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Aww, I wish there would've been post-game interviews with both finalists.

Pretty jealous of how he draws his 2-drop on every single opening lol

no champion interview? 😒 overall a fun event to watch. it's just sad that the patch happened in between so changes has to be made. props to dera for adapting and winning.

Awesome content, great job by both players. Hope to keep seeing Jeff on things like this. His deck is super innovative and fun to play.

master mold and scorpion dual mvps

@Revarine

Жыл бұрын

Im still not sure if Zabu instead of Scorpion wouldnt be better actually. Or if not instead of Scorpion, maybe on Lizard's spot?

@twistedlogic182

Жыл бұрын

@@Revarine I play a similar deck and I personally prefer zabu, but scorpion did some work ngl. Really personal preference honestly. Scorpion is just a super good card.

@AnthonyVex

Жыл бұрын

@Joel Viola zabu probably would be more consistent, I think the locations increased the scorpion value quite a bit as well as the opponent having generally lower power cards.

@Cold-grits

Жыл бұрын

@@RevarineScorpion in these cases was getting missive value off the bounce deck along with Mold. Zabu would make the ceiling higher and perform well, but scorp was great tech here.

Wow I am shocked the ronan deck performed so well. Although mostly I think darkhawk is just maybe the strongest non shuri thing you can be doing in the game, master mold still put in so much work.

This tournament was great. It would be nice if the entire thing took place on the same patch but that might be outside of peoples control.

Nicely played by Dera, fun to see both hands and how strong Scorpion and Master Mold were in this matchup. In normal Snap the best you can do is guess at what those cards are doing, so this presented a rare opportunity to really see how they screw over the opponent. I'm still a little flummoxed by Dera's Shang Chi-right-but-lose-the-breaker loss to Speci (tho Dera won that match), so it's hard to feel like he really looked like a grand champion, but the guy really is a great Snap player and his Snap/retreat decisions were dead on, completely unimpeachable. For Jeff, he ran into a deck tech'd to beat his bounce and also his luck ran out. (He's probably the best Snap player out there, but he's not QUITE as dominant as he looked in the upper bracket -- his nearly flawless run had most the high-leverage 50/50's go his way.) Fun tourney, just fix the little technical issues (how many times did the casters get tricked by the invisible final cube?) and re-work the display so we can see both players' plays. Good job all around.

@user-Aaron-

Жыл бұрын

Great comment - seems quite unbiased and all points are solid. The tournament overall was quite entertaining but there's a lot that could be improved; not sure I'd bother watching another one by 983 Media as-is unless the player lineup was stacked.

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

The Shang Chi right side was a clear just miscalculation on my part as the casters even missed it. I knew wong would come over with the arnim play, I was calculating all the other possibilities on top of an arnim play and wanted to cover my bases, but in the mix of all the calculations missed the fact that my 7 wouldn't be bigger than his 7. My one big misplay of the lower bracket, hard to not make any.

@giantermite7039

Жыл бұрын

@@derajn Ha, yeah, my comment was a bit harsh. I mean, going a dozen or so games and limiting myself to just one misplay like that would probably be a personal best, so what the hell am I criticizing. You built a great deck, played it well, snapped/retreated perfectly (and I don't mean based on outcome, I mean based on what you knew at the time). A really great performance. It's just I was one of the handful of people yelling "no! 7 only ties!" at my screen like an idiot, and you were definitely who I wanted to come through the lower bracket, so that miss stuck with me. Congrats on the win!

For your first SNAP tournament, you guys did a great job. That was fun. Looking forward to more!

Ultimately, I am just sad we haven't gotten to see a single Negasonic play here.

GG's Dera and Jeff. Great finals play to you both.

Overall a very enjoyable tournament, but for future tournaments please try to avoid patches mid-way through forcing players to submit new decks.

@gagolas2267

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Specially since now there's a lot of people that can't accept the result. Sad to see such a nice tournament have such a controversial finals.

@kl3554

Жыл бұрын

@@gagolas2267 Didn’t look controversial to me. One guy stuck with his deck knowing full well it was the star of the tournament and could/would be countered and another guy built a deck to beat the one that dominated the tournament thus far. Both well within their rights. Fair is fair.

@gagolas2267

Жыл бұрын

@@kl3554 Yeah it was all fair play. But it is still an excuse for people to be salty.

@darkly7749

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's definitely a flaw to do a tournament over weeks like this. None of the other snap tournaments have had this issue where players had to change decks because a balance patch dropped partway through.

