Hey Winter, please note that by the fourth liberator, they can't form a Venn diagram of freedom due to their circular target, as no Venn diagram can be constructed using only circles above 3 sets.

@wyvern132

8 ай бұрын

They can if you use additional spatial dimensions

@broastedgarlic7354

8 ай бұрын

@@wyvern132 But the liberation zone is still only 2 dimensions. Adding more spatial dimensions when the shape is still just a circle doesn't do anything. What you said doesn't make any sense. :-(

@WinterStarcraft

8 ай бұрын

I reject your reality and substitute my own

@mazystarr

8 ай бұрын

nerds

@hivetech4903

8 ай бұрын

Venn diagrams and freedom circles... the debate I never knew I needed.

Maru's battle card says the units get +1 to Amor. Proof that just a bit more love makes you a better person 😊

@__Mr.White__

2 ай бұрын

are these cards a joke or do they really use some kind of mod?

I always love reading the balance complaints, ranging from “skill issue” to “why do they do this?”

@gucluceviri2837

8 ай бұрын

why do they still keep Carrier in game >:(

@lvo9197

8 ай бұрын

@@gucluceviri2837 Carriers are super easy to counter with corruptor and viking. Even marines can do ok when ther isn t splash damage

@randomd286

7 ай бұрын

@@gucluceviri2837 yeah you nailed it... toss has been winning far too many major tournaments lately 😂 Honestly though late games untis are far less impactful on balance when games are mostly decided before they come out.

I like you handeled the end. It was certainly a controversial ending

@AndrewBryanSapigaotarsonis

8 ай бұрын

Solar was actually ahead but he had no idea. That's the thrill of Starcraft, only the spectators know what's up. He was probably basing his judgment on how many times he crossed to Maru's side of the map (which wasn't many) and assumed that Maru had a bunch of orbitals by that time.

can we coin the phrase: "the brenda bounce" to refer to that queen jump into reaper kill?

@logandoerfler4746

8 ай бұрын

I second this motion 🤚

22:15 your ceaseless bullying of cure will never get old.

@friedNchips

8 ай бұрын

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

I like the perspective casts. As someone who want to learn the game, it really helps to see from a pro's camera directly. More please!

SCV - " You run out marines?" Maru - "No"

@friedNchips

8 ай бұрын

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

@zeejustin6

8 ай бұрын

So you're not a zerg guy huh? @@friedNchips

Queens should be able to burrow, then turn into a nuke that gets triggered whenever the opponent looks at the screen. I don't think it would be too overpowered.

@Ace_Dreemurr

5 ай бұрын

The sad part is they can make the queens fly and still say that aren't OP

That subscription mid record is legendary

Winter, thank you. I really appreciate your dedication, and your skill at presentation. The professionalism does not go unnoticed.

This "greentext"-commentary style feels rly authentic in such a game! Good idea well done!

I enjoy winter's very casual style "oh my god, he body blocks?"

The thumbnail was actually great today 😂

Thanks Winter! You're the man, man!!

Winter in his thumbnail looks like my dad at his trailer dispatch station,Winter and Cure truly are men of the people.

10:09 It's comforting to know even the greatest terran in the world occasionally does this stupidity. I mean, I probably do it 10000x more often than he does, but still.

I learned a lot from the Terran player and commentary. I would have play Protoss if it was in a better standing but Terran it is. Great Cast!

That was rather juicy seeing the cam play tasty apm XD

This thumbnail face is hilarious :D i love you winter !

Nasty widow hits in game 1!

Twitch sub during recording. MVP right there! :P

So, final game, Solar tapping out He had been on 65 drones for quite a while, and 65 drones is not a lot of drones. Having that much army supply and not winning, without a decent bank to replace it, is quite nasty. Maru had then just had a lot of workers killed, but Solar knew that maru would have several orbitals, likely a decent bank, plus the ghosts were on the field. So Solar wasn't going to be putting Maru in a position of "i have no economy i just have to hope i can produce enough stuff to survive the next attack" and able to rely on zerg just having growth potential to win the game. He was putting maru in a position of "i can build a bigger army than i had before, lets do that and then try kill Solar in a little bit", which, well, Maru with ghosts can very much kill Solar. Did he tap out a bit early? Could he have retreated and attacked again before Maru was ready? Could he have won the game?

