I have a SV20, (thru [2] 4x10 Marshall cabs) and love it. The 1987X sounds a bit better in your comparison. Nice work.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! You can always upgrade: a 1987x plus a 1959HW through two 4x12" cabs 😜

Great comparison! Cheers man!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it. Please consider subscribing if you haven't yet, that always helps me to keep making this stuff :)

I'm owner of the SV 20, but in in this video the 1987x sounds really better

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Ай бұрын

I thought so to. Initially so much that I sold the SV20, but I bought it back about 6 months later. As long as you don't compare, the SV20 is great in its own right and has its place.

I have been contemplating the SV20H and the 1987X. The latter being more expensive but with a much more robust build and with better parts. Anyway, in the end I got myself the JTM45 2245 - it definitely sounds bigger and bolder than the 20 and 50 watt Plexis. I paired it with a Marshall 1936 cabinet with two Celestion Alnico Golds. It sounds like Heaven!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

7 ай бұрын

Happy new amp day then! I tried the JTM45 too before I got the 1987x, but it wasn't for me. One of those amps I love to hear, but don't really like playing.

Just bought mine for just under $1500. Delivery cost included. So i git mine cheap. Also bought an origin 2x12 cab and celestian 30 watt g12h 12" speakers. Im gonna replace the speakers in the origin cab. I have 25 watt greenbacks in my 4x12 code cab. Ill be taking the 2x12 for smaller stage gigs. Also use my origin 50 watt head. Love both amps. Origin for when i want to sit on rhythm and have that jtm45 sound. The studio vintage for when im in the mood for lead

Wow great gear and song choices 🤘🏻

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

25 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot!

I remember seeing reviews of SV20 and it sounded fantastic. But man, that 1987x in this particular setup just sounded amazing and in another league. I hear attenuator is a must as its volume goes from 9 to 10, skipping 1 to 8 all together.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

2 ай бұрын

On its own, the SV20H can sound great. But I have to admit, after I did this comparison, I sold the SV because it ruined it for a while. Eventually I bought it back, because it simply sounds good on its own and it's more practicle for some situations. With both an attenuator is a must, but it of course applies more to the 1987x. Even with good hearing protection it's wild how loud that amp is, and I even run the channel volumes pretty low.

@AgentBlackCrow

2 ай бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar great channel, subbed and going through some of your older content. 😉

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

2 ай бұрын

@@AgentBlackCrow thank you very much! 🫡

I have the SV, and its not a bedroom amp! It does sound a bit shrill playing by itself, but in a loud full band setting, it kicks big time and cuts right through the mix in a good way.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Not a bedroom amp for sure, you can still peel the paint off the walls in 5 watt mode. And it does the plexi thing, works great in a mix indeed.

@paulcappello

Жыл бұрын

I have one too. Thats exactly what I thought was a bit Shrill/sharp / razor's edge. Good review

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@paulcappello thanks!

Both sound great! I was looking at a 1987x last year, but ended up getting a Bogner Helios 50.

@leftygtrplr6184

6 ай бұрын

How do you like the Helios? Those always intrigue me. I had a Bogner Shiva 20th Anniversary. The clean was amazing, dirty was good, but just never won me over, so I sold it back to the original owner. I love my Marshalls, especially my JCM 2000 DSL50.

@reverb508

6 ай бұрын

@@leftygtrplr6184 I love it. Bogner really knocked it out of the park with this amp. It’s essentially a modded Marshall Super Lead with a great master volume and an effects loop. My only gripe is that you can’t switch between the plexi and hot channels with a foot switch.

@leftygtrplr6184

6 ай бұрын

@@reverb508 Every video I've seen with the Helios, it sounds awesome! I have a similar gripe on my JCM 2000 DSL 50. It essentially has 4 different options, but you can only footswitch 2. The new 50 watt Bogner 3534, the new Friedman Jake E Lee 20 and the new Soldano Astro 20 are all intriguing new options out there.

@markn4526

4 ай бұрын

I'm currently looking into the Helios 50 and the 1987x myself, as well as a couple Germino models. The Friedman Small Box would be an option too, but I always find Friedman amps to be a little fizzy sounding. My thinking is a Germino may be best tone-wise and build quality, but I can't find a Germino to demo one in person though.