@angelods417

Жыл бұрын

​@@gagolas2267 well you seem to be salty that some people are salty lol. It is what it is man, when things like this happen people are gonna be split regardless. Tale as old as time. It's okey, let the salt run wild lol

How hard is it to be able to view the top player hand and what they play? The whole tournament and didn't get fixed?

That gambit.... What a finisher. Amazing tourney guys. Please make more!

The casters really made me cringe by repeatedly saying Dera should snap at ~13 minutes. (which he correctly does not). Snapping is a terrible decision-- better to go for 4 cubes than tip Jeff off for basically a guaranteed 2.

@Flike245

Жыл бұрын

Boomer snappers.

Please please please sort out the placement of the points in the graphics. "Taking down Jeff Hoogland!" - even the commentators don't know what's going on with that last point. Just have them all visible, please!

39:15 "What's the most you've ever lost on a coin flip?" Nice no country for old men reference!

The community for this game is awesome

You know you've demoralized a man when he's hard retreating turn 4 in a money tournament.

Great casting and snap, thanks for the video 💜

Thanks for uploading!

Jesus…the adverts…..😂

Could you please put the perspective of the other player... You could only crop the battlefield and put it over the screen of the player above

great series!

Get in, Big D! The scammage king won!

Are they going to print the physical cards for the TCG? I’m hoping so! It could be bigger then Pokémon and Yugioh!

@pretsel5132

11 ай бұрын

It would be tough for cards like Agent 13 that add a random card to your hand and even for stuff like Korg since if played with sleeves the location of the rock would be obvious It's similar to hearthstone where the game has been made with the fact that it is digital only in mind

Nice games. Congrats to Dera for taking it home and finally being able to showcase his master mold deck.

22:15 is the moment Jeff threw the match. Optimal play was Rock right + Falcon left. That would make 9 in Kamar-Taj, next turn Bast right, Darkhawk middle and Korg left. 13-23-1. Although Dera had the best possible luck (which was quite annoying to watch), can't argue he outplayed Jeff. GG.

Think Jeff really misplayed at 33:52 playing scorpion over goose on turn 2. If he played goose on 2 then stormed the remaining location on 3, Dera would be able to play exactly 1 4 energy card and no others which should be a really winning position for Jeff. By playing scorpion and delaying goose and storm by 1 turn you let the opponent play a sera, allowing to once again play 4 energy cards into sinister London (via the cost reduction from sera). Overall pretty well played and fun to watch though, just wanted to point this out as I think Jeff should have been really favoured seeing sinister London, goose and storm in the opener.

Jeff snapping his way to loserland

Good stuff with admirable production values, hope to see more from you in the future. Hoogland was such a sore loser, though, bailing instead of letting the games play out where it wouldn't have mattered either way. This isn't a proper approach, especially for a showcase tournament.

Hella surprised Jeff didn't tech in Armor to add protection to Beast Bounce's greatest counter. Tbh some of his Snaps seemed like cube bully Snaps, trying to scare Dera out early using his pot advantage. And it backfired, cause Dera had good hands

@LOKITYZ

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. He was too aggressive, IMHO. Doesn't help that Dera's deck has answers for all Jeff's best plays.

That master mold absolutely wrecked Jeff's bounce deck and some bad luck with location and draws better luck next time Jeff!

Molded n Folded ⭐

I did't realize how amazing Master Mold is! MVP

congrats dera great watch! watch out for speci next time hes coming!!

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

I look forward to taking speci out of the next tourney as well 😎

Yeah I feel like it wouldn't be hard to show both players boards, the commentators guessing doesn't make any sense

@coldbane2598

Жыл бұрын

could just show locations and cards of one player and just cards of the other player and show them both on one screen, then would look like a seamless battlefield of uncovered cards. The locations are the same on both, so left is left, even if the cards of the top player are upside down

@thecollo1000

Жыл бұрын

They cant even get the "health" of the player on the screen... no way they can do anything that requires IQ

@Neonloverx

Жыл бұрын

both players boards? the cards are played on one board which anyone can see at all time? they show both players hands and cards that they have. and when the cards are played u see it on the screen. what are u complaining about

@russell.bishop

Жыл бұрын

​@@Neonloverx both commentators watch one player deciding their turn - they place cards, then undo and change their minds. We don't see that of both players so we miss that side of the story for commentators to talk through.

Incredible

Tienen que traer al siguiente torneo al mejor jugador de snap...el poderoso bigoton ... @freshlobster !!

