Marvels Darkest Story Ever Made
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Marvel Ruins written by Warren Ellis and Art by Cliff Nielsen Terese Nielsen and Chris Moeller
Marvel Ruins covers a What if take on the Marvel universe where everything went horribly wrong and a Reporter feels as though the world could’ve been Greater.
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The reason why Galactus body is just floating in space its because after Silver Surfer ripped himself appart, he didn't have someone to help him finding new worlds to eat and died of hunger
@looniemoonie5955
Жыл бұрын
Why he didn't just eat Earth tho? There was nobody to protect it, no Avengers, no X-Men, no Fantastic Four
@shanbogard9361
Жыл бұрын
@@looniemoonie5955 didnt the silver surfer find earth first and tell galactus? So then without his help galactus wouldnt have been able to find earth in time
@mecojean4119
Жыл бұрын
@@shanbogard9361 Yeah, maybe by the time he came to the solar system he became just a floating dead body in space
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
That's not how that works
@jakeleviathan6724
Жыл бұрын
This befuddles the absolute shit out of me because Galactus is one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse (depending on the iteration/ issue/ author and on how satiated he is). Furthermore, Galactus literally cannot die, sure, Thor killed him, but he was revived. Galactus cannot die. He is "fated" to see the end of the universe and be reborn in the next. During his fight with Odin, he was able to fight telepathically and telekinetically: he could find Earth using his mind even if he was on the other side of the universe. HE CAN FLY SEVERAL TIMES FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. There is no way that he wouldn't have been able to find Earth and consume it before he died.
Its so creepy how peters disease is meant to look like his spider suit in a way.
@Delsin42
Жыл бұрын
There's actually a canonically reason for that
@snipingsussy6684
Жыл бұрын
Jjaden1277, what’s the reason?
@marcussantos4816
Жыл бұрын
I just noticed that on his arm and when his hand is in the same gesture when he’s about to shoot a web.
@lucky_shot5989
Жыл бұрын
@@marcussantos4816 yeah I realized that to. Weird
@ProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
@@lucky_shot5989 yeah
I don't know why, but galactus floating in space dead is the funniest thing ever.
@Shadow30.
Жыл бұрын
Like let him hill god damn
@alexkyrylivk5102
Жыл бұрын
Peak comedy 😄
@reggyjohnson9083
Жыл бұрын
Eh hem Marvel Zombies Dark resurrection
@anirudhashok3332
Жыл бұрын
is THAT a JoJO REFERENCE
@elguerotapatio9258
Жыл бұрын
Honestly ye, like Silver Surfer really fucked up missing all those planets lmao
goddamn the art in this comic is insane
@purpkoi5481
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why there is a sudden change in styles tho but i agree
@lesigh3410
Жыл бұрын
It's the one thing I can say without a doubt is great about the comic.
@UltimateSpiderMan
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Max Payne
@user-sg5ii6zy1q
Жыл бұрын
Ong
@joshuagraham2843
Жыл бұрын
@@UltimateSpiderMan naah its like the boys but more realistic okay you’re right it is max payne 1
I feel if Thanos existed in Ruins his attempt at doing the snap just ends in the entire universe being destroyed.
@Zminator1986
Жыл бұрын
Probably this Thanos became a leader of a death cult and either went in a goose chase for the infinity stones that don't exist or he finds them but upon getting them all together in the gauntlet vaporized him and his cult due to a power serge or something.
@bubwubs9532
Жыл бұрын
Tbh with the theme of Ruins in mind when Thanos was born his society probably didn’t accept him and his differences like they do in the main continuity. They probably studied and experimented on him just like the government with banner.
@shinygekkouga52
Жыл бұрын
I imagine he would find the stones with no resistance, but the energy they emit when he uses them kills him before he puts this world out of its misery
@inactivcanalnouindescriere7860
Жыл бұрын
Or his mother succesfully killed him.
@iamthemouse4483
Жыл бұрын
"I call it a mercy."
Marvel ruins would make for the perfect stand alone R rated movie
@rememberthatoneshow3216
Жыл бұрын
@@christianosanjo if the writing is good this could work
@daveninava
Жыл бұрын
Remember that one show Yeah It could be awesome and Dark In the same time
@Skullei
Жыл бұрын
you don't even need the same actors. just similar ones
@rememberthatoneshow3216
Жыл бұрын
@@Skullei yeah lol
@gunilive781
Жыл бұрын
disney would never
I do think it's interesting that there actually appears to be no magic in this universe. All the magic based heroes are just insane people.
@theshakespearencow1945
Жыл бұрын
i would definetly like to see what happened to doctor strange in this video
@MAGNUSWAKERS
Жыл бұрын
@@theshakespearencow1945 I can come up with a simple yet effective one - Doctor Strange in the RUINS universe is a doctorate of phyiscs and upon inventing interdimensional travel, he accidently exposes himself to the field inadvertently proving teleportation but killing himself via quantum displacement.
@saftoguy2133
Жыл бұрын
@@theshakespearencow1945 he probably just is the same as he was in his backstory, a sad, broken surgeon who cant do what he loves anymore because his hands are destroyed
@luminification
Жыл бұрын
I'd be willing to bet that in ruins, Nepal is in a religious purging and completely ruined the school of mystic arts cause of heresy and witchcraft, or that the school of mystic arts is some king of murder sect that completely brainwashed strange or straight out killed him.
