i had the exact same thought about him. it's the "effortlessness", the gracefulness in his stride, the ease of his movements that make people think he's not as good as he really is. you watch nabers and every moment seems forceful/impactful and so people assume he must be a more dynamic player but i wonder if it's not that simple. harrison just seems like he's gliding through air, and nabers seems like he's chopping wood.

Why is everyone ignoring that MHJ was tracked at over 22 MPH vs Youngstown St this year? Watch his long TD vs WKU this year and tell me "the long speed isn't elite." When he needs to open it up he absolutely can, but he also played the majority of this season on an injured ankle after the ND game.

@joeterzio7175

2 ай бұрын

Youngstown State and Western Kentucky, huh?

@MG93333

2 ай бұрын

@@joeterzio7175how does the opponent matter when evaluating a player’s speed? You don’t run a 40 against any opponents but that number is glorified. Game speed is game speed.

@123shoshan

2 ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell is better

@robertlazimbat5943

2 ай бұрын

@@123shoshanplease go actually watch some tape. He has potential to be a good player he’s not half as good as the top 3 prospects rn

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

@@joeterzio7175 what? he wont run the same speed against alabama or georgia? snarky ahh comment stfu

Easy to fall in love with Nabers' explosiveness. But, I can remember a long list of wide receivers that were explosive and killed it in college and never panned out in the NFL. MHJ just already looks like a 5 year vet and checks all the boxes physically and everyone says his work ethic and desire to be great are unparalleled.

I think Josh is spot on when he notes that MHJ does everything so cleanly that it's easy to overlook him. It's easier for Nabers to "wow" you with speed, but at the end of the day I think MHJ is such a jack of all trades that he should firmly be WR1

@chiefw3573

2 ай бұрын

Wr with elite explosion like Tyreek Hill, Mega-Tron, Randy Moss are typical the ones who game breakers. Not the jack of all trades imo. I’ll take elite explosion.

@matthewarrojas5183

2 ай бұрын

​@chiefw3573 totally agree that Nabers could end up WR1 by the end of their rookie contracts. Personally, I just lean MHJ at this point based on what I saw from him in college and I feel like there's a lot less project there, but I totally get why ppl would want to take the upside swing with Nabers

@J..P..

2 ай бұрын

​@@chiefw3573Marv is plenty explosive enough. And I can cherry pick wrs as well. Justin Jefferson, Larry Fitz, Reggie Wayne, Anquan Bolden and Jerry Rice.

@Flirken1

2 ай бұрын

@@chiefw3573the greatest WRs ever ran a 4.71 and 4.63 40 times respectively. Rice and fitz is who I’m talking about. Explosiveness will only get you so far, ask Dez Bryant. Without his speed, Tyreek is mid. His route running is nothing special. Run blocking and route running and durability are far more important characteristics for receivers to have. How did that explosiveness work out for John Ross? Randy moss and megatron weren’t just explosive, they were giants, who could run fast, catch everything, and run routes, run block, etc. explosiveness is just a bonus.

@troy8231

2 ай бұрын

@@chiefw3573agree. The top WRs in the NFL always have elite speed but everyone knows that’s what MH Jr is lacking.

As a Giants fan, I am glad MHJ was drafted to the Cardinals. He has a real QB and will not be running routes in vain. The Giants drafted Malik Nabers, and this poor kid is doomed to failure. I am also a Wolverines fan, and I watched MHJ knife through that D like butter when no one else could. Congrats, Arizona. You guys drafted a HELL of a player and person.

@Omnideus_

Ай бұрын

Thank you brotha, respect 🫡

McCord is catching mad strays in some of these Marv eval. videos 🤣🤣 Kyle wasn't awful at tOSU, he was just a few levels down from CJ.

@123shoshan

2 ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell will have more success in nfl than Marvin Harrison

Finally, I've been waiting for this one

Great segment

Im taking nabers just because of the explosive and elusive traits. I love them both and it feels like choosing between AJ Green and Jamar Chase. Cant loose either way, just prefer Nabers

@braydenschmidtke171

2 ай бұрын

Nabers feels more like AB to me than Jamarr

Looks pretty clear he’s the #1 NFL receiver prospect. Maybe more of a debate if he or Nabers is the #1 fantasy receiver prospect.

I’ve been waiting for this Let’s goooo

Anyone who doesn’t have him as WR1 doesn’t know ball. He’s the best prospect in the whole class

@SouthernCodester91

Ай бұрын

Raised by a respected hall of famer. This guys linage is unreal lol.

Damn, feels like you guys are pusing Rome Odunze out of the No1 conversation and only talking Harrison vs Nabers.. I mean not just you, other people in the media too but I really don't think he should be overlooked, wouldn't surprise me if he ends up as the best one.