Master mold causes master malding 😂

under rated mobile game

These were fantastic. Please Get Educated Collins and Alex Cochia in the next one

@Arsonan

Жыл бұрын

not alex

@agentmulder5250

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Arsonan hoog bot. 😢😢

@MoonBounce89

Жыл бұрын

@@Arsonan Alex lol, he ain't close to good enough to play against these dudes

@sillykyle17

Жыл бұрын

I was quite surprised they didn't have Collins in here, he's one of the best if not the best player in the world

Go Dera!!!

Beast vs Mold 😲

Lol everyone was rooting for Jeff and Freddy. Props to Dera he came up with original deck which was good but also Dera's perfect predictions

Jeff was able to make an entirely different deck in place of bounce, but chose to ride with it. I understand that, why not, but acting like he didn't have the option to change it for dera to "counter" is a load of garbage.

@nag_xo

Жыл бұрын

True. He had the option to change and even had a second deck. It's bloody fair match.

@agentmulder5250

Жыл бұрын

@@nag_xo Sir common sense isn't allowed in this comment section 😆. I 100% agree.

@AnthonyVex

Жыл бұрын

I agree but also feel the format of the tournament put him at a greater disadvantage since there has a patch and new card drops since the upper round finished. Would have been better to not have the tournament spread out so much time wise imo, added much more uneeded uncontrollable variables for all contestants.

@agentmulder5250

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyVex I agree in that respect to an extent, but it also forced dera out of using his Shuri list. Which, let's be honest, is just better than the list he ended up winning with. Although would have had issues with Jeff's second list.

@Kreence

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnthonyVex disadvantage? Bro he only needs to win 1 match. Plus he has 2 decks to work with. He even has an option to change the first one. He has all the advantages over his opponent who needs to win 2 games vs 2 decks. Jeff not changing his first deck is on him. Him not adapting to changes knowing theres a patch its on him. So many Jeff dick riders today. Its simple common sense

You would think Jeff won judging by these sus comments 😂. GG Dera, as a Mold player myself, was nice to see the card shine.

Was great to see someone like Dera with a great attitude towards the game and his viewers win it. Jeff treats his audience like trash and constantly insults people if they have different views from his own. Was great seeing him lose twice, and a ragequit on top of that. Grats Dera, couldn’t have gone to a more deserving dude.

Jeff is a great player but he does kind of seem a little bit full of himself. GG to both, but I'm glad that Dera won.

GGs really was surprised by the Ronan deck Dera won with nvr would of expected that deck to win

L'intro est trop long les kheys...

DERA THE GOAT

Why does Jeff have Darkhawk, seems out of place. Is it just a guaranteed 4 cost 8 power card?

Applaud Jeff for trying to compete with a less orthodox deck, but Dera was just on an entirely different level than him

@RemedieX

Жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate Jeff, though. Dera's deck counters Jeff's bounce pretty well. Scorpion essentially was a 2/9 in one of the games with all the stats it took away, while master mold clogs his hand up, preventing bounce and draw, he also has Killmonger, and finally, Shang punishes Bishop and Angela if they get too big. It really is a rough matchup. I don't see how Jeff could win with that deck here against another pro. In a situation with two pros of similar skill levels, the better matchup wins. It's why switching decks somehow should eventually be a thing.

@LOKITYZ

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. A lot of luck was involved. Both are on a similar level. Both made optimal plays with the cards they had. The locations and draws went Dera's way in the second match. In the first match, despite having a deck that's completely countered by his opponent, Jeff did relatively well. The room for level gap in a game like Marvel Snap isn't that high. This isn't chess. I think Jeff's biggest missteps were in his aggressive Snapping and overall cube management. Should've played it more safe.

@FilmColossus

Жыл бұрын

Dera got to submit a new deck with Jeff’s in mind

@AKATSUKIROBES

Жыл бұрын

@@FilmColossus So?

@FilmColossus

Жыл бұрын

@@AKATSUKIROBES so it wasn’t that Dera was on a different level. It’s that Dera got to adjust in a way Jeff really couldn’t.

The time between this video and the first really killed interest

@juliotorres3147

Жыл бұрын

Killed none of my interest.

@HealingSwordsman

Жыл бұрын

@@juliotorres3147 I'm glad it worked for you, but it didn't work for a lot of people.