@d.n5287
Жыл бұрын
@@MAGNUSWAKERS or he just dies in his car crash like how Daredevil got killed by his radioactive truck.
Just for some people's information: Ruins was actually released as a sort of dark reflection, a parody, of the Comic Miniseries "Marvels", which is a magnificent 4-issue short story depicting the entire 616 Marvel Comic Universe from the point of view of a regular civilian, a reporter named Phil Sheldon. it's actually a really great miniseries and I always recommend that all fans should read this at least once in their life time. So yeah, if you're thinking, this is just so obviously trying to be edgy and dark, you're right! it's just supposed to be a sort of joke story parodying a better story. Ruins didn't even get 4 issues like Marvels did, it only got 2 issues. that should tell you how seriously you should take this story.
@DarkPascual
Жыл бұрын
I've read Ruins (friends recommendation), but never read Marvels (I'm a bit more of a DC guy), so I guess I'll search for it. Sounds like Marvel's response to Kingdom Come.
@RaixsOreh
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkPascual actually funny thing, Kingdom Come and Marvels' Art were both handled by Alex Ross! so if you loved Kingdom Come, You'll love Marvels. also: if anything, Kingdom Come is DC's answer to Marvels, as Marvels was Published in 1994 and Kingdom Come was in 1996. but they're both amazing comics. The Main Difference between the two is more of how the story is laid out, as Marvels is more of a throwback to the history of Marvel, while Kingdom Come is like looking forward, since it deals with the future.
@Lookathisshiteatinggrin
Жыл бұрын
@@RaixsOreh i think i will take this comic very seriously, think you for the information bro 👍
@Mr_Flerb
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkPascual Other way around. Marvels came first, Kingdom Come rode the coattails.
@rayres1074
Жыл бұрын
Okay, if this is the case then it's a VERY important piece of context that OP should not have missed when describing the story. Poor research it seems.
I love how fundamentally wrong the world of Marvel Ruins are. Whenever someone almost achieved greatness and become either superhero or supervillain, they instead become something else that could, realistically, go wrong if depicted in more realistic lenses.
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
lol I don't know why early marvel writers thought radiation was a power up, it would horrifically rot you from the inside out period
@Knightlaw
Жыл бұрын
@@MGrey-qb5xz must likely because at the time it was the easiest way to explain powers without saying that they were an alien or something.
@aydenroman6329
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much lol, quicksilver literally went so fast his limbs fell apart
@navalends8968
Жыл бұрын
@@MGrey-qb5xz Now gamma radiation is a magic power granted to those who attained it by basically Satan, it's as funny as it sounds
@navalends8968
Жыл бұрын
@@aydenroman6329 True, realistically speedster is so fragile even running at the speed of top speed car will destroy their body in a matter of seconds. Maybe it's the reason why they required a secondary power to mitigate the side effects
Warren Ellis. The man who hates superheroes more than almost anyone else on earth. Also, Silver Surfer wasn't destroyed from the inside out. He felt like he was suffocating because he no longer needed to breathe, so he ripped his own chest open in a desperate attempt to get air in his lungs. This book is grim as hell.
@TawakeBaka
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, that Charles had no problems with his powers, he just can control them and become President, but Erik cannot. Also, scene in prison is very heartbreaking, my poor boy Quicksilver got his hand and legs cut off.
@stevencooper564
Жыл бұрын
@@TawakeBaka He and Kitty were heartbreaking.
@TawakeBaka
Жыл бұрын
@@stevencooper564 Yep. That was hard to watch. Also Jean and Logan. Like, slowly decaying, hardcore shit. I think worse of this is Bruce destiny. He is a giant tumor, but still alive.
@elfascisto6549
Жыл бұрын
Garth Ennis is worse
@juliiju0484
Жыл бұрын
I don't really think he hates superheroes that much. There are writers who have done worse things to superheroes just because they had the chance to write them. Garth Ennis is the classic example, but his time on the Punisher and Nick Fury caused a lot of controversy with Marvel, to the point where George Clooney had to say no to a Nick Fury movie because of the horrible things Fury did in the comic.
Weird how things like mutations, Galactus, Silver surfer, etc. are adapted pretty faithfully but simply had sad endings while characters like Thor and Ghostrider are these weird real world edge lord adaptations. There's some interesting ideas here but the inconsistency is kind of distracting and makes me wonder what the point of it all is. The art is nice though. Also, no mention of how Phil Sheldon is the protagonist of Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross's Marvels series? It's a really great read
@user-ux4pf7bw8w
Жыл бұрын
It is a mirror image of the 616 universe. If everything is fine there, the heroes win, and mutations give amazing super-abilities, then everything is bad here, mutations bring only suffering and painful death. There was even a phrase, for every light there is darkness. The meaning of the comic is to show this mirror world and it is so terrible precisely because of the way the original universe is. Interestingly, being a reflection, this universe is the most realistic.
@samuelshaw7730
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w No I get the idea, I'm saying that the execution is inconsistent and cheapens it. Thor is just a mentally insane normal man but Galactus is still a giant planet consuming purple space-being, he's just dead? There's nothing wrong with making a "dark" version of these stories, but it feels like they didn't put more thought into it than that
@BNK2442
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelshaw7730 One of the first painels has Thor's hammer. I think some painels also show Valkaries, so it is possible that there is more than one Thor in this incarnation.