@reverb508

4 ай бұрын

@@markn4526not to further complicate your search, but I’ve also heard great things about the Suhr SL67/SL68!

I have a Mini jubilee head and it works very well, especially with my CS Jeff Beck Strat (and of course with my Les Pauls). I also have a Magnatone M80 (45w). My attenuator is the Fryette PS2A. I'm thnking of buying a 1987X or a EVH 5150 50w 6L6, or both ahahah. I really don't know what to expect from the 1987. Until some months ago I was for the JVM410H, but now this 1987... I'm changing my mind...

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I really love it. It's punchy, greasy and old school. Also pretty easy to dial in and work with, once you know how it works.

I have the Studio Vintage. It gets me the kind of sound I need for my budget and acceptable volume level for recording at home. I’d love to try the 1987 though!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I own both of these amps in this video and had the SV20 the longest. It was my gateway plexi amp and I still love it and use it. When I'm not comparing them l don't notice the differences and enjoy both, because I think they're both great amps!

@Jamie-rv5dl

Жыл бұрын

Honestly depends what your chasing, I had a 1987x and it wasn’t cutting it for me so sold it. Waiting for my sv20 to arrive

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamie-rv5dl what about the 1987x wasn't cutting it for you?

@Jamie-rv5dl

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar I was trying to get a randy rhoads thing going and just wasn’t happening unless you run it without an attenuator which is just ridiculous at home lol

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamie-rv5dl well, don't expect you can run the SV20H without some kind of attenuation. It is still very loud, even on 5 watts.

The 1987 is a great circuit but I chose to go with a handwired clone version from Ceriatone. I’ve gathered the build quality on the SV20 isn’t commensurate with its price, at least in the US. Also I have the same Squier CV Custom 60s Esquire, except mine is black. It’s a great guitar!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

That Squier is great bang for buck for sure! I've heard great things about Ceriatone, thought about it, but haven't tried one yet. And I can understand your point about the SV20 if you're from the US, they're too expensive overseas. Here they're great value for money though.

@qua7771

10 ай бұрын

I wired the clean channel on my Ceriatone King Kong as a 1968 plexi. I'll agree. You can't beat the build quality, or price. It's the best amp I've heard.

I second the person that wrote in to say that the Studio Vintage is a big chunk of change here in the US at around $1800. I've been wanting to upgrade to a tube amp for a while now, have been considering getting one the Supros. I only need 5-10 watts anyway.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

That's a crazy price difference, more than double of what they cost here. Even the 1987x is still a few hundred bucks cheaper than the Studio Vintage in the US. The Supro amps are something totally different though, very dark and stiff. If you like that British flavor but want to pay less, I think something like a Vox AC15 with a Greenback is the best bang for buck.

@mp-kq3vc

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar That's very helpful. Thanks!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@mp-kq3vc no problem, glad to help. I also have a video on the Vox AC15 on my channel if that helps you, as well as a comparison the the Marshall Origin. The latter could also be an option to get a Marshall sound on a budget, though personally I prefer the Vox.

I own the studio vintage and a hw 2061x and I find myself keep coming back to the 2061x it sounds more organic and is a lot more fun to play. I just can’t get the sound I like from the studio vintage tried jumper, Treble alone and normal channel alone just can’t dial my tone. My 2061x sounds good through 2x12 and my 1x12 closed back cabinets with greenbacks. Gonna Keep trying to tweak the studio vintage maybe I’ll find the sweet spot. 2061x everything on 10 and I’m good to go. Just use the volume knob on my guitars no pedals need. Gibson custom shop r7 les Paul, Gibson 57 les Paul special p90’s and Fender custom shop 62 and 65 Stratocasters.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I've got the SV20H patched and set differently from the 1987x. It takes some finetuning, but I'm happy with the sound I can get out of both. Hopefully you can eventually find your way with the SV20 as well.