DeraJN congratulations, you're the GOAT of Marvel Snap worldwide in my book. Maria Barth, the best hostess, great tournament

Dara your an incredible player! So much fun to watch

Les goo JEFF

Wow Jeff crumbled

Wish Speci and Freddy had casted the final tbh

Commentator- "ignore everything I just said" Will do. They can't even count cubes? Haha

master mold🍻

Upload faster. Why did this take this long? Forgot all about it until ppl mentioned it on the streams

Overall nice tournament - but the fact that the whole decklist can be swaped in the middle is a pure joke tbh

@LightsOutAce1

Жыл бұрын

It was one deck for winner's bracket and one for loser's

@xxxmmm6874

Жыл бұрын

@@LightsOutAce1 still - that's something that should not happen in any card-related tourney, cause if it does, it not a tourney anymore :P

@pheckeht

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@xxxmmm6874 Its different brackets are you retarded? If you stay in the winning brackets you have to use that same deck, if you fall into the losing bracket you use the loser bracket deck. Its so people in loser bracket have a chance to compete. Pretty simple to understand.

@mikebrowne4289

Жыл бұрын

It’s still a tournament, with the high level of variance in the game, and the chance for players to end up play each other more than once, it eliminates the auto scoop from a bad second matchup.

@xxxmmm6874

Жыл бұрын

@@mikebrowne4289 This has nothing to do with how should such an event be hosted :)

Could these commentators get any worse? They literally mentioned several times that round one was over when it wasn't. Like they literally don't even understand how the damage mechanic works.

Go Hoog!

Go Dera

Imagine being such a baby that you don’t even play until the end of the match.

Go Jeff!!!!

I don't think Jeff fans can blame the patch and it's completely normal for him not to change the deck, patching in the middle of a tournament, the player must adapt quickly or else he will be left behind, but about not changing the deck is his choice, everyone has the right to choose the old deck or change it, Don't use that as an excuse, what if Jeff wins? Stop making excuses and accept the outcome! 👉

@Kreence

Жыл бұрын

Well said brother. So many Jeff dick riders in the comment section. Crying that their master didnt win. Because of the "UNFAIR" chain of events.

jeff boohoogland

DERAJN THE GOAT!!! THAAAAA GOATTTTTTTTTTT

I cheer for anyone who can beat Jeff, haha, let go Dera !!! Woohoo 😝👏👏

Maybe that will knock Jeff off his high horse

@moeveggies2292

Жыл бұрын

Doubtful

@TheZombiegenesis

Жыл бұрын

Doubtful. He's the smartest, best, and coolest person he knows. Just ask him, he'll tell you.

@rG1vZ

Жыл бұрын

Nah unlikely He'll just block everyone who gives him a slight pushback

@rotobaitorx8854

Жыл бұрын

Oh I kno I take can’t stand him and how he act’s especially with his stream always so quick to block people that call him out on his BS. I laughed seeing his face expression when he lost 😂😂😂

Bit of a twist ending, as someone who wasn't following the revised deck-lists post nerf. Jeff certainly caught lightning in a bottle pre-Quin Jet / Thanos Nerf, kind of deserved the win in standard tournament- but props to Dera for adapting. Certainly a sub optimal way to run a tourney, but very entertaining for us viewers.

Ahahah I can see someone is tilted

The organizers need to have these complete in a timely fashion so that a freaking balance patch doesn't ruin the tournament integrity LMAO. IMO Hoogland's deck won the tourney going 4-0 undefeated landing him in the Finals. Post-patch getting to submit new decks LMAO. Grats Dera.

@juliotorres3147

Жыл бұрын

It ruined none of the integrity. It just hurt your feelings. No one cares.

@user-Aaron-

Жыл бұрын

​@@juliotorres3147 Coming from someone who's commented on 50% of the threads here (all negatively, I might add) 🙄

@Meatbun

Жыл бұрын

@@juliotorres3147 your idea of how a tournament is structured is laughable. Need only look at every major competition and sporting event. To say the integrity of the tournament wasn't compromised is some nice intellectual dishonesty or willful blindness so profound that if someone served you literally a plate of shit for dinner youd say it was delicious and give me more. Have fun trolling or coping, or both, but trying to argue with you someone that has zero logic or sense of what a 'tournament' by necessity should comprise of is not worth any more of my time.

Jeff be talking so much crap in his channel like he’s the best.. he got his as destroy 😂😂

@user-Aaron-

Жыл бұрын

Say what you will about the guy but he's stated openly and publicly many times that he's certainly not the best Snap player there is.

The only the that sucks is that Dera essentially got to counter Jeff after the nerfs since both all players got to submit new decks

@HurtsmithTV

Жыл бұрын

Jeff could have changed decks also…

@TheZombiegenesis

Жыл бұрын

...both players got to submit new decks...