@BNK2442
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelshaw7730 The most edge part of the comic is the Nick Fury, he shoots some people just because and then commits suicide. These things apart, I was invested in the world and I wanted to know why that universe 'went bad.' (I don't think Ellis has an answer, though. He probably just made the concept and went from there.)
@crazylegoids9227
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelshaw7730 i think it might be the same origin story as the MCU, with Thor being banished from Asgard and forced onto Earth. It would make sense that people would just think he's crazy in that case. Even darker, we can assume Loki took the throne
There's also a Valkyrie flying by the window when Phil is on the plane with Mystique. That is perhaps the single little bit of hope for this desperate and hurting universe
@iamthemouse4483
Жыл бұрын
And then she gets eaten alive by crows.
@greenpiersystem
Жыл бұрын
Based on the fact that Valkyries are supposed to lead people back to the afterlife so they can fight another day, I don't think that's really a good sign as it is a "well, this is shitty, but at least we can pull people out of the rubble and get them to somewhere nicer."
@iamthemouse4483
Жыл бұрын
@@greenpiersystem Accept in this universe, they actually drag them to hell.
@vsgfilmgroup
Жыл бұрын
@@iamthemouse4483 They're all on drugs. The hallucinations are making them bring back the worst possible people. At the final battle of Valhalla, all there is is a bunch of elderly women and cancer patients with swords. Every Norse god is eaten by Yggdrasil, and this reality falls apart. Meanwhile, The Batman Who Laughs suffers a massive rectal prolapse, and his last words are "I loved you, Two-Face."
Although this world is designed to be a mirror image of the original 616 universe, it is also the most realistic. All these bites by mutated animals, exposure to gamma radiation, and exposure to cosmic radiation could not lead to anything but a painful death ... Or suffering worse than death. I'm glad for Ben (the thing), at least somewhere he was lucky and he remained a man and did not suffer ... unlike the others. And all because he thought of refusing to fly with them on this crazy mission.
@willnorman-bargo
Жыл бұрын
It does somewhat seem to imply that if Ben was there they would have become the normal fantastic four.
@user-ux4pf7bw8w
Жыл бұрын
@@willnorman-bargo Or he would have died a horrific death just as well. The question here is not whether they would become the classic Fantastic Four with Ben, but whether they would escape the rays of cosmic radiation. If not, I'm sure nothing good would come of it anyway. Here the whole irony is that Ben in the original universe, due to his transformation, turned into a monster and suffered from it. Of course, this is not Banner turned into an abomination with a bunch of cancerous tumors, but the fact is that where the miraculous abilities of other heroes turned into a terrible nightmare, he avoided it and remained normal. Good for him.
@parknplay8328
Жыл бұрын
He is suffering survivors guilt daily, you can tell he thinks he could have prevented it had he been there.
@theauthor6669
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w the whole reason they OD'd on cosmic rays with Doom was because he couldn't do it in time, Doom was a fucking nerd. Grimm was an airforce pilot with lots of experience, it's heavily implied that the reason everything went to shit was because Grimm had common sense.
@NothingHereForYou
Жыл бұрын
Seems like an awful read. Like it’s comical the level of bad things happening in it. Really try hard, like “the Hulk got irradiated then he blew up all over a bunch of orphans and gave them aids then the orphans grew up to be meth heads and blew out their brains. I started laughing when it went from Cap feeding Fury human meat then hooker Jane came out then Fury shot himself
good lord,imagine just getting out of bed then u saw a DEAD galactus floating out of space
@God-vl8qo
Жыл бұрын
Start a go fund me to send people to space to fetch his body so that we may feast on his cosmic flesh.
@poweroffriendship2.0
Жыл бұрын
I would definitely hate to live in the Ruins if that ever happened. Time to hop off to another universe.
@alixer2890
Жыл бұрын
@@God-vl8qo Bro didn't Marvel Zombies prove that exploring mysterious Galactus Corpses only leads to what can universally be classified as bad news bears?
@somegoodsoup7008
Жыл бұрын
Typical day in Ohio
This is literally if Garth Ennis was allowed to make a Marvel Comic
@Facade953
Жыл бұрын
This is actually darker and more depressing than The Boys and even Marvel Zombies.
@kendi5391
Жыл бұрын
Didn't he write the Punisher kills Marvel Universe?
@dootrevenant5886
Жыл бұрын
@Zer0 just make every superhero a racist/pedophile and boom, it's a Garth Ennis story
@DefinitelyNotATrolldier
Жыл бұрын
Correction He would just make another The Boys
@dreamyliamy2537
Жыл бұрын
Ive read both this and a mix of good and bad ennis comics, this comic is written nothing like any ennis comic ive read lol
Fun fact the wiki states It's implied that Ben Grimm's refusal to pilot Reed Richards' spaceship to study cosmic rays, the event that would've created the Fantastic Four, was the catalyst for this dark Earth. Though judging by Nick Fury's comments about Captain America teaching him to eat human flesh (i.e. "cannibalism") during World War II, this may also have been the event that created this dark reality/Earth.
@obsidianfrost9514
Жыл бұрын
FF were the first hero family so them being the catalist for it all to go wrong makes sense IMHO.
@wolvewick4414
Жыл бұрын
@@obsidianfrost9514 captain america events was first than ff. your comment makes no sense.