@williamhermann6635

2 ай бұрын

Odunze doesnt belong anywhere near the #1 spot. MHJ is #1 and Nabers/Thomas Jr. are 2A/2B. I dont even have Odunze in my top 5. Hes a great college player whos really good at a lot of things, but he doesnt separate and if youre a big guy who cant separate youre basically Allen Lazard. Those guys are a dime a dozen. Odunze can be a nice player in the league but if youre taking a receiver anywhere near the top 10 that dude better be a borderline generational player. Odunze is far from a generational talent.

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

odunze isnt close to nabers and mhj tho. there is a clear gap separating them. and odunze is good fs but nabers and harrison are just different

@mxfilms9738

Ай бұрын

Well any of them can end up the best one stays wise if they end up with a better qb. That matters as much as their ability

Rome and Marvin the true x WRs. Nabers is a dj Moore. Give me Rome and Marvin

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

....and how is moore not a true x wr? cuz he isnt a pure slot. In this era u got amon ra st brown and cooper kupp being true alphas from the slot. Gimme marvin and then nabers ahead of rome. besides its not like nabers is small, he is 6ft w 4.35 speed and had success on the outside in college. zero indication of him not being able to be a "true" x.

I got him as Larry Fitzgerald. Tall and lanky but literally catches everything.

@sufjams

Ай бұрын

Marv is gonna have a great career with Kyler. Look what Kyler was able to do with a high point receiver like Hop? And like they said Marv is 2 inches taller and faster.

@SouthernCodester91

Ай бұрын

He is much better than Larry coming out of the draft, I love Fitz but even Fitz agrees that MHJ is a far better athlete and talent. He is going to be special!

@sufjams

Ай бұрын

@@SouthernCodester91 Fitz is Fitz because the work ethic and grind never died down in him. If MHJ has 80% of that focus he could be one of the GOATs.

A lock for the HOF

I’m glad we sucked this year because I haven’t been this excited over a Cardz player being drafted in awhile. 😂

Can’t wait to seem him crush the nfl

Let herbert get bis WR1!!!

I think Malik nabers is better because I am a lsu fan and I watched him irl That is my unbiased expert opinion

One thing that bugs me that I keep seeing about MHJ, they’re saying his yac has improved but there’s context to that. He had 5 missed tackles forced last year. His yac is not from making guys miss or running over guys, it’s simply from beating worse competition deep down the field and scoring long tds.

Uh that QB is solid af

I think it’s a bit of recency bias to say that he’s safer than Amari Cooper. I know he’s been good/solid rather than great but Amari had a hell of a profile. Early production, athletic, dominance, competition etc were all there for Amari. Harrison JR. might have a better career but Coopers profile was as good as anyone’s.

eh nabers looks like lighting i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the best

Dang, keep that helmet on.

Bear

I hate being a bears fan.

He definitely is special but no way in hell I’m taking him in the WR12-15 range as a rookie.

@ricardorivera7549

Ай бұрын

im fs doing it. wr12-wr15 is fourth or third round territorry.im confidently taking marv there. i would take him above the like of devonta smith, keenan allen (mainly cuz idk how he, odunze and moore will split targets), olave, dk, etc

@Grandeur023

Ай бұрын

@@ricardorivera7549 I’d take him in round 4. Unfortunately he’s been going in round 2 of best ball drafts. He goes right around Drake London currently. That is too high imo.

Malik Neighbors: 4.35-second 40-yard dash at Tigers Pro Day. Marvin Harrison Jr.: has refused to run a 40.

@jackpabich763

2 ай бұрын

And?

@justinalley3399

2 ай бұрын

NFL teams told Marvin not too work out at the combine

@mattr791

2 ай бұрын

If only we had a way to measure a players actual speed during games... y'know some kind of gps chip in their pads that could give better insight than a track event

@joeterzio7175

2 ай бұрын

@@justinalley3399 That came from his camp. "Teams didn't want me to run." With how thorough the draft process is do you really believe that NFL teams don't want a 40 time on a perfectly healthy wide receiver who is going to be taken in the top 10 of the draft, probably top 5? Stop falling for the nonsense. Of course they want a 40 time on him.

@bay0udoteth

2 ай бұрын

​@@joeterzio7175The only one falling for nonsense is you. 😂😂. Nabers had to run the 40 to solidify his draft spot over Rome Odunze. MHJr didnt have to do anything at all and is still solidified as the #1 WR of the class.

Frame is too small for his size, needs to add bulk, and goes down on 1st contact, will be good, not great

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

this will go down as a cold turkey take

people really compared Nabers to this guy

@stevekaufmann8109

2 ай бұрын

yea nabers is lightning steve smith says he's 1b to mhj and i agree i wouldn't be surprised if he is the better pro he is so difficult to stay with.