"even Maru is human, occasionally"

Love ur casting :)

All terrans really gotta do is just use widow mines to walk with and protect the mass rines. Also keeps the damn tanks from doing friendly fire. And besides that having a small variety to your unit comp works wonders.

Thank You Om nom nom

Am i the only one who noticed Solar is no longer the Nuke Eater on his winterstone playercard?

love the early comment from winter where he says 4 banes can lose a game sarcastically and then maru loses game 3 to 4 banelings

Lol at subscriber at 34:34

The thumbnail kills me

I've not watched any starcraft for some time now. What's up with the battle cards, are those buffs actually in game?

@Santisima_Trinidad

8 ай бұрын

Nah, just a thing winter has stuck together.

I was here 300 years ago .😊

Wow. He should not have tapped out like that. Maybe one of the idra moments.

Throw in an insult and that was IdRa level of GG fail 😂

Focus is on Maruns

The Joe Rogan of StarCraft Always the best

💜

Feel like solar tapped out far too quickly on the 1st and last game. He had a decent sized army and relatively equal economy in both cases. I get it can feel oppressive and frustrating to be on that receiving end but still to totally playable games.

Thanks for always yelling at jimmy and brenda. Fractured a bone in my shoulder today so this distraction is very welcomed.

Solar is just barely not good enough to counter Maru's pressure. It's the difference between Serral, who manages to pretty much sweep Maru, and Solar, who gets worn down by him.

Jimmy, what in the sam hell was that?

Maru is a god holy shit

Solar ate so many mines. Never happens with Serral!

Nydus, Solar. Nydus.

We need more TvZ🗣🗣🗣

@friedNchips

8 ай бұрын

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

You give me reason to live

@sotiriosmoschos9016

8 ай бұрын

Shitt

Great casts. However, I'm missing the custom skins of players. I would live without the stats bar, as rarely I'm looking at it, but would love to see back some variety with the visuals.

solar failed the "pick terran" skillcheck.

Yeah, hope you find another game that cares for balance to comment on since I cant really be arsed watching any game run by the horrorshow that is Blizzard these days. Your doing a great job, but man your frustration in some of these videos is palpable heh. Was thinking about reinstalling SC again after many years of not touching it, but im glad i watched a couple of your videos cause now ive saved myself that frustration :)

solar twice taps out at equal supply. wtf?

when is the real voice reveal?

👀

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

@Elgar7022

8 ай бұрын

Still copy+pasting the same post I see

@Ace_Dreemurr

5 ай бұрын

Don't complain so much zerg race have the most annoying OP units

@Ace_Dreemurr

5 ай бұрын

If zerg race is so trashy as you say then why zerg players win so many tournaments

where can i get these replays?

Maru or Death

For the algorithm

"UNSTOPPABLE Terran strategy" .... You mean spam widow mines and marines ? I mean you're not wrong, but it's pretty generous to call that a "strategy." Maru is definitely an amazing *mechanical* player, but this is the *strategy* equivalent of rolling your face on the keyboard.

@friedNchips

8 ай бұрын

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

@widowmines231

8 ай бұрын

I mean zerg literally build lings and banes and a move them across the map. every race have their a move strategy.

Can we Drug test Maru for Steroids?

Is there somebody who can translate their comments?

WM is ridiculous.. how is that never got nerfed.. i just hate terrans who relay so heavily on WM

@Santisima_Trinidad

8 ай бұрын

It literally did get get nerfed last patch.

@Ace_Dreemurr

5 ай бұрын

Is the only unit that keep terrans on the fight ,zerg units are really nasty

Change the meme with overwatch, StarCraft and heroes of the storm. They love no one everybody will sink eventualy.

Värd en kommentar!

The titles kind of spoil. Good presentation though.