@obsidianfrost9514
Жыл бұрын
@@wolvewick4414 it's implied but who knows how and when or even why. The universe was wrong, and even with a rogue cap the FF could of been the nail that sealed the universes fate. Hell Galactus died and floated in space
@juliiju0484
Жыл бұрын
@@wolvewick4414 It wouldn't make much sense in continuity, but it would make meta sense. The Fantastic Four made Marvel exist, and while Captain America was successful in the golden age of comics, he wouldn't have come back if Marvel hadn't been saved by the Fantastic Family. Still, as I always say, never trust the wiki *too* much.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
@@wolvewick4414 Captain was first…but it’s the FF that Marvel owes everything to
The horrific art style adds to the tragedy. The stencle shading and realistic detailed faces are distorted in the worst possible way making it seem like everyone is in the maximum amount of discomfort. This was really depressing to watch but I always have had the thought of what Marvel heroes would look like if they had the "bad ending".
i love dark comics but this one genuinely feels way too edgy, art is amazing though
@Lookathisshiteatinggrin
Жыл бұрын
the edgy parts are bast moments in this comic in my opinion
@_Dawson_
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it felt a little tryhard.
@lemone12
Жыл бұрын
Idk I wouldn't call it "edgy"(it is) but some parts felt kinda boring and predictable
@HUNTR11
Жыл бұрын
Some of its good but stuff like iron man just becoming a serial killer is a bit out of the blue and seems like it was just trying to be edgy
@icehoof
Жыл бұрын
"By the way, captain America made me a canable" *shoots Jean Grey who is a prostitute * Refuses to elaborate * Kills self This feels AI generated
I find it fascinating that Ben was the only hero in this story that didn't went insane or died terribly, kinda contrasting with his fate in the 616 universe where he was the only one of the Fantastic Four who had his appearance permanently altered by the cosmic radiation and was the one that suffered the most with his powers out of the group
I was really hoping that Phil would make the story. That was such a twist and sad ending.
@classit8248
Жыл бұрын
Same it made me sad
@TygerHillis
Жыл бұрын
And its even sadder that no one stopped and read his notes either
The spookiest part about Galactus floating around Mars is that he was so close to Earth before he evidently starved to death.
@Wyzennnnn
2 ай бұрын
I thought that he was just headed our direction and then died halfway, leaving his body to just float towards us but that seems alot more grim and I luv it lol
I woulda expected the punisher to be kinda the same in ruins. His life was already fucked up
@TawakeBaka
Жыл бұрын
I'm not shocked by it. He had so many enemies. And in reality its really easy to get shoot.
@brunowillich1837
Жыл бұрын
He had it better in this timeline if anything. He was finally put out of his misery.
And remember kids: Darkness on its own doesn't automatically make your story any good, it just makes you look like an edgy teenager.
@Lookathisshiteatinggrin
Жыл бұрын
Like my 😅🥺
@Lookathisshiteatinggrin
Жыл бұрын
I think I've been like this forever, pray for me please 🥺❤️
@ilvanasgobero8096
Жыл бұрын
I think The reason this universe is interesting is because we know what It COULD have been like, but yeah it's pretty edgy
@spidey5558
Жыл бұрын
Coughcough the Bois coughcough
@kadenbaio9758
Жыл бұрын
@@spidey5558 The comic for sure but the show has moments of people being good and giving hope that things will get better.
And people thought the Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) was depressing.
@mythomniverse
Жыл бұрын
Fr man this universe is the most depressing and disturbing. Specially Hulk and Spiderman. Hulk had became a huge collection of tumors and still alive suffering pain. And Peter who was a normal happy kid student and the cancer he got was painful asf and also changed the way he looked and made him look horrible and SCARY as a demon. Imagine the pain both physically and mentally. imagine being thrown from house and people avoiding you because you look like a monster but once looked like normal humans living life
@miracon000fez
Жыл бұрын
@@mythomniverse to add insult to injury he literally looks like his suit
@DioBrando-ej6gb
Жыл бұрын
@@miracon000fez Which made it much more disturbing it's like the suit melted onto his skin
@miracon000fez
Жыл бұрын
@@DioBrando-ej6gb plus the way he holds that sheet around him makes his hands look like he's shooting webs, I feel like the creator of the comic just put that there to completely traumatise Spider-man fans
@DioBrando-ej6gb
Жыл бұрын
@@miracon000fez true lmao
Ironman becoming a serial killer feels like a cheap cop-out tbh, it would have made sense that when Tony escaped he’d increase his weapons production to wipe out the terrorist that captured him, but it inadvertently leads to another nuclear arms race.
@alchemistofsteel8099
Жыл бұрын
Actually what happened to iron man is never clarified, all we know is he got betrayed by scarlet witch and then went up in smoke
@TheOneWhoShushes
11 ай бұрын
Ironman was wounded trying to deescalate the Californian successionist and the us by the us. Due to this he back up the successionist and and their scientists making the avengers a terrorist organization. Hence why they were shot down
@JohnWall-lj1mx
7 ай бұрын
Him being a serial killer is so out of nowhere it would be more believable if he was wanted for selling weapons to terrorist groups
Wanda being a soul survivor of the avengers after being granted immunity is the scariest thing knowing that her brother is out there mutilated and dying
There isn’t really a story here. It’s just a tour through the writer’s edgy Marvel AU.