@BreauxBobby

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had 2 20161x’s over the years. I had to sell my last one to move from the US to Europe. I’m now looking into buying another out here. The 2061x is amazing. It lets the character of your guitar come through. It’s such a perfect tone that the am- gets. I could never play it on 10. I was playing it mostly on 2. You should try the studio jubilee. That’s a great amp.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@BreauxBobby well, one upside of coming to Europe is at least that Marshalls are (a lot) cheaper on this side of the pond 😉 I think I haven't tried the Jubilee yet, but it has been on the list for a while.

Nice to see a fellow IronMan user! Best attenuator out there in my opinion! What speakers are in the cab?

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

As far as I attenuators I have tried, I totally agree! The cab has Celestion Greenbacks (G12M25) in it, I love those speakers.

high gain on the P90 sounded great with the 1987!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

9 ай бұрын

It's hard to get a bad sound out of that amp in general.

Friedman pink taco save a few hundred and have a Plexi! I am saying this as one that has the SV20. I like it allot. When I got mine, it was quite a bit less expensive but for the difference. Now I would be looking hard at the Friedman. Although only hearing the Friedman in sound clips, I think the sound is very similar.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Where I'm from, the Friedman is more than double the price.

@larrydavis3573

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar I'm sorry I didn't even take that into consideration not knowing where you are from. In the states the Marshall has gone from 1299.00 to 1799.00 while the Friedman is 1499.00 at Sweetwater. Thanks for the comment and Rock On!!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@larrydavis3573 but you still make a valid point, because I know how much more expensive Marshall is in the US! And Friedmans are cheaper on your end compared to here. Friedmans are great. Not sure if they're handwired, but if you can get a handwired boutique amp for less than a PCB Marshall, I would be temped to do that as well. Over here these Marshalls are great for the price. Especially if one's looking for that specific plexi sound and feel: Marshall knows how to do Marshall. At least currently.

@larrydavis3573

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar Yes they do! I like mine very much, but it is my most expensive amp.

I have an ehx mig50 that I love (I've got a MV installed in it). I've been eyeing a 1987x lately. One thing I love about the mig is that it takes pedals amazingly well and it has as much clean headroom as I want. Do you think the 1987x has less headroom than the mig? Being both 50w I assume there is not much difference.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

4 ай бұрын

There is a big difference in regards of headroom, probably because of the bright cap in the 1987x, as it has almost no clean headroom. Is think it sounds better with amp drive and it has a bit less low end, but it's not an amp for cleans or for headroom in my experience.

@Bellon_am

4 ай бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar I see, thanks for the quick response! Keep up with the content, nice reviews and playing.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

4 ай бұрын

@@Bellon_am thanks! Glad I could help and if you haven't done so, subscribing really helps the channel out 🙂

@Bellon_am

4 ай бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar done ✌🏻

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

4 ай бұрын

@@Bellon_am thank you! 🙏

I say buy the 1987, as well as the studio vintage. Then get a full size JCM 800 and mini 800, and a Silver Jubilee and a mini jubilee. You never know when you’ll need the head room of the bigger amp, or the portability of the small amp. It will depend on the situation. That said nobody can go out and get all those amps at once. I say get em when you can these are fantastic amps. Marshall nailed the mini versions.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

They sure did!

@reverb508

9 ай бұрын

Might as well grab a 1959HW while you’re at it!

@scottsoltani8389

5 ай бұрын

@@reverb508I like the way you think

Hi Steven ! What is the best Hendrix setting for the SV20H ?

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

5 ай бұрын

Good question! I have a Hendrix inspired strat that I've played for more than ten years through Fender amps, but once I got into Marshalls I shifted to Gibsons and now my strat has been in a case in my upstairs office, so I never really tried the Hendrix thing with the SV20H. But I would suggest pluggin into the normal channel and patching to the treble channel and keel the volume of the normal channel higher than the treble channel. I think the normal on 4 or 5 and the treble channel on 2. Set the EQ to your ears and feel, but most of it is in those channel volumes. The SV20H is biased really cold, so I think this way works best with it, especially with a strat.

@user-jz8fv8du8p

5 ай бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar for a live Jimi tone, I've heard to not jumper any channel. Dial everything to 8 except for bass (That stays on 6) and plug in to the high treble channel. finally dial in a fuzz to the right tone. I hear many mixed things on Jimi tones, it seems to be very subjective!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

5 ай бұрын

@@user-jz8fv8du8p I think it's always subjective because everbody plays and thus sounds differently.