First

@friedNchips

8 ай бұрын

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

Widow mines are ridiculous. Astonishing they've gone by this whole time without nerfs. Annoying to even watch. They should cost 1 more supply and have at least .5-1 less range than the average ranged unit so you can shoot them with vision. They cost nothing, are invisible, do back to back aoe explosions, can be made two at a time, and cant be fought 1v1 with the average range unit even with site you just have to sacrifice something first to fight it so it requires a bunch of apm to even defuse. Just dumb all round and thoroughly abused in lower leagues. Cant even A-move fight them WITH vision with standard army comps because they have same range as rine or roach. Take some range off, it wont effect mine drops in mineral lines but they wont be so apm intensive to fight.

@Santisima_Trinidad

8 ай бұрын

They do have less range than the average range unit though? Its like roaches that have less range than them. And it's entirely static, so you can just go around them if you have vision. Or if you have a significant unit count and vision you can just A move them, they'll die before they can fire, it's very easy. Anyway, they were nerfed in the last patch, so you are just wrong.

@MrCreed145

8 ай бұрын

@@Santisima_Trinidad they hit rines and roaches in an a move bud, if your gonna talk dont say shit thats just wrong. They dont cost enough for the apm required to counter them is the gyst of it. Make them have less range than rines, roaches, muta etc. so they are a MINE not a superior ranged unit with MORE range. It wouldn't effect the mine drop just the apm requirement to diffuse. You already need vision to kill them, and they currently outrange the first ranged unit of both terran and zerg race. and btw, the new patch "Drilling Claws now also makes the Widow Mine unburrow twice as fast" buffs mines....

@Santisima_Trinidad

8 ай бұрын

@@MrCreed145 hang on, "APM required to counter them" First, go the fuck around, thats maybe 2 APM. Second, have you see banelings? Build however fucking many you like at a time, cost less than mines, and require both a ton of APM and mouse accuracy to even attempt to counter, whilst not being static so you don't have infinite time to do whatever the fuck you want to de with them. Are banelings IMBA? Fuck no, aside from sudden splash damage being generally bad design in an RTS which is already a fast paced and volatile environment without it (yes that applies to mines, both widow and spider) But what if they did reduce range to below that of a mutalisk: oh yeah, mines become fucking worthless. They aren't designed to just be a tool for dropping mineral lines, nor should they be, despite what you seem to think. Anyway, i said the last patch, not the current proposed patch, and if you weren't a cunt you'd have read the message next to that change saying "this is because the nerf from last patch made mine micro worse", but fucking are one. Anyway, build marauders or hydras, they are a tier above mariens and roaches, just like mines are a tier above marines, or play protoss.

@AxelTT555

8 ай бұрын

Mines are also friendly fire and they do not deal nearly as much damage unless you manually retarget them. which Maru was doing i believe. as much as I hate to admit this, games was quite close and Maru was simply outplaying Solar in every aspect. Did you see Serral vs Maru records? it's like 12-3 in favor of Serral. I guess that's why guys like serral and dark prefer to open into 1-1 roach and then switch to ling bane.

@AxelTT555

8 ай бұрын

for the record. as an ex zerg i would much prefer to have borrowed baneling, which DOES deal friendly fire, but jumps underground, does 150 dmg to ground and air units, in like 5 radius, and does not die in the process. plus hold fire and manual retargeting ability. But not until Serral alive. ) Not gonna happen. The guy just ignores balance limitations.

They could make the game twice as good just by removing widow mines.

@Ace_Dreemurr

5 ай бұрын

Remove vipers as well then, they are OP as fuck

Honestly the widow mine needs to be nerfed. The worst unit to play against by far, and the risk vs reward is a joke. Needs to be double the minerals and maybe even triple the gas cost of what it is now. Maybe even making it 3 supply. I seriously think it needs to be gutted

These Kr vs Kr games are so much better in quality compared to these 180ms shitshows of online tournaments. No foreign player would win any major tournament, maybe with the exception of Serral, if they played them all on LAN. Korean micro gets gimped hard due to high ping. It's also why Serral only lost to Clem.

@cousinpatsey2471

8 ай бұрын

I know this is bait But The only non team league premiers KR has been winning this year is the GSL. Gamers8 and Katowice were both won by foreigners. Kr isn't dominant at the highest level bud :)

Grow your beard out

Maru nicely beating up the zerg, great