@nicholasmahoney7820
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what this is. It doesn’t feel like it’s trying to actually tell a story or make a point. It just feels more like an excuse to be as ridiculously dark, edgy, graphic, and depressing as possible, and I don’t like that mentality.
@sethstoll8525
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmahoney7820 the artwork is fuckin baller though
@joshwist556
Жыл бұрын
@@lesshuman00 except the book was never finished due to him getting Radioactive AIDs. So yes, there is no story to it aside seeing misery porn of your favorite heroes.
@sr.brigadeiro7718
Жыл бұрын
@@joshwist556 yep
this story is how i feel about the current state of marvel.
@alexkyrylivk5102
Жыл бұрын
Except this comic is great
@sidekic1109
Жыл бұрын
@@alexkyrylivk5102 he's referring to the part that everything is dying and in shambles
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
Yeah cheap adaptions of famous comic story lines for mcu fans and general comic story line of woke marvel.
@brainsteroids8043
Жыл бұрын
@@MGrey-qb5xz "woke" doesn't have anything to do with marvel's downfall. Bad writing isn't "woke". Grow up.
@brainsteroids8043
Жыл бұрын
@Rainbow Rattle Twerking isn't really woke either.
Thanos would be working overtime if he saw this earth
@thesupershinymegagengar2034
Жыл бұрын
Thanos would probably never stop vomiting if he saw this.
@luminification
Жыл бұрын
Thanos is probably dead because he most likely managed to bone lady death. Comic Thanos have no chill about saving life, he just want to kill to impress lady death.
@TheChckster
Жыл бұрын
@@luminification He most likely didn't, death does not like him in the slightest. She even tried to kill him
@Unknown-hb3id
11 ай бұрын
In this universe, Thanos is just some alien bodybuilder that ate too much purple food coloring, did a load of "Infinity" drugs, and went into a catatonic state after committing a terrorist act or something.
@austinreed7343
3 ай бұрын
The result: Thanos snaps away one half of every organism in the universe, finally killing it, slowly and painfully.
Marvel could definitely write a horror story if they wanted to. It's nice to see a dark take on the marvel universe done right. That being said who tf hurt these writers like they got to be really messed up.
@mariajosebravo5889
3 ай бұрын
*DareDevil seen marval ruin matt* DareDevil saying: holy shit we both Dead marval ruin matt: hehe my Timesline my Frank ls Die too DareDevil saying: Nooooooooooo
The scene with the punisher shot dead, while tragic is shockingly realistic and not too far off thematically. Here you have is a man of the law who had lost his family from the mob and now he devotes his life on a violent path of vengeance, vowing to destroy all those who "wronged" him. Even when he eventually eliminates his enemies his continues on his futile quest for "justice" and due his past and his current actions he can never even attempt return to a normal life. By abandoning his principles and disregarding due process and innocence till proven guilty, he becomes the very thing he is trying to get rid of. A broken man like Frank Castle is more of less destined to die like that.
Funny cause its the opposite story of MARVEL written by kurt busiek and penciled by the legend itself alex ross so even the way the panel are made are kind of a reflection of what marvel look like. (Amazing book btw). Really interesting concepts on the marvel. Great video! Keep it up!
I actually didn't like this comic qnd this is coming froma guy who loves reading dark comics. This comic is just dark for the sake of being dark
@CyberneticStreetrunner
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you here man,it’s like the ending of The Boys’ comic,it feels dark just to be dark and sorta seems spiteful
@mr.reject9576
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree it was somehow to dark
@samjasek1755
Жыл бұрын
It’s a great premise but it’s like the comic version of DCs apocalypse war movie
@devinward461
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it just seems like it's going for shock value rather than trying to make any meaningful point
@thebush6379
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I think would give it meaning is if Phillip got to write his book. But nope, it's clear that the writers just want to create the embodiment of despair
to think that the ending of infinity Wars destroyed me, to see this story come to life would break my heart even more
@Amfortas
Жыл бұрын
Utter man child
"god found dead in space"
This comic is so edgy I got a papercut just from watching a video about it
@Lookathisshiteatinggrin
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 good one 🤣
This is hitting levels of edgy i didn't think exist. Maybe if it was done down a couple of levels it would be so much better The art is insane though
@anontwentytwo1380
Жыл бұрын
You don't know what edgy means and how to use is properly
@questionablegreg4684
Жыл бұрын
@@anontwentytwo1380 cope
@Ahmadabdal_
Жыл бұрын
@@anontwentytwo1380 enlighten me please
@clnblk7773
Жыл бұрын
@@Ahmadabdal_ define "edgy"
@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617
Жыл бұрын
@@clnblk7773 anon twentytwo
the only downside of this is that is feels... forced? I get the concept is what if everything went wrong, but for it all to happen so close together that one reporter can be there for all of it... idk but a cool world is there
@espernova228
Жыл бұрын
Like Jean, Mystic just casually die in front of him
If everything goes wrong in that universe, how’d they even get past the stone age?
@abdalln8554
8 ай бұрын
Thrugg invent wheel, get run over. Mung invent farming, die of food poisoning. Wurt invent pants, get super cancer.
I honestly think this one is really tryhard. It feels like marvel were really trying to ape the style of Grant Morrison’s Arkham Asylum with the hand painted style and the whole dark, psychological tone but it just doesn’t really work for me. It tries to be really serious and gritty but it just comes across as over the top, the Alien Gulag and the cannibalism just felt like too much to me.
