. After the fall of civilization, far-right Conservativism will rise!

  • @gavinlinville9691

    @gavinlinville9691

    7 ай бұрын

    Dam straight.

  • @waltdzl8655
    @waltdzl86552 ай бұрын

    But hey! It’s just a Theory!

  • @thesanfranciscoseahorse473
    @thesanfranciscoseahorse4732 ай бұрын

    I think the Sith are far more accurately comparable to Communists. Real life Communists, not the fantasy ideals they espouse. Tyrannical dictators that rise to power through the guise of "peace and stability", while in reality it's about concentrating absolute power in the hands of a very few individuals. Manipulating the masses through the promise of safety and security and peace, while using fear as a tool to conquer. Conservatives aren't big on "big government". I feel they would be more comparable to gray Jedi like Quigon. Not wanting to be controlled by tyranny or corporate overreach, they're more like the Mandalorians. A warrior-culture mindset but very much a "just leave us alone to do our thing" culture.

  • @gst4637
    @gst4637 Жыл бұрын

    Sith are extreme (to the point of murderous & sociopathic tendencies & or lifestyle) devotion to a Nietzsche esque beliefs

  • @overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779
    @overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779 Жыл бұрын

    Wrong question. The reason he's asking the wrong question is obvious, It's the same reason Jedi fan boys never ask the question. I don't know if he's really that biased, or just trying to sound edgy. Why in the world would he map Sith ideology over his own political ideology if the goal is to be objective? Anyone watching this didn't need told he was conservative, As, it's very clear he gets his idea impartiality from years of Fox News, or Breitbart. Which explains seeing the space fascists as heroes. Objective person only interested in actually knowing the truth would ask why this keeps happening on both sides.

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching 😆

  • @fhetty

    @fhetty

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly what a piss drinking Leftist would say, lol. I bet this clown can't even define fascism, let alone tell anybody it's true function. He clearly lays out that the Sith are not fascists but a representation of nature in it's most raw form, unless this roach considers nature itself to be fascist. You might try hopping off MSNBC for a while Gomer, it's rotted your brain on Commie propaganda.

  • @Captain_Insano_nomercy

    @Captain_Insano_nomercy

    Жыл бұрын

    You sound big mad! 😬

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    What does fox news or breitbar have to do with this? Your only accurate complaint was fascists as heroes. Hitler saved a jew and tried to cancel the gas chamebers btw. It was HImmler that did that. Not Hitler. In fact Hitler's own command tried to kill him with that suitcase bomb. He's a prisoner. You try to save people you care about? Someone in your side is taking issue with it. Both jedi and sith alike. Jedi and sith fight themselves. Not just each other. I think people overlook this. It's probably what Sidious means when he says they're alike. You're as bad as each other. Sith just pretend less.

  • @paulzulu34
    @paulzulu34 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry I disagree with you there. The Sith are evil. Look at how many people Vader killed. Besides the younglings, he killed a number of civilians while hunting for kenobi. Look at all the innocent people killed on Alderan by the Empire. Let’s also not forget about how Palpatine manipulated Anakin with the promise of saving Padme . How did that work out?!

  • @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    @penaltyofdeathproductions5804

    Жыл бұрын

    When taking over a pride, male lions kill all the cubs of the previous ruling male. Not only to make room for they're own genes, but to eliminate the legacy of their rivals. Would you by the same token call a lion evil? Vader killed the Jedi younglings for exactly the same reason. He behaved as any predatory animal would out in nature. He doesn't kill just for the sake of killing. With most Sith there is method to the madness.

  • @stygianoatman

    @stygianoatman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@penaltyofdeathproductions5804 There's plenty of examples to the contrary, though. Did Palpatine have to torture Luke in RotJ? He knew that he couldn't turn Luke, the reason he tortured Luke was because he wanted to. Palpatine had the advantage, Luke posed no threat at the moment, and there was no gain to torturing him since Luke would never turn. It's not the first time a Jedi died stubborn like that. So Palpatine should've just killed Luke quickly. To use your analogy of a lion, it'd usually just bite the throat of prey or maul it, in one motion. Speaking of mauling, did Maul have to seek revenge against Kenobi? Obviously, self defense is important, but Maul wasn't acting out of self defense, he spent over a decade searching for Obi Wan. That is the pure definition of killing for the sake of killing. Yet another example, Darth Vader killed pretty much everyone who saw his face. He was notorious for going through admirals left and right. Did he have to do any of that? Those officers were still loyal to the empire. Sure, they failed sometimes, but ultimately Vader was doing it because they looked at him the wrong way, or said something insulting to the force. And the empire proves that quantity is better than quality, so killing officers even if they are less competent, makes little sense. At least when we see it happening. Jedha was another case of the Sith killing for the sake of it. Sure, it was to test the Death Star, but ultimately they didn't need to test it. They already planned to use it on the Rebel base home world, when they found out wherever it was. Rather than destroying part of a planet AND Alderaan, they could have just destroyed Alderaan. So once again, that was unnecessary. They could have used ground troops more effectively, to lest disaster. Vader also killed Padme. Why? She posed no immediate threat to him. He felt betrayed, sure, but Padme still posed no threat to him as the most powerful force user at the time. His attention should have been on Obi Wan. Instead, he chokes his pregnant wife, so to his knowledge he killed multiple people, his own children which were innocent. This wasn't self defense, and there was nothing to gain.

  • @taramaforhaikido7272

    @taramaforhaikido7272

    Жыл бұрын

    70% of people gobbling down sleeping pills get dementia from good intentions. 40% of depression in schools because of good intentions. People living a lie and being desperate for fun and happiness only to end up in depression and despar because of "Just see good". Fake smiles and happy masks. Seeing what people want/expect to see. What if good is the problem? At least with evil you know where you stand. No BS. No pretending. Just straight up facts of "Be strong or suffer the price". That or submit and be useful somehow.

  • @gavinlinville9691

    @gavinlinville9691

    7 ай бұрын

    because we are human@@stygianoatman

  • @stygianoatman

    @stygianoatman

    7 ай бұрын

    @@gavinlinville9691 I have no idea which part of my comment you're referring to lol. Yes, we're human. Sith see themselves as beyond that, which was essentially my point. They believe they're the best and if they ever fail to impose their will over others, they "deserve it"