Outside of recording do your think bigger amps feel better and have a fuller in room tone? I keep hearing this thrown around and while I haven’t played many big amps I just ordered a 100w plexi clone by Landry chasing this ‘feel’

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Yes, 100%. I love my Studio Vintage, but when I played both through the same cab, it fell short to the 1987x, judging from my seat in the room while playing that is. Though I think the Studio Vintage with the cab I normally use it with (a Zilla 2x12") might be better for recording. But in a room, the big ones feels and sounds best. More so than I thought. Both are great though.

@Fnnggjji

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar thank you. Hardly anyone talks about the in the room feel vs just hearing the recording. Something is definitely lost in translation there. I remember having a Marshall Dsl40cr. It’s about the same size as my Maz18 combo but the low end thickness was on another level. In recordings the maz dominates. But it’s definitely a different feel in the room.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@Fnnggjji totally agree. I think the feel and the sound in the room is the most overlooked aspect of guitar playing especially with KZread in the picture. There's plenty of gear I like the sound of when other people are using it, but I really don't like to play myself. And you can make different gear sound similar, but what feels better to play makes me play better.

@0megalul309

Жыл бұрын

Big amps feel so diff

Reducing the SV bright cap from its strangely massive 4.7nf to perhaps 120pf removes its shrillness. It'd be interesting to try the comparison after this easy tweak...

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Without the bright cap it becomes too dull to me. I know some people like this mod, but it's not for me. With my prefered settings, which you hear at the beginning, I'm happy with the sound of the amp. Cutting the bright cap doesn't make up for the difference in transformer between these amps, but if it works for other players, that's great too! 🙂

@digitalchris6681

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar ah, just 'rewound' and checked: you use the high gain normal channel and jump low gain normal to high gain bright. So for you the cap issue isn't as important. But with your configuration you don't drive the preamp as much as the 'standard' configuration (in via high gain bright, jump low gain bright to high gain normal).

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@digitalchris6681 that why I run both volumes higher on the Studio Vintage. But honestly, I did set both amps by ear and feel independently from each other. I had the Studio Vintage first, and when I got the 1987x I started with the same settings. Eventually al the knobs except both volumes stayed the same, and I patched it differently. So the fact that they're quite alike in the opening clip on their prefered settings is more coincedence than design. Or my preferences just very clear haha 😜

@digitalchris6681

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar I agree it's the resultant sound that matters, not the settings!

@digitalchris6681

Жыл бұрын

Steven: this got me thinking about the actual reissue versus SV differences - I've checked the circuit and am surprised to find that, ignoring the larger mains transformer and output transformer (which are obviously necessary) the only circuit differences are the reissue has a choke, a slightly larger feedback resistor, and adjustable bias. Everything else, including the all-important bright cap is the same. Weird, as my experience with the 87x is that it is has more mid-frequency emphasis and does not have as shrill a treble as the SV. And the first thing I did with my SV was reduce that caps value.

i compared a 50 watt 1986 vs my 1992 SB and the lower wattage 1986 seemed to compress a little more and breakup earlier......Which one is better? It's for the player to decide. I preferred the 1992....Also, the 100 isn't hat much louder then the 50, both can be brutal if played in small venues/rooms

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

It is in the end all objective ofcourse. But it's good to know what the differences are soundwise. From there on everyone should experience what works better under the fingers.

@popeye089

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar Agreed, also what some people don't know who haven't experienced it, a cranked Marshall is a whole instrument unto itself, which i know you know. It has to be reigned in great vid as always bro

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@popeye089 Thanks man!