@vincentadultman6226
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, tryhard really is the best description. Even Dark Knights Metal wasn't this edgy lol, and even the Kingdom Come and that one batman comic (Arkham Asylum ) make sense with regard to the characters and their motivations, this just feels like Marvel's attempt at DKM but they only had the budget for one comic Curious about the fate of Dr Strange in this universe, though it's probably going to be him performing horrific experiments on his patients to achieve his "third eye" ala Hellraiser or red skull
@devinward461
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it seemed like it was this dark just for the sake of being dark
@ridleyjack9350
Жыл бұрын
I mean... it's called "Marvel Ruins"
@beansya8967
Жыл бұрын
Fr like you’re Marvel Comics not Stephen King
@chiyo-chanholocaust8143
Жыл бұрын
Either "tryhard" or "exploitative"
So, in this universe: Captain America: Eats human flesh. Iron man: Became a Serial Killer. Wolverine: Gets a bone disease and is destined to die. Punisher: Gets killed. Silver Surfer: Exploded. Galatcus: Died of hunger. Cree Warriors: Living in the worst conditions. Black Panther: Sent to jail. Hawkeye: Executed in public. Nick Fury: Gave up in everything. Dark Pheonix: Becomes a hooker. Bruce Banner: Becomes a tumor monster, destined to suffer. Darkholme: Kills herself. Magneto: Becomes a hippie. Professor X: Tortures mutants. Cyclops: Got his eyes burned, getting tortured. Nightcrawler: Getting tortured, most likely dying of hunger. Quicksilver: Got all his limbs cut off, being tortured. Thor: is just a crazy doctor. Jhonny Blaze: Died by putting his head on fire, screaming as he used the motorcycle. Reeds: Died of cosmic radiaton, wich made him stretch to death. Jhonny Storm: Got burned to a molecular level. Suzan Storm: Died of cosmic radiaton. Peter Parker: Got a disease from the spider, that will eventually kill everyone that touches him. I thought that Zombies and Ultimate were alr dark asf, but this universe is something else. Everything is destined to fail.
@oceanpark_5211
Жыл бұрын
Emma frost : still Emma frost
The art style is absolutely incredible, the begginning of the comic being cleaner as we've not been introduced to the terrors of this world, but as the story progresses and the more and more we learn, the more grotesque the art style becomes.
This is a very Souls-like story. Everything is as bad as possible. The whole world is dying. It’s all slowly collapsing into decay. It’s all gradually succumbing to madness. And there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it.
I like how the one time Ben Grimm (The Thing) finally doesn't suffer an awful fate, it's in a world of pure chaos for everyone else. The single instance you could say he caught a break, it HAD to be in a world where everyone else suffered. Love the poetic shift there.
I like how no one’s talking about the way one of the soldiers was able to pick up Thors hammer like nothing
@Lilmonky69
Жыл бұрын
I think it's because in this world he doesn't exist and it's just a hammer
@rey_2860
Жыл бұрын
@@Lilmonky69 think that was the actual thor just without any powers and hes just holding that 'normal' hammer
@Lilmonky69
Жыл бұрын
@@rey_2860 epic sauce
@kadenbaio9758
Жыл бұрын
@@rey_2860 He literally says that it isn't actually Thor, just some doctor
@alchemistofsteel8099
Жыл бұрын
@@kadenbaio9758 Thor is a doctor who got powers in the comics.
There is still hope for this timeline. Doctor Doom(no way he's down that easy), the infinity stones, the watchers, and, if there lucky, someone from another universe will find them.
@thisguy1640
Жыл бұрын
Even as a bundle of minerals in a world where nothing does or should go right, Doctor Doom will find a way. Doctor Doom *always* finds a way.
@quantum6888
Жыл бұрын
Doom was in the F4 trip. The reason why things went wrong was because Ben refused to go and Víctor took his place
@Nixx1.0
Жыл бұрын
doom died
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
huh?
@jakeleviathan6724
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if Galactus is really dead the universe is fucked. There's no reincarnation, no chance to fix their mistakes, once the universe explodes, that's it. Everything's over. In fact, since Galactus is the only thing that separates Eternity and Death, the ruins universe is probably already dying. Which explains Philip Sheldon's feelings of impending death and destruction.
My theory is that Donald Blake was actually Thor, but nobody believed him and he ended up as a wretch as a result...
@Lutherstrode17492
3 ай бұрын
Or it was Loki who caused that. Or maybe it was because Odin banished him to Earth, and Thor developed amnesia
Maybe the Deadpool of this universe, just looks like himself from X-Men Origins. Truly a fate worse than death.
Another universes heros should get transported there and see if they can make a difference for however long they are there
@Shadow30.
Жыл бұрын
They woudl 1: die 2: can't make a difrence 3: they do somethink
@synthysynthy
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how that would go.
@obsidianfrost9514
Жыл бұрын
That universe is dead. So I doubt they would make it
@westondickinson5309
Жыл бұрын
@@obsidianfrost9514 well the universe never had actual heroes so if it had actual Thor and people like that I'm sure it might have been better. Or worse who knows it could be good or bad if they went there and a third felt like going punisher on someone after he sees how hopeless it is.
@mywifesboyfriend5558
Жыл бұрын
Just like our universe, we kill all our heroes.