He’s should be picked no.2 overall. Teams dumb enough to reach for a qb not named Caleb, is laughable.

@quinnmath4722

2 ай бұрын

I know lol, it’s funny that people are going ahead of him. Just passing up on a hall of famer

@reasonablegentleman

2 ай бұрын

Watching Marcus Mariota waste Harrison, McLaurin and Doston would be maddening.

Sounds like Harrison is safe and maxed out. Nabors is faster, more explosive, and more productive as an unpolished player, and has plenty of room to improve even more. Nabors is WR1.

@CoopDaSnoop

2 ай бұрын

Maxed out 💀 he’s only 21

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

lmao maxed out. nabers is not unpolished. u clearly dont watch film. prolly just heard nabers runs a fast 40 and thought that like most fast college players he only wins w speed. he is a complete WR as well. marvin is less explosive but even more polished and has much better frame and ball skills.

@ricardorivera7549

2 ай бұрын

@@CoopDaSnoop fr bro thinks MHJ reached his peak at 21 ☠ bro is STILL growing lmao

@kylanvanemmerik9397

Ай бұрын

Maxed out?? Lol he's the MOST polished wr to come out of the draft in 20 years 😂

@Sandviper9322

Ай бұрын

Nabers had 1 good season, MHJ proved it over 3 years. Nabers MAY be the better college WR but MHJ is the better nfl wr out the gate. Nabers makes catches that look unreal but he barely gets a foot inbounds, MHJ always stays to the point of being to get 2 feet inbounds while being an elite route runner.

Malik Nabers will rise to the top like all other LSU Rs have in the NFL. It is hard to believe how Harrison was chosen over Malik for the Bilitnakoff award when Nabers had most yards. Your blog is not acceptable.

@bradwillis6591

2 ай бұрын

Nabers had the Heisman winner under center, MHJ had a glorified high school QB and still put up numbers

It would be hilarious if he was a bust. Everyone already putting him into the NFL hall of fame.

I don’t see him run angry after the catch. Kind of reminds me of Calvin Ridley or Jerry Judy. A player with great technical skill that lacks the fire to help u win. Not working out at the combine is a red flag 🚩

@nicolastomas8436

2 ай бұрын

There’s always nitpickers lol

@joeterzio7175

2 ай бұрын

@@nicolastomas8436 Why hasn't he run a 40 at all during the pre-draft process? You know why.

@chevy4x466

2 ай бұрын

@@joeterzio7175 he didn’t have to, I get it. But it speaks to privilege and entitlement of a kid that has had all the breaks growing up. Let’s see what happens when he has to earn something.

@chevy4x466

2 ай бұрын

@@nicolastomas8436 he grew up privileged, he passed on the combine cuz he doesn’t think he has to do everything normal people do. I think he has the curse of the gifted.

@hack.nicklaus

2 ай бұрын

you won worst take of the day congrats, he's easily the best receiver you don't risk injury for the underwear olympics, and with GPS tracking you already have more valuable speed data, he clocked in at 21.7 MPH with a Top 3 & 5 average speed of 21.6 MPH and 21.3 MPH, meaning he frequently reaches well into the 21 MPH mark which is elite speed

Maybe one of these "draft experts" can explain why Harrison hasn't run a 40-yard-dash at all in the pre-draft process. You don't run for one reason, you're slower than expected.

@edgarorozco3513

2 ай бұрын

Did you know its 2024 and every player has a GPS on them every practice AND game? He was clocked at 22.2mph Faster than any speed recorded in the ENTIRE NFL last season

@Peter-yo2wm

2 ай бұрын

Ur actually a fool. And anyone who skips Harrison with the first pick is just as foolish as u.

@hack.nicklaus

2 ай бұрын

you don't run because you don't need to, you're easily the best receiver and with GPS tracking you already have data, he clocked in at 21.7 MPH with a Top 3 & 5 average speed of 21.6 MPH and 21.3 MPH, meaning he frequently reaches well into the 21 MPH mark which is elite speed

@kona7043

2 ай бұрын

If he's never run in blocks and doesn't care to train for it since it's a literal useless skill in the NFL. I'd ignore it too.

@joeterzio7175

2 ай бұрын

@@edgarorozco3513 No, they don't have GPS chips on them. Reel Analytics estimates speed based on game film and it's just not very accurate. There are no GPS chips. And what would a top speed prove anyway? Imagine you're a downfield threat versus someone who is more of a possession receiver? Who do you think is going to have the higher speed measurements? No, there is an established benchmark to measure acceleration and speed and it's the 40 yard dash and Harrison doesn't want to run it. Period.

Boy got ktfo in that UGA too lol