1987x all night long! Try de bridge PU on the les paul bro! ;)

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I do when I need to, but the middle position is my default. Possibly comes from listening to a lot of Jimmy Page 😜 But the 1987x is great for sure!

this amp to play in a house if you put it on 5w does it sound too loud ... or is it possible to play in a house with this power

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

5 watts will still be very loud without a master volume. But check out this video I did: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eK2i19Wllq-dp84.html

SV needs the volume knobs atleast half up too sound lower is too thin for me. My PRS HRDX20 is a big fat tone with humbuckers or single coils, single coils it has a ton of head room that stays clean if you want it. The SV breaks up quicker and sounds kind of crappy to the HRDX bigger trans and 5881 power tubes running full voltage.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried that PRS amp yet but it's on my list. I think the SV's are great for the price if you know how to dial them in.

are you using a 1960TV cab with greenbacks?

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Greenbacks are my favorite speakers.

You should try the slash afd100 Marshall made its amazing. I just got one

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I would love to try one someday, but they're a bit out of my budget at the moment.

@truthfactreality6814

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar mine too but I found a way. It’s so good on the afd channel. Modded plexi. Amazing sound. My favourite Marshall I own out of the 3

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@truthfactreality6814 which others have you got besides that one?

I would love to own the 1987x but it's like almost twice the price of the Studio Vintage.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

They've gotten more expensive. But I think they're worth it! 🙂

Thanks for the video. I much prefer the 1987x.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

So did I. Thanks for watching! 🙂

@DistrictSoundLab

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar now I have to decide between a band wired 1987 and 1959 - I figure they’re both loud as Shit and need attenuation so it’s a matter of tone

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@DistrictSoundLab yeah I think there's only a 3dB difference in those 50 watts. You'd even need an attenuator for the Studio Vintage at the 5w setting. The 1987x is more aggresive and punchier, the 1959 has more headroom. Kind of like Duane Allman (50w and more raunchy) and Dickey Betts (100w, cleaner and fuller).

@DistrictSoundLab

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar which one is more zeppelin , Hendrix ? I would guess the 100w right

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@DistrictSoundLab on paper, yes. But you can get that sound out of either the Studio Vintage, 1987 or 1959 as long as you know how to set them.

The 1987 sounds brighter with more bite everytime. Sv20 cleaner n darker.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

The SV20 is cleaner for sure, but doesn't sound darker to my ears. It is brighter, but with the lacking bottom end of the 1987, making it sound a bit more shrill. In comparison I think the 1987 simply bites in a better way. But ofcourse we could ofcourse either peeceive or simply describe it differently 🙂

@4vinylsound

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar I'm also listening through a phone not even with earphones or anything so what I'm hearing is way off from the real sounds.

Wondered y the 1987 sounded so bad - i own one - then realized it was just another copy of a copy, lol. Crazy when every piece of REAL VINTAGE gear has a modern copy … that doesn’t sound a tenth as good. Why is that? You’d think same electronics equals same sound - but i guess even vintage components were better sounding in some way - crazy!

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Not everything is the same in terms of parts and circuit, but I still like it.

the SV20 sounded way fatter

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Than I must have mislabeled the clips 😉

@MrBurst62

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar yeah it's way fatter sounding. I have an SV20 it can get that big sounding that's all based on the cab.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBurst62 you must be hearing something different than me. At the same settings, the SV20 is a lot thinner. Ofcourse I was also in the room playing both when I recorded it, giving me a clear recollection of the sound. The only way I can get the SV20 to sound nearly as full as the 1987, is to plug into the normal channel instead of the high treble one. But if your ears hear something different that's fine, as long as your happy with your SV20. I know I am 😉👍

@MrBurst62

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenAnthonyGuitar what amp are you playing through at 1:59?

@MrBurst62

Жыл бұрын

either way it's a weird comparison. You have a 50 watt head and a 20 watt head so of course the 50 has way more headroom so it should be bigger sounding. If your recording you can eq all of that in or out. If your playing live you add headroom to the SV20 with a Freyette Power Station or eq it at the board.

The 1987X sounds way better.

@StevenAnthonyGuitar

Жыл бұрын

On its own and in the room, absolutely. I prefer it for live shows for that reason, though I can happily gig with the SV20 as well. For recording the SV20 might work better when I use my Zilla 2x12" I normally pair it with, because it easily fits in the mix. But there is something special about playing the 1987x through the 4x12" in the room.

@bobdillon1138

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say way better maybe a bit fuller bottom end.