I read this comic for the first time today. I’ve read my dad’s trade copy of Marvels many times throughout my life, so upon learning that there was a What If story for it, I had to read it. I expected something dark, but I didn’t expect this. This makes Marvel Zombies look like Adam West era Batman. It was just flat out depressing, seeing all the heroes I grew up with reimagined as withered, rotting, hollow shells of beings. And the returning art style of the original story made the body horror elements all the more horrifying. While I found this to be an interesting read and recommend it to anyone who’s a fan of Marvel, Marvels, horror, and alternate universe story’s I felt emotionally drained after reading it. I may re-read Marvels again as a palate cleanser.
Awesome video. I’d love some more longer videos like this. You always cover great stories. I especially like the depressing/dark ones. Keep sticking with what you think is good. You got good taste 🤙🏻
I believe that the doctor is actually Thor whom was stripped of his powers and forced to live a life as a feeble civilian with a has been past and had gone crazy not being able to pursue his destiny.
"Now Washington D.C. is known for drugs, crime, and havoc" my man it's always been that way, D.C. has always been the city where the poor get poorer and the rich make a penny off it. Its rough as hell.
"hey you know this character what if their power: but it killed them and they were a bad person."
It's a world with no plot armor. If I had read this as a child, probably even as a teen, chances are I would have been scarred by it. This is such a twisted story but it's the art especially that drives it home. Looks like Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark.
Geez. Tbh this is a pretty tasteless story. They basically took every hero and said "How can we violently kill everyone for no reason?"
@lesshuman00
Жыл бұрын
It's not gratuitous. A good chunk of characters outcomes are probably what would happen to then realistically
@austinreed7343
3 ай бұрын
@@lesshuman00 Some of them, however, are less of plausible deconstructions and more “generic real-world edgelord” parody stuff.
Quicksilver had me in shock like wtf
@diorhill2064
Жыл бұрын
I mean it make sense how his legs and arms couldnt handle his very fast speed.
I find it interesting that this is the world where Ben Grimm avoids his fate of becoming the Thing. Imagine the psychological toll seeing yourself in that form everyday and being called by the codename "The Thing." Truthfully, every other universe is the one where Ben suffers. In this one, he laments how all his friends perished.
That’s actually the hardest ending of all time. This universe was so messed up that the story wasn’t even told in the first place 😂
Oh I remember this... this is one of the worst Universe.. ever in marvel right after Zombies and Ultimate Universe.. but there could be worse and that's interesting
@dudefails8489
Жыл бұрын
And also punisher kills marvel
@user-ux4pf7bw8w
Жыл бұрын
In fact, this is the worst universe only for those who should become heroes, miracles. In the same marvel zombies humanity was slaughtered, in many parallel universes the apocalypse happened.... But here, without any superheroes and supervillains, the world lives as it used to live, even Galactus himself died a step away from salvation. This world doesn't need heroes, it's fine as it is. And it is not much worse than ours.
@videoms1271
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w the world is literally dying bro wdym 💀
@user-ux4pf7bw8w
Жыл бұрын
@@videoms1271 No. This world is no different from ours in general terms. The only thing that dies are those who were supposed to be heroes and villains. From the fact that Magneto, Spider-Man and many others died painfully, the world has not changed in any way. Even the problem with aliens like the Kree and Galactus invaders was resolved without heroes.
@antogno4625
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w not only humanity, the entire universe died.
This is just typical day in Chicago
I'm just curious about the Captain America and eating human meat part, like, what? Was he a POW and forced into cannibalism and kept going after?
@Air_Serpent
Жыл бұрын
I figured it's something like the cartels doing cannibalism- to fuck around and cause damage
Basically this is what Garth Ennis wanted to do for the boys but realized he wanted to tell a story that instead humiliated them.
bro just hit us with the darkest marvel story ever and then asked if we liked it. Yes. Yes I did.
There was one thing that always kinda bugged me. Why would Peter need to take a job at the Bugle in a world where Ben was still alive? In most continuities, the only reason that job even stuck out to him was that they wanted pictures of Spider-Man. Also I wish Ellis had taken the time to hint at what was going on with Xavier. Like, I've read enough X-Men to take a guess and feel pretty confident in it, but still.
@echo9932
Жыл бұрын
Probably just took the job because, yknow, it's a job, and he was unemployed. There wasn't mention of his uncle Ben having passed, but it's Marvel and one of the golden rules is "if there's a Peter Parker, there's a dead uncle Ben"
@Trenaime
11 ай бұрын
Isnt xavier become president?
@chandllerburse737
8 ай бұрын
Peters uncle still probably died due to the robber. The fact is the only reason Peter sees that the robber got away was because he was there and didn’t stop him. But reality wise if Peter didn’t get powers and wasn’t there the robber still would’ve got away and made it to the Parkers and shot Ben. Probably this time in front of Peter.
This just feels really weird, some heroes are given super powers normally while others are just straight up diseased. What’s with the inconsistency, they want to use the common backstories, but then don’t go all the way and instead make up some overly gruesome scenario which occurs instead. It’s just so unnecessarily edgy and doesn’t really care about who the characters are, they just wanted to make a cliche ‘superheroes aren’t really heroes’ story where everyone dies because ‘death is cool’.