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

I also had to not only choose a deck to beat Jeff but also the rest of the top 6 field. I had to beat 3 players to face Jeff

@Rob0_

Жыл бұрын

@@derajn I'm not discrediting you. Just unfortunate timing for the update. You clearly earned the victory.

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

@@Rob0_ Just pointing out that it wasn't as easy as "countering Jeff". I think I had a better chance to beat Jeff with my other deck I had pre-patch (literally the best deck in the game - Thanos Lockjaw) and essentially had to try and find a new deck in 24 hours that could beat the entire field of players I had to face.

Hilarious watching Jeff rage quit

"Both players still having fun here" After Dera emotes and Jeff insta-mutes him lol EDIT: This was incorrect, Dera says Jeff emoted first and Dera emoted back. My bad!

@levicline2179

Жыл бұрын

Omg when was that 😂

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

Jeff actually emoted me and i emoted back

@Lere

Жыл бұрын

@derajn got it! Thanks for clarifying and my bad for misunderstanding :) Just was a funny little exchange I thought I caught

@rG1vZ

Жыл бұрын

Honestly so glad dera won instead of jeff He's a bit much to say the least

im a simple man, i see jeff lose and i smile

a fittingly ungraceful end for the Geoff

Boohoogland.

Jeff can actually wins the Doom on kamar-taj if he used the Falcon and rock only then pulled KORG and Bast to play at 6, i m hoogland fans haha

Fun to watch. Good to see Jeff lose, great to see Dera win it

rooting for Jeff

I really enjoyed the whole tournament, but allowing them to change their decks really hurt Jeff. Dera came in with the shut down deck. That bounce was killing it, and doing a deck change right before the finals was unfortunate.

Is this where people banned from Jeff's chat go?

what are all these idiotic jeff fans in chat and comments lol

@notapatheticcucumber6502

Жыл бұрын

They have to mimic their cult leader: be salty, arrogant, disrespectfull, delusional and act tough behind a keyboard. Typical of keyboard warriors on their basement safespace, nothing new. Let the salt flow, i have popcorns 😂

@rG1vZ

Жыл бұрын

I mean having a following does that lol

Did Dera just build a counter deck during the multiple week hiatus in this tournament? If this is the case then I'm very disappointed in the professionalism of how this was run.

@juliotorres3147

Жыл бұрын

Uh? Everyone got to change. It wasn’t just one person. The professionalism is just fine. This comment is dumb.

@madthinker7777

Жыл бұрын

@@juliotorres3147 why was there a hiatus? Would Jeff have won if Dera was forced to play his original decks as planned?

@sillykyle17

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree they should have had the whole thing on one patch, but Dera's win was perfectly legitimate because all the players had the option to switch decks.

@madthinker7777

Жыл бұрын

@@sillykyle17 that's fair. Jeff could have did a 180 and surprised Dera. Would have liked to see it play out as planned, is all

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

I felt like I got the lowest end of the stick with the deck resubmission, I purposefully put my stronger deck in the lower bracket as a strategy and never got to play it. I resubmitted a deck that I thought in the post-patch meta would hold up well against what most people were likely to bring. (wave/she-hulk, sandman, and shuri). I think I wouldve had an even greater chance of winning out if I got to go up against Jeff and the others with the undisputed best deck in the game pre-patch (which is what I had brought - Thanos Lockjaw)

This was a good first tournament but maybe next time, have the entire tournament done over one weekend so new stuff does not come in the middle of the tournament and reset the meta. Since these are pre-recorded and not played live with players on both sides recording their views then it should be easy to get all of the matches done over one weekend. Before anyone says but it is not fair, stop and think one thing, do you think every single person that enters and plays in a Pokemon TCG or Yu-Gi-Oh tournament are professionals. No, most of them are regular people that have to take time out of their schedule to fully commit to come out to a venue and play in the tournament. Playing competitive Marvel Snap should not be any different. If someone cannot commit a full weekend to play in a Marvel Snap tournament then maybe they should not be a competitive Marvel Snap player then.

They had so many chances to pronounce "Hoogland" correctly and they just couldn't help but say "Hogland" every single time

@ydgmdlu

Жыл бұрын

The correct way to pronounce "Hoogland" (at least the way that Jeff prefers it) is H-OH-gland, not H-OO-gland. Not sure where you got your information from, but it sure wasn't from the horse's mouth.

@drinkwatertopreventkidneys841

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they pronounced it correctly

@zkatom3773

Жыл бұрын

Poogland*

I am glad Jeff Poogland lost. Man doesn’t deserves any wins.

@lejuj9810

Жыл бұрын

Why though ? Does he kill a member of your family to make you hate someone like him ?

@nothingwhy1065

Жыл бұрын

@@lejuj9810 Probably because of his toxic fanbase and his sort of high self esteem.

@lejuj9810

Жыл бұрын

@@nothingwhy1065 What the hell ? Marvel snao community is maybe one of the most untoxic community.

@nothingwhy1065

Жыл бұрын

@@lejuj9810 Fanbases are toxic man, don't you see how people are saying that the tournament was rigged because of a patch and thats why Jeff lost? Also how about all the people saying that the developers are dumb for not nerfing Shuri?

@lejuj9810

Жыл бұрын

@@nothingwhy1065 Well Jeff loses but the patch didn't matter, both dera and him are really good players and dera just got a better matchup. And for shuri, the deck is kinda dumb, but there is plenty ways to counter it

Jeff muting Dera is disgusting...

@malekingcher

Жыл бұрын

I had to check it twice so I can be sure. The deal here is that his opponent emoted once (if I'm not wrong) for the whole 2 series. and he is not known for emoting. Weird tbh.

@Emmersu

Жыл бұрын

he himself emotes Spider-Man , then dera emotes back which is basically what you do when someone Spider-Man emotes you and then he muted him lol

Happy to see Jeff lose, but both arrogant people. Yet a stupid format, tells us nothing who is the better.

@lannguyen902

Жыл бұрын

I'm not happy to see Jeff lose but agreed with the second half of your comment. This tournament told us nothing about who the better player is due to an entire balance patch, new cards and locations dropped that can warp which decks are meta.

@derajn

Жыл бұрын

Can't believe how arrogant they both are. So despicable

I watched a lot of the tournament videos but definitely will not again since apparently allowing people to insult peoples appearence is allowed in your comments.

@juliotorres3147

Жыл бұрын

What a baby

@zalveiz6974

Жыл бұрын

Bye.

Recount! District X should definitely be removed from battle mode. Also, Ego and Weird World should be removed.

@juliotorres3147

Жыл бұрын

No. So dumb.

Jeff had nearly every RNG outcome against him... every time scorpion after Bast.... if its reversed he wins probably... Dera forgot about Zabu und said he added Scorpion and would prefered Zabu over him. Also jeff revealed after Deras Master Mold with Darkhawk in cloning vats... another RNG outcome made him lose. Strange Academy also... if demon lands in lechuguillia then Dera cant win mojo world by killmonger the demon and also jeff has room for a card to win there. So its quite sad seeing a player lose of 5-6 RNG outcomes.. Dera played well, but had some hickups early, but was flawless in losers bracket and against jeff. jeff played pretty perfect the whole tourney, made insane reads and if the balance patch didnt happen and the long wait between the rounds, i think he wins easy.. no one was prepared for bounce but dera had a long time for preparing, making a counterdeck and could submit it because they altered the rules... not quite fair but hey.... congratz to dera. Edit after watching: Dera: - always Scorpion and Master Mold by Turn 2 - always getting good locations for darkhawk and drawing hawk, especially before district x and getting another one... + having rockslide and korg - always having the right priority for mold / scorpion / shang / killmonger - doges gambit - gets the benefit of RNG locations (kamar taj with doom, starlight citadel to change flooded perfect, lechuguillia, district x) Thats such a one sided match dude.. its like hitting lottery jackpot 3 times in a row...

@vaibhavmr5440

Жыл бұрын

In a game which is mostly made of RNG, yea that was so unfair dude. Sad :(

@Kameo-jq3qo

Жыл бұрын

@@vaibhavmr5440 there is a difference between losing A GAME to rng or losing 5-6 in a row thanks to perfect RNG for opponent ^^ but if you cant see that well...

@LOKITYZ

Жыл бұрын

I think Jeff's also made some missteps with his aggressive Snapping. Should've played it a bit more safe.

@vaibhavmr5440

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@@Kameo-jq3qo yea sry im blind :) maybe we should raise a ticket to second dinner to make it not RNG ^^. Maybe we should stop playing and watching coz of too many RNG element in game against opponent ^^.

@Kameo-jq3qo

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@@vaibhavmr5440 dude learn to read. im not saying rng is bad, just that jeff lost because of rng and not gameplay. he played better the whole tourney. losing to rng is fine, losing to rng 5-6-7-8 times in a row sucks.