The comic is absolutely crushing just seeing your favorite superheros mistreated and in constant pain and agony everything that was supposed to go wrong just went wrong The most soul crushing scenes were that of Peter. A very friendly and helpful student in one panel brightly smiling and in the other he's just a skinless cancer. That look of despair on his face and how he's holding that blanket will just stick with me for a while it's kind of traumatic to see
Let's face it, if mutants actually existed in our world, _this_ is what reality would be.
@ikenachima1432
Жыл бұрын
we never know
@ikenachima1432
Жыл бұрын
i mean some might try to use there powers for robbery and stuff but others will try and solve them but our population would definitely decrease due to mass destruction
@lainhikaru5657
11 ай бұрын
The U.S would try to weaponize them, hell, MK ultra was a real thing and no mutant gene was needed for that shit to happen.
@bossseto5380
10 ай бұрын
Nah not that much of hell 💀
@JohnWall-lj1mx
7 ай бұрын
@@lainhikaru5657would probably backfire tho just look at Manson and TK
“Welp, like that’s ever gonna happen.” *Closes book£ Somebody once told me-
The way the Mutants are kept in a prison for experiments is sadly the most realistic part of the comic
This is the most depressing one I've ever seen....
Just goes to show that in an alternate universe, that you, yes you. Could be like these people i take this story as a be thankful for what you got kinda story
@thesupershinymegagengar2034
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
The amount of effort and detail that went into every page is inspiring
I smiled when you said he dreamed of the heroes they could have been
comic so edgy in needed to be printed in four dimentions
I always got the impression that this is only part of some cosmic horror story. Something like that episode of the twilight zone where astronauts survived against all odds and slowly they’re erased one by one with no trace by a force beyond their understanding. Hell I maintain a theory about ruins that there is a beyonder whispering thoughts into people and making things worse, and that beyonder would look like warren Ellis.
I’ve always thought this comic would be awesome if we got it in the MCU!!A stand-alone 1 shot/what if?
@Devon.with.an.i
2 жыл бұрын
That’d be so sick, but the MCU would completely ruin the comic and tone down a lot of it. Maybe some day :/
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
No
@looniemoonie5955
Жыл бұрын
Too dark for MCU. They couldn't make a serious Marvel Zombies episode, it was filled with jokes.
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
@@looniemoonie5955 bruh the actual marvel zombies from the comics still gives me nightmares as an adult, the imagery , the voices , the horrific distortions of your beloved heroes haunts me.
@MrJonezy541
Жыл бұрын
The same MCU which awkwardly shoehorns jokes every 10 seconds in its films? Yeah I'd rather they didn't touch this, they would just ruin it.
This is what the Marvel Heroes would be like in our world.
Very well done man, thanks for taking time to share the story
the beautiful style of this really adds so much depth to the story
Thank you for finally talking about marvel ruins
"what is subtext" -the writers, probably
Good job. Based on your video and the more realistic outcomes of mutants based in the story I'm going to add this comic to my collection.
The art for this was INCREDIBLE.
The art reminds me so much of scary stories to tell in the dark!
10:58 Johnny does the Yamcha pose
Imagine this is a plot twist where it's revealed that none of any marvel thing happened and it's all just dreams this guy has been having after wishing for wondrous marvels that make the world a better place.
I can not get enough of the art from this series. It's twisted in a gorgeous way
I find it very funny how people are acting like She-Hulk throwing some ass with a real life rapper is some kind of unholy character assassination and desecration of his creations while there exist numerous comics predating the MCU that feature all kinds of Marvel characters getting absolutely demolished in the most depraved and graphic ways imaginable
@antogno4625
Жыл бұрын
Cry about it, these are two different things.
@MGrey-qb5xz
Жыл бұрын
What?
@Literallyryangosling777
Жыл бұрын
One is cringe the other one is edgy, easy as that
@austinreed7343
Жыл бұрын
At least this isn’t canon.
@mercury2157
Жыл бұрын
@@antogno4625 I actually don't give a fuck about She-Hulk or the MCU as a whole but it still just baffles me that this treatment of Marvel characters, canon or not, is totally fine but god forbid somebody throw ass in a TV show that has hardly any relevance to its overall universe outside of having Daredevil on it and introducing Skaar with a fucked up haircut
damn this one hell of a story, just hearing it summarized and with the hint of its imagery it almost makes me want to cry.
‘I couldn’t help but tear up a little bit’. That was unintentionally funny.
Warren Ellis wrote this soon after his Hellstorm run and it was marvel's attempt to make it's own Vertigo type imprint. The Last Avengers Story was another from this imprint
This feels like reality in a way where humans are just animalistic and sadistic
this is literally so morbid and dark and I love it
@onehit9401
Жыл бұрын
Kinda depressing to
Honestly this story doesn't even have a plot it's just a showcase of "How fucked up is fucked up". the art is good but its not enough to care the whole thing
That handsome looking Hulk has been haunting me in my dream for a few days
This is literally Marvel but written by George Orwell
I love dark and gritty stories as much as the uplifting ones and I'm a big fan of Warren Ellis' work. But this one particularly strikes me as misery p*rn, depressing for the sake of depressing. The art is great, but the story is not for me.
@jamiemanning4944
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I loved Castlevania so I was excited to hear Warren Ellis wrote this but this wasn't it.
that going insane because of all the shapeshifting is brilliant
So the scp foundation might want to check out Philip Sheldon cause he seems to have anomalous properties